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harbacious
05-16-2005, 02:08 PM
Hi all,

I'm currently taking Oxy 20mg 5x per day, It's great but after taking for 2 yrs i'm pretty tolerant to it by now. I'm afraid to ask my doc to increase the dosagqe so i'm looking for an effective way to potentiate this medication. I'm already chewing these in order to get full effects all at once, but I'd like to go back to just swallowing them whole. Does anyone have any suggestions???

COLONELWAYNE
05-17-2005, 06:09 AM
Harbacious, Thats the monkey that comes with oc's.If you can go back to taking them whole then do it! otherwise you'll have to move up to the 40's then the 80's and when that runs out,you'll be licking off the coating and snorting them or potentiating them with dextro and when it gets that far it's a trip to re-hab and a son-of-a-bitch from there on out.You're lucky,you have a legit script so it's not costing you out the ass yet.OC's are a wonderful breakthrough in pain management and should be sold over the counter as far as I'm concerned(HA!HA!) but I guess everything comes with a price and the price with these is that monkey that will get on your back if you're not careful.And if you haven't guessed yet, I'm trying to recover from the very things I'm lecturing you on.Tolerence is hell but it can lead to a helluva lot worse! Good Luck! Friend Peace out! C.W.

chucky
05-17-2005, 12:50 PM
Go to doctor and get 40's. There is many ways to potentiate and few work with good or excellent results, besides taking higher qaulity or quantity sounds like you've been on them for pain and if they are truyly helping you should up the milligrams to 40. later:cool:

harbacious
05-17-2005, 12:51 PM
Thanks Colonel, yeah it's been a fun ride, but I know I'm staring down the barrel of a loaded cannon called addiction. I do love the high, but this is something I have to control, if not for me, must assuredly for my wife and kids. The funny thing is that I sought out this medication to control the pain and enable me to help out more around the house. Oh well, I know my situation is like a million others out there. Thanks for your concern. Peace

LIVE4EVER
05-17-2005, 01:25 PM
I've heard that Tagamet HB (Cimetidine) taken prior to dosing will make your high last longer. Also, grapefruit juice. I believe grapefruit juice inhibits a liver enzyme that breaks down Oxycodone ( and a lot of other drugs). I'm not sure of its mechanism, you'd have to ask someone who knows a little about chemistry and such. Taking Soma, (Carisoprodol) a muscle relaxer, can enhance your high. Folks also like to take a benzodiazapine (valium, xanax, ativan, klonopin, etc.) to catch a nod. An antihistamine such as Vistaril, Atarax, Benedryl and over the counter sleep aids potentiate opiates. Also, dextromethorphan can also help regulate tolerance and may increase the effects of opiates. Anyway, there are many ways to potentiate the high, but I'm not sure if it is enough to have you going back and swallowing OxyContin whole. Give them a try.

Peripat
05-17-2005, 06:21 PM
New opiophile sp33dballin posted this link in another forum, in answer to a similar question to the above one, so hopefully you'll find it useful, harbacious.

http://adhpage.tripod.com/potentiators.htm

COLONELWAYNE
05-17-2005, 10:09 PM
harbacious,see if your doc will up you to 40's. Explain to him how many of the 20's your having to take to alleviate the pain.DON'T mention a word that you've been chewing them.Thats a big fat no no with them and will make you a prime candidate for some re-hab! Then take the 40's as you should (no crushing!) Once you get your body adjusted to this point,you won't have near as hard of time getting off them should you ever have to. being you are hooked up like you are, you should try to go 5 days without taking nada nothing not even an aspirin just to see how your going to respond, It may scare you to death like it did me cause it's damn sure no picnic! But you got one priority right and thats doing it for your wife and kids, there's no better reason other than for yourself! My two kids have been begging to go to Disneyworld and of course I always tell them we can't afford it right now. Truth be known we could have went at least 6 times and stayed in the finest resort they have to offer if ole dad would just give up his oc habit for 2 or 3 months.Crying damn shame isn't it?

Godsgift
05-24-2005, 03:54 PM
Grapefruit juice, empty stomach, etc. Like someone above me said, Somas work very well. Just don't take to many because then you will lose the euphoria and just slip into a nod.

Blake
05-25-2005, 04:43 PM
If I was still getting loaded, I'd go back to the doc and get him to up you script to the 40's or 80's if you can get him to. You can also hit a couple of different doctors in different areas. I used to take soma's with opiates to intensify the effects also. Then again you could just suck the coating off and crush and snort them.

stingray1784
06-02-2005, 11:01 AM
Like godsgift said, an empty stomach works well. food in the stomach slows/inhibits absorbtion of OC, and can lead to a delayed, and sometimes weaker, effect. and the grapefruit juice is good too. just make sure that u buy the kind that is 100% juice and not the 3%, or whatever, concentrate shit. as some1 mentioned above, i've heard of tagamet (cimetidine) working to potentiate opiates as well. take a dose an hr. before u take your OC and it should help a little bit. also, theres a prescription antihistamine-type medicine called hyrdroxyzine that potentiates opiates as well, although i dont know how good. its also not an easy thing to get your hands on, being an RX. another thing you could add to this mix is about 1000mg.s (i wouldn't go any higher or u might have to start worrying about the liver) of tylenol. tylenol works synergisticly with certain opiates, which is why you see it in percocet, vicodin, etc. If you try all these things together, you might see a some kind of a difference. no guarantees tho, as every1 is different. good luck.

JoyDivision
06-04-2005, 02:01 AM
I'm on 10mg OxyContin CR's and I'm finding that with my pain I need to take 2-3 a day. This is fine but I was only given 20 so far and soo I'll be only given 60 to last a month.

I just wanted to try taking 1 a day but some days my pain is really bad and I need more. I have 11 left to last me till I see my Doctor

My pain specialist said if I needed to go up in dosage I'd have to see him. Which isn't good because he is a complete c&*t. He was like "start slow, go low" and I thought that was fine but when I asked "what about breakthrough pain" he said "I don't believe in breakthrough pain, take panadol (500mg Aceteminophen).

It's already a bitch using Oxy's to control pain let alone have a habit. I don't really want to have a habit. I just want no pain or very little pain at all.

How can I make the normal OxyContin 10mg CR's last longer.

Note that I am in Australia. No Tagamet I don't think. How much grapefruit juice would be good? I've been taking Panadeine's with them (8mg Codeine + 500mg Aceteminiphen/Paracetamol) it seems to help a little bit.

Obviously snorting and or shooting won't make them last longer than just taking them as prescribed.
And will just waste them. Maybe if I had the supply or wanted to get fully hooked. But this are for genuine pain.

My Doctors are total pricks they prescribe me this shit, say take as directed and then don't give me the supply to take as directed i.e. he put on the pack 2 twice a day or 3 if required but only gave me 20. Bastard. Apparently he is a MD in the USA so probably some of you may have run into him. Anyone ever visted a Doctor with an Australian accent who was a total prick and had you in and out of his office in less than 10 minutes and who really hates valium?

COLONELWAYNE
06-04-2005, 03:00 AM
Hey joy ,Yeah we have plenty of those type assholes working in the U.S as well! We have all of these ambulance chasing lawyers to thank for that! Doctors here are paying so much for malpractice insurance they're scared to death of being sued for making a poor decision and furthermore the damn DEA wants to fingerprint everyone of them now before allowing them to prescribe anything above a scheduleIII so in a way I sort of sympathize with the Dr. Hell, he's caught up in the system with the rest of us and actually stands to lose the most if he does screwup.Meanwhile back to your dilemma,try chewing up or crushing one or two of the ten's (after you wash off the coating) and swallowing them in or with water cause they're gonna be bitter.Then wait about thirty minutes to an hour and take your normal dose as directed with about 8oz of white grapefruit juice and then take them on schedule until you go to bed or miss a dose and then start all over the next morning with the same routine.You may have to increase your dose anyway because you may have a tolerence level built up now. Depends on how long you've been on them and how many.All we are doing here is putting a double dose in you all at once and potientiating it with the grapefruit juice instead of waiting for the time release to put a little in here and there over a period of several hours. By taking the others 30 min to an hour later and not crushing them or potientiating them your allowing the time release on the tablet to keep a steady flow of medicine in your system at a normal rate to keep any breakthrough pain from creeping up on you.It's better to monitor pain on a schedule continuosly than to let it come back full blown and try to knock it out again.Word of caution though,this is the way most people wind up getting that monkey on their back and become full blown addicts but hey,severe pain will ruin your life a helluva lot quicker! Peace out and BE CAREFUL! C.W.

JoyDivision
06-04-2005, 03:42 AM
Thanks. I've only been on them since the 31st and I've taken 9 10's so far. I think my tolerance my be up because of all the other shit I've been taking. I have a pretty high tolerance to codeine and have used poppy seed tea and many other lower class opiates.

If he put me on 20's things probably wouldn't be so bad. I don't want to go overkill just have my pain managed. My Bro is on 80's and he takes like 2 of them (and fuck knows what else) I don't need that much yet. The first time I took the 10 I was fine and I only needed a 10 the next day aswell, after that I needed at least 20 and now about 30mg's (which is the max I am prescribed to have).

But your plan makes sense. Knock out the pain then have a backup ready for the pain that comes after. Hopefully I be able to get a monthly supply of 60 a month. So I'll use this method. I don't really require them at night. Just morning and afternoon.

LIVE4EVER
06-07-2005, 12:25 PM
Purdue Pharma. says that OC's last 12 hours. That's a load of crap. Maybe 6-8 hrs if taken as prescribed. I'm sorry you are having trouble with your doc. I think its a miracle you were prescribed any OC's at all, regardless of your pain. I don't know of any docs that prescribe them, even the quacks. Maybe you should look into finding another doctor. Someone who believes in "breakthrough pain".

Shreddi
06-09-2005, 02:50 AM
"Tips For Ingestion: 1. The efficacy of codeine, hydrocodone, oxycodone, and dihydrocodeine can be increased by at least 10% by taking them rectally." Thats the quote for a link above. allright has anyone tried it? :) I have heard that before and infact in Europe thats how a lot of people do there coke. Anyway, (yea your gonna laugh but I bet your curious) im gonna try it (yuk). Damn man shootin it is a waste and snortin it wastes my nasal passages. We will see. haha.

Shreddi
06-11-2005, 02:50 PM
K man heres my opinion on how to to OC's Shootin IV is a waste, can someone tell me they get a better high doing the same amount shootin as they do snorting the sam exact amount? Stickin the damn stuff up you butt works but is no better than snortin. Snortin is good probably best but I sit here with a neo-synephrine soaked tissue up each of my nostrils as im typing this (my wife thinks ive lost my mind and I look like a dork). Anyway, I have not tried IM (shootin into a muscle) or skin popping. I would imagine it not being any better than IV but could be wrong. Does anyone know how shooting IM works? What seems to work very well and I am sticking to this procedure is; crushing up into fine powder ( you can even leave the skin on ) place under your tongue and let absorbe there. I read there are more blood vessels there than anywhere except your butt which wasnt really worth it. Any other suggestions? I am really curious about these people who say they IV the stuff and its great. Ive been shootin dilidauds, H and other stuff mixed with it for over 2 decades so im not doin it wrong. I assume it doesnt take more than about 5 minutes of mixing the crushed up pill in water to get the water soluable stuff out of it. Strain it thru cotton and leave the gunk behind and there is should be. Hell im gonna try it again right now. My wife isnt home and thats the only thing she doesnt like me doin. I have some disolving under my tongue but what the hell it couldnt hurt :) These tissues up my nose are getting gross now anyway.

Radiant_decay
06-27-2005, 12:54 AM
Hey, it sounds to me like you need to be on a breakthrough med haven't they given some immediate realease morphine or oxy to go with you usual sr meds? if not I would ask about some breakthrough meds if taking the 40 the correct doesn't end up working for you getting breakthrough is really common and oc's and breakthrough meds usually go hand and hand for bad days.

Ogre
06-27-2005, 01:35 AM
HAving something for breakthrough pain would be good for him but if he's doctor says he doesn't nelieve in breakthrough pain then I'd bet that almost he says would convice his doctor to give him something for it.
How can he say he doesn't believe in it? Seems like a no brainer that it's real.

COLONELWAYNE
06-27-2005, 10:29 AM
The best thing I found for breakthrough pain while taking oc's was something called "ROXICODONE" works pretty damn good too if I have to say so myself.But that is the past talking,I "STILL ON THE WAGON" and it's "STILL A BITCH" LOL!

doctor diesel
06-27-2005, 11:48 AM
Thanks. I've only been on them since the 31st and I've taken 9 10's so far. I think my tolerance my be up because of all the other shit I've been taking. I have a pretty high tolerance to codeine and have used poppy seed tea and many other lower class opiates.

If he put me on 20's things probably wouldn't be so bad. I don't want to go overkill just have my pain managed. My Bro is on 80's and he takes like 2 of them (and fuck knows what else) I don't need that much yet. The first time I took the 10 I was fine and I only needed a 10 the next day aswell, after that I needed at least 20 and now about 30mg's (which is the max I am prescribed to have).

But your plan makes sense. Knock out the pain then have a backup ready for the pain that comes after. Hopefully I be able to get a monthly supply of 60 a month. So I'll use this method. I don't really require them at night. Just morning and afternoon.


Can I suggest that you just order yourself some dried poppy pods and make weak tea? This is by far the most effective and long lasting painkiller we've found in this househould. And if it's not effective enough you just take another cup, and another until the pain disappears.

Just be aware of the addictio potential.

Good luck.

Doctor Diesel