Heroin cut with what this month?

[blackdog]

OK we heard about the clenbuteral and the niacin recently oh what a clever bunch these batchmakers are. however now there just perfecting the mix on h with a new medicinal type of stretch called doral/dorel sound familiar candy? I've tryed a little to reference it it seem's to be a type of sleep potion. it get's my eyes feeling like the lids are magnets trying to open lift them off of steel eyeballs. screwy ain't it. i mean it ain't no normal type of dope nod. amateurs are easily fooled by this stuff. in the past people's was impressed with the fat bag's, well I'll tell ya what I'll take a skinny little bag of lesscut h, then a stepped on with who knows what used fer cut later peep's
peace/love the dogg

[chucky]

Herion is cut with everthing from Niacin to acid scraped off car batteries and sometimes worse stuff, so beware. It helps if you can find a dealer or two with good poduct and who is somewhat reliable.If you find a good one try to make it a mutual relationship in other words don't rip him off and he won't rip you off...hopefully. Buying off of street corners is a risky game between getting ripped off , bad dope,cops and other shity things that go along with being a junky but then again, when in need, you gotsta feed!:cool:

[Peripat]

Bear in mind, guys, that cutting agents will vary due to region. I understand that most of the H on the east coast of the USA (well, at least in the north-east corner, anyway) is the white powdery stuff that we also get down here Down Under - that can be cut with pretty much anything white (and in fact, I know of a scammer or two in Fortitude Valley, Brisbane, who'll just crush up acetamiophen pills and sell to the unwary!)
On the U.S. west coast, however, you're usually going to encounter that stuff known as "black tar" which will of course open up a whole new sphere of adulterants. I'll shut my mouth at this point because I didn't use at all whilst in the western United States (and we have plenty on this forum who do, or have.)

[22s]

I had some pretty pure stuff yesterday from a buddies plug, it was brow chunky and really potent...not cut at all. But I seen someone cut some H with multivitamin, you could taste in the garbage. Sucks when you get some BS.

[jacky]

caffeine and strychnnine are very common cuts, actually used in the intitial production. strychnine was used as a stimulant and medicine in the 1800 and early 1900,s up until the late 1940,s, and still finds its way into heroin today......................heroin and most opiates are white, brown chunky heroin is full of cuts, otherwise it would be pure to off white, it is cut with a variety of milk sugars and various mixes. if heroin wasnt cut many people wouldnt know what to do with it, there would be alot of people overdosing out of those who are used to tar heroin.

[candy]

I always tried to stick with the same guy and as someone said, never screwed him on cash. Here on the west coast we do have the black tar and it can be cut with just about anything. It was not long ago that a great deal of the dope we were getting in was causing serious strep type of infections. So, we are not only dealing with the cut but with the other bugs in the dope. Some of the junkies were coming in hours after their last injection and were in total sepsis. Meaning they had bacteria searing around in the blood shutting down all the major organs.

Truth is we don't know where the stuff comes from or what it is cut with or the manner in which it is processed. I doubt the guys/gals processing heroin are concerned with personal hygiene. I would say there is no cute little sign hanging in the bathroom reminding them to wash their hands.

Because we are injecting, it is hard if not impossible to detect what the dope is cut with. We are all taking a risk and the one thing I do not recommend is IM injections or IntraMuscular. It will almost always lead to an abscess. Better to miss a shot than to go IM.
I see those ugly abscesses all the time and some of these junkies literally stink from the infection coming off of them. I can say I have never had an abscess. Just some really sore limbs from missed shots.

[jacky]

I have met people in california who suffered serious muscle and tissue damage from shooting this strep infected H , one guy lost most of his left butt muscle.....most of the people I talked to that had this infection where muscle poppers.............I have gotten shoe polish in my heroin before, this seems to not actually cook into the water solution when cooking and sticks like a rubbery shellac on the spoon....I have found a few pubic hairs in my dope before as well.

[chucky]

I have heard and read stories of botulism in the dope in california, some died from this, others got extremely ill. That is a why this is a dangerous game and always will be as long as it is an illicit market.:cool:

[annuh]

i've only had a few short bouts of H use when i was staying in Orlando.....(so i'm about the farthest thing from being a seasoned H user - there's none available where i currently live)
during that time i ended up with a few bags of brown (snorted, not shot, btw) that had a really strong (and disgusting) taste/smell, that i could only associate with that of ant poison...(it was really different than the good dirty taste all that i had had before)
any clue as to what this could have been???

[givemesomefuckingsmack]

ohh if i was only in florida, california for the H snorter sucks ass!!!!! Ive been opiate free for like 6 days now, due to no connections out in southern cali and i have been sicker than a dog. On a side note that made me happy we played the knitting factory in hollywood and i met trishelle from the real world las vegas, she bought me a drink and told me my band was awsome. So that helped some of the sting from w/d

[Ogre]

I live in western Va and the tar here is cut with shoe polish too. Yeah there's tar here to now. Although not alot. It's been powder mostly for all the six years I've been strung here. But tar is starting to creep in now. I prefer powder most of the time because by the time the tar gets all the way out here it's cut all to hell.

[bluesail1]

Ogre, you see tar on the east coast? I'm suprised at that! It's very hard to get here in any real quantity. I hate that stuff. (Maybe I never had a good batch?) I was in El Paso in the mid eighties and that crap would give me needles and pins on top of needles and pins...causing me to scratch my upper epidermis into little flakes that frosted my shoes. And I wasn't high either. (Nor now). I'll tell you though here in NYC the colors are mostly beige to brown for what is called "P". P pr P-Funk is the term for the $2or $3 dollar bags that began to replace "scramble" in harlem. Scramble came in two sizes: "Balloon Hands" or "Endocarditis" Actually, the sizes were "spoons" and half spoons. A spoon being about two grams of quinine and 30 mgs of H. Anyway, the $10 bags here are almost never white or even off-white. That's because of the source, not the cut. South American, Turkish and some Afghan heroin are always colored due to base prep. Triangle dope from the Far East (East of Pakistan) is usually quite white and scrumptious to boot. The real Chinese Rocks really can be "lived on" as Johnny Thunders sang to us once upon anon. The brown hee is favored by shooters as sniffers hate it. I personally believe there are only two types of dope regardless of 'mode d'emploi' "good" an d "bullshit". But people insist that this is shooters dope and this is for sniffers. If it's good heroin you can shove it up your ass and you'll like it. But if you need that "rush" you'll prefer morphine contamination with the acetyline wash for smell.

Since late summer last, all the dope has been garbage mostly. Interestingly however, there were two or three related brands that were super-spectacular for many months continuious. I mean 'cut through 60 mgs of metahadone and be fucked up out of your mind on $10 super-spectatcular' Weird right? Usually with minor variations, the quality was basically homoginized through the city untill about late 2003. Now if the soldiers in Afganistan could get it together, they could be rich, and people like us could be satisfied.

[blackdog]

chucky cmon haha oh man you gave me the giggles with the one about them scraping the acid off the tops off car batteries lol hehehehehehee that is so good i mean did you ever see anyone do that or say they saw someone do that .it's just pure folklore i mean i've gotten bags that tasted like thats what they might of done oh yeah sure bro i heard that car batterie one along time ago man things just get better with time .also cuts like brown suger,ratpoison,shoepolish/shellac,amongst many more
oh well thanx fer the giggle no offense what a buisiness were in
peace/love da/dogg

[marblehead]

When I was a kid,about 25 years ago My cousins had this book about Vietnam and in one part they mentioned a place where they would send all the junkies who got hooked in vietnam(it looks bad just turning them loose) They told a story about a guy in there who shot up with what was battery scrapings They said he had blood coming out of every hole in his body. Don't know if its true, but it freaked me out, enough that I still remember it

[blackdog]

hey it wouldn't surprise me i, like a game of post office.that wouldn't surprise me as the possible origin of the batterie story.also i confirmed with a P.R. friend of mind who bags product outta da bronx and told him about this sleepy shit medicine smell and taste and he confirmed that it is a sedative they have been stretching h out with ,called doral i looked it up on the pdr and it a sedative barbiturate i believe , hey some peoples really like da shit those are the same people that don't like coke unless it burns so give em crushed aspirin and as Long as it burns there happy idiots peace/love da dogg

[22s]

The H round here In the Det. usually aint cut with much, the plugs I get are pretty much not cut. I have taken long time to find this good shit, but I have had others that have been cut.....with what I dont know.....no tar round here (rare) from when I learned about the H,,, and stopped getting jipped....I just buy chunks only say grams plus....sometimes balls....and its one big ass chunk, but I been dealing with this cat for a while now....he taxes it somewhat, but it is about as pure as can be no complaints......tolerance is a motherfucker either way ha.....fuck it....

[blahblahblah]

Chicago
Doriden (Glutethimide) < one of the better cuts IMO
Dormin (Diphenhydramine)
Quinine
Lactose
Lidocaine
Procaine
Very occasionally cocaine, I never really believed it and I 'know' some bags have been slightly cut with coke as the rush is noticable, I thought I was imaging things but the latest Microgram confirmed some of my suspicions... http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/mg0405/mg0405.html

analysis of the tan powder (same analytical techniques) indicated a mixture of 72 percent heroin hydrochloride and 7.2 percent cocaine hydrochloride.


The top 4 cuts are what most often pops up in Chicago area and it seems as if Doriden and Dormin are localized to Chicago dope market.