Too much kratom??

[djnarkotik]

So i had some had a big dose of kratom yesterday. IT was really unpleasaent, made me dizzy and feel ill. has this happened to anyone else?

[jacky]

yes, too many times......

it took me awhile to realize that my best tolerated dose is 2 grams every hour if I want to....taking more than 5 grams will usually create some dysphoria/eye limitation in me.

I think alot of people overseas in endemic areas might chew the fresh leaf more often, which might allow for a little bit smoother ride up than just swallowing a bunch of powdered material directly to the stomach.

I find kratom is great for potentiating other opiates effects. I dont mind it alone either if I am not dependent on anything else, but the effect is slightly lacking in my opinion when kratom is the only opioid being consumed.

I find I also tolerate tinctures and some extracts better than the raw leaf material, I dont know if that is because they dont feel as strong, or if some component that causes nausea is dropped out in the extraction process. some purified isolates can be quite strong, but I dont get sick really compared to the raw leaf. If I would consume the equivalent amount of the compound in raw leaf that I do in an isolate, I would have to eat far more than my normal dose. there is a new extract that is purported to contain 7 milligrams of 7 hydroxy mitragyine per gram, this is a high amount of this compound compared to even other potent kratom extracts, the stuff is pretty good, and is as about a fine of a powder that I have ever seen...like moon dust or something....