OxyContinuously
11-28-2006, 09:20 AM
Hey everyone, I was just wondering what benzos you guys (and girls ;-) use to
A) augment the euphoria if that's your thing (I know some people just like opiates by themselves or with chronic)
B) for detox purposes (ie softening the mental collapse and physical annoyances like those dreaded muscle spasms and what not so often experienced during opiate withdrawal.)
Let me start by saying that in my experience, I usually lose the "magic" so to speak of the opiate in question after a few days of using benzos concurrently. For example, the first day, a 10 spot of valium (diazepam) is great with my standard dose of OC (40mg insufflated) and this seems to work for up to a week, give or take. After that, I notice that the benzo takes over in the sense that it dulls the narcotic high considerably. I know that diazepam, for example, lasts a long time in the body as metabolites compared to say, triazolam, which is very short. Having said that, and keeping in mind what happens, for my first section, I prefer diazepam. The other ones like alprazolam (xanax) seem a little too strong in the sense that they cloud the opiate a little bit. Clonazepam works very well I noticed for heroin specifically. There is little to no diminution of effects. As a matter of fact, the dope seems to be heightened a lot every time klonopin is used, but this is only true for klonopin, at least for me personally. So for the first section, I would say that Valium and Klonopin are my favorites for "augmentation" of the euphoria.
For the second part of the question, i read in another post (I think Jacky wrote it) that klonopin works great for easing the detox from dope/opiates and i agree with that. klonopin is the ONLY one, in my opinion, that seems to take the edge off wd to the extent that i don't want to jump off a building every waking hour; it also seems to do a better job at controlling those damn muscle spasms!!
So I would say for the first part: diazepam or to a lesser extent, klonopin or xanax (rarely) and for the second part; definitely klonopin/clonazepam without a doubt.
I really want to know what you guys think about this, so don't be shy and post away ;-)
A) augment the euphoria if that's your thing (I know some people just like opiates by themselves or with chronic)
B) for detox purposes (ie softening the mental collapse and physical annoyances like those dreaded muscle spasms and what not so often experienced during opiate withdrawal.)
Let me start by saying that in my experience, I usually lose the "magic" so to speak of the opiate in question after a few days of using benzos concurrently. For example, the first day, a 10 spot of valium (diazepam) is great with my standard dose of OC (40mg insufflated) and this seems to work for up to a week, give or take. After that, I notice that the benzo takes over in the sense that it dulls the narcotic high considerably. I know that diazepam, for example, lasts a long time in the body as metabolites compared to say, triazolam, which is very short. Having said that, and keeping in mind what happens, for my first section, I prefer diazepam. The other ones like alprazolam (xanax) seem a little too strong in the sense that they cloud the opiate a little bit. Clonazepam works very well I noticed for heroin specifically. There is little to no diminution of effects. As a matter of fact, the dope seems to be heightened a lot every time klonopin is used, but this is only true for klonopin, at least for me personally. So for the first section, I would say that Valium and Klonopin are my favorites for "augmentation" of the euphoria.
For the second part of the question, i read in another post (I think Jacky wrote it) that klonopin works great for easing the detox from dope/opiates and i agree with that. klonopin is the ONLY one, in my opinion, that seems to take the edge off wd to the extent that i don't want to jump off a building every waking hour; it also seems to do a better job at controlling those damn muscle spasms!!
So I would say for the first part: diazepam or to a lesser extent, klonopin or xanax (rarely) and for the second part; definitely klonopin/clonazepam without a doubt.
I really want to know what you guys think about this, so don't be shy and post away ;-)