Kratom

[kyito]

Does anyone have any recommendations on where to get some good Kratom? From personal experience please. You can PM me if you don't want to mention vendors. I ordered some of the super enhanced kratom leaf from a place in Indonesia. It is supposedly only a two gram dose as opposed to a 12 gram dose. 12 grams? that's a lot of leaf, but that's what I have read. No wonder I could never get off on it, I wasn't doing nearly enough of it. It must lose a lot in the drying, aging process. I also ordered some kratom extract last summer, I still have a little chunk of it left, if that tells you anything about how good it is. If it was any good, I wouldn't have it still. I will let you all know how it is when I get it. I feel kind of guilty supporting a business from such a harsh country. That is complete B.S. what they did to that aussie lass with the weed. :sandm: Let the people do their thing for GOD'S sake, they aren't hurting you if they are busy toking up. Not that I condone drugs or anything, but yeah, not all drugs are equal. They can all ruin your life in different ways, if abused.:finger4u:

[kyito]

Well, I got the Kratom this morning, pretty quick delivery, about 5 days. I tried 1/3 Tbsp of the super enhanced leaf, I just mixed it with my favorite beverage, gf juice. It masked the bitterness pretty well. Well, I haven't had any pods today and I feel fine, kinda mellow, not euphoric, but well. When I woke up I felt the usual way I do until I get my pods. Slight w/d's, nothing unbearable, but still unpleasant. I then took some of the kratom extract that I ordered along with it, it was free shipping if I boosted the order to over $50, which saved me $20 in shipping. I took about a teaspoon of the extract and mixed it with some hot water, it was very bitter, chased it with gfj. I may need to up my dose, it is supposed to be a 2-4 gram dosage(super enhanced leaf) according to the website I ordered from. I feel fine, so it is enteracting with my opiate receptors, I can feel a slight warmth. So it DOES help with w/d if you get good stuff, and this is supposedly certified by two different labs as genuine Mytragyna Speciosa Korth. So if you doubted Kratoms ability to help with opiate w/d's, like I did, I can say from my experience that it is true. I feel no need to ingest anything else. I take anywhere from 2 - 10 poppy pods per day, I just grind them up and eat them, it is easier than tea, and I have found it to be more effective, when you have good pods. I don't consider poppies as opiates as they are unrefined and very variable in potency, that is just my opinion, I know all opiates originate with poppies, but they are a refined form, it takes a lot of poppies to get even a couple grams of opium and even then it is at most 10% morphine. They do use Kratom in Thailand for treating opiate addiction, although, it is supposedly addicting itself, or they did anyway, before it was made illlegal there. So, I may just do this for three days, by then my 12 grams will probably be gone and I will have no Kratom dependence, which is unlikely unless ingesting large amounts, and hopefully no poppy addiction, which believe it or not, is a bitch.:(Probably because of the plethora of alkaloids which do the same thing as morphine, bind to receptor sites, even though they cause much less euphoria. This process still causes addiction, even with a small habitual dose, as the sites are filled, your body doesn't need to produce it's own chemicals. The best high, in my opinion, is of course, when you are not addicted, because your bodies own chems are present as well as having a lowered tolerance, that first hit is always the best.

[kyito]

Update - I ended up taking about another 1/2 Tbsp of the super enhanced kratom leaf, this was probably a mistake, I felt a little speedy for about an hour. I have read that at low doses it is a stimulant while at higher doses it is a sedative, well I didn't want to take anymore as I am using it to cut down my habit and didn't want to get any more edgy than I was, I'm having trouble with the fresh pods causing gastrointestinal disturbances and I just want a break from it. Well I just decided to make some poppy seed gf juice extract. This helped out a lot. I just took about four cups of poppy seeds and put it in my french press and added about two cups of gf juice, let it soak for an hour in the fridge strained and drank. Much better, I'm not high, but I feel 'normal'. I might have to say the seed tea/soak works much better for kicking/cutting back. Also the Kratom made me feel spaced out in my head for a while, kind of valium-like, I didn't like it. I will give it another shot tomorrow, but I am beginning to think Kratom is either not all it's cracked up to be, or it's just not for me.