Powdered Love
11-30-2006, 03:35 AM
So, SWIM aquired one 100mcg/hr (10.2mg total fentanyl) patch tonight and after much debate/thought as to the best ROA, SWIM decided smoking and eating the gel was the way to go. Here are SWIM's results:
SWIM considered adding the gel to a saline nasal inhaler with water but, after examining the nasal spayer, he came to the conclusion that it wouldn't deliver an accurate enough of a dose to ensure his safety.
He was sharing the patch with a friend so wearing it just wasn't an option, and also I think that the 100mcg/hr would be too strong of a dose for just SWIM or just SWIM's friend.
What SWIM ended up doing was cutting the corner of the patch off in order to easily squeeze the gel out. They started off by smoking a pinhead sized amount and achived very minimal results form this.
The set-up for smoking was this: One person would squeeze a pinhead sized ball of gel out of the patch and scoop it up with a bobby pin (we had taken the plastic tip off of one end of the bobby pin). Then that person would transfer the ball from the bobby pin to the middle of a piece of tinfoil. The tinfoil whas shaped like a soup ladel complete with a make-shift handle and everything. A straw cut short with scissors was used as the inhaler. The straw was held by one person (the smoker) directly over the ball of gel at a slight angle. The lighter was then lit and held underneath the foil until the crackling sound from the gel had stopped. It is important for the smoker to begin inhaling at medium-hard suction a few seconds before the lighter is sparked and keep inhaling until a few seconds after the lighter has stopped. This will ensure that the smoker gets all of the smoke (most is not even visible) into his/her lungs. The smoker would then hold the hit for about 10 seconds and breathe out. One can feel the effects right as the hit is let out.
The effects from smoking the gel are incredible. There is a powerful, fast, and incredibly euphoric rush if you do it correctly. The only downside is that the duration of the rush is only about 30 seconds. Residual effects can still be felt for about 5 to 10 minutes. SWIM can relate smoking fent to sort of like a "crack" version of heroin. It's pretty hard for someone not to want to keep taking hits every two to five minutes. SWIM's opinion of smoking fentanyl: Fun if you like to get an incredible rush, but very short acting and VERY addictive. The dosage was very, very, very small at first, and the pair worked their way up to larger doses ONLY after starting small. I cannot stress this enough. Remember with fentanyl, you can always take too little and take more later, but you can never take less.
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Next is the subject of taking the gel sublingually. The set up is this: SWIM was still using the same patch with the corner cut off and would squeeze a pinhead sized amount of gel out of the patch. He would then tansfer the gel to his fingertip and use his finger to put the gel into his mouth. Usually, SWIM would want to put the ball of gel under his tounge, towards the back, right where those two large veins are. He would then rub the gel around that area for about a minute. Remember - fantanyl is also easily absorbed through the skin, so be careful when using your finger to manipulate the gel.
The effects of sublingual fentanyl were reported to be very nice. Effects would begin about 8 to 12 minutes later, and last for about an hour. They were more subtle than smoking, but still very enjoyable. It was reported to be kind of like taking oxycodone orally. Again, SWIM and his friend started off with VERY small doses and then would work their way up as needed once they were comfortable with knowing what size dose was going to have how strong of an effect. Remember with fentanyl, you can always take too little and take more later, but you can never take less.
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Oral fentanyl was also experiment with. The set up was this: SWIM used the same method for dosing as with sublingually, but instead of transferring the ball of gel to under his tounge, it was allowed to dissolve in a small cup of water. The cup of water was then drunk.
Effects were reported to take much longer to come on. About 30 - 40 minutes. They also lasted longer. About 2 hours. Usually, a slightly larger dose was used than any other ROA because of kick in time and duration. But, SWIM would warn anyone to be careful with this as fentanyl is a VERY powerful drug and is easy to overdose with.
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Once SWIM and his buddy were comfortable with knowing strength of doses and durations for each ROA, they were able to combine all of the previously discussed ROAs to make one stong, long experience. If you combine all of the ROAs effectively, one can have the rush of smoking a dose, followed immediately by the sublingual dose kicking in, which is further followed by the oral dose kicking in. In total, one experience could last up to three to four hours by timing all of the ROAs just right. SWIM would recommend this to only the most experienced and confident of users as it would be WAY to easy to OD from fucking up if one didn't know EXACTLY what they were doing.
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On a side note, SWIM's buddy actually experimented with putting some of the gel on his balls. Yes, you heard me right. He rubbed the gel on his balls. SWIM says that his buddy couldn't distinguish the effects of doing this, so it's not really recommended.
So, all in all, SWIM reports that fentanyl can be a good opioid experience if used correctly with care, preparation, and thought. It is really not a drug to be taken lightly however, because of its sheer strength and ability to overwhelm an inexperienced and/or non-tolerant user. SWIM actually recommends that NO ONE do what was described above, but if one feels that they feel they MUST try it, at least they now have SWIM's outline to follow, and not just the idea of "hey lets suck the gel out of a patch". You would most likely DIE from that.
It is important to stress that SWIM feels that any ROA, other than what was described above, for fentanyl would be too dangerous to even consider. THIS INCLUDES IV, IM, or INTRANASALLY.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU EVER USE FENTANYL IN A WAY THAT GOES AGAINST CURRENT LAWS. SWIM accepts no liabilities of anyone using fentanyl in any way. Do so at your own risk.
Anyway, hope that will benefit some of you. Good luck, have fun, and be safe! :)
**EDIT**
Further trials into the smoking route have yielded some very happy results... SWIM reports that smoking small hits repetitively can "build up" and cause one to be quite high for about 20 to 30 minutes, tapering off at about 40 minutes. SWIM also says that smoking fent is quite close to the feeling commonly known as an orgasam,except over and over again! :D :D :D
SWIM considered adding the gel to a saline nasal inhaler with water but, after examining the nasal spayer, he came to the conclusion that it wouldn't deliver an accurate enough of a dose to ensure his safety.
He was sharing the patch with a friend so wearing it just wasn't an option, and also I think that the 100mcg/hr would be too strong of a dose for just SWIM or just SWIM's friend.
What SWIM ended up doing was cutting the corner of the patch off in order to easily squeeze the gel out. They started off by smoking a pinhead sized amount and achived very minimal results form this.
The set-up for smoking was this: One person would squeeze a pinhead sized ball of gel out of the patch and scoop it up with a bobby pin (we had taken the plastic tip off of one end of the bobby pin). Then that person would transfer the ball from the bobby pin to the middle of a piece of tinfoil. The tinfoil whas shaped like a soup ladel complete with a make-shift handle and everything. A straw cut short with scissors was used as the inhaler. The straw was held by one person (the smoker) directly over the ball of gel at a slight angle. The lighter was then lit and held underneath the foil until the crackling sound from the gel had stopped. It is important for the smoker to begin inhaling at medium-hard suction a few seconds before the lighter is sparked and keep inhaling until a few seconds after the lighter has stopped. This will ensure that the smoker gets all of the smoke (most is not even visible) into his/her lungs. The smoker would then hold the hit for about 10 seconds and breathe out. One can feel the effects right as the hit is let out.
The effects from smoking the gel are incredible. There is a powerful, fast, and incredibly euphoric rush if you do it correctly. The only downside is that the duration of the rush is only about 30 seconds. Residual effects can still be felt for about 5 to 10 minutes. SWIM can relate smoking fent to sort of like a "crack" version of heroin. It's pretty hard for someone not to want to keep taking hits every two to five minutes. SWIM's opinion of smoking fentanyl: Fun if you like to get an incredible rush, but very short acting and VERY addictive. The dosage was very, very, very small at first, and the pair worked their way up to larger doses ONLY after starting small. I cannot stress this enough. Remember with fentanyl, you can always take too little and take more later, but you can never take less.
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Next is the subject of taking the gel sublingually. The set up is this: SWIM was still using the same patch with the corner cut off and would squeeze a pinhead sized amount of gel out of the patch. He would then tansfer the gel to his fingertip and use his finger to put the gel into his mouth. Usually, SWIM would want to put the ball of gel under his tounge, towards the back, right where those two large veins are. He would then rub the gel around that area for about a minute. Remember - fantanyl is also easily absorbed through the skin, so be careful when using your finger to manipulate the gel.
The effects of sublingual fentanyl were reported to be very nice. Effects would begin about 8 to 12 minutes later, and last for about an hour. They were more subtle than smoking, but still very enjoyable. It was reported to be kind of like taking oxycodone orally. Again, SWIM and his friend started off with VERY small doses and then would work their way up as needed once they were comfortable with knowing what size dose was going to have how strong of an effect. Remember with fentanyl, you can always take too little and take more later, but you can never take less.
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Oral fentanyl was also experiment with. The set up was this: SWIM used the same method for dosing as with sublingually, but instead of transferring the ball of gel to under his tounge, it was allowed to dissolve in a small cup of water. The cup of water was then drunk.
Effects were reported to take much longer to come on. About 30 - 40 minutes. They also lasted longer. About 2 hours. Usually, a slightly larger dose was used than any other ROA because of kick in time and duration. But, SWIM would warn anyone to be careful with this as fentanyl is a VERY powerful drug and is easy to overdose with.
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Once SWIM and his buddy were comfortable with knowing strength of doses and durations for each ROA, they were able to combine all of the previously discussed ROAs to make one stong, long experience. If you combine all of the ROAs effectively, one can have the rush of smoking a dose, followed immediately by the sublingual dose kicking in, which is further followed by the oral dose kicking in. In total, one experience could last up to three to four hours by timing all of the ROAs just right. SWIM would recommend this to only the most experienced and confident of users as it would be WAY to easy to OD from fucking up if one didn't know EXACTLY what they were doing.
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On a side note, SWIM's buddy actually experimented with putting some of the gel on his balls. Yes, you heard me right. He rubbed the gel on his balls. SWIM says that his buddy couldn't distinguish the effects of doing this, so it's not really recommended.
So, all in all, SWIM reports that fentanyl can be a good opioid experience if used correctly with care, preparation, and thought. It is really not a drug to be taken lightly however, because of its sheer strength and ability to overwhelm an inexperienced and/or non-tolerant user. SWIM actually recommends that NO ONE do what was described above, but if one feels that they feel they MUST try it, at least they now have SWIM's outline to follow, and not just the idea of "hey lets suck the gel out of a patch". You would most likely DIE from that.
It is important to stress that SWIM feels that any ROA, other than what was described above, for fentanyl would be too dangerous to even consider. THIS INCLUDES IV, IM, or INTRANASALLY.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU EVER USE FENTANYL IN A WAY THAT GOES AGAINST CURRENT LAWS. SWIM accepts no liabilities of anyone using fentanyl in any way. Do so at your own risk.
Anyway, hope that will benefit some of you. Good luck, have fun, and be safe! :)
**EDIT**
Further trials into the smoking route have yielded some very happy results... SWIM reports that smoking small hits repetitively can "build up" and cause one to be quite high for about 20 to 30 minutes, tapering off at about 40 minutes. SWIM also says that smoking fent is quite close to the feeling commonly known as an orgasam,except over and over again! :D :D :D