Patch + Hairdryer= ? Patch + scratched skin =??

[Ickyuck]

Ugh here we go again. I have 1 patch, 25mcg/hr. Now forgive me for not going through the posts to see if this had been actually discussed; I haven't logged on in a while. Hi btw. :)

So last time I had the patch, about a year ago, I decided after much deliberation to slap it on my arm whilst on a grimy Greyhound bus bound for a 3 hour trip. Dude, the damn thing was packed and here I am all sketched out sitting next to some lady. I started to scratch my left upper arm to get the skin somewhat irritated in hopes that it would absorb, somehow, the stuff quicker. With the lady, I swear she knew something was up, right there I shakily attempted to pull the patch out of the package in my wallet. Stuck it on all like a bad smooth move. An hour later, thinking "I NEED to be high when I get to the destination", I kinda managed to open the thing up and ooze some gel out. Another hour passes by, when before I know it my forehead and upper lip are sweating. Then everything else, Including my knees and shins I swear. I can't remember getting high though, I think I might of been. And this time I want to make sure I DO get high, dammit.

So... Should I put the thing on already warm skin, then blowdry it on low making sure nothing melts or gets too hot? Or should I cut my skin proper and then put it on?

Should I bother at all?

[PRIZEFIGHTERINFERNO]

the thing with a patch especially with that dose (i do nt know your tolerance though) is thta it takes a while to build up in your system. But either way a heating pad should help it to absorb faster. I suppose a hair dryer would work aswell.

Or you could just chew on pieces of the patch...youd be surprised at how much gell is still on the sides of the patch once you eat it all out.

I dont know becarfull man.
peace

[PRIZEFIGHTERINFERNO]

oh yeah F that scratched skin shit....your not gonna mutilate your flesh....and you would pretty much have to i think if you wanna get it absorbed like that...then again what the hell do i know.

[AWOL]

I don't know anything about fent other than that there are a lot of threads that answer your question and if you want the best bang for the buck you'll do well to search atleast a few of them.

[Ickyuck]

I don't know anything about fent other than that there are a lot of threads that answer your question and if you want the best bang for the buck you'll do well to search atleast a few of them.

I'll do that, I was a bit pressed for time when I posted. As far as chewing, I'm a wee bit wary of that. I've read how one patch can yield quite a few mini-doses, orally. And my tolerance is moderate.


And as far as skin mutilating, I'm just crazy like that.

[SpecialGuy69]

you don't have to mutilate your skin- just shave the area before you apply the patch- you know how if you shave with an old razor the area gets irritated and it kinda waters up? That's probably more efficient than bleeding cause if you cut yourself, the blood is flowing out, not in. The same reason you can't just drop some dope on a cut and get high.

So, try shaving the area and then if you still want it to hit harder, you can use a hairdryer. I've tried all the above, but still didn't get any rush or euphoria, just no w/d's. Fent is a really sketchy drug, micro-dosing and toxic gel and all that shit. BE CAREFUL with fent- a 25mcg/hour patch is the lowest dose, but it's still plenty dangerous.

My theory on fent dosing- if you need 50-60mg dose of OC (chewed or snorted) to get off, then a 50ug patch will hit ya. If you need a 100mg dose, you'll need a 100ug patch, etc. It's a very rough equivalency, but there's barely any data out there on transdermal fent equivalency, so it's better than nothing.

So, your patch is roughly equivalent to 3-4 25mg oxy doses per day.

[Ickyuck]

you don't have to mutilate your skin- just shave the area before you apply the patch- you know how if you shave with an old razor the area gets irritated and it kinda waters up? That's probably more efficient than bleeding cause if you cut yourself, the blood is flowing out, not in. The same reason you can't just drop some dope on a cut and get high.

So, try shaving the area and then if you still want it to hit harder, you can use a hairdryer. I've tried all the above, but still didn't get any rush or euphoria, just no w/d's. Fent is a really sketchy drug, micro-dosing and toxic gel and all that shit. BE CAREFUL with fent- a 25mcg/hour patch is the lowest dose, but it's still plenty dangerous.

My theory on fent dosing- if you need 50-60mg dose of OC (chewed or snorted) to get off, then a 50ug patch will hit ya. If you need a 100mg dose, you'll need a 100ug patch, etc. It's a very rough equivalency, but there's barely any data out there on transdermal fent equivalency, so it's better than nothing.

So, your patch is roughly equivalent to 3-4 25mg oxy doses per day.

Sir 420, your advice/info is highly appreciated. I think I read that it collects best on fatty areas when applied on skin, please advise me if I'm wrong.Also, I've never taken Oxycontin (yet). My tolerance seems high, for instance yesterday I had ten perc 5/325's and felt at best mildly slap happy. But if I haven't been using for a few weeks, anything from two to four t4's hit me very nicely. Which I know is weird, considering it's kinda weak; straight up codeine seems to chemically give me the most mellow, friendly high.

[shaunclo]

I would definitely do a search, you will be pleasntly surprised as to what you will find. These fent patches have been discussed so much on here its not even funny.

Also, the best place to apply the patch is not your arm, probably your chest is the best place (where nobody can see it too) right after you shave your chest hair.

[Ickyuck]

I would definitely do a search, you will be pleasntly surprised as to what you will find. These fent patches have been discussed so much on here its not even funny.

Also, the best place to apply the patch is not your arm, probably your chest is the best place (where nobody can see it too) right after you shave your chest hair.

Shaunclo, my chest has two big breasts. :p

[OxyContinuously]

Shaunclo, my chest has two big breasts. :p


thats the best thing i've heard all day!!! I love it

[insaneike]

OK, well, I don't wanna say do X way and you do too much lol. It'd be helpful to know your tolerance. Like how many mg of Oxy, 'done, or Morph do you usualy use? Cause the 25mcg/hr(2.5mg total) patches are equivalent to 67mg of Oxycodone per day when you wear the patch! So it's around 200mg total when converted to the doses of OxyCodone. So if say you can get high from a single OC40 be CAREFUL WITH ThiS SHIT!!! No joke... you would never believe how dangerous fent is to low toler ppl(i say this cause u got the 2.5mg patch) when that oh so sweet gel pouch is cut into!!! I know a girl who OD'd about 3-1/2yrs from just swallowing the content of a patch(the dummie-no disrespect to her!!!- ate the content of an ENTIRE 5mg patch with zero toler!). Ok, i think you're aware o the dangers so onto how to use them bad boys! :p


OK, if you're goal is the get high the hands down only way to use Fentnayl(transdermal gel patches) is to smoke the Fentanyl, or unless you IV then in that case wear it out, I would personally think it's a dumb idea to try and filter that shit with a cotton wad or basic filter and prepare like a regular shot, but I've seen MANY reports of ppl doing so on here(never met anyone in person whose done it). Yeah though, you're gonna want to smoke the gel on foil.

Cut a lil corner off the patch, leaving the adhesive covering intact, and lay patch on a mirror. Now get a lighter or something like that and run it across the patch, squeezing all the gel out. Someone prefers to do this in about 3-4 diff 'puddles' instead o one big blob for easier dosing... now let the gel set on the mirror and dry(won't take more than an hour) and then get a razor and cut each 'puddle' into half, then cut those 1/2s into 1/2s... taking that you made 4 'puddles'... Make it into like 20 lil pieces if you have little tolerance(like if u don't need over 40mg of Oxy).

Put each lil peice(one at a time of course :P) on a piece of foil creased... now form the foil into a 'bowl' shape like y'know? make it so theres no gaps for air and vapors to escape... now get a hollowed out pen/straw/rose tube(use the rose tubes or a rolled up piece of foil unless it's not obtainable!!!!!) and then kind of form the foil around your tube... As you're not gonna be able to see the vapors from the fent gel(like oh so many think you should and thus waist it and not get high)!!! AS SOON as your lighter hits the foil START INHALING!!! Don't wait for it to 'heat up' or 'start smoking'!!! The very sec you apply heat start inhaling, and inhale vigorously up until you remove the flame, and then keep inhaling till the foil if back down to normal/touching temp!!! Seriosuly, you wouldn't beleive how many ppl don't get high simply cause they didn't do this, then when they try like this guess huh, THEY BE HIgh :rolleyes: and hold the hits as long as you can..(like 7-15secs).. Just BE CAREFUL and don't over do it man!

Smoking fentnayl is like the crack of opiates, i swear! It's intense as hell and it doens't last very long(1-4hrs depending). :D

Have fun and be careful man! and this is just the hands down best and only way to use fent... oral, sublingual, and transdermal use is more sedating than euphoric, and not very recreational in my opinion. Now smoking it, whoooo, I'd asume have a foil of fent than an IV morphine shot... I also prefer it over street dope(tho it doesn't have a damn thing on kill dope!!!! hehe!).

later

[AWOL]

Shaunclo, my chest has two big breasts. :p

Loose some weight tubby.

[shaunclo]

Shaunclo, my chest has two big breasts. :p

LOL, well than for your sake I hope you dont have to shave any hair off there first. Maybe right above the breast than. Like 1/2 on 1/2 off - does that make sense??

[Ickyuck]

No chest hair here. Ugh, that would totally ruin my cleavage.
Insaneike, I've never freebased before. I guess what you are describing is kinda sorta freebasing? Dunno about that; I'm a total clutz and would end up dropping something and wasting it. There's got to be an easier way. Can I use my, erm, "tobacco" pipe? With a tiny droplet of goo?
I need to make this last, as it turns out, so I was thinking of cutting it open, either eating/heating a drop, and keeping it sealed airtight/shut in a jar. So I guess forget the conventional "slap it on" idea..
So nevermind Shaunclo, I may not be shaving my boobies after all

[shaunclo]

No chest hair here. Ugh, that would totally ruin my cleavage.
So nevermind Shaunclo, I may not be shaving my boobies after all

Thats good, cause it was totally ruining my vision of you in my head.

[kyuss]

Thats good, cause it was totally ruining my vision of you in my head.
you ain't
kidding
http://badgas.co.uk/griffnut/breasts.jpg

[shaunclo]

you ain't
kidding
http://badgas.co.uk/griffnut/breasts.jpg

How do we take away points??..............just kidding

[Ickyuck]

How do we take away points??..............just kidding
Ya pervz. Actually I re read what I posted, why I said "shaving my boobs" I don't know. Because I don't shave my boobs. I mean women generally don't. You know what I mean.

Well anyway, I ended up just taking a freckle sized amount of gel and kinda rubbing it in my cheek and going in my bed to take a nap. Before I fell asleep I started to feel goofy, sensory wise. Long story short, I woke up 4 hours later around midnight, drank some fluids, repeated the process, took my trazadone (RX for sleep), and, er.... slept for 14 hours. My patch is safely stored in a tiny jar, ready for more experimenting. Thank scientists for Provigil, otherwise I'd still be asleep!

[SpecialGuy69]

You can squeeze all the gel out and dry it up into flakes, but if you are klutzy this might be a bad idea. Remember once you are done and the patch is empty you can still cut patch open and chew pieces of it to make it last even longer.

[flipside]

Have you actually searched yet? I am on the patch ( have been for years), would be helpful to know you have the brand or the generic.

Also TM your conversions are rough but a little off, a little to generous on the fent end. Yeah I know it depends on which conversion chart you use.;)

Besides you have no tolerance to fent, and only as you state a moderate tolerance... but to what you did not say I assume hyrdo?

Def. search and if you still have questions, I'll try to give you a more specific and safe way to use the patch for maximum effect.

[insaneike]

On the subject of what to do with your patches after they're squeezed 'empty', well, if you prefer the oral/sublingual route of administration by all means suck/chew on the lil plastic pieces of the patch. and u say u done tried putting some the fent in your mouth? blah, that way isn't too recreational... or are u doing this for pain? if you're doing it to get high well, the only way you will be satisfied is if you smoke the gel... wearing, eating, or sublingual use is just gonna be sedating and make u sleepy, theres not bearly any euphoria at all in those routes of using fentanyl...

ANYWHO, if u do smoke it like I said about 4 posts above or so take your meotied patches and soak them
in 97%+ iso alcy for about oh, around an hour-two hours. Then remove patch plastic and pour your solution onto a plate and set that on an electric stove eye on the 1-2setting with a vent fan on high(your house will be full of alcy vapors and reek if you use alot lol).

just figured i'd throw in the better way than sucking on your used empty patches, as they still contain 1 or 2 'hits'(smoked) after u squeeze em, probably not enough to do shit oraly tho.


later

[Ickyuck]

Ok: Flip, I can't really describe my tolerance. Oxycodone seems to give me a noticible high after 40 mgs, if that makes sense. But it is kinda this impatient, figety high that isn't warming nor that comfortable. I could gobble a bunch of Tramadol and get similiar effects. Straight up codeine always gets me high and comfortable, the ideal warmth kind, after 200 mgs. Morphine doesn't seem to do much; even in the hospital when I'm in more pain, I'm like "Didja inject it yet?". Recreationally its a let down; I've had the liquid dropper kind and didn't feel diddly. I can't remember the last time I was on Hydro, so I can't count that. And I just snuffed 2mg Dilaudids the other night and, eh, felt not too high.
The brand I have I can't check right now; what I can remember is that the text on the patch is pink, if that helps at all.
I still have lotsa goo left, too.

[SpecialGuy69]

the ones with goo are the good ones. Theres like 4 or 5 brands of patches, the name brand and sandoz brand both have the goo, other than that, I'm not sure.

Flip- I'm weighting the fent or the oxy too heavy? What I've come up with for now is 50ug/hour=50mg oxy 3x a day. Or, more generally: X ug/hour fent= X mg oxy 3 times a day

So are you saying that I need to add more to the fent side or oxy side? It's hard to communicate this stuff by typing. btw flip ive been having trouble getting on yahoo messenger the past few days, but its fixed now, so ill talk to ya later tonight hopefully.

[Ickyuck]

OK I checked, it is Sandoz...

[insaneike]

Yeap, the ones I get have the Pink writing on the patch, they're indeed Sandoz brand. Gel pouch patches.
It's like they're meant to be torn open and smoked lol.


later

[Ickyuck]

Tinfoil, flame, and pen tube seems to yield in some sort of result. Problem is I keep wanting more! :(