Your Favorite Cigarettes For Use With Opiates

[Narkotikon]

Okay, this is probably going to be a stupid thread, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who smokes. My question is this: does anyone else prefer one brand or cigarette over another when using opiates. I'm not necessarily talking about in general, but do you find that one cigarette tastes better or feel better or whatever when on opies? I used to smoke Marlboro Reds when I first started, but found that they had a nasty chemical taste for me. Then I switched to Camel Filters, which I liked, but couldn't stand the taste. Now, I smoke pretty much regularly Camel Turkish Gold's, which I love because they're a full-flavored cigarette, but much milder tasting. For some reason, I think they make the opie high better. Anyone else?

[SpecialGuy69]

I always smoke parliaments, noddin' or not. When sniffing OC, especially, it seems like it doesn't really kick in as hard until I've had a few drags on a cigarette. Like when I'm high somewhere like a movie theater where I can't smoke, I feel like I'm not gettin my full potential buzz, and I should receive some type of opiate refund.

[chemboy7]

There has been a thread about favorite brands of cigarettes before. I'm a Marlboro man myself (chain-smoke 'em like crazy) but I smoke Luckies when I can get them.

[AWOL]

Marlboro menthols, I only smoke on the weekends but it's getting too cold to now. Love it with my scripts.

[southernbelle]

I quit back in '99, but my favorite was always Virginia Slims menthol lights.....damn, now I'm craving one! :p

[insanesteveo]

oh man, parliaments make me puke, and so does anything menthol. (not literally puke, just cant stand them)

camels are my main choice. its usually a toss up between camel lights and turkish silvers. the turkish ones are awesome. if i REALLY want a buzz, ill pick up the camel wides. soooo good. in fact, i think ill pick up a pack soon. then i need to quit. seriously. im going to this time. i swear.

[Narkotikon]

I quit back in '99, but my favorite was always Virginia Slims menthol lights.....damn, now I'm craving one! :p

Good for you SB! I think quitting smoking has got to be one of the most difficult things. I could never do it. I keep telling myself I'll quit, but it never happens. Without a doubt, I would say that cigarettes are the one drug I wish I had never tried, just because it's such a nasty--but sometimes good--habit. Especially since all the places around here have laws that forbide smoking in ANY public place. I mean, you can't even smoke in bars or clubs here. That's got to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. No offence to anyone who doesn't smoke. I can understand why there is such a law, and I can understand non-smokers not wanting to be around it, but what I can't understand it how is it any different to say that non-smoker's have the right to not be around it, while smokers must sacrifice their rights to smoke? It just seems hypcritical to me. I guess the lesser of two evils.

[insanesteveo]

Good for you SB! I think quitting smoking has got to be one of the most difficult things. I could never do it. I keep telling myself I'll quit, but it never happens. Without a doubt, I would say that cigarettes are the one drug I wish I had never tried, just because it's such a nasty--but sometimes good--habit. Especially since all the places around here have laws that forbide smoking in ANY public place. I mean, you can't even smoke in bars or clubs here. That's got to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. No offence to anyone who doesn't smoke. I can understand why there is such a law, and I can understand non-smokers not wanting to be around it, but what I can't understand it how is it any different to say that non-smoker's have the right to not be around it, while smokers must sacrifice their rights to smoke? It just seems hypcritical to me. I guess the lesser of two evils.

i agree 100% with you nark. around here they JUST put into effect a law that bans smoking in restaurants and lots of other places. they are giving stand alone bars and any place with keno 5 years to change, but fuck! its just soooo stupid. to me its simple, if you dont want to be around smoke, dont go to that place. eventually they will start losing business and have to deal with it or change on their own, then losing business of smokers(maybe). i think it should be up to the businesses.

and this crap about waitresses complaining.... DONT WORK THERE! FUCK! cant anyone just THINK for a second. this whole country is going to shit, getting dumber and dummer and dumerrr.

[nick]

Marlboro,camel anything but fucking menthol.

[Narkotikon]

Marlboro,camel anything but fucking menthol.

You know, I really can't stand menthols either. I used to smoke them sometimes with E (Marlboro Menthol 100's), but I just gag on them. I do like Djarum Black's though sometimes. Mainly for the clove aroma.

[nick]

You know, I really can't stand menthols either. I used to smoke them sometimes with E (Marlboro Menthol 100's), but I just gag on them. I do like Djarum Black's though sometimes. Mainly for the clove aroma.
Seems like you guys have far more choice then over here.Lots of types of the same crap tobacco here.
Fucking anti smoking nazis.soon us smokers will be forced to live in caves in the hills.

[AWOL]

Just curious as to why it's so hard for others to quit? I've heard all the anti-tobacco crap, but I'd like to know from someone who finds it difficult (impossible) to quit, and uses opiates. I have never noticed ANY physical dependence, neither do any of my friends. I mean compared to opiates, the physical dependence thing is near next to non existent. However, I love lighting the cig, holding it in my hand, breathing it in ... something to do. I could see a huge mental addiction potential, but am I just weird or is there actually a physical dependence there? I only smoke 2 or 3 on the weekends now, but I've been to the psych ward a few times and all you have to do there is smoke. I was up at like 1-2 packs a day, once for a month after being released and I've never noticed anything I'd call a physical dependence. Is it just me?

( I know that per the government there is a huge physical addiction to nicotine, compared to heroin … but come on, whoever’s making that statement has obviously never used. And I'm not asking this question insinuating that anyone who can't quit is weak, I'm asking because I honestly want to know if the physical dependence thing is maybe only applicable to some people, and not at all to others. If so that's very very strange, because with opies the physical dependence is there in everyone I've ever known. We all know what withdrawals are like.)

[hero 1]

I love to roll my own when I am opiated its the only thing I taste there are much stronger plus they have a neat way of going out when you go down on a duck.

[nick]

I'd much rather kick fags than junk.Soon time for me to do both-god have mercy on me.

[vaxn8]

I'm almost 100% camel lights now. Once in awhile I like a menthol, i think they're refreshing for a change! I smoke a lot more when I've had a good, high dose of whatever opi i'm doing. I absolutely cannot smoke at all when w/drawing. It makes me gag and puke. I never hear anyone else complain of this, but even if I take a super low dose, cigs make me gag. Anyone else have this, or am i just crazy? If i want to smoke while w/drawing, I have to have a mint in my mouth and have to suck on it, then i can kind of inhale, other wise it's gag n' puke for me!

Also, I don't like the camel turkish, not sure what it is about them, but there is something i don't like. I did smoke Marb reds for a long time, then Marb lights. Now I'm a camel chick, usually lights, sometimes regs.

[Narkotikon]

Just curious as to why it's so hard for others to quit? I've heard all the anti-tobacco crap, but I'd like to know from someone who finds it difficult (impossible) to quit, and uses opiates. I have never noticed ANY physical dependence, neither do any of my friends. I mean compared to opiates, the physical dependence thing is near next to non existent. However, I love lighting the cig, holding it in my hand, breathing it in ... something to do. I could see a huge mental addiction potential, but am I just weird or is there actually a physical dependence there? I only smoke 2 or 3 on the weekends now, but I've been to the psych ward a few times and all you have to do there is smoke. I was up at like 1-2 packs a day, once for a month after being released and I've never noticed anything I'd call a physical dependence. Is it just me?

( I know that per the government there is a huge physical addiction to nicotine, compared to heroin … but come on, whoever’s making that statement has obviously never used. And I'm not asking this question insinuating that anyone who can't quit is weak, I'm asking because I honestly want to know if the physical dependence thing is maybe only applicable to some people, and not at all to others. If so that's very very strange, because with opies the physical dependence is there in everyone I've ever known. We all know what withdrawals are like.)

It's not really the physical w/d for me with nicoteine, it's the anxiety. When I've gone a while without a cigarette, I become an evil high-ridding bitch. Again, I guess it's easier to quit nicoteine because there are replacement therapies available, but then again it's also a mental addiction, like you said. Something to do with your hands, etc. I always smoke when I'm nervous, which calms me down somewhat. It's interesting, because depending on how you smoke (fast or leisurly), nicoteine can have both stimulant and depressant properties. Plus, it's just harder because I've been smoking a pack or more per day for a little over 7 years now.

[nick]

I agree with bells on.Can't smoke when sick.Smoke like a goddam chimney when high.

[SpecialGuy69]

Just curious as to why it's so hard for others to quit? I've heard all the anti-tobacco crap, but I'd like to know from someone who finds it difficult (impossible) to quit, and uses opiates.
Well put. When someone at my work is whining because they are quitting smoking and "I want a cigarette soooo bad I'm just dying" it really pisses me off! Try quitting a 15 year dope habit like nick and see how that feels! About as hard as quitting a pack a day habit, right?

I actually heard someone at my work say that nicotine is more addictive than heroin. I wanted to bite his nose off.

Did I mention I work with idiots?

[AWOL]

It's not really the physical w/d for me with nicoteine, it's the anxiety. When I've gone a while without a cigarette, I become an evil high-ridding bitch. Again, I guess it's easier to quit nicoteine because there are replacement therapies available, but then again it's also a mental addiction, like you said. Something to do with your hands, etc. I always smoke when I'm nervous, which calms me down somewhat. It's interesting, because depending on how you smoke (fast or leisurly), nicoteine can have both stimulant and depressant properties. Plus, it's just harder because I've been smoking a pack or more per day for a little over 7 years now.

I deffinetly agree with you about smoking when nervous. When I'm loosing it smoking will do more for me than my eternal supply of benzos. Don't get me wrong, I love to smoke, it's great! Doubt I'll be quitting any time soon. Gotta do what you gotta do to get by. Anything that keeps me out of involuntary lockdown has already given me more than it will ever take.

[flipside]

Came's for me too. Echo Nick, cannot smoke when ill,,chain smoke when high although my clothes and the floor seem to get as much of the ciggarette if not more than I do. Good thing I keep thos smoke detector batteries fresh. Probably would be safer to just quit but that would make too much sense wouldn't it?

[AWOL]

Well put. When someone at my work is whining because they are quitting smoking and "I want a cigarette soooo bad I'm just dying" it really pisses me off! Try quitting a 15 year dope habit like nick and see how that feels! About as hard as quitting a pack a day habit, right?

I actually heard someone at my work say that nicotine is more addictive than heroin. I wanted to bite his nose off.

Did I mention I work with idiots?

LOL, yeah I've heard that "harder to quit than heroin" line at work before too when my boss is whinning to everyone about quitting. I just wanted to smack him upside the head and tell him to shoot up once and then make that statment. My boss has been quitting for the last 3 years and he's always telling me how shitty he feels because of the withdrawl, I just put my headphones on ... not like you can bring up how hard it really is to drop smack.

[Levity]

I only smoke when I drink heavily (which is rare... I'll seldom go past that first glass of wine or martini), but when the need grabs me, I enjoy Camel Turkish Silver, Kool (if I'm in the ghetto), or Marlboro Blue Shorts.

[SpecialGuy69]

dv- what the fuck is your avatar? its freaking me out!

[AWOL]

dv- what the fuck is your avatar? its freaking me out!

haha, well I guess that's good because people will recognise me now that I'm being social :p

Serriously though, I chose that avatar because that's how I feel when the weekend roles around and I don't have any supplies.

[SpecialGuy69]

I feel ya about running out of gear, but what the fuck is it? do you know?

I mean I know it's a llama, but it appears to have a human tongue and dog teeth. I'd like to have that thing on a leash when I go to the hood to cop. I thought it was something you photoshopped- I guess it's just a clipart avatar? good choice tho

btw what the hell is this thread about? cigarettes? llamas?

[vaxn8]

Seems like you guys have far more choice then over here.Lots of types of the same crap tobacco here.
Fucking anti smoking nazis.soon us smokers will be forced to live in caves in the hills.

Ha! That's hysterical! When i was in ireland & england, i thought y'all had the coolest smokes!

I'd much rather kick fags than junk.Soon time for me to do both-god have mercy on me.

Only an englishman could say this and get away with it!

I agree with bells on.Can't smoke when sick.Smoke like a goddam chimney when high.

Thank you! I always thought i was just weird. With everything people complain about with w/drawal, I never see this, and it is one of the worst parts for me!

Came's for me too. Echo Nick, cannot smoke when ill,,chain smoke when high although my clothes and the floor seem to get as much of the ciggarette if not more than I do. Good thing I keep thos smoke detector batteries fresh. Probably would be safer to just quit but that would make too much sense wouldn't it?

I knew there was a reason you were cool! Camels are the best! And can't smoke when sick too! Glad I'm not the freak i was starting to think i was, or at least not for this reason!

but what the fuck is it? do you know?
I mean I know it's a llama, but it appears to have a human tongue and dog teeth.

Isn't that an ostrich? That's what i thought it was. If definitely had some dental work done by photoshop, but i don't think it's a llama. Either that or I'm picturing the wrong animal for llama!

[cori]

i myself am a malrbro man. but while intoxicated i always seem to crave the menthal cigs. i used to smoke the camel menthal lights, but the menthal get to me when smokin them on a regular basis.

[Paregoric Kid]

camel turkish gold, silver, and rose, roll your own cigs, cigars of all kinds, coca cigarettes. flavored tobacco is alright once in a while too. flavored filters are cool. weed. lol

[antony]

Parliment Lights. They're better than Marlboros, and fantastic with coke. It doesn't get much easier at a bar bathroom, and you fill the tip with a bit, and sniff away. Parliment bumps.

[nick]

Please tell me it's an ostrich.

[insanesteveo]

it IS an ostrich, NOT a llama. its been photoshopped in the mouth region. ostriches have beaks and tongues, not teeth.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://pinker.wjh.harvard.edu/photos/santa_barbara_california/images/ostrich.jpg&imgrefurl=http://pinker.wjh.harvard.edu/photos/santa_barbara_california/pages/ostrich.htm&h=600&w=461&sz=32&tbnid=w1LdNDJeHiYxHM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dostrich&start=3&ei=xntDRa6FCYzQoAK62Y2LCg&sig2=sp5MWZXXuZczI0jYCJl2QQ&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=3
heres one where you can see no teeth. http://www.exzooberance.com/virtual%20zoo/they%20walk/ostrich/Ostrich%20471043.jpg

[BizzyBone]

LmFa0 I just relized how funny them things look !!!!

[kyuss]

haha, well I guess that's good because people will recognise me now that I'm being social :p

Serriously though, I chose that avatar because that's how I feel when the weekend roles around and I don't have any supplies.

I have an
animated gif
of that ostrich
somewhere on my other comp
Let me know if ya want it

[vaxn8]

Thanks Stevo- I thought that was an ostrich, isn't a llama more like a camel thing, or am i way off on that?? Animals aren't my specialty, chemicals are:D

[insanesteveo]

Thanks Stevo- I thought that was an ostrich, isn't a llama more like a camel thing, or am i way off on that?? Animals aren't my specialty, chemicals are:D

i had been way into animals as a kid, still kinda am. i am more interested in chemicals and plants now :)

and yea, a llama is more like a camel, kind of. i was actually going to say that too, but thought it might confuse people more. a llama is like a weird shaped, smaller, and longer headed horse. its head just sticks straight up.

http://www.sunvalleyllamas.com/llama%20two-step.jpg

[AWOL]

haha, yeah it's some weird mutated (photoshoped) ostrich. I don't really want the animated one, the animations get to me when I'm trying to read :p Thanks for the offer though!

[chemboy7]

I'll tell you what's really nice to smoke while nodding is a black and mild cigar... so damn good to just let that plastic tip sit between your teeth HST style. Those bastards don't mess around when they fall out of your mouth though. I know when I go for a serious nod my head tilts down towards my knees so that lit cigar is aimed right at my junk drawer. I have burned holes in a few pairs of pants right in the bullseye but luckily only been burned once, and that missed and got my thigh, thank God. Still hurt like a bitch the next day.

[ModestMarr]

mmmm camel special lights!

[PRIZEFIGHTERINFERNO]

LOL, yeah I've heard that "harder to quit than heroin" line at work before too when my boss is whinning to everyone about quitting. I just wanted to smack him upside the head and tell him to shoot up once and then make that statment. My boss has been quitting for the last 3 years and he's always telling me how shitty he feels because of the withdrawl, I just put my headphones on ... not like you can bring up how hard it really is to drop smack.
LOL

I smoke Natural American Spirits...anyone else like these. I like the BLue pack (Strongest) wife like the Yellow (light). And of course i like em more when im high.

Well i didnt want to mention but me and smokes while hi is seriously bad news. Kinda a confession in a way. i am not proud of this at all. I have this thing were i like to smoke alot in Bed right before i fall asleep...it just feels good. Well i always Nod out and though ive never caught fire...i do cause burns and shit on me and the blanket. My wife hates this...and for obvious reasons.
I know this is bad...you dont need to remind me...but i wouldnt care if you did. I think its a serious problem but i love it so much. Fuck, i know its dangerous.

[oxymoron]

I don't like cigarettes, but I like me a good cigar. Rocky Patels fuckin rock, I'm not rich though so I buy the seconds, but they are mighty tasty

[devilsdrug]

when i did smoke it was camel straights

[Duckfeet]

I smoke daily a couple Honduran robusto cigars, some seconds (by Punch I think). Since California is crazy w/this shit's taxes I get a box of 125 every couple months from Black Cat cigars in Philly who sells these bundles under their own name "Black Cat." Yeah it's a plug, if u do yer ordering online, they've always done me right.

I've never smoked cigarettes, except for one period...and I figure it's because when I first started heroin, I was attached to 101st Airborne in Camp Eagle in Vietnam (I wasn't airborne, for u troopers, was just attached to'em, prior to pullout), and then in Hue on advisory team when 101st pulled out, and in Hue, they always *smoked* heroin in cigarettes. So when I finally was in from field, I watched: Remove about a third of the tobacco. Then pull out half the filter, then replace filter. Take vial of pure--about $2-5--heroin, and suck about 1/4 th of it up in cigarette, then twist off end. Shake heroin down a little. Some people called'em "twisters" because u twisted off end...and then u smoked it, passing it to your friends. Got seriously strung out...hey, I was nineteen, what did I know. And that was first time other than once or twice as a kid I'd ever tried cigarettes too, so it kind of ruined me for smoking...wish I'd mailed me back, oh, a million or two of those vials...

but after I came home, u know, cigarettes just never seemed the same, for some reason...and neither did the "skag." I'd pay a hundred bucks in a heartbeat today for one of those two dollar vials. Never saw ever anything compared....and smoking a marlboro, you know, w/out a little skag in it, just seems like shooting up ice water to me....

[AWOL]

I think you're onto something there Duckfeet. Tabaco companies need to start mixing some H into the Cig's .. THEN the gov could bitch at them for cigarettes being addictive. Wouldn't that be sweet.

[Duckfeet]

I think you're onto something there Duckfeet. Tabaco companies need to start mixing some H into the Cig's .. THEN the gov could bitch at them for cigarettes being addictive. Wouldn't that be sweet.

Man--wouldn't that be cool. Would solve all kinds of problems. Gov would make tons on taxes, tobacco companies would profit, we could get some good smack: where's the downside? I'm sending a memo to Barak, telling him to run for president w/that as his campaign promise.

[SpecialGuy69]

Duck- that was a really interesting post. You should do a thread sometime on the dope scene in vietnam. I'd be really interested if you feel like writing a little. I'm sure I'm not the only one, either. You have some really interesting stories, I'm 27, and it's cool to hear the old-timers (no offense Duck) tell about back in the day... $2 vials of pure h... I'm drooling. If you feel like it, tell more!

[Duckfeet]

Duck- that was a really interesting post. You should do a thread sometime on the dope scene in vietnam. I'd be really interested if you feel like writing a little. I'm sure I'm not the only one, either. You have some really interesting stories, I'm 27, and it's cool to hear the old-timers (no offense Duck) tell about back in the day... $2 vials of pure h... I'm drooling. If you feel like it, tell more!

Well thanks! I tend to tell it in pieces on here. Nobody else was ever much interested, and it's been a long time since I met anyone who was actually there, and especially who was there during the end of the war, when heroin became a plague. By 1971 and '72, when I was there, the sentiment at home had turned extremely anti-war, and we were considered really bad attude G.I.'s unlike the guys who had been there before us. We were the guys you'd see in the movies of those times, who parted their hair in the middle, wore shades, and did drugs. We knew the war was winding down, and nobody was much Gung Ho anymore.

Officers who tried to get the troops to go on dangerous missions were often "fragged." (killed w/grenades) It was a crazy time. And it seems like everybody I know was getting strung out on heroin. I had friends up in Pacific Northwest who I sent it to, and they would send me acid and mescaline. And even though I'm as prone to dramatizing myself as any vain man, I try to be honest about the deal as I can be. So thanks again, better than muttering to myself in the rocking chair, right? and being an oldtimer is better than the alternative...It's like a relief--like I passed some kind of test or another. LOL.

[poonwhalla]

my favorite cigge is nat sherman(sp?) they kick ass either the straight or hint of mint or hint of clove. as far as hand rolled its bali shag but bali shag with coca leaf is better. Cigars it has to be the acid cigars I think its made by Drew estates. the acid cigars are the most smooth and sweet I have ever tasted they range from 6-8 for a biggie or 6 bucks for 5 small ones. Other then that me likea da menthols.

[AWOL]

my favorite cigge is nat sherman(sp?)

Are those the ones soaked in cognac with a black case?

[poonwhalla]

yeah dark brown to black in color

[AWOL]

hell yeah! I had those in detox from this older lady who apparently brought a suitcase full of them. Those were good.

[poonwhalla]

there hint O mint or clove infused ones are better if you are into the menthol thing nat's that is. On a side note if you like American Spirits for the no additave thing smoke winstons they are in the same boat but cheaper no additives ya know

[Papa Verine]

You can't smoke in the jail in my county anymore so a couple times I wound up in there for a month at a time. Yeah I felt the physical withdrawls but they really are nothing compared to any strong opiate withdrawl or benzos. I've had them all and smoking isn't even worth mentioning in comparrison.

Here's something I noticed and I've often wondered if anybody else experienced this. When I was suffering a moderate Benzo withdrawl from about 1-1/2 mg. xanax daily/ few months straight, Not smoking until I felt the Nicotine withdrawl made me feel considerably better. I thought of it as a stimulant W/D cancelling out a Depressant W/D at the time as that's all I could come up with to explain it. And as soon as I'd breakdown and smoke a cigarette, BAM! I'd instantly feel like COMPLETE shit again.

Anyone notice anything similar? Cancelling out one W/D with another?

[Narkotikon]

You can't smoke in the jail in my county anymore so a couple times I wound up in there for a month at a time. Yeah I felt the physical withdrawls but they really are nothing compared to any strong opiate withdrawl or benzos. I've had them all and smoking isn't even worth mentioning in comparrison.

Here's something I noticed and I've often wondered if anybody else experienced this. When I was suffering a moderate Benzo withdrawl from about 1-1/2 mg. xanax daily/ few months straight, Not smoking until I felt the Nicotine withdrawl made me feel considerably better. I thought of it as a stimulant W/D cancelling out a Depressant W/D at the time as that's all I could come up with to explain it. And as soon as I'd breakdown and smoke a cigarette, BAM! I'd instantly feel like COMPLETE shit again.

Anyone notice anything similar? Cancelling out one W/D with another?

I always have a smoke when I first wake up in the morning. If I wake up sick, which sometimes happens if I've not drank enough tea the night before, or if I don't have any made in the morning, the cigarette buzz that I sort of get in the morning will make me feel like I'm sicker. I don't think there's any worse feeling than going to bed fine, then waking up in stone cold w/d with dilated pupils and the sweats. I hate it, so I always try to drink before I got to bed or having something for in the morning.

[repeek]

Those Marlboro Red 72’s are my favorite right now, they are smooth and pack a Nicotine punch. Hot box two of them thirty minutes after a pharmococktail and I am holding on to the wall trying to get to a chair.

Duckfeet, I remember getting care packages from S/E Asia in the early Seventies, those were the good old days. Everything from Thai-sticks to Uzo and everything in-between. I can remember my mother asking why my friend would send toothpaste from Vietnam. Can’t remember what I told her though.

[slugbone]

Well thanks! I tend to tell it in pieces on here. Nobody else was ever much interested, and it's been a long time since I met anyone who was actually there, and especially who was there during the end of the war, when heroin became a plague. By 1971 and '72, when I was there, the sentiment at home had turned extremely anti-war, and we were considered really bad attude G.I.'s unlike the guys who had been there before us. We were the guys you'd see in the movies of those times, who parted their hair in the middle, wore shades, and did drugs. We knew the war was winding down, and nobody was much Gung Ho anymore.
Officers who tried to get the troops to go on dangerous missions were often "fragged." (killed w/grenades) It was a crazy time. And it seems like everybody I know was getting strung out on heroin. I had friends up in Pacific Northwest who I sent it to, and they would send me acid and mescaline. And even though I'm as prone to dramatizing myself as any vain man, I try to be honest about the deal as I can be. So thanks again, better than muttering to myself in the rocking chair, right? and being an oldtimer is better than the alternative...It's like a relief--like I passed some kind of test or another. LOL.


i'm with 420 duckfeet, interesting stuff. as we go along i'd love to hear more about your experiences.

[Duckfeet]

Those Marlboro Red 72’s are my favorite right now, they are smooth and pack a Nicotine punch. Hot box two of them thirty minutes after a pharmococktail and I am holding on to the wall trying to get to a chair.

Duckfeet, I remember getting care packages from S/E Asia in the early Seventies, those were the good old days. Everything from Thai-sticks to Uzo and everything in-between. I can remember my mother asking why my friend would send toothpaste from Vietnam. Can’t remember what I told her though.


Yeah...every once in a while guys from NY or somewhere, a little more hip to the strength of the heroin would buy it in bulk, and send it home, and I was running a lot of stuff up and down this little highway between the Vietnamese troops who scored for me, and the guys back in PhuBai, who were with American company. It was just so pure. I mean the pot was fine, about thirty bucks a key. and the vials of heroin--skag--were little plastic vials with screw on tops, w/number 5 or number 10 on them, best I can remember. Thai stick was more down south. You know how it is, though, once I got behind heroin, all the rest of the stuff... And this incredible speed too, this crap the drugstores carried, called Obesital, which christ you'd drink and and be up for days. when we were humpin, like out in the bush, that stuff was hot. Just weird time.

they had this camp, like, we called skag alley, it was like these guys in the 101st Airborne I'd hooked up with, didn't belong to nobody or it seemed like they just hung out, nobody in charge, and they lived in this bunker, never went out on patrol, stayed wasted...was the most bizarre time in my life, I mean...it just was weird. Once after a leave, I got some Orange sunshine in Oakland, little barrels of LSD, took it back, and we did it in the bunker, and I had Workingman Dead on Cassette: one of the greatful dead's greatest albums, and we're all tripping, and just the week before we'd had bad incoming and a couple guys got their shit blown away, and it was so bizarre, like a movie. Were tripping, then smoking heroin, trying to come down, and Grateful Dead blasting on little casette player, and meanwhile knowing that *out there* were people wanting to kill us...so strange. I woudn't have missed it for nothing. It was Rock and Roll, you know. On the other hand, I came out of there with a serious dope problem, and attitude towards authority I've never yet been able to shake. but I get a pension for being crazy so it's all good ha ha....

I feel for these guys in Iraq and Afghanistan now. Seems like it's even worse than my deal...and christ they're right in the middle of heroin capitals of the world...it's *got* to be over there. Wait 'til this thing starts to wind down, and all bet a lot of the contractors are moving some of that stuff back now......

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Yeah...every once in a while guys from NY or somewhere, a little more hip to the strength of the heroin would buy it in bulk, and send it home, and I was running a lot of stuff up and down this little highway between the Vietnamese troops who scored for me, and the guys back in PhuBai, who were with American company. It was just so pure. I mean the pot was fine, about thirty bucks a key. and the vials of heroin--skag--were little plastic vials with screw on tops, w/number 5 or number 10 on them, best I can remember. Thai stick was more down south. You know how it is, though, once I got behind heroin, all the rest of the stuff... And this incredible speed too, this crap the drugstores carried, called Obesital, which christ you'd drink and and be up for days. when we were humpin, like out in the bush, that stuff was hot. Just weird time.

they had this camp, like, we called skag alley, it was like these guys in the 101st Airborne I'd hooked up with, didn't belong to nobody or it seemed like they just hung out, nobody in charge, and they lived in this bunker, never went out on patrol, stayed wasted...was the most bizarre time in my life, I mean...it just was weird. Once after a leave, I got some Orange sunshine in Oakland, little barrels of LSD, took it back, and we did it in the bunker, and I had Workingman Dead on Cassette: one of the greatful dead's greatest albums, and we're all tripping, and just the week before we'd had bad incoming and a couple guys got their shit blown away, and it was so bizarre, like a movie. Were tripping, then smoking heroin, trying to come down, and Grateful Dead blasting on little casette player, and meanwhile knowing that *out there* were people wanting to kill us...so strange. I woudn't have missed it for nothing. It was Rock and Roll, you know. On the other hand, I came out of there with a serious dope problem, and attitude towards authority I've never yet been able to shake. but I get a pension for being crazy so it's all good ha ha....

I feel for these guys in Iraq and Afghanistan now. Seems like it's even worse than my deal...and christ they're right in the middle of heroin capitals of the world...it's *got* to be over there. Wait 'til this thing starts to wind down, and all bet a lot of the contractors are moving some of that stuff back now......


I couldn’t go, was 4F because of the broken back, but I am a brat………….never even saw the States till 63 so all my buddies were over there, the last guy to lose it over there (Shay) was my next door neighbor. Never even knew a civilian till I was a freshman in high school, that was a scene showing up at school with my white walls with all the long hairs calling my family baby killers and the like. Boy were they surprised when the fighting started, the brat was Akido trained by ROK Rangers from five years old. Worked counseling the PTSD's in Big Springs for a year in 76............I have nothing but the gratitude and respect for all of you guys.

My first job was moving whole baggage from overseas on a government contract from 71 to 73, didn’t see much furniture everything from gold to Sansui electronics; the money was great.

My son just went through simulated training at Brag, we are just waiting for the phone call his orders have come.

[0piB|i$$1988]

I personaly hate american cigarettes, but i love canadian cigs. Such a difference...tastes sooooo much better, if youve ever tryed a canadian cig u kno wut im talkin about. I always get Du Maurier over the net, and if i am smokin american cigs, when low on cash, i like marlboro 27's. Dumaurier r great 4 when ur buzzin on op's, enhances the experience.

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

Nat Sherman Hint of Mint

[nick]

As I said before I went to the US recently,you guys have far better cigs.Which are far chearper,cigs in the UK are about $10 plus a packet of 20.
I'd also like to say viva camel wide gauge.Hell,you know you've had a cig after one of those babies.

[OxyContinuously]

Newports all the way (box tho, no 100's)

[theobarbital]

definately. Marlboro Reds.
a harsh smoke for a hard drug.
every junkie i know smokes them if they have the money to buy name brand.
they get the buzz going and taste so goddamn good after a line or a shot or a drink.

[Substance-P-Inhibition]

Must say, I'll go with the p-funks. After smoking marb milds, then reds, then camels, and quitting numerous times, it seems like the only cigarette i can handle now is the parliaments... lol

[Inspektahdek]

marlboro mediums for sure:

So many times I've held that cigarette and nodded while the end of the cigarette started to burn my finger and it taking me a minute to care about it, haha