Dangers of Intranasal Opioids Daily!?!?

[insaneike]

Well title kinda is self-explanitoy... Someone snorts oxycodone, in form of Roxicodone 30mg, daily and sometimes msContins or MSIR with it. Well, this has bene going on for like... almost a year DAILY, many, many times daly at that. Very high doses opposed to the avg persons toler(90mg per setting). So someone was wondering what type of damage could be caused here.

Would it be worth it to do a CWE(basicly getting rid of insuable fillers, like you'd do on percs for getting rid of APAP) on these tiny pills? tHE ROXi 30s(IR oxy) are smaller than OC10s btw, by just hair, but smaller! So theres not alot of fillers to begin with.

Now someone has noticed when he snifs shit it's not half as good as it used to be, could something be damged/ing up in there from so much powder? Dses have also been adjusted for toelrance and a few mor mg added to comapre to oral doses as intranasal isn't as good as oral but someone likes it to kick in on the spot usualy, someone also eats as amny as he takes daily so...the dose/toler isn't the prob here lol. He doesn't think anyway! as it is adjusted right, or should be.

ANY IMPUT APPRECIATED! I talked to some other dude in this boat form daily hydromorph sniffing, one nostril doesn't give hardly any effect for him anymore he claims.

later

[nick]

I think I hear the needle calling you.Can't help with snorting oxys,but I've snorted a lot of M and C back in the day.Had to stop because nose couldn't/wouldn't allow access this way.No matter how hard I tried to snort only a fraction of drug would be imbibed.After 15 years the inside of my left nostrel is still screwed.Of course this lead to full time injecting in a very short period of time and from there it was a short step to being doomed.Hopefully someone here might be able to offer harm reduction tips for snorting.

[Opiyum]

Its rare (supposedly) but you can get Hep C from sharing straws and bills and such. It happened to me.

[Chemical_Boy]

"Someone" used to snort so much coke that he gagged up a fleshy piece of bloody membrane from who the hell knows where and had a wicked nose bleed one morning right after doing a pornographically huge line. "Someones" nostril is still fucked up and has septum problems and it has been 10 years since he stopped doing coke like that. I would imagine that the same thing could happen from sniffing large amounts of pill dust or any other dust for long periods of time.

[nick]

In the worst case scenario you can burn a hole that destroys the septum.There is a UK soap star who now has one large nostril rather than two small ones.This is extreme but can happen.
Opi is 100% right about HepC and snorting.

[suffocate]

The opiates themselves aren't the major culprit that causes nasal/septal damage, it is all the binders and such that are in the pills. Snorting drugs won't, in most cases, cause significant damage if this route of ingestion is used only periodically in moderation (i'm no docter, but if you insufflate several times a month I don't see that as being particularly dangerous). Daily intranasal drug use, on the other hand, is a completely different story.

I stopped all nasally-ingested drug use, as a result of the damage that I had previously caused to my septum and nostrils. To put this in perspective, currently my right nostril is partially collapsed, and my left appears that I kept using in this manner it would end up exactly like my right (it's definately not nearly as bad as my right, however. Although I haven't blow out any blood or tissue in quite some time, I remember times where, when I blew my nose, it appeared that chunks of tissue were coming loose. I have to take decongestants (and due to allergies, often anti-histamines) daily, becuase my nostrils - at all times - are very runny and congested. The bridge of my nose has a slight, visible pinch which is apparent moreso on the side of my worse nostril.

Now, this is three or four months after I decided that I needed to stop. I used intranasal amphetamines and other stimulants daily for about 18 months (this was during high school). During this time I was also insufflating MDMA a few times a month, and experimenting with methamphetine - which I fortunately only tried several times before stopping completely. Oh, and before I forget, a few years before my amphetamine use, I also was sniffing percocets quite frequently, which i'm sure many of you know creates a pile of powder the size of my thumb (width and height) for each 5-10mgs of oxycodone.

Now, here comes the kicker... cocaine. Once I took my first line, I fell in love (or perhaps it was lust) with the white devil. I was using between 2 and 5 days a weeks, each time between .5 and 1 gram. This went on for 6-8 months, before I started to realize the damage I was doing to myself. I've always preffered opiates to stimulants (or anything for that matter), but availabity of cocaine always made it easier to get. Eventually I stopped cocaine all together, and have only been sniffing opiates (primarily oxycodone, hydrocodone, and morphine) since. After the cocaine did it's magic to my nostrils, however, the pills kept making the situation worse, and I had to give that up too.

Moral of the story? Daily intranasal use of anything for an extended peroid of time can and eventually will cause serious damage (I assume if you were snorting sugar you'd probably face the same problems). If I could take it all back, I definately would have kept my sniffing to a minimum, because as nice as it can be, after a few years of use I am no longer able to enjoy a line here and there even once and a while.

I hope that cocaine, stims, and et cetera don't become a problem for you like they did for me, and as an opiate user, nasal drug use isn't really worth the cost (at least in my opinion). Bioavaliabily is almost always better orally, and i'm assuming also intraveinously -although I have little experience in IV drug ingestion. Enjoy it every once and a while, for that little extra kick, but try and stay away from it as much as possible.

If anyone is interested, let me know and i'll post a picture of said nostrils so that hopefully I can scare you away from daily use of your nose as a method of ingestion. Hopefully I was of some help, and any questions are welcomed (as personal as they may be). I apoligize if I rambled on a little bit, also.

P.S. Nick, I think the soap star you refered to is Danniella Westbrooke. She has had reconstructive surgery since, but here is a link to a pic of her uni-nostril. <<http://www.spleen.dsl.pipex.com/images-av/west-quiz.jpg>>

[SpecialGuy69]

P.S. Nick, I think the soap star you refered to is Danniella Westbrooke. She has had reconstructive surgery since, but here is a link to a pic of her uni-nostril. <<http://www.spleen.dsl.pipex.com/images-av/west-quiz.jpg>>

I'm not an expert, but that does look like a photoshop to me. No offense meant.

[vaxn8]

Suff- thanks for posting that. I've never been a snorter, but a question like this could be answered technicallly and be 100% true, but would never have the impact a personal story does. A lot of us choose to do dangerous things, but I like to know that we know exactly what we're getting into and how we can minimize harm. Also, I have no clue how you could have tried a needle and can stay away from it, but if you can do that, keep it up. There aren't many people that can say that. Once I tried it, it was all over for me!

[suffocate]

I'm not an expert, but that does look like a photoshop to me. No offense meant.

No offense taken buddy, lol! I though the exact same thing when I first saw the pictures of her nose. <<http://www.evilgerald.com/Issues/Issue5/Assets/westbrook.jpg>> <<http://www.endemoluk.com/?q=node/25&tid=4>> Reading about her own personal downfall, howver, was one of the things that made me reconsider some of the choices I was making in my life.

Also, I have no clue how you could have tried a needle and can stay away from it, but if you can do that, keep it up. There aren't many people that can say that. Once I tried it, it was all over for me!

Experimenting with IV ingestion was definately an unwise decision - not one that I necessarily regret per se, but one that has been hard to deal with ever since. I've seen how it can tear apart peoples lives and decided that the step I took was one that I was not prepared to take. You know MUCH better than I do how hard it is to stop, but having that knowledge caused me to make a commitment to not let it take over my life. I've seen my own tolerance grow very rapidly from oral and nasal use, and can't even imagine how I would turn out if I was shooting daily. As painful as it is to say no... at this point in my life it was a decision that I HAD to make.
It's been a long while since i've shot, and it'll probably be a long while before I do it again, but having seen first hand the damage nasal ingestion has caused me, I can't even fathom the damage the IV ingestion would inevitably cause.

I fully appreciate your input and am glad that you feel someone may benefit from my experiences. I can say for sure that someone has most definately benefited from yours as well.

[Chemical_Boy]

Damn dude.



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[antigonemuse]

gonna post from experience here... before my needle came out to play, all i did was sniff. for three years.... OC ER

long term effects...

my right nostril is larger
its been a year since i have had a daily tooting habbit, but i still have scabs in my nostrils that wont go away. They are painful, and sometimes get so bad that it blocks my nostril. Until they eventually blow out and reform. I used to get nose bleeds like a faucet pouring. All horrorshow like. my nose is fuct

mind you, I still snort a line or two here and there... but not like i used to. if your gonna do, avoid endo OC generics. I rarely got thos, but they definatly contributed heavily to the damage. I perfer name brand OC's or abg's.

oh common sense is not to snort asprin or tylenol.

Kisses, goodluck