The System -- A Proposal

[Levity]

Learn the system.
Know the system.
Beat the system.


I consider myself an learned expert at manipulating people. I have BS in Psychology with an emphasis on Research, MA in Experimental Psychology with an emphasis on Clinical/Drug Abuse and Counseling, first-year PhD candidate in Psychology with possible PharmD accreditation, five year program. I'm also a licensed Alcohol and Drug Counselor in Alabama and Illinois, pending approval of my supervisor, who is a class-A whore, but knows I do my job better than she does hers.

In other words, I've learned the system.

I've been an prescribed opiate user six the age of sixteen, and recreational abuser since the age of nineteen. I've been in and out of hospitals since I was sixteen and have over fifty surgeries. I've seen orthopedists, neurologists, cardiologists, psychiatrists, neurosurgeons, and any other ologist, M.D. you can imagine, not to mention herbalists, holistic healers, accupuncturists, and a mottly of other medicos. I’m regularly treated by ERs, GPs, and Pain Management doctors. Both my mother, father, and grandmother are all treated for different intractable pain purposes

So, I know the system.

Lastly, I’ve walked into an ER with nothing really wrong with me, had Hydromorphone shot in my vein and walked out with a script for a bottle of 30 K-4s and hard to get referals for the hospital's own Pain Management clinic. I’ve had doctors fall over themselves to give me Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, Morphine, Hydromorphone, Demerol, and benzos like I was their dying mother asking for a hug. It doesn’t work every time, but my system can and often does have me stocked with enough opiates, barbiturates, and benzodiazepines to keep me and three friends high on our “dope days,” Tuesdays, Fridays, and Saturdays, without only seldom having to resort to illegally purchased or stolen pills.

I can beat the system.

So, before I start drafting “Levity’s How-To Guide For Getting the Drugs You Want,” first I want to know is there an interest, and secondly, would such an instructive guide be outside or pushing the limits of forum rules. I also want to make sure it won’t piss everyone off, since I know some of us here (myself included) are chronic pain suffers and drug seeking assholes (myself included) make it harder for to get scripted. I also want to make it clear I’m not trying to be an egotistical asshat (even though I am), and I want this to be a group effort. A sort of Opiophiles’ Guide to Doctor Visits.

So, what do you, my fellow Opiophiles think?

Learn the system?
Know the system?
Beat the system?

[SpecialGuy69]

Yeah, lev- I think it's a good idea- you see a lot of threads about "my PM doc visit is coming up". I've started one myself, and I think you posted some good advice in it before the crash. A lot of people, like me, are in PM, but not getting adequately (sp?) medicated, or not getting their first choice meds. So if you can help these people, your doing more good than harm. Go for it.

[aj11]

yeah do it. there are some ideas on here like putting blood in your urine to fake a kidney stone, and dressing nice and shit, but hearing what someone in the field of substance abuse has to say about it would be great. you seem like a very informed opi with lots of "street" and research. If you don't do it on a thread please pm ;your thoughts to me. I would love to beat the system. I had to do 4 years in "corrections" so I am not all to fond of the system.

[nick]

Great line man,I think we should all have it tattood on our foreheads

[ZodiacKiller]

I say bring it Levity---I'm interested in your story.

I don't think there's any forum rules that would be broken---but, yeah, it might piss some people off. Oh, well. We'll deal with that as it happens.

I myself am not technically a CP sufferer---yet. I have been diagnosed with moderate to severe carpal tunnel syndrome in my right arm, moderate tendonitis in both shoulders, and have a small tear in my right rotator cuff. They want to do surgery---I won't let them because, although minor, it may affect my guitar playing. I can't have that.

My regular doc is a complete bitch who won't prescribe shit....I could barely pry 30 Percs outta her when I had a bad vehicle accident this summer. For my arm issues she gives me fucking Tramadol and Gabapentin.
I need to find a new doc. My Sub doc is alright---he just writes me my script every month, with maybe a question or two on how I'm doing.

So let's see what developes in this thread.....


ZK

[Levity]

Sounds good.
Right now I'm riding the last of a 4mg Xanax bindge, so I'm off to bed.

I'm going to start tomorrow, so look for it in between class, research, and Fial Fantasy XII playing.

This'll be fun.

[Levity]

Sorry for everyone waiting on this, I just scored huge and I'm enjoying some free time before I start this... Look for it over the coming weekend.

[Curio]

just scored huge, eh?
sounds like that ol' system is still working!
looking forward to the print version arriving on the stand this weekend!!!:D

[CUBErt]

Definitely looking forward to this. Although I probably couldn't apply it to myself as I wouldn't be able to get past the "cut your hair" part ;)

[AWOL]

Definitely looking forward to this. Although I probably couldn't apply it to myself as I wouldn't be able to get past the "cut your hair" part ;)

Too true. When I go to the docs I always dress very well and make sure I'm clean shaven and smellin good. It's funny, I never get asked for my id when making sometimes rediculously large purchases on credit when I'm dressed well either. Pisses me off pretty good. However roll around Sun and I get back from ridding my dirtbike in the dunes or whatever, and I get asked for id for a $5 sandwich at a restaurant called "scone cutter" Never fails.

[CUBErt]

^ Hahahah yea i hear you. If i cut my hair I'll get carded for anything, as I look like a 12 year old. In fact I strategically time my haircuts at a time that I haven't shaven in a while in case the person fucks up and gives me a bowl cut that transform me back to the 5th grade. Once I establish that the haircut is alright then I go ahead and shave

[nick]

Definitely looking forward to this. Although I probably couldn't apply it to myself as I wouldn't be able to get past the "cut your hair" part ;)
You hippy Cubert!Peace Man.

[CUBErt]

A bowl cut is never a good thing. Glad to know you take precautionary meassures, just in case....

Thanks for the funny visual, Cubie.

And Lev, I"m w/ dear CT... I wanna read it, too!

No problem:p . I actually have a funny pic on the computer of me in 10th grade with hair kinda like that, but im too paranoid to post pics of myself

[Sumocat]

Hell Yes! That guide would be a fantastic idea. I'll even put it into a PDF for everyone.

-Sumo

[bronyraur]

the guide would be would be a valuable resource--go for it.

[Chemical_Boy]

Goddam all you fakers! Always screwing it up for CP patients. You all are going to burn in hell!!! I wish you knew what it felt like to blah blah blahhhhh

blahh blahh

blah. . . . .. . . :p

I will be looking forward to your guide!! Sounds like a good idea to me.

[Opiyum]

I say send it out via PM per request only. I think it would be better for it not to go public. IT is privilaged information in every way.
Plus the CP's...Gotta think about those CP's.
ANd BTW this is my request for the suggestion I just made should you choose to follow it.

I just last night finished a week long binge of IV H and Dilaudid with some restoril tossed in and some nuggets for dessert. This morning I woke up at six to discover my bed had turned into a Jacuzzi. Immediatley I thought "I always wanted a jacuzzi but not in my bed.." so i quickly reached for the suboxone/temaz bottle and slipped my savior under my tongue.
I tell you this because I'd rather perform month long binges than these week long ones Ive been doing for the last six months or so. It's pussy shit.
Pussy shit.

[flipside]

Well Lev. if you can put down your supplly long enough to work at it J/K, :D Go for it!

[SpecialGuy69]

Well, whats up, Levity? Still waiting for your first installment... About opy's idea to do it by PM- I think you might want to leave the very specific things for PM only, but the general stuff could be posted. Like each post could have a supplimental PM for those subscribed which would go into greater detail/specifics. The way I'm suggesting would be extra work, but it would keep random dummies from screwing it up for all of us- like if there's a specific complaint/phrase to get OC's and you post it, next week my doc has already heard it 3 times, that wouldn't be cool. But I'm all for the idea in whatever form it needs to be in. Members only?

[greenfox]

Learn the system.
Know the system.
Beat the system.


I consider myself an learned expert at manipulating people. I have BS in Psychology with an emphasis on Research, MA in Experimental Psychology with an emphasis on Clinical/Drug Abuse and Counseling, first-year PhD candidate in Psychology with possible PharmD accreditation, five year program. I'm also a licensed Alcohol and Drug Counselor in Alabama and Illinois, pending approval of my supervisor, who is a class-A whore, but knows I do my job better than she does hers.

In other words, I've learned the system.

I've been an prescribed opiate user six the age of sixteen, and recreational abuser since the age of nineteen. I've been in and out of hospitals since I was sixteen and have over fifty surgeries. I've seen orthopedists, neurologists, cardiologists, psychiatrists, neurosurgeons, and any other ologist, M.D. you can imagine, not to mention herbalists, holistic healers, accupuncturists, and a mottly of other medicos. I’m regularly treated by ERs, GPs, and Pain Management doctors. Both my mother, father, and grandmother are all treated for different intractable pain purposes

So, I know the system.

Lastly, I’ve walked into an ER with nothing really wrong with me, had Hydromorphone shot in my vein and walked out with a script for a bottle of 30 K-4s and hard to get referals for the hospital's own Pain Management clinic. I’ve had doctors fall over themselves to give me Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, Morphine, Hydromorphone, Demerol, and benzos like I was their dying mother asking for a hug. It doesn’t work every time, but my system can and often does have me stocked with enough opiates, barbiturates, and benzodiazepines to keep me and three friends high on our “dope days,” Tuesdays, Fridays, and Saturdays, without only seldom having to resort to illegally purchased or stolen pills.

I can beat the system.

So, before I start drafting “Levity’s How-To Guide For Getting the Drugs You Want,” first I want to know is there an interest, and secondly, would such an instructive guide be outside or pushing the limits of forum rules. I also want to make sure it won’t piss everyone off, since I know some of us here (myself included) are chronic pain suffers and drug seeking assholes (myself included) make it harder for to get scripted. I also want to make it clear I’m not trying to be an egotistical asshat (even though I am), and I want this to be a group effort. A sort of Opiophiles’ Guide to Doctor Visits.

So, what do you, my fellow Opiophiles think?

Learn the system?
Know the system?
Beat the system?


TEACH us the ways. You teach me that and my GOOD friend SWIMer will teach you how to grow dope. Word has it his is the best in OHIO.... no shit whatsoever.

[jkis]

I'm really looking forward to this Lev. I'll gladly spend any time needed to try some things out with some doctors. Right now I just haven't tried considering I don't know what to tell them and don't wanna appear like an idiot, welldressed or not. But I def need to find a few doctors considering my habit has now grown to $500+/day, I know, crazy right. So please, post away, or PM it out, or however you wanna do it...Just please enlighten us all. Thanks in advance

[Opiyum]

Opi, why did your bed turn into a "jacuzzi?" Sorry, I'm obviously very dense... perspiration? urine? what the hell was it? (That really makes me curious. Sorry too for being dim... in case everyone else understands.)

And PM idea is good, except it may kill the site w/PM volume overload. Best ask mr bi11ster, first.

Lev has not weighed back in either. Hmmmm.

And Cubie, put that "bowl cut" on your avatar... voila, Prince Valiant! (Hey and did you study well as Nick advised?:D )


Sweat baby...it was sweat...lot's of it. I had slept may way from comfortably numb to a few too many steps into withdrawal. Fortunately my pill bottles are within arms reach.

[kyuss]

Go for it Lev.
Then we can
announce stage 4:
Fuck The System :D

[Levity]

Go for it Lev.
Then we can
announce stage 4:
Fuck The System :D

I am currently writing this up, doing research into how scripts for, ect...
Really busy though.
Look for it soon.

[kyuss]

I am currently writing this up, doing research into how scripts for, ect...
Really busy though.
Look for it soon.

excellent
here's some points
in case yer out

[Levity]

excellent
here's some points
in case yer out

I like you.
I like points.

I do, however, like this Morphine IR buzz much more.
I just did 45mg, browned, and holy shit if buttsex felt this good I'd be gayer than a San Fransico Pride Parade.

[AWOL]

I like you.
I like points.

I do, however, like this Morphine IR buzz much more.
I just did 45mg, browned, and holy shit if buttsex felt this good I'd be gayer than a San Fransico Pride Parade.

OMG Lev, you're fuckin hillarious. I hope your partner was clean!

[Levity]

OMG Lev, you're fuckin hillarious. I hope your partner was clean!

I try.
But seriously, as uncomfortable as I was fucking my own ass with a turkey baster, the buzz was really worth it.

[greenfox]

I try.
But seriously, as uncomfortable as I was fucking my own ass with a turkey baster, the buzz was really worth it.

Wow. I'm in awe. Some heros are too rare to die.

[youwonhundred]

i totally dig your idea. lev. for real though, you definitely wanna keep that on a need to know basis (not that we dont all need to know, but you know what i mean)

[Kazor]

LEVITY
Can i be your friend too?:o

[defenestrate]

good stuff. i'd love to see whatever you have to say on the subject, levity, and both for offering to help some folks out and the humor, i'm going to have to give you some rep points if i haven't too recently anyway..

[Pointy]

Where is the system?

[chemboy7]

Where is the system?

There is no system; when dealing with doctors how you manipulate them is going to depend on the doctor. What would be the right thing to do with one might be the wrong thing to try with another.

[alowishus]

There is no system; when dealing with doctors how you manipulate them is going to depend on the doctor. What would be the right thing to do with one might be the wrong thing to try with another.

It seems to me that Lev is doing the manipulating.... on us.... hear me out, when he 1st got here (I think it was him) he was writing a paper or something (or book maybe) and wanted to get junkie reactions to things, ask questions, and stuff like such, then a series of provocative open ended posts that garner many replies w/ little from him about the original post.

I don't think ill of Lev or am I flaming him, just have noticed a pattern, I got a degree in psy too, and wondered if anyone else had?

Playing head games w/ junkies....:rolleyes:

[chemboy7]

I think your thinking of Karmacoma there Alow. Either way, as soon as Lev post the precise way to walk into any doctor's office and walk out with a script for whatever you want I'll post the map to the fountin of youth... they both exist in the same realm. There is no step by step, what to do, when it comes to getting shit from doctors; like I said it's all going to depend on your doctor. I'm actually quite interested in what he's gonna come up with though, should make for a good read if nothing else.

[SpecialGuy69]

It seems to me that Lev is doing the manipulating.... on us.... hear me out, when he 1st got here (I think it was him) he was writing a paper or something (or book maybe) and wanted to get junkie reactions to things, ask questions, and stuff like such, then a series of provocative open ended posts that garner many replies w/ little from him about the original post.

I don't think ill of Lev or am I flaming him, just have noticed a pattern, I got a degree in psy too, and wondered if anyone else had?

Playing head games w/ junkies....:rolleyes:Interesting, alowish... I hadn't thought about it that way. What's up, lev? Are we your guinea pigs?

I really don't buy it, but I dont see anything wrong with asking.

Levity is cool by me, but I am a little disappointed by this thread not coming to fruition.

[alowishus]

I think your thinking of Karmacoma there Alow. Either way, as soon as Lev post the precise way to walk into any doctor's office and walk out with a script for whatever you want I'll post the map to the fountin of youth... they both exist in the same realm. There is no step by step, what to do, when it comes to getting shit from doctors; like I said it's all going to depend on your doctor. I'm actually quite interested in what he's gonna come up with though, should make for a good read if nothing else.


Yeah that's who it was, forgot about him, well kind'a.... He still around?
Wonder how the book/paper went?

tm420tm I got nothing bad to say about Lev, he seems a bright, cheeky fellow:D :p, it was just the carrot in front of the mule type thing; "Hey I got a 100% fool proof way to get the best drugs every time any time, and I'll tell you how......later" and everyone posts, goes ape shit, pros and cons, yeah's and nay's...5 pages later we're still waiting for the post from Lev to inlighten us, and he's got all the mind fodder he wanted.
I'm not rainman but I see patterens in things, could just be paranoia:D .......... yea most likely!!!

I mean I can see it's place (from a psy standpoint) so like I said many times, and w/ what I started w/; I'm not calling him out.

[Levity]

Update and Clarification:

As most of you've seen, I haven't been on much lately. While I'm not going to go into personal stuff, I'm preparing for a major surgery on 12.8, the end of my class terms (both as a teacher and a student), and trying to move my fiance's stuff out of my apartment. This is in addition to dealing with the related depression (and drinking) that comes with everything above.

Not easy.

I am working on a comprehensive "Drug-Seekers Guide," as I've decided to entitle it. It is not a how-to for Johnny Trackmarks or Sally Recreational User. It is meant to be used for people with chronic, intractable pain or some way to fake it, but fake it very well. This is not a map to the magic land of Pilldom, for those people looking for that.

Lastly, my posts and membership on this board are not for some research paper, thesis, book, or experiment (to begin, it woud be incredibly unethical and untentable for me to even consider using this board as a source). Yes, I do get a snapshot into the minds of drug users, but to tell you the truth I get enough of that shit at work. I am a member here because I like opiates, I like the opiate scene, and I like most of the members here. I joined the board after months of lurking and careful consideration. If you look at my first introductory post (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=2611&highlight=levity) I mention nothing about using you guys for a book or anythig like that; I was instead looking for better ways to expand my collection and buzz.

I promise - promise - that the How-To Beat the System will be up by Friday at the latest. As I said, I've just been very busy. Rest assured, the carrot is coming, I just need to finish growing it.

Until then, be patient or I'll beat you with the stick.

Much love.

[Curio]

threatened with beatings now, lol...

Hope evertything is working out for you; take care lev!

[hero 1]

Update and Clarification:

Until then, be patient or I'll beat you with the stick.

Much love.


can I get beat with the stick and be patient
:rolleyes:

[Inspektahdek]

If you go to google groups theres a similar how to or FAQ called Phreex (from bluelight in years ago) called TAOS: The art of scripting. HE made 2 versions and made version 2 which was very detailed and descriptive but only releasd that one to a select few. The TAOS v1 is an interesting and somewhat helpful read though.


I've had similar experiences with fooling doctors and I'm actually quite good at it as well and have been doing it with ease for maybe 2 years and have had great success. There's alot of psychological work that levity has mentioned in persuasion or learning how the doctors mindset is on various things involved in his decisions of prescribing. I myself even with my legitimate reason to be scribed narcs (only this year but before did it without having my disc problem defined and proved with MRI) but there was a time where I didnt have proof and was still scamming.

IF anyone has any interest I can make a similar FAQ like Levity (although his will probably be more detailed and useful) with another perspective on the same subject.

Just right a reply and let me know and I can make a very descriptive guide in a couple of days.

[jkis]

If you go to google groups theres a similar how to or FAQ called Phreex (from bluelight in years ago) called TAOS: The art of scripting. HE made 2 versions and made version 2 which was very detailed and descriptive but only releasd that one to a select few. The TAOS v1 is an interesting and somewhat helpful read though.


I've had similar experiences with fooling doctors and I'm actually quite good at it as well and have been doing it with ease for maybe 2 years and have had great success. There's alot of psychological work that levity has mentioned in persuasion or learning how the doctors mindset is on various things involved in his decisions of prescribing. I myself even with my legitimate reason to be scribed narcs (only this year but before did it without having my disc problem defined and proved with MRI) but there was a time where I didnt have proof and was still scamming.

IF anyone has any interest I can make a similar FAQ like Levity (although his will probably be more detailed and useful) with another perspective on the same subject.

Just right a reply and let me know and I can make a very descriptive guide in a couple of days.


Definitely go for it. Two guides would never be a bad thing...One extra could only give us some more info. I'm eagerly anticipating both of the guides, and I appreciate that you are willing to put together all of your knowledge to enlighten us. So post away, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would appreciate it.

[SpecialGuy69]

Remember- we aren't the only people who read this board. I can think of at least 2 people on here who aren't what they seem (not Levity, he's cool by me). There are surely many more who just stop by to see what's going on. Just like if you post a pod source url and 24 hours later they are sold out, if you post detailed directions about drug-seeking, especially specific phrases/motions/things like that, in-the-know docs will be wise to it before long.

I just don't want to see someone thrown out of PM because their doc reads the how-to-script post and realizes "hey that's exactly what patient x did". I know that's unlikely, but remember, PM docs are always on the lookout for drug seekers. So, a drug seeker's guide would be valuable info for them. I'm not a pain faker, but I still read a lot of literature written for doctors on how to spot drug-seeking patients before I started PM (so I didn't waste a lot of time on bullshit scripts waiting to get moved up to what I really need).

[Inspektahdek]

fair enough, I will be proposing this guide starting next week and if the consensus is just, I will provide via PM

hows your guide coming along levity?

[Inspektahdek]

Definitely go for it. Two guides would never be a bad thing...One extra could only give us some more info. I'm eagerly anticipating both of the guides, and I appreciate that you are willing to put together all of your knowledge to enlighten us. So post away, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would appreciate it.


I will begin writing this guide this evening and will probably take a few days. Should I make this public or exclusively PM? MODS, I'm leaving this decision to you all~~~

[Opiyum]

All this talk and i aint learned one thing yet. Whats the deal?
Your not pulling one of those classic junky moves....You know the one where they say they are gonna do something and they dont. Not to say only junkys do that but we are definately in the higher percentile when it comes to procrastina.....illl finish this later

[Inspektahdek]

no of course not (not being sarcastic) I work 10-12 hour days and have a girlfriend so I'm usually pretty tied up but I assure there will be evidence of this project in it's entirety within the next few days. Unless you were referring to levity (whos paperwork will prob be better than my info) I don't know where he stands at the moment, haven't seen him on the board since this post.


anyways, I do keep my promise of this~

[robojunkie]

The only 99.9% foolproof ways to always get written for is to 1) become a doctor and 2) "marry" (not legally, keep the different names) another doctor (has to be an opiophile of course, or very fucking understanding), diagnose each other with the appropriate afflictions and initiate treatment! Sorry I couldn't resit, there is no foolproof way to guarantee powerful CII's worth the time other than getting some serious cancer or some shit and even then it seems like the CP people get screwed by the MDs. Guess cancer's OK for them since they'll only have to write a few times. Yeah it's late.

[HistoryofMadness]

just do the work and put that shit on the board, man, 'cause i'm sure we'd all like to learn a little somfin!


shit mayne, just let 'er rip!

[Inspektahdek]

ahh been busy all this week but started writing this doc tonight and have a page done so far

Is levity still even doing his? I'd really like to see his knowledge

[acey]

hey Instpehktah, I'd be interested in your guide as well. Everybody has they're own proven methods. Let Met Know.
I'v learked and read here quite a bit but this is my actual first post!
thanks
ACEY

[acey]

If you go to google groups theres a similar how to or FAQ called Phreex (from bluelight in years ago) called TAOS: The art of scripting. HE made 2 versions and made version 2 which was very detailed and descriptive but only releasd that one to a select few. The TAOS v1 is an interesting and somewhat helpful read though.


I've had similar experiences with fooling doctors and I'm actually quite good at it as well and have been doing it with ease for maybe 2 years and have had great success. There's alot of psychological work that levity has mentioned in persuasion or learning how the doctors mindset is on various things involved in his decisions of prescribing. I myself even with my legitimate reason to be scribed narcs (only this year but before did it without having my disc problem defined and proved with MRI) but there was a time where I didnt have proof and was still scamming.

IF anyone has any interest I can make a similar FAQ like Levity (although his will probably be more detailed and useful) with another perspective on the same subject.

Just right a reply and let me know and I can make a very descriptive guide in a couple of days.

Thanks for the infor and this is what I speak of!!

[nick]

I hope Levity's all right.I miss him.

[aj11]

I wonder where levity went
here levity levity
here levity levity levity
????????????????????????????//
he was smart and a smart ass I miss him

[nick]

Levity is in marriage guidence councilling.The very naughty boy.Levity bro,if you're lurking in cyberspace,you are missed.

[OxyContinuously]

I know this response is a little late, but in answer to your question, Fuck yeah, that's a good idea Levity. Bring it.

[tptptp]

He's full of shit I say, there is no fool proof way but there are always good tips strategies etc. but putting together a worthy document on it would prove very difficult.

[Curio]

... have a girlfriend so I'm usually pretty tied up anyways, I do keep my promise of this~

relationships...tied up...
silence is golden duct tape is silver....
huh huh

[Inspektahdek]

He's full of shit I say, there is no fool proof way but there are always good tips strategies etc. but putting together a worthy document on it would prove very difficult.

I don't know if you're referring to levity or myself but I said that I would provide a guide, emphasis on guide because it will be full of strategies and tips that I've used that have given me the upper hand or success on pseudo manipulation. Levity's guide in my opinion will be better than mine but I'm going to provide kind of another perspective or alternative which would mesh together with his to provide even more measures.

BTW everyone, the guide will be completed before the weekend is over. :drink::chillpill

[AWOL]

For newbs and Levity's woman, Levity isn't posting on the site anymore.

[alowishus]

For newbs and Levity's woman, Levity isn't posting on the site anymore.

No?

Squezzeeeeee those balls!!!! :sandm:

Too bad, but I can believe it.
I came clean to my girl about 5-6 months ago, boy did I feel better.
Come on lev you can sneak back in one and a while, inless she put parent locks on the AOL account.:o LOL

[tptptp]

I don't know if you're referring to levity or myself but I said that I would provide a guide, emphasis on guide because it will be full of strategies and tips that I've used that have given me the upper hand or success on pseudo manipulation. Levity's guide in my opinion will be better than mine but I'm going to provide kind of another perspective or alternative which would mesh together with his to provide even more measures.

BTW everyone, the guide will be completed before the weekend is over. :drink::chillpill

Was referring to levity

[kyuss]

Levity is in marriage guidence councilling.The very naughty boy.Levity bro,if you're lurking in cyberspace,you are missed.


^
what he said :(

[Inspektahdek]

OK my promise of a weekend project failed but I've still had the project guide in mind and some of it is finished but work and school has been sort of insane lately so its taking me longer than I have imagined. On the plus side, keep in mind this guide will be more in depth so the longer time for me to make it , in essence it will be greater and more detailed.

I haven't forgotten you guys, just give me more time... :D

[insanesteveo]

good to hear inspektah. ive been waiting on both these guides just for some good reading. i doubt i will have the balls to follow though with any of this unless im going in for a somewhat legit reason.

but i will be looking forward to reading this when you get done, if you do it by pm, count me in.

[HistoryofMadness]

I thought levity was out with surgery (from post above)...

did he really get busted and have to stop posting?

man this place actually works when you're clean, trying to kick, strung out... it works on all levels... people shouldn't project their or their signigicant other's problems onto this site, because its not like we're encouraging each other to do drugs

in fact, anytime people have asked for advice, its almost an avalanches of 'no' 'don't do it' take it easy' 'go slow' etc etc...

oh well

[satori]

1) If your back hurts you also have shooting pain down your legs

2) You cant get a good nights rest because the pain is so intense it keeps you up at night.

3) Dress nice but look tired \ worn out (lack of sleep, dont come straight out and say its because of the pain. Say "im really didnt get much sleep last night" they will ask why and youll say "because of X pain").

4) Act like you would around royality. Dont say anything contriversial and dont bring up medication doses unless there trying to perscribe 2.5 mg (hydro or oxy).

5) Check and make sure that there is nothing "wrong" because it feels like there is. Ask questions. What could it be? What could cause this much pain? Is it normal to feel sick to the stomach and throw up because of a X injury.

6) Dont bring up drugs unless they are walking out the door and then act like it is not big deal at all. Act like you would when you ask for tylenol or advil. Look them in there eyes and dont act like you have something to hide (easier said then done).

I have had to not ask one time i went in. THe doctor as obviously anti pain medication and i didnt want to push him because i knew i might need the Urgent care some time in the future.

[satori]

I thought levity was out with surgery (from post above)...

did he really get busted and have to stop posting?

man this place actually works when you're clean, trying to kick, strung out... it works on all levels... people shouldn't project their or their signigicant other's problems onto this site, because its not like we're encouraging each other to do drugs

in fact, anytime people have asked for advice, its almost an avalanches of 'no' 'don't do it' take it easy' 'go slow' etc etc...

oh well

I acualy do better when im not on this site. When im tryingto stop i actualy avoid opiophile at all costs. When i read about something i have a tendancy to.... obsess.

[Ickyuck]

I'm so interested. Even with my legit fucky pain I seem to always strike out and walk out with nothing but a physical therapy script. Lately I've got this nerve thing with my right hand where when I drive my middle finger goes numb and painfully tingly every time I shift, or reach for the radio driving. Then during the day I get either a burning pain or it feels like I cut cut on my outer forearm. After looking it up, I found that the radial nerve is kinda exactly where my problem lies. Its not a constant pain, but problematic enough to hinder and prevent certain arm/finger movements. I was thinking of going to the walk in clinic (they have an xray onsite) next week about it, not for pills but just so they can do anything. Should I even bother getting pills?

edt: Wait his last post was a month ago.

[AWOL]

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=4289 <--- who what where

[devilsdrug]

so what i missed it where lev left from spousal abuse or did he just really have a bs in bs, if the former this is happenin a lot lately

[Ickyuck]

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=4289 <--- who what where

Crikey ok. Yikes. Sounds fishy, who knows. Heh... "a bs in bs".

[Inspektahdek]

god damn gentleman and ladies, I am very sorry for my lack of input or production on my promise as of late, it almost makes me feel guilty. I have the lumbar disc fusion on L4-S1 and L5-S1 in January so I've been busy going in and out of the hospital seeing the surgeon and staying heavily opiated (have a penetration of a nerve as well, oh what fun kids!) so that's my reason for lack of representation of my promise. However, I still do have this in mind and this guide I have been writing in succession and it will be completed at some point, however slowly do to my life and the arduous tasks therein. However, don't think of me as a junky without a promise but a junky with a goal.


Much respect fellow opiophiles,



Inspektahdek

[covv799ss]

I like you.
I like points.

I do, however, like this Morphine IR buzz much more.
I just did 45mg, browned, and holy shit if buttsex felt this good I'd be gayer than a San Fransico Pride Parade.

But on here:

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=4289

Note, when I say "me," I really mean SWIM.

So yesterday I went to see my sweet connection. He had some K4s, those beautiful little Dilaudid pills. Hydromorphone is my favorite hospital narcotic (by favorite I mean the only readily IVable; I'm luckily allergic to Demerol, Codine, and Morphine).

*Scratches chin*

[applesauce]

holy shit if buttsex felt this good I'd be gayer than a San Fransico Pride Parade.

Dude I haven't laughed that hard in a good while, thank you. I know this is late, possibly even posthumous, but props to you for the disturbing analogy. :)

[Curio]

But on here:

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=4289



*Scratches chin*
FYI:
levity said it wasn't a *true allergy*
to MS...apparently it was a psychedelic experience for him to ingest Morphine, in whatever form...
another thread somewhere that I don't recall atm...

'course he also said he was a master at b.s. that's why he was doing the "proposal" thing anyway...