dumbest question ever

[Beautifully_Broken]

sooo...whats smokable, in the pharmaceudical field?


:p

[slugbone]

sooo...whats smokable, in the pharmaceudical field?


:p

i've never tried to smoke any type of pharm, i've been too worried about wasting the product. might as well just shoot it if anything.

[chemboy7]

Be more specific, what pills would you like to smoke? Some you can, some you can't. Most of the pills that you can you have to have packed ontop of some weed in a bowl though because with the fillers and binders in pills they tend to not work so good off of foil.

[SpecialGuy69]

Chem: it's not a pill, but the only thing that comes to mind is fent from the gel patches. You could easily squeeze the goop out onto a bowl. Other than that, I think you'd be wasting pills- if you are getting something that's very small (no binders) and powerful per mg (i.e. dillies) you could probably crush those up real fine and smoke em, but everyone swears d's are for IV only. Just guessing.

[chemboy7]

Chem: it's not a pill, but the only thing that comes to mind is fent from the gel patches. You could easily squeeze the goop out onto a bowl. Other than that, I think you'd be wasting pills- if you are getting something that's very small (no binders) and powerful per mg (i.e. dillies) you could probably crush those up real fine and smoke em, but everyone swears d's are for IV only. Just guessing.

The gel smokes just fine off of foil, no need to bowl it. Smoking pills is not my preffered method of ingestion, and there is alot wasted do to pyrolyzation (sp) but with some pills it is possible. I have been smoking on some Avinzia's today because I can't seem to come acrossed any gear and I happen to know that it works like a charm. Walked someone else through it last night too and they also thought it was the bee's knees. I would have much rather slammed the bastards but when you aint got a rig and want alittle rush sometimes smoking is the next best thing.

[zombiewoof23]

Chem: it's not a pill, but the only thing that comes to mind is fent from the gel patches. You could easily squeeze the goop out onto a bowl. Other than that, I think you'd be wasting pills- if you are getting something that's very small (no binders) and powerful per mg (i.e. dillies) you could probably crush those up real fine and smoke em, but everyone swears d's are for IV only. Just guessing.

Avinza's can be smoked and work very well that way. Oxy's can also be smoked. Avinza's hit harder when smoked than browning or eating, but don't last as long.

[Azrael]

The gel smokes just fine off of foil, no need to bowl it. Smoking pills is not my preffered method of ingestion, and there is alot wasted do to pyrolyzation (sp) but with some pills it is possible. I have been smoking on some Avinzia's today because I can't seem to come acrossed any gear and I happen to know that it works like a charm. Walked someone else through it last night too and they also thought it was the bee's knees. I would have much rather slammed the bastards but when you aint got a rig and want alittle rush sometimes smoking is the next best thing.


I really wish people would give some caution when they talk about smoking Fent gel on foil, since I OD'd doing that, and my friend also OD'd only difference was he stopped breathing and we had to call the paramedics (after 2 small hits). So please, please, please be careful if you decide to smoke fentanyl patches, especially the 100 microgram ones like we had, as I compare smoking fentanyl to a very condensed high of smoking heroin, kind of like a "crack" version nof heroin. I came to this conclusion about year ago when I randomly found two really old patches and decided to smoke then...I then as a result, became quite "cracked out" on opiates as it were and left a real messed up voicemail on my ex's phone. (note: my tolerance is about 5x-10x what it was when I originally OD'd six years ago, so if you do have a tolerance from hell like me, then the warning should be slighted but caution should still stand). Be well,

-Azrael

[CUBErt]

Only one's I have tried are Oxys after hearing that you could smoke them off foil. Tasted awful, like a terrible chemical taste... like I was bringing myself one step closer to death. And the effects were not that noticeable, so I'll stick to oral/snorting.

[chemboy7]

Oxy's wont smoke well at all off foil, they wont run and just tend to char... too many fillers and binders. You need a catylist like Marijuana under it in a bowl. The crushed Oxy should be placed ontop of your already packed bowl; within one or two hits it will have all carmelized into a reddish, brownish, blackish chunk that is then crumbled back ontop of the bowl. When smoked in this fashion smoking Oxycontin works very effeciently. True, when smoking any drug or pill you will lose some of the active drug in the process of putting it to flame but when smoking them in a bowl with weed no smoke is lost, it is all sucked down into the pipe.

[nick]

Only one's I have tried are Oxys after hearing that you could smoke them off foil. Tasted awful, like a terrible chemical taste... like I was bringing myself one step closer to death. And the effects were not that noticeable, so I'll stick to oral/snorting.
The things we'll do to try and get high huh?
I once made the mistake of trying to smoke some ancient tuinal,big mistake.I remember coming round with concerned faces pearing down at me and thinking never again.

[Chemical_Boy]

I knew a guy who had one methadose pill once years ago. I told him he should just take the damn thing and be thatnkful for it. He ended up putiing it in a huge bowl with a bunch of grass and smokeing it with a few people- one of which might have been me, but I would never admit to it. Had it been me, I would of found that it tasted awful and was a complete waste. Considering they only delvier 10mg (at least this one) they are huge compared to dolaphines. One 10mg would have done a number on one non-opiate tolerant person, but burning it between a group was a real waste. I don't know why anyone would want to smoke great pills like oxys or meth anyway. Eat them little buggers and be thankful for them!!!!

[antigonemuse]

name brand ocs smoke well on foil.... taste reminds me of marshmellows.... morph smokes so do barbs...

personally... im sure smoking would be great, if i didnt bang. think your tolerance needs to be low (er)

and it does waste product--- up in smoke

[Beaker]

Smoked fentanyl is off the hook, probably the closest thing to an opiate injection rush without a needle. I have also heard of people smoking oxycontin but have never tried it myself.

[chemboy7]

name brand ocs smoke well on foil.... taste reminds me of marshmellows.... morph smokes so do barbs...

When you say name brand do you mean the OC 80s or the AGBs cause I have only tried the latter and got some awfull char out out it and hardly no run what-so-ever. It was more like over crisping then smoking. The vapors I did catch off of it did give me a tiny head rush though. I had to salvage the remaining clump of char by crumbling it to a powder and throwing it ontop of a bowl. Hit the ticket that way so didn't waste much I just couldn't imagine getting a good hit foil-wise; maybe yours were different?

And that's weird that you think they taste of marshmellows. The taste of OC's smoke and the Avinza's for that matter (cause they taste damn near identical smoked) always reminded me of my grandparent's basement for some reason. Not that it smelled like their basement, and I like the taste of their smoke, just didn't make me think of marshmellows. :D

[Narkotikon]

I have absolutely no idea because I've never tried to do it. I'd say morphine could be smoked, as well and maybe oxy. I'm not sure though. I know you can smoke K, but that's not an opie.

Edit: You can also smoke Fent. For instance, peel back the duragesic patches and smoke the inner part that has the Fent. Sort of gooey and gel like.

[Soda]

I'm all for getting high, but so much time and energy is placed into making medications efficient in the form they are meant to be taken. Reading the warnings and directions on the back of the medication is totally a good idea.

[insaneike]

In my opinion attempting to smoke ANY RX pills is pretty damn stupid. Especialy shit like morphine or Oxycodone!!! Ever wonder why oral ope is much better than smoked!?!? yeha, over 70% of your morph is destroyed when vap'd. Unless you have a VERY big wad of ope don't smoke it :p and smoking Oxycodone just doens't NOT work! I mean it works, but the way oxy works just doesn't work half assed when smoked!


I have tried smoking Oxy many a times, sadly. The first was when I had no toler, busted a whole OC40, not filtered or anyhting onto some foil, ggently heated like u would smack or fent, did that till ti was gone, it only felt like I'd taken 1-3 fuckign lortabs!!!! yeah... so pointless. THe next time was kinda recnetly, I tried smoking a Roxi 30 as is, FUCKIGN STUPID AND DIDN"T DO SHIT! Keep in mind I had a toler at this point. Now very recnetly I tried smoking 90mg of Oxy in form fo Roxi 30s. I filtered them like you would for IV use to make em smokable ya know... well it only felt like I had taken 20mg of Oxy!!! God what a waist of $ and good oxy!!

and the only thing that isn't stupid to smoke in the RX world is Fentanyl. Yeah... :D and you may get to try it someday if u havn't already! :p and smoked fent is better than hospital dosed IV morphines and regular street smack smoked/sniff'd... :D

later

[chemboy7]

In my opinion attempting to smoke ANY RX pills is pretty damn stupid. Especialy shit like morphine or Oxycodone!!! Ever wonder why oral ope is much better than smoked!?!? yeha, over 70% of your morph is destroyed when vap'd. Unless you have a VERY big wad of ope don't smoke it :p and smoking Oxycodone just doens't NOT work! I mean it works, but the way oxy works just doesn't work half assed when smoked!


I have tried smoking Oxy many a times, sadly. The first was when I had no toler, busted a whole OC40, not filtered or anyhting onto some foil, ggently heated like u would smack or fent, did that till ti was gone, it only felt like I'd taken 1-3 fuckign lortabs!!!! yeah... so pointless. THe next time was kinda recnetly, I tried smoking a Roxi 30 as is, FUCKIGN STUPID AND DIDN"T DO SHIT! Keep in mind I had a toler at this point. Now very recnetly I tried smoking 90mg of Oxy in form fo Roxi 30s. I filtered them like you would for IV use to make em smokable ya know... well it only felt like I had taken 20mg of Oxy!!! God what a waist of $ and good oxy!!

and the only thing that isn't stupid to smoke in the RX world is Fentanyl. Yeah... :D and you may get to try it someday if u havn't already! :p and smoked fent is better than hospital dosed IV morphines and regular street smack smoked/sniff'd... :D

later

Oxy's wont smoke well at all off foil, they wont run and just tend to char... too many fillers and binders. You need a catylist like Marijuana under it in a bowl. The crushed Oxy should be placed ontop of your already packed bowl; within one or two hits it will have all carmelized into a reddish, brownish, blackish chunk that is then crumbled back ontop of the bowl. When smoked in this fashion smoking Oxycontin works very effeciently. True, when smoking any drug or pill you will lose some of the active drug in the process of putting it to flame but when smoking them in a bowl with weed no smoke is lost, it is all sucked down into the pipe.

[All Hell]

Smoked fentanyl is off the hook, probably the closest thing to an opiate injection rush without a needle. I have also heard of people smoking oxycontin but have never tried it myself.

I have tried smoked fentanyl and didn't get that much of a rush. I don't suggest iv'n fent though because of its potency. At least thats what I have read in another post on this site. I have never tried shooting H but i have been shooting MS Contin 100mg. I do have two questions and I'm not sure if I should post them somewhere else or if someone could answer them here? 1. If I want to come back to a specific post (so I can see what everyone's replies are for this question), how would I go about doing that? 2. How much different is doing an MS Contin 100mg and doing the same amount of H? With this MS I get a rush that feels hot and like pins and needles but I don't necessarily get an awesome buzz, just an intense feeling for about 30 seconds. What does H feel like? Thanks in advance for answering my questions :)

[flipside]

I have tried smoked fentanyl and didn't get that much of a rush. I don't suggest iv'n fent though because of its potency. At least thats what I have read in another post on this site. I have never tried shooting H but i have been shooting MS Contin 100mg. I do have two questions and I'm not sure if I should post them somewhere else or if someone could answer them here? 1. If I want to come back to a specific post (so I can see what everyone's replies are for this question), how would I go about doing that? 2. How much different is doing an MS Contin 100mg and doing the same amount of H? With this MS I get a rush that feels hot and like pins and needles but I don't necessarily get an awesome buzz, just an intense feeling for about 30 seconds. What does H feel like? Thanks in advance for answering my questions :)


Oh Boy, that's a lot of questions, at leat this early in the am

As for the first, when you post a reply to a thread, scroll down to the option to subscribe to a thread, pick your poisin and you'l be notified by e-mail when that post gets a response.



2.What do you mean 100mg of MS contin to the same amount of H surely you don't mean 100mg of H ( or mabey you do), , sorry but I need a real conversion I can work with, mabey CB or Vax can tackle that one with the info you've given.

3.Are you considering trying H? For me it's an intense euphoric rush, followed by a nice moderate period of probably your best street opi high ever. Yes pins and needles up the spine into the top of my head, and if it's really good a warm feeling in my groin . Depending on where I am in my opiate use for the day I either get right ( normal) and then get on about the business of daily living sitting occassionaly to nod ( and share my ciggs with the carpet, my clothes etc), and if I've been on low doses will usually just sit and float.

All in all it's a nice ride when you first start, but if you pick up that habbit it can become your best friend and the devil himself.

Check out the thread "Why Heroin?"