Fewest Carbons (lowest MW?) for opioid

[borohydride]

It's always been a competition (seemingly) amongst designers of opioids to see how few carbon atoms they could use in their structure. The common target was usually M potency. I remember that they made quite a big thing about tapentadol over this.

Tapentadol C14H23NO
Ketobemidone C15H21NO2
Nortilidine C16H21NO2
Prodine C16H23NO2
Morphine C17[/b[H19NO3
Fentanyl [b]C22H28N2O

I hope you see what I'm getting at. Carbon is the scaffold of organic drugs so the fewer Cs, the lower the complexity. It doesn't follow that it means that it's the simpler to make, but it does mean simpler final complexity.

I'm not getting into the subjective (side)effects such as with tapentandol (in particular) but I've not seen a simpler 'morphine range' opioid with 14 carbons before and I doubt it's possible... but I would like to be proved wrong...

[doctor diesel]

UK weather's darned cold for the time of year, dontcha think?

[borohydride]

UK weather's darned cold for the time of year, dontcha think?

+100 - only 1 C in CO2... and non in H2O!

[doctor diesel]

Well fuck me backwards.

[borohydride]

Well fuck me backwards.

But we haven't been formally introduced, even.... no matter - grease me up man, I'm going in!!!

[chopstix]

Sweet!! ANOTHER junky couple spawned from opiophile. <3<3<3

Hey Jonny - maybe you could turn this into a junkie dating service??

[borohydride]

Sweet!! ANOTHER junky couple spawned from opiophile. <3<3<3

Sweet - as long as :

a) I'm tops
b) My GF can watch

oh, I practice safe-sex....

[radioactive_man]

Hold on boro, let me get my camera, wife, and the lights.

Should I keep the wig on?

[borohydride]

Hold on boro, let me get my camera, wife, and the lights.

Should I keep the wig on?

You ARE a superhero!!! - I just think of your name & there you are.... yes, the input of you guys is vital. Since I am diabled, Doc. D will have to do 'reverse cowgirl' or, I suppose, 'reverse cowboy' on top of me but it should be good for getting footage.

I'm no expert on filming this stuff but I believe these is such a thing as a 'pussy light' designed to light the starlets 'area of interest' so I presume an 'arse light' would work on the same general principals...

Man, this site is just SO supportive. I hardly know Dr. D and yet he implores me to perform anal intercourse with him and being that I am a gentleman, how can I say no?

[doctor diesel]

You ARE a superhero!!! - I just think of your name & there you are.... yes, the input of you guys is vital. Since I am diabled, Doc. D will have to do 'reverse cowgirl' or, I suppose, 'reverse cowboy' on top of me but it should be good for getting footage.

I'm no expert on filming this stuff but I believe these is such a thing as a 'pussy light' designed to light the starlets 'area of interest' so I presume an 'arse light' would work on the same general principals...

Man, this site is just SO supportive. I hardly know Dr. D and yet he implores me to perform anal intercourse with him and being that I am a gentleman, how can I say no?

Well, you can't say no - t'would be improper. And hurtful.
Yes, I could clip one of those USB keyboard lights to your coccyx so I can see where I'm going.
And I want some teabagging as foreplay.


Doc