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Zoop

11-11-2006, 07:28 AM

devilsdrug

11-11-2006, 07:39 AM

how ur bp zoop , when i knew my bp was way low as in too much dope i didnt worry about it just shot away

tonyk

11-11-2006, 01:17 PM

Yes, I start IV,s at my job. If BP is low you may not get any flashback. But I'd be careful cuz if it isn't in the vein you'll get a nasty abcess & little or no high.

madnesscult

11-11-2006, 05:58 PM

Yep. There's been times where I know I'm in the damn vein, but it's still not registering, so I'll just push a little in as a test. Most of the time it just misses, but sometimes it goes in just fine and I do the rest of the shot.

Duckfeet

11-11-2006, 09:15 PM

Hey I couldn't find anything about this by searching.

I want to ask, has anyone ever had a veing totally not register any blood, yet when you push the shot in, it's right in there?

I am having this experience with my hand the past few days.

Yeah, hands are tricky anyway...those little veins... I've had it happen, and hit, and I figure the rig was just slightly clogged...but I usually regret it, and end up missing. But I've done it plenty, just git impatient, tired of messing with the damn thing, and "hope for the best... Part of the deal, I guess. Nothing I'd ever want to count on... No blood, no dope...*usually.*

Worse than that is the reverse, when you get blood, and *miss*!!! ...and then I spend the next ten minutes trying to convince myself I really did get off...looking in the mirror, seeing if my eyes are pinning...*that* sucks :-(

madnesscult

11-11-2006, 11:18 PM

That's funny Duck.

I think what's worse is when you do register, then when you pull off the tie the damn vein disappears. I actually missed twice trying to do a shot earlier because of this shit :(

flipside

11-11-2006, 11:25 PM

That's funny Duck.

I think what's worse is when you do register, then when you pull off the tie the damn vein disappears. I actually missed twice trying to do a shot earlier because of this shit :(

MC, you release your tie befor you push you dope in? If you do can I ask why? Not judging or anything just curious.

Duckfeet

11-12-2006, 12:57 AM

MC, you release your tie befor you push you dope in? If you do can I ask why? Not judging or anything just curious.

I know the question is to MC, but I never released the tie either, because of that very reason, that I figure it would "jiggle" the point...but others did, I believe, because they thought the tie would obstruct the "flow" so to speak.

All kind of weird junky rituals, I think we all get, and just assume "that is the way it's done." For example, I always pull the rig out, and hide spoon and everything real fast, before the dope hits.

"Registering" too, is another one. On east coast I always was in habit of "registering" (checking I had hit, *after* I pushed the dope in, by pulling back on plunger slightly...) to check for blood. But once in California, I did that, and somebody said, "Quit that New York shit." All this cool education you get along the way ;-)

RobOC

11-12-2006, 01:08 AM

I find that if I am trying to hit a vein that has some miles on it then it does not always register. i usually dont push in if it doesnt register, too much risk as I am not 100% sure I am in. As for releasing the tie, it depends on how close the tie is to my injection sight. If I have alot of room or I am just in a large, healthy vein I will leave it tied while I push. If not I release the tie most of the way, still leaving a little tension to keep the vein visible. I am not sure if this is true but I heard that it is possible to blow ur vein if keep the tie on. That would suck. I like the few veins I have left and rely on them being around for a while, if I blew a good one it would just make it that much harder to hit in the future.

youwonhundred

11-12-2006, 03:10 AM

Hmm.. you know, I can only speak for myself here, but I have found that if i remove the tie before the hit, the vein disappears. Most of that is due to having been on vancomyacin like six times in the past couple of years. I got MRSA from a dirty operating room a few years ago, and it tends to flare up every so often. With my weird allergies to stuff, the vanc is the only thing that will treat the mrsa flareups. Unfortunately, it trashes out your veins, which I was doing a damn fine job of on my own, thanks. At any rate, if it aint a D or a bag of good dope, I don't waste my time banging it.

Moving right along... In response to the original question of the thread, I cant say that I have ever had a vein not register but work anyway. Many many times have I just said the hell with it and pushed the shot anyway. I know its dangerous, but 45 mins of digging for a vein, you at least want to get the shit in you. Especially if I was sick at the time.

Also, I dont recall who it was that made the comment about junkies back east registering a shot after you push the dope in, but I for one have always done that, and i first started shooting H in NC about 15 years ago, and I just assumed that was how it was done, since thats what the people I was getting high with were doing.

Damn, those were the days... little to no habit so one bag would fix me right all day long. Now that I see a pain management doc regularly, I seem to run short every freakin time. 120 tabs seems like a lot, when the bottle is full, anyway. Even worse now that the missus likes them too... so the bottle gets emptier and emptier even when i try to limit myself to whats prescribed. I don't mean to say that I mind sharing with her, cause I love the wife, but she does it cause she likes em, not from the same "need" that I have. Maybe I am just a glutton for punishment, but I don't mind doing without for a while, but I wouldn't do it for anyone else.

Jeebus! I ramble... I'll shut up now.

madnesscult

11-12-2006, 10:36 PM

I also register after I've finished the shot, but that's because I've found it helps a lot with getting all of the dope going...if I register afterwards, when I pull the needle out it has a lot less of a chance of having a little dope come out with it (and having it burn/hurt a little).

superman

11-13-2006, 01:42 PM

i have had an over-used vein stop registering. but i never pushed the hit in anyways. i always wondered about this, but assumed this is what is referred to as a collapsed vein.

with time it will recover, or it did for me at least

AWOL

11-13-2006, 01:52 PM

That's funny Duck.

I think what's worse is when you do register, then when you pull off the tie the damn vein disappears. I actually missed twice trying to do a shot earlier because of this shit :(

Couldn't you be at risk of going through the other side of the vein by doing this? I don't know I always registered, shot, released.

candy

11-13-2006, 07:12 PM

Hey I couldn't find anything about this by searching.

I want to ask, has anyone ever had a veing totally not register any blood, yet when you push the shot in, it's right in there?

I am having this experience with my hand the past few days.

Are you putting the needle in with the bevel side up? This can cause the problem your having. Low blood pressure can be a problem, but I doubt it. Check the position of your needle and the bevel side should be up. If your not registering any blood or getting a "flash", moving the needle ever so gently up a bit or pulling back just a tiny bit may do the trick. Those veins in the hands are smaller and you may be up against the wall of the vein, at or near a valve, or the position of your needle is off a bit.

As long as the area is not puffing up or getting red and sore, maybe your in. It is hard not to notice a miss in the hand.

And I always untied my tourniquet before injection. Easy way to blow your veins.

AWOL

11-13-2006, 07:17 PM

And I always untied my tourniquet before injection. Easy way to blow your veins.

Thanks Candy.

candy

11-13-2006, 07:35 PM

Thanks Candy.

Your quite welcome...Post any of your questions here or you can always send me a PM.

LIke someone said, there are many tricks junkies find that work for them and some do it one way and others another. Been in CA all my life and always pulled back after a shot to get the flash and pushed it back in just as quick. Always gave me a sense of knowing I really was in that vein. The weird shit we think and do. My motto has always been safety first and keeping yourself clean and healthy. Hmmm, could be why I continue to do what I do, but by always taking your time and following a clean technique and staying healthy, you will be less likely to encounter problems and enjoy your opiates without the worries of abscesses and other crap.

I always recommend that anyone who has shared at any point, even water, to be tested for Hep C/HIV. Get that out of the way, only use your own equipment and enjoy it while it lasts!

I just cannot understand why they won't let me spread my good message during "Just Say No To Drugs"
week. Could you imagine me telling a bunch of 8 & 9 year olds about bleaching and abscess prevention?
I guess not the message Nancy Reagan had in mind!

AWOL

11-13-2006, 07:44 PM

^^ Nacy Reagon could have done with a little smack herself.

Also good to know about which way to face the needle. I don't shoot anymore, but good to know.

Woowoo

05-13-2007, 06:44 AM

Check the position of your needle and the bevel side should be up.
That is such an important point, and one that people don't talk about very much. To really get this point acorss, I think it deserves an illustration.

chemboy7

05-13-2007, 07:38 AM

Yeah, bevel up and turniquiet off before slamming are good practices. I have hardly ever had a problem getting a flash on myself but recently fixing someone else up I knew I was in a vein and still didn't register. It definately wasn't my technique and the veins I was after were easy enough to hit, I knew for a fact I was in. That was the first thing I thought of, low blood pressure. Sure enough, I asked and I was right. I felt like a fucking doctor; next time I fix someone else up I'm gonna wear a lab coat with a stethoscope around my neck. Hahaha. Take two and call me in the morning.

nick

05-13-2007, 09:53 AM