Freedom BANNED; hoodies and hats

[jibthis]

Mayor proposes ban on caps and hoodies

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In Topeka, KS, Mayor Bill Bunten, proposes a ban on all hooded sweatshirts and baseball caps to help lower crime. (Source: KTKA/CNN)
TOPEKA, KS (KTKA/CNN) – A Kansas mayor wants to impose a ban on caps and hooded sweatshirts to help lower the crime rate.

Even though police use surveillance cameras to catch criminals every day in Topeka, the hood of a sweatshirt makes it very hard to identify them.

"Have a sign or something that says ‘please remove your hats' or ‘lower your hoodie' so the camera can see who's there," Mayor Bill Bunten said.

The proposal has encountered many critics, but he believes it's a small request to reduce crime.

"I wouldn't have a quarrel with it," Bunten said. "Now, I don't have a hoodie and I don't have a ball cap, but if I did I'd take it off. Most people take their hats off when they into a store anyway."

Sarah Laing works at Marion Lane Candles in downtown Topeka and sees people in hoodies and caps every day. She calls the proposal kind of crazy.

"If someone going to rob you, they're going to rob you," Laing said. "They'll find another way to hide their face. It could make it worse, you never know."

Some council members disagree with the proposal while others commend the mayor for thinking outside the box.

Bunten said Topeka Police Chief Ron Miller told him about the idea to ban hoodies and ball caps. He said other cities found it to be successful.

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http://www.kctv5.com/story/16657800/mayor-proposes-ban-on-caps-and-hoodies

I do not understand how this is going to solve anything. I mean if someone is going to rob the place whats going to stop them from wearing a hoodie or hat in the process. This is just stupid, taking away any and all rights in the name of security or whatever. Honestly what is next they are going to ban me from standing and pissing because some people have bad aim? GRRRr

[chemboy7]

You're from Flint... isn't it illegal there to sag your pants? I know they were proposing the idea of fining people with saggy pants a few years ago. I believe it was due to gang activity. I thought it was hilarious at the time. If I was a voting man, I would have supported it. Not because I want anyone to lose any freedoms, but because ass clowns that dress like that deserve all the shit you can pile on them.

[jibthis]

You're right! I am not sure if it was signed into law or not but I did hear it on the news. I really wouldn't have cared for my sake on that one but it is BS that they would pass something so ridiculous. I think it looks so bad with people sagging and you can see their grundies haha.

Now the hoodie thing is a whole new story. Everyone wears hoodies, EVERYONE! At least its not like a nationwide thing but hell it is still very upsetting.

[chemboy7]

You're right!

I usually am.










Just fucking around man. Yeah, outlawing hats and hoodies is pretty ridiculous. I'm picturing an angry mob of bald men picketing it in my head. The whole thing seems very unamerican... then again so do drug laws.

Land of the free, eh?

[Bricks & Stacks]

Winter in that city is going to fuckin suck. I always wear a hoodie under a winter jacket even if the jacket has a hood.

But what do I know I also sag my pants, but not far enough anyone could see my boxers I def don't let my ass hang out like some of the young bucks.

[iriewon]

this is bs...so is the pants saggin "law". i believe georgia, jersey, and a couple others did start throwing fines at ppl for saggin their pants. also i hope this isnt just directed at the homeboys. 70yr old men better be fucked with for wearing/not taking off their "caps" too. at the end of the day this is just rediculous imo. i refuse to take my hoodie & cap off and stop saggin my pants idgaf. g'd up from the feet up bahahaaa >:|

[jibthis]

I guess I worded the title a little off. It is still just a proposal it isn't law yet. I shouldnt have put banned but I guess it is an attention grabber. oopsie if someone wants to change it, it's fine by me

[jimmyfingers]

I think it is silly when guys where hoodies with the hood on inside or warm weather. Wannbe thugz 4 life

[PoppyLlama]

this is fucking stupid. whoever decided that hoodies and hats should be illegal is a fucking total dunce. honestly, alot of peple just disgrace the human race and make me ashamed to be a homosapien. fuck em

" Most people take their hats off when they into a store anyway."\
yeah maybe in the fucking 1800s!!! this guy is so old he shouldn't be in government, doesn't understand society well enough

[opi]

I love hoodies, especially because I get cold very easily, now that I ain't doing opiates very much. I try not to drive with my hoodie on because I think it looks suspicious, but sometimes I do it.

I think that law is some bullshit, that is some fascist ass shit. I would not obey that law if it came to my city.

[tui]

Woah... outrageous. I can't believe it's already law in some places... and the saggy pants thing... seriously? I'm more offended when men insist on wearing their pants hoisted up under their armpits. Can I have a ban on that?

When the gvmt starts dictating dress-codes, they have way too much power.

[smokey]

When the gvmt starts dictating dress-codes, they have way too much power.

The cops where hats all the time, thats some bullshit

[Lopossum]

Businesses and private property owners can enforce any dress code they want. My bank has a sign that says "remove your hat", and if you don't, guess what? They throw you out! Putting it into law would be a horrible affront to liberty, but, newsflash... "no shirt, no shoes, no service" isn't actually a law ANYWHERE, just a common dress code. As a chronically barefoot kind of scruffy looking doper, I encounter resistance on a daily basis as a result of my appearance.

[Izm One]

The Westboro Baptist Church is out of Topeka, also. It's obviously a hot bed of progressive think tanks.

[Michael]

Got the source on this? Sounds nuts. Though, some places, I'd believe it. What a shame eh. Here, some malls have a policy that you can't wear your hood up inside. When it's real windy or cold, I sometimes wear mine up and get reminded to put it down. I don't exactly fit the description of a juvenile delinquent though.

[Fat Pie]

High school bullshit.

Then again, they banned burqas...

[chemboy7]

High school bullshit.

Then again, they banned burqas...

What? They did? Seems like that would be covered by freedom of religion, no?

[Fat Pie]

What? They did? Seems like that would be covered by freedom of religion, no?

There are legal restrictions on wearing headscarves or full-body coverings in many countries, even ones considered 'Islamic' by the West, including (but not limited to) France, Germany, Morocco, Algeria, Turkey, Tunisia, Egypt and Uzbekistan. The laws in France were essentially 'snuck in' by making it a 'face covering' law, not a 'burqa' law.

There are also plans underway for bans in countries like Belgium, and maybe even Britain.

The 'veil issue' and the number of women wearing headscarves or coverings has been wildly overstated and accompanied by hysterical Islamophobia in the media.

This info from Cracked, while not infallible, does put things a little in perspective:

"So for instance, in France they have about 3 million Muslim women. French police decided to figure out how many of them wore burqas and/or niquabs and found the number to be ... 367.

Not 367,000, but 367, a number so small that from a statistical point of view, it's barely enough to register as a margin of error. As for the rest of Europe, the numbers are even more disastrous for the burqa business (for instance, Belgium has 500,000 Muslims, a couple dozen wear the burqa).

Yes, there are Middle Eastern countries where the veils are required by law (namely Iran and Saudi Arabia) and combined those countries have less than 5 percent of the world's Muslims. There are actually more Muslim countries that outright ban the wearing of the veils than there are that require them. They can do that because wearing a veil is not required in Islam but is more of a custom, depending on where you live and who's in charge."

http://www.cracked.com/article_18911_5-ridiculous-things-you-probably-believe-about-islam.html

[chemboy7]

Oh, that's my ignorance I suppose. I assumed you were talking about the US.

[Fat Pie]

Much as some Repubs would like to overwrite the bits of the constitution they don't agree with (if they even know about them; how do you think Glenn Beck would react if I told him that Thomas Jefferson, one of his heroes, taught himself Arabic using his own copy of the Qur'an? Or that this line appears in the Treaty of Tripoli, basically an alliance between the Ottoman Empire and the US: "The government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Mussulmen [Moslems]."? It's all aped from the article I quoted above), the right to religious freedom is enshrined within the United States Constitution.

Thusly: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

So if you wanna wear a veil, that's your choice to do so. That is the law.


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