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elay2838
11-11-2006, 04:39 PM
Would love to hear the stories as to how each of us got turned on to opies. I used to be a skateboarder and was always in the er for breaking an arm or some shit like that. It was then that i learned to love that warm feeling that engulfed your body. After that I had a few kidney stones that kept me supplied for awhile. That was all vic's though. The big shit didn't come till I was in a bradley accident(I'm in the military) and needed a 3 level spinal fusion. I have been on 80mg of oxycontin twice a day and 180 oxy Ir a month. That's my story and would love to hear yours
Ever see the movie Traffic where that dude from the 70's show pulls out his tinfoil and a tube, and the girl says "so, is this like freebasing" and he answers "no like, it is" ... that was me. That's pretty much how I got started.
Chemical_Boy
11-11-2006, 05:23 PM
My first was vicodin from wisdom tooth extraction. After hearing about the great painkiller buzz, I saved my 20 vicodin until I was healed. I used a combo of methamphetamine, weed, coke, and booze to get me through the initial discomfort. After I got better, I tried the vics. Didn't feel shit, so I sold them to a pillhead coworker of mine. It wasn't until later that I learned to appreciate the more subtle buzzes in life. Not to mention that from the start- once I learned to appreciate and recognize the buzz- I had to take at least 5 vics. I was a serious druggy at the time, though. It wasn't too long after the first vics that I ofund OC. Even with no tolerance, I started out taking tons of those. I didn't have a clue as to how much you were supposed to take. I can remember one day, at some PA Hill Climbs, where I at 2 40s and 4 or 5 20s, all while drinking large amounts of beer in the hot sun. This was with very little opie experience. I also remember noddong off like crazy while I was trying to drive home while smoking a joint.
May not have been the brightest when it came to drug use back then, in fact I was downright stupid and irresponsable, but it sure made for some fun times.
BizzyBone
11-11-2006, 05:36 PM
stealing moms tramadol...lmao that was the days
SpecialGuy69
11-11-2006, 06:45 PM
you know how people say "nobody put a gun to your head and made you take drugs"? They are full of shit.
And now I'm goin down to the high school to hand out free samples of heroin to get the 8th graders addicted.
madnesscult
11-11-2006, 07:10 PM
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?p=50841#post50841
I don't feel like writing it all out yet again.
Dexter the Meth Orphan
11-11-2006, 07:49 PM
When I signed up for the military...that is when I started....it's all been good since then!
Sumocat
11-11-2006, 08:27 PM
Well, it took a while for me. I got T3's one time when I had such bad tonsillits I couldn't swallow at all. Took some when well and enjoyed the feeling, but that didn't last long, so I forgot all about it.
Several years later, I had a fracture..vikes that time, but I didn't see what the big deal was. I felt cranky on them and (I still laugh now when I think of this), told the surgeon I didn't want a refill because I thought the crankiness meant I was getting dependent, lol.
Fast forwards a couple months after that...I'm still having pain even though the bone had healed, and a friend who gets about 180 norco a month gave me a couple and said, "I won't tell you what this is yet, but fair warning..you're going to get really chatty. Try to stay off email." heh.
That first 10 mg last over 24 hours, I kid you not. It was fantastic. Even though that good of a feeling didn't last, it was still a great buzz every time I took one from then on out. Kept on with that for over a year, a couple times per week. What's weird is my tolerance never made it above 20 mg.
Definitely miss that connect, but we lost touch.
Narkotikon
11-11-2006, 08:35 PM
First time I took an opiate, sophomore year in college in my dorm room with a couple of Lortab. Didn't really feel anything, but I think you have to learn how to catch the buzz when you first start out with any drug. Plus, it was only like 20 or 30mg of the hydrocodone, so it wasn't a lot.
First time I took an opiate and enjoyed it and wanted to take it for the pleasure of it, in 2001 when I was given some percocets. I think I took 5 of the 10mg Percs. I don't really remember which ones they were, because I was also drunk and on whippits. I just remember loving the feeling and becoming very sociable and blissful.
PRIZEFIGHTERINFERNO
11-11-2006, 08:35 PM
Pain man thats what got me started. Tooth pain and Chronic Pain. I just remember taking Norcos and laying back feeling so warm and comfortable...in a dream like state. That was great. I wish it was the same...some times it is. Now years later i take oxy and norco and any other opiate and it is still good. i just wish tolerance DID NOT EXIST. ya know. But yeah tooth pain it was so great to find out that i didnt have to suffer i could actually kill the pain and feel Grrrreeeeaaaate at the same time. :D
flipside
11-11-2006, 11:45 PM
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?p=50841#post50841
I don't feel like writing it all out yet again.
Right to the pont MC;) , check out the thread he linked for ya, you'll find this covered in great detail., and it's only about a week old:rolleyes:
Ragdoll
11-12-2006, 03:48 PM
Well, I'm still waiting to try opiates. I was waiting for my children to grow up, which they have. But the other stuff I do, I got started because I was severely depressed and badly suicidal...I couldn't stop the pain I was feeling; it was making me sick, literally sick. I think I was born depressed, because I remember "that feeling" when I was a tiny person. Anyway, by the time I was in my early twenties (about 20 years ago), I couldn't live like that anymore and I sure didn't want it to affect my kids...I mean, they didn't ask for a depressed mom and all that bullshit, ya know? So I went to a psychiatrist and he gave me pills...and that was that. I just wanted to be normal, like other people.......
lolleedee
11-12-2006, 04:07 PM
I had a really bad fall off of my horse. I jumped...he didn't...it was very ugly. I was jumping a wall out in a field and fell right onto the rockwall I was trying to sail over....herniated a few discs..got pain meds....complained...got more pain meds...got hooked on pain meds...stole pain meds...bought pain meds...overdosed on pain meds...detoxed...took more pain meds...had back surgery...had started methadone for addiction, but still got pain meds...that's it!
Woods
11-13-2006, 06:33 AM
When I was 16, after discovering Erowid I started getting my 18 year old friend to buy OTC Tylenol 1’s, and CWE about 300mg of codeine at a time. When I was 17 I started doing oxycontin occasionally. When I was 18 I started buying dilaudid off a 14 year old friend of mine. Also when I was 18 I started walking down to the downtown east side, when I was living in Vancouver, to buy heroin on the street. I’ve always been an adventurous person, I’ve always made the first step, and aside from pot and alcohol I’ve always been the first (and sometimes only, as is the case with heroin) person in my group of friends to try a drug.
Narkotikon
11-13-2006, 07:39 AM
When I was 16, after discovering Erowid I started getting my 18 year old friend to buy OTC Tylenol 1’s, and CWE about 300mg of codeine at a time. When I was 17 I started doing oxycontin occasionally. When I was 18 I started buying dilaudid off a 14 year old friend of mine. Also when I was 18 I started walking down to the downtown east side, when I was living in Vancouver, to buy heroin on the street. I’ve always been an adventurous person, I’ve always made the first step, and aside from pot and alcohol I’ve always been the first (and sometimes only, as is the case with heroin) person in my group of friends to try a drug.
Would you like a medal?
trainwrecker
11-13-2006, 10:28 AM
It's kind of hard to pinpoint any one incident as the 'start' of my love of opiates. Going back as far as I can remember I got a bottle of codine for a chest cold at 13 or 14. I hid the bottle in my room and would take little or big sips certian nights at bed time, or before school.
I recall taking vics and T3s before school throughout high school. I also did quite a lot of other shit in high school, and starting a career selling blow after graduation.
I never really did any hardcore opiates until my blow dealer had these little packets, just a zig-zag wrapped in tin foil. He said they were morphine, but I wasn't stuipid. I sniffed up half a pack and HOLY SHIT, that was IT.
superman
11-13-2006, 01:20 PM
i got started by stealing T3's from my step dad when i was about 13. i would pop a T3 for each beer i drank.
of course codiene got boring fastb so i stopped using it. then i discovered morphine after the death of a family member. i quickly realized that my chronic back pain was no more when i used, and was quick to adopt daily use. never looked back, no regrets. living free of pain is well worth a few days of withdrawal here and there.
Seedy
11-13-2006, 02:49 PM
I was a very accident proned kid and must have been prescribed codeines many times before I even knew they were opiates and had any receational value. I was actually completely anti drugs including alcohol until age 17 and would hassle anyone that was into them but that's another story...
One time I fucked myself up again, can't remember how, but by this time I had given in to the peer pressure and started rdinking & smoking weed. A friend of mine asked my what kind of pain killers they gave me. They were 30mg codeines (the asshole dr's here always prescribe poxy coedines, you'd have to be practally dead to get anything better), and my friend said if I have a few with some booze & weed I'd get a pretty good buzz. So I did just that and went to this crappy high school play, and and actually really enjoyed it. I had the attention span to sit through 2 hours of complete wank and not get all fidgety and actually enjoy it.
My next expreience was 6 years later after a very nasty breakup (first & only time I ever cheated on a girl). My chick moved out with all her stuff and I was left with no furniture, sleeping on the floor. One day a friend came along to cheer me up and he hapened to notice about 15 MASSIVE poppy plants in our garden. My friend, being a good druggy showed me how to bleed them and cook the heads and suddenly the worst breakup of my life wasn't so bad.
Now that didn't kick off a habit, it was a year or so later when I learnt that you could just buy a bunch of poppy seeds from the right shop and make a nice tea that just drains your worries away that I decided opiates were for me. Seed tea seems like the perfect maintenence dose for me. It lasts for ages, doesn't get me so high that I can't function, and generally keeps the blues away. In the weekends when I feel like getting properly high I just go buy some pods. Ahh life is good! :p
Karlin
11-14-2006, 11:43 AM
I got started after having chronic pain for many years, and finally a specialist sent me to a Doc who prescribed morphine. I didn't go there for morphine.
I took my mother with me to that first appointment, and when Doc mentioned Morphine, she said "will that be addictive?' - and he actually said: "No, not at these doses" [about 30mg three times a day].
I took them "as prescibed" for about 10 years, never injecting, and even sometimes taking less on good days, saving up a full bottle over the years. The doseages went up over the yers to about 240 mgs a day. MS Contins.
Thats how I got started taking morphine, thats how I got addicted. I didn't even realise that the morning cramps and other symptoms were just withdrawals... lol eh? The Docs didn't tell me either!!!!!!!!! How could someone not know they are addicted????? But I didn't really clue in until.....
Then I moved and the docs refused to prescribe much for me, on the basis that I was faking my pain, How horrible to be told that when sitting there in pain. I got only 15mg three times a day, but my tolerance was around 200 mg a day. They were M Eslons, and as I stared at those little white beads, I remembered one guy who injected morphine, and I realised that If I was to get anything out of that dose, I would need to inject it. I just needed to get a few big tasks done and needed pain relief to do them....
That first time was scary, but I was that desperate, my gut pains were so bad... how could I get to a meeting?? So I did it, hoping I chose the right vein, etc. Just guessing...
WOW!!! For the first time in years my gut pains went away, and my pains were ok, I got stuff done. I have NEVER swallowed since. Can't. Want to, Cant make myself, it seems a waste. But it is different - stick to swallowing 'cuz this isn't good - I am a serious addict now, but I was not when I was just swallowing. I almost quit on my own there, when swallowing, and its wayyy harder to quit when injecting.
It really was that doc who gave me 1/10th of what I was on that inspired me to inject. Ironic in a way. Deny my pain, reduce my morphine, and expect me to get along??? I was so suicidal...
Then I found the street actually had this same morphine!!!!!! I was elated, but since then I have spent ALL my money on street morph, losing weight and so on.
I was a nerdy type, still am. No street creds. I got ripped off a lot at first.
- and thats how I got started - first on morphine, then on injecting it. Different animals, they are.
sylis
11-14-2006, 02:21 PM
Lets just say it all started with my grandparents medicine cabinet(well opiates that is, but i had only previously done pot and dexamp before and the dexamp was from the med cabinet in my house lol). But it was not until about my 3rd or 4th time with opiates that i finally got that beautiful high that I had read all about. I was 13 years old and was just getting into the new and exiting world of substance abuse when I swiped some T3's for the previously mentioned med cab. I cant remember how much I took, but i know that I look on Erowid for a proper dose to take. But I really didnt feel anything from it. Had another experiance or 2 with T3's with the same results. Then another time I was rumaging throught the magical medicine cabinet of wonders i came accross oxycocet. I remembered reading something about some sort of drug oxy....something that was an opiate that could be snorted. So i took 2 of them(i didnt know that they were simply 5mg percs, i though they were oxycontin. Dont blame me I just turned 13 at the time lol). I was nervouse about trying these so i choped up half of one and sniffed it............AND OMG DID IT EVER BURN. Ok no more sniffin that stuff I though and proceeded to eat the remaining 1.5 for a total of 10mg of oxy. Now i couldnt figure oout if i was high or not, i felt a tiny bit relaxed but NOTHING like i had read opiates to be like and was starting to loose interest in them. But I decided to give it one more try(this turned out to be a huge turning point in my life) This time I just said fuck it and popped 4 (I still had no idea what the things really were and wut dose to take) So i had injested 20mg of oxycodone and within 15min....I was in heaven. Never had i ever felt that good. And still to this day nothing is as good as that high. And the rest they say is history. My grandparents got iller over time and the meds got stronger fent,dillies,morphine. And my grandma was also diabetic so I got all my drugs and rigs in one trip.
I had a really bad fall off of my horse.
That's funny. I had a really bad fall onto my horse. :D
How I started is too long a story,but the first shot I had I knew I was home.This was what I'd been looking for all my life.I guess some of you guys know just what I mean.
blackdog
11-14-2006, 03:58 PM
That's funny. I had a really bad fall onto my horse. :D
I had a really bad fall off of my horse. I jumped...he didn't...it was very ugly. I was jumping a wall out in a field and fell right onto the rockwall I was trying to sail over....herniated a few discs..got pain meds....complained...got more pain meds...got hooked on pain meds...stole pain meds...bought pain meds...overdosed on pain meds...detoxed...took more pain meds...had back surgery...had started methadone for addiction, but still got pain meds...that's it!
oh ok i get it she fell off her horse and your saying you fell onto the horse.........mmmmmmkayyyyyy that is funnie hah!!!!!
well i can go one better.....I fell into the horse..get it?not on, not off, into it hard,like a brick fucking wall,like seeing it from across the room we stared into each others eyes,it was love at first site.and let me tell you this bitch is psycho,she won't let me go anywhere with out her, i can't start my day with out giveing her a kiss or else i'll be sorry, and if i ever try to leave her i'll be sorry big time. man without her i am sick as a dog i cant live without her. all i do is think of her, when i'm with her and when i'm without her i miss her so.so much all i want to do is be with her and have her hold me close and tell me everything is going to be allright
that is all. peace/love da/dawgg:p
red26
11-14-2006, 04:11 PM
Blackdog I'm followin ya round here bro. No, good topic. Istarted luvin opiates at 13-14ish, but what set dat shit in stone was after I fucked my back royally at werk. The workmans comp Doctor set me up on vicoprofin 10s and perks... and really good muscle relaxers that I cant remember. The opiates gave me so much energy, cheered me up and I felt NO pain what-so-ever. At that time I had been skateboarding for 17-18 yrs. and acquired entirely too many injuries that plagued me day in and out. But dat was about 8 years ago, now I got my birfday pony on.
ModestMarr
11-14-2006, 09:39 PM
Well my first taste of opies came in the form of Vicodins that were laying around the house. At that point I could take em or leave them and popped 3 at a time (15mg) once a week for a couple of months. Then I tried four one time and all of the sudden I realized that they might have a special place in my life but ran out before I could experiment more. Fast forward a couple of months and it was time to get my wisdom teeth out. I was blessed to have a WONDERFUL oral surgeon that prescribed oxycodone for the pain, everyone else whose had there wizzies out that I have talked to was given Vikes so I considered myself very lucky. The difference between Oxycodone compared to Vikes was incredible. I only needed 10mg and I was in a blissfull world. I immediatly fell and love and I was lucky enough (lol) to get a dry socket, so I got more percies and then my friend gave me all of his from his wizzie operation and I was officially in love. Tons of pills and many other forms later I am hopelessly infatuated with opiate land!!
Woods
11-15-2006, 10:09 PM
Would you like a medal?
What do you mean by that?
slugbone
11-15-2006, 10:20 PM
What do you mean by that?
i think nark was just messing with you a little bit woods. i wouldn't read anything into it - he's is cool and he likes to kid around and give opiophiles shit ya know?
OhJoy
11-15-2006, 10:29 PM
My first exposure to opiates was after a root canal. Love at first bite
robojunkie
11-15-2006, 10:43 PM
It's kind of a wierd story really...when I was 15 I had a traumatic brain injury that left me in a total blackout for a week and when I came to I was never the same for years. Developed pretty severe OCD and as I had never heard of this at the time I sank into a huge depression (like I had accidently discovered some new wierd mental problem). Anyhow I gave up on psych drugs and started using real drugs. None ever made me feel right (except maybe DXM but it loses its magic). Then I discovered heroin (I admit I was heavily attracted to the idea of the so-called devil's drug/end on the line thing) at 18 and not only was all my negativity and depression relieved I was euphoric. No more need be said, right?
antigonemuse
11-15-2006, 11:22 PM
I started in my mommas tummy
Prenatal addiciton... guess that explains the extraordinary tolerance
:D
but seriously, doctors been feeding me this shit since i was 5... My frist script for narcs was in kindergarden to treat my ever present migraines
Narkotikon
11-15-2006, 11:33 PM
Lets just say it all started with my grandparents medicine cabinet(well opiates that is, but i had only previously done pot and dexamp before and the dexamp was from the med cabinet in my house lol). But it was not until about my 3rd or 4th time with opiates that i finally got that beautiful high that I had read all about. I was 13 years old and was just getting into the new and exiting world of substance abuse when I swiped some T3's for the previously mentioned med cab. I cant remember how much I took, but i know that I look on Erowid for a proper dose to take. But I really didnt feel anything from it. Had another experiance or 2 with T3's with the same results. Then another time I was rumaging throught the magical medicine cabinet of wonders i came accross oxycocet. I remembered reading something about some sort of drug oxy....something that was an opiate that could be snorted. So i took 2 of them(i didnt know that they were simply 5mg percs, i though they were oxycontin. Dont blame me I just turned 13 at the time lol). I was nervouse about trying these so i choped up half of one and sniffed it............AND OMG DID IT EVER BURN. Ok no more sniffin that stuff I though and proceeded to eat the remaining 1.5 for a total of 10mg of oxy. Now i couldnt figure oout if i was high or not, i felt a tiny bit relaxed but NOTHING like i had read opiates to be like and was starting to loose interest in them. But I decided to give it one more try(this turned out to be a huge turning point in my life) This time I just said fuck it and popped 4 (I still had no idea what the things really were and wut dose to take) So i had injested 20mg of oxycodone and within 15min....I was in heaven. Never had i ever felt that good. And still to this day nothing is as good as that high. And the rest they say is history. My grandparents got iller over time and the meds got stronger fent,dillies,morphine. And my grandma was also diabetic so I got all my drugs and rigs in one trip.
Didn't you feel bad for taking your sick grandmother's meds? I mean, you were only thirteen, so it's not like you were addicted yet. I"m not saying that it would have been any better to steal from her when you're addicted, but at least I can understand that urge. I can't say that I could condone or even think it's okay or cool or whatever to take a sick woman's morphine and points just because you're curious. I mean, that's actually kind of cruel if you think about it. I'm not trying to judge, I'm just trying to distinguish between the two. My maternal grandmother died in 2001, and he was prescribed OC 80s for pain. I had done opiates before that, and even percocets, so I was familiar with oxycodone, but I wasn't yet addicted to the point where if I didn't use, I'd be sick, and couldn't function. I mean, I could still go about daily business without opiates. And I even felt bad about considering taking those from her when she was on her deathbed (she was in the bedroom, and my mother and uncle were in there with her, and this big bottle of OC 80s was on the kitchen table just sitting in front of me, and I couldn't make myself take it. I mean, if I had, I would have taken a few, not the entire bottle or anything, but I still couldn't because she was my sick grandmother in pain and because I wasn't yet a junkie). Now, if I were like I am now and was in that situation again, going back in time and all, I probably would have. I don't like to admitt it, but that's just how it is. I just can't imagine being 13 and doing hardcore opiates first of all unless you're Drew Barrymore or Nicole Richie or some really bored rich kid or celebrity, or possibly undergoing so much emotional / physical abuse that you just don't care anymore. I mean, were you in pain? And if you were in pain, couldn't your parents have taken you to a doctor or something to get your own meds? I know that docs don't always like to give powerful narcotics to young adults, let alone children, but I don't think you said that you were even in pain. Again, I'm not trying to judge, I'm just trying to get into that mindset. Like I said, I could imagine doing it to my grandmother's OC's now, even moreso now because she passed away shortly after that (I always wondered whatever happened to that bottle of OC 80's) becuase I"m a junky and I just can't function without the opies. I mean, I try, but I just can't. I guess it's just hard for me to imagine screwing over a loved one for a high that you don't even need. Need is the key factor. If you had needed it, I could understand, but just to try something out? That's just sort of pathetic and sad.
Narkotikon
11-15-2006, 11:39 PM
i think nark was just messing with you a little bit woods. i wouldn't read anything into it - he's is cool and he likes to kid around and give opiophiles shit ya know?
Exactly Slug, thanks for watching my back, bro :-) For some reason that comment by Woods just annoyed me, like it was bragging or arrogant or something. That's fine and all, but I thought I'd be a little sarcastic. Nothing major. I had forgotten that I had even written it to tell you the truth. I hope no one takes what I say seriously. If I were mad, people would know it. I really am a generally sweet, shy, nice guy. But on the net, I get to be the outgoing person I'm not in public. The only thread I think deserved a bitchy response was the "I typically hate Junkies, but some of you guys seem cool thread," and the other one about asking for sources in Ohio or somehthing like that. Don't remember the exact name of it. It was posted yesterday or something like that. But yeah, I'm generally a nice guy. Would bend over backwards to help a friend, and no, not in that way. Besides, I'm generally too sedated to be mean. :)
Badly Drawn Girl
11-16-2006, 12:12 AM
I had a root canal that turned into a jaw infection. I was started out on Vicodin, bumped up to Perc's, and ended up on the meds for a month. There was no going back after that. I couldn't believe how much better I felt. Then my father had his teeth pulled, gave me his meds, my mother gets a lot of good stuff and she's always offered me pills for my pain. Basically I had all these opiates come into my life at one time. I spent years turning down her offers for Oxycodone for my pain. Ohhh if I could get those pills back. lol
chemboy7
11-16-2006, 01:13 AM
For some reason that comment by Woods just annoyed me, like it was bragging or arrogant or something.
That's just Woods being Woods.
shaunclo
11-16-2006, 01:35 AM
*********I went ahead and moved this thread here cause it wasnt in the appropriate forum*********
Please try to post your threads in the correct category, thanks
shaunclo
11-16-2006, 01:51 AM
I remember the first vicodin like it was yesterday! I cant exactly remember what year or how old I was, but that first warm glow was IMMACULATE!! I remember it more vividly and with more hype than my first sexual experience.
I knew from that moment on, this new love that we call opiates would play such a big role in my life forever. A couple years later my buddy brought over this thing called "black tar heroin" and it warmed my head first which slowly moved over my whole body with the most graceful touch. It gave me a peace I never knew exhisted, it was like it made my soul glow and made me more content with everything and everyone than I have ever been before.
opiates are just so peaceful, could you imagine if everyone in the world was a junkie..........well a junkie can dream, cant he?
exitwound
11-16-2006, 01:53 AM
I got started with the Hydrocodone I was prescribed for my wisdom tooth operation. And the many meds I got for various accidents when I was a professional extreme athlete.
Then, my sister was prescribed some herself for various things and I was old enough that I had some marijuana. I combined three Lortabs with a joint......and bada-boom! What a feeling!
Of course I rarely am able to enjoy that feeling. With my tolerance, and my medical requirements, I can't afford to take recreational doses. And I have the natural tendency to just puke when I even get close.....so it's no good. I can only hope for proper pain control, and maybe to feel a little better than normal as well.
Narkotikon
11-16-2006, 02:28 AM
I remember the first vicodin like it was yesterday! I cant exactly remember what year or how old I was, but that first warm glow was IMMACULATE!! I remember it more vividly and with more hype than my first sexual experience.
I knew from that moment on, this new love that we call opiates would play such a big role in my life forever. A couple years later my buddy brought over this thing called "black tar heroin" and it warmed my head first which slowly moved over my whole body with the most graceful touch. It gave me a peace I never knew exhisted, it was like it made my soul glow and made me more content with everything and everyone than I have ever been before.
opiates are just so peaceful, could you imagine if everyone in the world was a junkie..........well a junkie can dream, cant he?
I agree with you. My first time trying morphine was heavenly. I was just walking around all day, going to classes, not nodding off or anything, quite the opposite, I was just walking around in a cloud of euphoria. Everything was wonderful, the weather, sky, the birds chirping, the people who were nice made me smile, the people who were typical people (i.e., rude), just seemed to fade into the background. I can't explain it, it was a total sense of well-being, it was an almost gratitude for being alive. I felt like I had glimpsed into what Heaven must be like for those souls lucky enough to go there. You know, I don't buy into the belief that doing drugs is a sin. I just don't believe that. I do however sometimes wonder if that since opiates are often equated with this heavenly feeling, that what if Heaven (if and when a junky gets there) is somehow lessened for the junkie. I mean, what if this feeling that we all get and is known as euphoria on earth and in terms of junkiedom the "goal," is what regular people experience in Heaven, and when and if we get there, we're dissapointed because we've experienced it on earth therefore can't in Heaven. Am I making sense, or is it just too late at night? I guess I"m trying to say that what if the reward of euphoria that most people get in Heaven upon death is lessened or ruined for us junkies because we've been greedy and experienced it beforehand. On the other hand, what if Hell is like an everlasting withdrawal. What if Hell is someone hooking you up to a neverending Narcan drip, and you can't rip the thing out because it's adamantium or some shit. Does anyone else think of things like this, or am I just a freak?
Beautifully_Broken
11-16-2006, 06:36 AM
remember when moms used to rub paregoric on their kids gums to calm them? ...i have my suspisions that it was prenatal, but she denies the hell outa it....pharmacist's kid, born w/ bad lungs, and my mom cant handle coughing... both parents were heavy into lortab, mom got me addicted to cough syrup when i was in 3rd grade....i can still remember the fight my parents had when my dad found her givin me tussonex, then playing with my american girl dolls w/ this warm, happy feeling, like everything was right in the world and i never had to worry again....grew up in the pharmacy, used darvocette as chalk when i played school....played a lot of dr, parents would break the needles off syringes so i could give my dolls shots, parents: bad idea. got my first lortab @ 12, and sitting in geometry class i remember being able to talk and do my work, had just started my first of many antidepressants and i remember thinking "god damn, this works a lot better, i'm just gonna stick w/ this one". been on it as often as possible since then...found herion when i moved to the city, we had a breif affair but it couldnt last, i couldnt afford her. opiates fill somthing in my brain, making me feel normal and able to funtion out in the world. w/o them i have a host of fucking issues that make it hard to leave my apartment. and i'll gladly cut a couple years off my life by living a different lifestyle if it means experiencing the years i do have in opiated bliss
blackdog
11-16-2006, 09:26 AM
yo narkotikon you remind me of my dear friend devilsdrug ya sure don't hold your thoughts back.and it seems ya always got plenty ta share with the rest of us. now the DD's thoughts and sayings are always welcome. once you decipher them.
but and here comes the butt, it irks? me that your so soon ta judge a fellow opiophile fer borrowing some meds that were available to him from whatever source. and i can understand givin the loss of your dear grandparent whom you would never want to hurt nor suffer that ya would think it wrong ta borrow some meds.here's the thing i had someone post a comment on my blog condemning me fer taking meds from my sister who i went ta Boston ta get out of the hospital after she was in there fer 30 days or so.now this person kinda laid into me ,how could you what kinda brother would do that to his sister and blah blah blah.man what the fuck do you critics know? do yah even know half of the reality of how it went down or are yas so fucked on the shit that your on and yer upset that you didn't or couldn't do the same.....deep breath sorry but what i'm getting at is my sister had percocets,durogesics and some other various meds that she didn't take and had multiple freecare prescriptions and as much as the shit seemed to help kinda sorta she did not enjoy using them. myself on the other hand do enjoy imbibing in such matters. but where was i considering you joined us in October of 2006 lets see how long ago is that? hmmmmm I've seen that you got plenty ta say sometimes 2-3 even maybe 4 posts in a single thread. so i guess when people are quick ta judge it just rubs me the wrong way.
now don't let this bother you cause i'll get over it.
dawgg:cool:
Narkotikon
11-16-2006, 09:44 AM
yo narkotikon you remind me of my dear friend devilsdrug ya sure don't hold your thoughts back.and it seems ya always got plenty ta share with the rest of us. now the DD's thoughts and sayings are always welcome. once you decipher them.
but and here comes the butt, it irks? me that your so soon ta judge a fellow opiophile fer borrowing some meds that were available to him from whatever source. and i can understand givin the loss of your dear grandparent whom you would never want to hurt nor suffer that ya would think it wrong ta borrow some meds.here's the thing i had someone post a comment on my blog condemning me fer taking meds from my sister who i went ta Boston ta get out of the hospital after she was in there fer 30 days or so.now this person kinda laid into me ,how could you what kinda brother would do that to his sister and blah blah blah.man what the fuck do you critics know? do yah even know half of the reality of how it went down or are yas so fucked on the shit that your on and yer upset that you didn't or couldn't do the same.....deep breath sorry but what i'm getting at is my sister had percocets,durogesics and some other various meds that she didn't take and had multiple freecare prescriptions and as much as the shit seemed to help kinda sorta she did not enjoy using them. myself on the other hand do enjoy imbibing in such matters. but where was i considering you joined us in October of 2006 lets see how long ago is that? hmmmmm I've seen that you got plenty ta say sometimes 2-3 even maybe 4 posts in a single thread. so i guess when people are quick ta judge it just rubs me the wrong way.
now don't let this bother you cause i'll get over it.
dawgg:cool:
No, it doesn't offend or bother me. I understand what you're saying, and you're right, I am sometimes too quick to judge. But what I really meant was the distinction between stealing drugs when you're just starting out and are opiate naive and stealing when you're heavily into it and in need because of being sick / craving. I think you took from your sister because of the later, which I can totally relate to. Like I said, I would have most definately taken those OC's now if I were to go back in time like I am now, but then I didn't need them to function. Now I do. I guess I was just trying to say to that new guy is how I can't see how he could rationalize taking them from his grandparent's medicine cabinet when he was opiate naive. I mean, if I recall correctly, it's not that he was sick or in need, but just was curious. I guess I'm rationalizing now. It's just easier to steal family member's drugs when you're in need than when you're young and just saying, "gee, I wonder what this would be like." That's all I meant. I mean, I know stealing is wrong, and I wouldn't approve of it under any circumstances, but I can let it go and somewhat condone it or understand it when a junkie is sick and in need. That kid wasn't in need from what he posted, so that's why I said that. That's all I mean. But no, I'm not offended, and feel free to call me on stuff like that. I wasn't trying to be mean or anything.
blackdog
11-16-2006, 09:55 AM
hey thats kewl .let's go have a beer! hah I'm a little on my sick right now and too lazy ta go get my meth from the car. so i just let things kinda rub me the wrong way.it's all good but i think what it might have been is like sniffing your aunties panties or sumthing experimentation like for me with my sis it was like breaking bread and sharing a meal. I've always wanted ta try fentynal but it ain't shit it was a waste same with the perc 30's nada but it was my sisters love and appreciation for what i did fer her that she wanted ta share with her brother....deep sigh. i feel better now thanx and i made a new friend ?hmmmm hah!! peace da/dawgg
Woods
11-27-2006, 12:08 AM
Exactly Slug, thanks for watching my back, bro :-) For some reason that comment by Woods just annoyed me, like it was bragging or arrogant or something. That's fine and all, but I thought I'd be a little sarcastic. Nothing major. I had forgotten that I had even written it to tell you the truth. I hope no one takes what I say seriously. If I were mad, people would know it. I really am a generally sweet, shy, nice guy. But on the net, I get to be the outgoing person I'm not in public. The only thread I think deserved a bitchy response was the "I typically hate Junkies, but some of you guys seem cool thread," and the other one about asking for sources in Ohio or somehthing like that. Don't remember the exact name of it. It was posted yesterday or something like that. But yeah, I'm generally a nice guy. Would bend over backwards to help a friend, and no, not in that way. Besides, I'm generally too sedated to be mean. :)
Ok, I just don’t really understand how a couple line summary telling as basically as possible how I got started. As for the part about me being the adventurous type when it comes to drugs, seeking them out, I just mentioned that because it seems like most people are introduced to them by someone, so it seemed like a completely legitimate thing to add.
superman
11-29-2006, 07:02 AM
"it seems like most people are introduced to them by someone"
I have noticed this as well. I have always been the opposite also
devilsdrug
11-29-2006, 07:46 AM
just yesterday im workin for some old ladies in very bad health well i notice one nodden , iknew they had pill of some kind they had too , so i did some snoopin and lo and behold a bottle of methodose is on the table wow. theyre goin out in style , naw i didnt even have a thought of samplein , i was just curious
SalvationThroughDilaudid
12-14-2006, 12:15 AM
I got started as a result of a work related injury. I have had other injuries before, like broken feet, etc. and just sort of shrugged it off, didn't even take the painkillers that the doc gave me cause I figured, hey...I'm a badass; pills, I don't need no steenkin pills man !!!:cool: Well fast forward about 2 years and I'm at work happily piddling along when a very large and VERY heavy ceiling beam hits me squarely on the noggin. I go to the ER and still for about 3 months say, nah I'm cool. No painkillers needed. Then one cold stormy day, about a week before my MRI came back (with neat little pics of all my fucked up discs and abnormally curved spine), I bent down to pick up a load of laundry. And I hurt badly. VERY badly. So I took a single 10mg lortab just as the doc had prescribed. I thought the dickhead gave me placebo. So I down another. A little dizzy, but no relief. Then one more. After about 45 min. I'm feeling VERY nice, and go back to doing the laundry. And cutting the grass. And cleaning the house. And washing the dog. And etc. etc. until :confused: ...I hurt again. Guess it must have worn off. So it's back to taking more, and more, and more. Now I'm up to 60mg a day just to function normally. And that's barely enough to stave off the pain I feel. Geez, I wish docs would dose people more appropriately according to the individual, instead of dosing my 6'2 290lb. frame as if I were a little old lady or something.:mad:
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