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vaxn8
10-02-2006, 10:28 PM
... is going insane, can't count, or I am just getting a really nice break (after a really shitty Friday).
OK, I explained my whole Friday deal in depth, but the only part that is relevant is the end. I (NOT SWIM or my friend- sorry swim's on my nerves today) met up with my guy on Friday. I owed him for 2g and was picking up one. Before I met him, he knew I was having a bad day and also knew I had his $ and knew what I needed. He ended up giving me 2 for 1, and said "just for business". The 2 weeks before that, I had been on vacation and was using rx's so didn't buy anything.
Tonight, I'm going to get a half, he knows this beforehand. I go, we end up talking awhile, he's a nice guy but normally doesn't stop to chat like he did tonight (especially at the location we were at), so I thought it was a little weird, but no big deal. I get home and look at my half, which is definitely not a half, it's bigger than the normal 1's. I'm thinking wtf, after what he did Friday, this is the last thing I'm expecting. So swim does part of it and calls me and tells me all about it (kidding).
A little while ago, I noticed I had a voice mail message that I didn't notice from earlier in the evening. It was my guy, and he said he just wanted me to know that it was not a half and "we're cool baby". I was kind of expecting the message, oops gave you the wrong one or something.
Anyway, my question is, WTF is up? Do I just accept this and not think about it, or is something strange going on? I don't know if he thinks I've been seeing other people the last couple weeks and doesn't want me to, or what. I haven't gone to anyone else, he knows I was on vacation and doesn't know about my failed attempt on Friday. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining it just feels too good to be true??? Especially the way stuff's been going lately!
Anyone had this happen before?

And so again, I'm going to be up all night with way too much energy- but I'm not complaining!

slugbone
10-02-2006, 10:34 PM
something strange is going on. we are cool baby sounds like he wants more and this was his gesture to say later on that you owe him "something extra".

maybe i'm just thinking in the negative, but that story gave me some bad vibes that next time he is gonna ask for something you may not be ready to give him. not trying to put a bug in your brain but somethin to think about.

CUBErt
10-02-2006, 10:38 PM
Lol I was gonna say the same thing as slugbone, but it could just be straight business and "we're cool baby" is just more smooth salesman talk. I mean, who are u gonna go to if given a choice? Probably this guy

Blind Melon
10-02-2006, 10:38 PM
Yeah. It sounds like he may have messed up and then decided he didn't mind, is just re-inforcing the fact that he wants you as a customer.... OR what I really think is YOU are gonna owe HIM a favor pretty soon. who knows what goes on in the mind of a dope-dealer, and enjoy your good luck while it lasts. (which will hopefully be indefinitely)

vaxn8
10-02-2006, 11:00 PM
I had the same thought on his baby comment, but wasn't sure if I was reading too much into it or not. He does talk like that to me occasionally, it was the hanging out talking that made me think twice about it. Also, while we were sitting there, a mentally impaired (not sure if it was boy or girl) kid came up trying to sell us candy. He had packs of M&M's for a buck.

At first he said one, but only had a $5 and this was confusing the kid, so he said ok give me 3 m&m's and 2$, kid still confused, so he says ok 5. Just surprsised me to see him buying candy to help a kid's church, it was kind of funny to watch. Kind of like if you could see your connect at thanksgiving dinner or doing something crazy that you don't imagine them doing but they probably do, ya know????

Levity
10-02-2006, 11:01 PM
As a former high school and college weed dealer tells me, he used to hook people up extra if he wanted to keep them happy. It's that special dealer magic that makes an eighth feel like a quarter bag.

One of three possibilities...
He likes you and wants to keep you around.
He wants something from you in the future.
He thinks the dope he's giving you is shit and that he's coming out ahead.

Stay on top, and think like a dealer.
It's just a game.

slugbone
10-02-2006, 11:08 PM
As a former high school and college weed dealer tells me, he used to hook people up extra if he wanted to keep them happy. It's that special dealer magic that makes an eighth feel like a quarter bag.

One of three possibilities...
He likes you and wants to keep you around.
He wants something from you in the future.
He thinks the dope he's giving you is shit and that he's coming out ahead.

Stay on top, and think like a dealer.
It's just a game.

levity makes some pretty good fukking points there. the more i think about it the more i believe that your dealer dude wants a little piece of pie and being nice to handicapped kids and giving you a little extra while he chats it up with you will score points.

and more ominously, he may think the next time you hook up from him that you are going to OWE him something special. which can be a pretty goddamn dangerous situation when he's your dealer and there may or may not be many other options for you to score.

of course my drug addled paranoid mind works that way but be careful nonetheless next contact is my unsolicited advice, fellow opiophile.

Levity
10-02-2006, 11:21 PM
I'm actually sitting here with my ex-weed dealer friend.

His advice is to stack some cash back in case he wants to hit you up for green.
More likely (assuming he is trying to get one in on you) my friend says he might try to get you to mule for him, loan/get him a car, drive or back him up him somewhere none-to-friendly, or even get him to sling weight on his behalf.

Just be prepared...

Of course, you can always chat the guy up, "Thanks for hooking me extra up the past few times. Keeping me happy. You sure I can't help you out some way?"

The scratching hand helps the itchy back, after all...

vaxn8
10-02-2006, 11:45 PM
Good ideas Lev and ex-dope guy, think I may put away a little $ just in case.

I did text him to tell him I got his message and said thanks, I really feel like I should write the guy a thank you note, that's better than any xmas present I've ever received:D ! I also told him that I was off by $1, realized when I got home that I had an extra one that should have been his. Got the same line, we cool baby.

I do know he's got wheels, and i don't think he'd want to borrow $ from me. He had a huge stack when he was buying candy. Maybe just a nice guy or keeping business. If for business, it works. I do trust him because I had one time where it was pretty cut. When he gets something new in, he'll call and tell me he wants to know what i think. The time it was bad, he replaced it, I was not expecting that either. Also had a time where he was out of town and i had to meet a friend of his. His friend gave me 2 instead of 3, and when he got back to town he called to check on how it was and I told him about the 2, and he brought an extra the next time.

Also tonight, I think I thought more about it because he had on a nice like dress shirt, and he's normally more of a football jersey type guy, or some type of running suit. Maybe he's moving up!

Levity
10-02-2006, 11:54 PM
Good ideas Lev and ex-dope guy, think I may put away a little $ just in case.

I did text him to tell him I got his message and said thanks, I really feel like I should write the guy a thank you note, that's better than any xmas present I've ever received:D ! I also told him that I was off by $1, realized when I got home that I had an extra one that should have been his. Got the same line, we cool baby.

I do know he's got wheels, and i don't think he'd want to borrow $ from me. He had a huge stack when he was buying candy. Maybe just a nice guy or keeping business. If for business, it works. I do trust him because I had one time where it was pretty cut. When he gets something new in, he'll call and tell me he wants to know what i think. The time it was bad, he replaced it, I was not expecting that either. Also had a time where he was out of town and i had to meet a friend of his. His friend gave me 2 instead of 3, and when he got back to town he called to check on how it was and I told him about the 2, and he brought an extra the next time.

Also tonight, I think I thought more about it because he had on a nice like dress shirt, and he's normally more of a football jersey type guy, or some type of running suit. Maybe he's moving up!

You may have just found the rare breed of drug dealer who is also a good businessmn and even better person. I'd say stay on his good side and if he's moving up, be sure he takes you with him.

Powdered Love
10-02-2006, 11:57 PM
If he's hooking you up extra every now and then, or correcting wronged exchanges, he's being a good dealer...

If he's dressing nicely while calling you baby and paying for your meal... it's a date. ;)

devilsdrug
10-03-2006, 12:37 AM
he wants to know things like only ur hairdresser knows for sure , im takin bets

vaxn8
10-03-2006, 12:45 AM
Hmm things only my hair dresser would know? I think that would be limited to the real color of my hair, and number of grey ones:D I don't know what it is about the stuff i'm getting this week, but at this rate, I'm never gonna sleep again, but ya know for some reason, I don't care all that much. Tomorrow night's going to be a different story (or actually later today) Holy Shit, it's almost 3, I have to get up in an hour. I figured it out, both me and my guy are both going insane. At least I can blame mine on getting hit over the head by my cell phone robber Friday.:D

dorje
10-03-2006, 04:53 AM
He is a guy -he wants to nail you. Is he hooked up with a women right now ? She'll be gunning for you soon. Be careful.Enjoy. DD and I are betting it's a sexual thang.

vaxn8
10-03-2006, 04:57 AM
I've got no clue if he's got a woman or not. I hope if he does, that she's not armed if that's the case!

Could also be maybe he's just converting or reforming. He was dressed up because he went to church with the family last night, then he's out later that evening helping slow children and the narcotically stock-challenged:D

dorje
10-03-2006, 07:17 AM
He is a male not a monk. He wants to nail you. Or turn you out. Or both. Anyhow, just tell his woman you have converted and are now Amish. No fooling around outside of marriage.

devilsdrug
10-03-2006, 07:31 AM
yes dory and i have both seen this ploy before even used myself prolly it the slooooow play nice guy hustle routine , my advice use it dont abuse or it gets ugly

Coddfish
10-03-2006, 07:36 AM
just a thought: a few of the the dealers I knew who wanted to "move up" picked a couple of their best customers to be the new dealers. They then cut off everyone else a la "I'm out of that shit, don't ever call me. Call these people instead." They gave the numbers of the preferred customers out, and those people were then the dealers. Could he be checking you out to be a dealer? Are you a really good customer? This probably isn't it. Like I say, just a thought.

dorje
10-03-2006, 07:48 AM
Listen to DD girl. He is right. Oldest hustle in the book. I'll treat you right. Like my new shirt ? You can stay at my place. Want some dope? Need a new dress ? You owe me. The problem with being strung out is it means we are vulnerable. I have often thought Why bother with all this torture stuff. Just get Mr. Osama strung out. He will be in the market place at dawn looking for a little opium and spill the secrets of Al-Queada for a few Dilaudids.

antony
10-03-2006, 08:42 AM
I call girls sweetheart, dollface, everything. and it doesn't necessarily mean I want to sleep with them. Maybe later, but, thats just general conditioning. Just making them comfortable.

I personally think he feels bad that you got a bash on the head, and got your cell phone stolen, just to pay him back.

vaxn8
10-03-2006, 08:45 AM
More good things to be watching out for. I don't think he's thinking I could switch careers to hooker though, he knows i'm a scientist, so you'd think it would be kind of obvious i'm not looking for that kind of work- at least I'd hope so!

I have been a good customer for him and he knows I only deal with him. Can't imagine who he'd think I'd sell to though, that would actually be kind of funny where I work! I'm sure there are others around here, but I doubt very many or at least they're hard to find among the sci dorks!

hero 1
10-03-2006, 08:46 AM
Hate to be sexist here van but I gotta go with the guys the only reason a dealler wants to give out free dope is cause he wants back and i mean some back. any way play him if he is dumb enough to let his dingy get in the way of biz then play on

nick
10-03-2006, 08:49 AM
There are no free lunches in this life.I'm with DD and Dorje.There is normally enough custom that dealers don't have to give freebies no matter how good a customer.
Question is,what do you do if he does want "more"?
Keep us posted .

dorje
10-03-2006, 08:50 AM
See there are scientist hookers that got played by some smoothie. Wasn't that famous organic chemist on the stroll for awhile j/k

nick
10-03-2006, 08:55 AM
Just thought my last post could be misconstrued.What I meant,was if this guy is a good hook and at present your go to guy,then if he wants "more "you're going to have to play it cool or risk losing him.
P.S. you could tell him you're gay or tell him you just want to be friends.

vaxn8
10-03-2006, 08:56 AM
Good question Nick, I don't have a clue what the answer would be. I'm just trying to figure out if that's what he's thinking, how exactly does he think he's going to collect? The next meet will at least be interesting, that's for sure!

I do agree with the no free lunches though, it's pretty rare! Maybe as rare as hooker scientists???

antony
10-03-2006, 09:00 AM
Maybe as rare as hooker scientists???

Two words for ya vax. Tabatha Jordan. Do a search on her. I can tell ya she was a scientist, before the DD cups came along.

dorje
10-03-2006, 09:36 AM
Anthony- You call them sweetie but I bet you don't front them a gram or maybe I'm misjudging the degree of chivalry left in this world. Madame, could you use some free heroin? I see.. we'll my man will visit you at Le Roi's place. (or is that Leroy/)

antony
10-03-2006, 09:40 AM
Anthony- You call them sweetie but I bet you don't front them a gram or maybe I'm misjudging the degree of chivalry left in this world. Madame, could you use some free heroin? I see.. we'll my man will visit you at Le Roi's place. (or is that Leroy/)

well, I've never been one for selling certain things, but in my world, I may not be eager to get into anything with her as of right now, but it's a way of keeping things on ice. Or good customer service, which is what I suspect.

vaxn8
10-03-2006, 09:58 AM
Ant- saw the pic and shut the window- at work but is she really an ex-scientist? Wow, good for her, probably making the big $ now!

With the first free g, I took it as appreciation for paying him back (I owed him for 2 and was buying one). With the second half, that's where I started to wonder about it. If it was just that first time, I wouldn't have thought about it. But if this is chivalry, I'll take it anyday:D !

dorje
10-03-2006, 10:06 AM
Anyhow- good luck with next meet. I have had a front on my birthday but Franki was a lesbian and I knew it wasn't a comeon.Just BZness. However, I will maintain my cynical edge despite protestions of chivalry from other corners.

nick
10-03-2006, 10:16 AM
Ant- saw the pic and shut the window- at work but is she really an ex-scientist? Wow, good for her, probably making the big $ now!

With the first free g, I took it as appreciation for paying him back (I owed him for 2 and was buying one). With the second half, that's where I started to wonder about it. If it was just that first time, I wouldn't have thought about it. But if this is chivalry, I'll take it anyday:D !
If it is chivalry in our world it's a first and possibly the exception that proves the rule and as I say the rule is no free lunches.I hope I'm wrong-it wouldn't be the first time.

antony
10-03-2006, 10:35 AM
If it is chivalry in our world it's a first and possibly the exception that proves the rule and as I say the rule is no free lunches.I hope I'm wrong-it wouldn't be the first time.

One of my fav. quotes. I dunno if he's looking to pimp, but maybe he geniunely likes you.

nick
10-03-2006, 10:39 AM
If he knows you're in good employment I doubt he's looking to pimp you out.He probably just likes you.I mean even dealers fall in love.So they say.

jab
10-04-2006, 12:33 PM
I have a silly idea.. Aks him.

Hey man, you've been hooking me up pretty straight, but am I gonna end up owing you at some point?

Either way, play it safe, and be cool back. Maybe next time you pay him a bit more, say you owe $150, drop him $160. Say something to the effect of "I've only got 20s, but you've been cool, so we'll figure it out later". Then he's on equal ground.

But I'm with the other knuckle-draggers.. I think he's setting you up for a quicky.

vaxn8
10-04-2006, 01:32 PM
Ya know Jab, that's not a bad idea, I hadn't even thought of it (asking him). I have given him more $ than i had to before. When I borrowed the 2gs and paid him $100 extra. Partly so I don't do it frequently, not a habit i want to get into.

I'll find out tongiht, I'm going to meet him later. I just wish it was now, I dont want to work and i just want to go home and have everyone leave me alone (at least my coworkers).

dorje
10-04-2006, 02:08 PM
Tell coworkers you just smashed the Ebola slide under the microscope by lowering the lens to fast. They will panic and leave. Your home free. Or alternately, spray area with
carbolic acid, immediately shout "poison...gasp..Gas Attack...Al Queda" It should do the job. Good Luck ,tonight. LOL

vaxn8
10-04-2006, 02:12 PM
Not a bad idea! I actually do work with level 3 viruses where I am now. I used to work with 4's at my last job (ebola's a 4). They actually wouldn't let me in that room with the virus i work with, doesn't get to leave the level 3 lab. Tempting tho! I just need to get out of here before i strangle someone who probably doesn't deserve it. It's just frustrating answering the same questions over and over and over, GRRRRRRRRRRR! I just need a nap and a nice little shot and i'll be just fine!

dorje
10-04-2006, 02:15 PM
Understood. I loved virology. I actually was given a tie with a photomicrograph of Ebola which I wear at particular boring meetings. It's my up yours to the normal, straight, tool shed (see other threads), aggravating crowd. You can make it..Remember tonight.

vaxn8
10-04-2006, 02:19 PM
Sounds like a really cool tie! I've seen the stuffed animals they make of viruses but never a tie. I love working with them, almost as much as I loved doing opi research. Staying in opi research would have been hazardous to my health and freedom though, so 'll stick with the bugs.

I'll make it, I just have to wait for my boss to leave and try and talk my guy into making it a little earlier. Can't use the scope excuse anymore today, I spent most of the day down there until 2 guys came in to use another scope and were talking too much!

HistoryofMadness
10-04-2006, 02:28 PM
just going on personal experience he wants to keep you as a customer, and that's that. i had several dealers for a while, when i had a great job, and they actually would ask me (and trust my answer) about deals I might be getting from someone else. of course they were all cousins, and they all carried weapons, so I stayed straight.

but there was always one of them willing to make a good bulk deal to keep me with them.. inevitably they would get too high on the money, start acting like a thug dealer, and I'd just change to another one.

damn, I miss those days.

madnesscult
10-04-2006, 02:40 PM
if you could see your connect at thanksgiving dinner or doing something crazy that you don't imagine them doing but they probably do, ya know????

My guy doesn't have a car, so I have to go and meet him wherever he happens to be at that time (walmart, the grocery store, the beach, the mall). Anyway, one day I call him up and he says "Eh, it's my daughter's birthday. Meet me in the Chuck E Cheese". So I went down there, walked up to the table where he was sitting with his whole family and everything. It was really odd. We would make jokes about him - "Eh, I'm getting married. Meet me in the church." or "Eh, I'm having sex, meet me in the vagina".

HistoryofMadness
10-04-2006, 02:48 PM
My guy doesn't have a car, so I have to go and meet him wherever he happens to be at that time (walmart, the grocery store, the beach, the mall). Anyway, one day I call him up and he says "Eh, it's my daughter's birthday. Meet me in the Chuck E Cheese". So I went down there, walked up to the table where he was sitting with his whole family and everything. It was really odd. We would make jokes about him - "Eh, I'm getting married. Meet me in the church." or "Eh, I'm having sex, meet me in the vagina".

haha that's hilarious, I used to have to meet my guy after picking up his kids from school, at the grocery store, renting fucking movies... hell I even met him at a family bbq once, and he fucking hooked me up with some ribs on top of the 'nec! what a fucking guy!

anyway, the worst was one guy i had for all of maybe 1 month, who's girlfriend didn't know he was dealing, wanting to know why me and a few other 'white boys' kept showing up in their drive way acting all nervous and shit. . .

vaxn8
10-04-2006, 03:02 PM
That's a good story madness-c! That's pretty funny! I can't even picture mine at a chucky cheese!

good advice HoM, that was my initial thought, i have been good to him. HE scared me a little when he hung out and talked for so long and then when he was buying candy to help a church!

LayinLow
10-04-2006, 03:59 PM
That's a good story madness-c! That's pretty funny! I can't even picture mine at a chucky cheese!

good advice HoM, that was my initial thought, i have been good to him. HE scared me a little when he hung out and talked for so long and then when he was buying candy to help a church!
He was probably just lonely that night/day and felt like talking to someone for awhile. After reading all of this it seems he wants to be friends too, not just your 'dealer' Friends as in friends, not a friend with benefits.

devilsdrug
10-04-2006, 05:04 PM
im still open to bets , this isnt your altar boy

dorje
10-04-2006, 05:41 PM
I agree DD. The odds are this guy is being very friendly for a reason. This is just self awareness for us alley cats, working the street. We will see soon. Take care.

CUBErt
10-04-2006, 06:25 PM
im still open to bets , this isnt your altar boy

hahaha, well played.

I'm curious to see how this turns out.

vaxn8
10-05-2006, 02:53 AM
OK, I have 2 days, well less now to go to my doc's appointment. My doc is leaving, so it's probably my last appt with him. I had planned on doing this last week with pods, but got lucky and well you all know what happened. So this morning, I'm making tea and just not getting anywhere. It's taking all I have to drag my ass out of bed and stand on my foot. I realize, after what I brewed this AM, that I've got 8 pods, not enough to work a long day Thursday and make it until Friday afternoon.

So, I leave a message before I leave for work. Tell my guy, I just need a half, but can't afford it until the 15th, asked him what he could do. I get a text around noon, he says meet me at 5:30. I'm kind of thinking, what? So that must mean a yes to my half. I decide to call, make sure he unstood my message. He asks if half is enough- he knows i supplement pain scripts. I asked how it was, if it was the same, he said no it's new, but no one's tried it yet. He says, don't worry, I'll take care of you baby, meet at 6. OK, I go back to work, fuck around with the microscope most of the afternoon and answer dumb questions. I finally am out of patience and leave a little early to get to the place. I get there at 5:40 and call and let him know I'm there.

I don't like hanging out at this train stop for long periods of time. It's on my way home, but when I get off there, I'm usually the only white female and I kind of stick out! I sit and start reading my book, knowing it will at least be 6:10 before he gets there. At 6, he calls, says he's running late, going to be 6:30. I decide to walk over to the mall and try to distract myself. I can't really complain about tardiness, when he's coming out no charge, ya know? I circle the mall, don't feel like shopping, just want to get home and get to bed.

He finally gets there, 6:40 one hour late, apologizes and sits down again. He was asking about the guy I know from here and if I'd found anything out, asks some questions about work and says I brought ya 2 because I was so late. I'm like WTF! He says, just take care of the 1, the seconds on me. I think my jaw was hanging open at that point. So, off I go, back on the train.

This stuff he's got now is way different than anything I've ever seen from him. It looks the same, smells the same, but wow best stuff i've seen in MD! I haven't had anything hit me that hard in a long time. I had just tried a fairly small piece for me, got it in and damn! I wasn't planning on doing very much because I had to run to the grocery store and wanted to sleep tonight. I knew I'd be up all night if I did too much.

First, instant nod. I'm rinsing my filter and keep going out and coming back. The whole thing ends up taking a good 40 minutes. I pull the needle, stand up and whoa I'm not so sure I should be walking or driving. I sit back down for awhile, still pretty in and out. Finally go to the store. If it would have been any farther than across my parking lot and street, I would not have driven anywhere. I get home and by then am back wide awake, like I have been most of this week!

Now, it's almost time for work again, haven't slept, but I got a good supply and I'll make it until Friday. Still don't have a clue what's going on, and frankly I think my brain is beyond thinking much about it! The saga continues! :D

dorje
10-05-2006, 03:54 AM
Glad you got over. I don't know. If trend continues your going to have a gorilla on your back and a dealer in your bed. Put on Steve Vai for background. The guy sounds interested to me but DD and I are betting one way and others the other-he just a nice guy. Maybe he has a shitload of dope just , you know a warehouse and doesn't care about money. He already made lot's of money. He's just in it for the social contact. Big house, good wine, no ties gives extra bags after he goes to Church where they talk about giving. You know a really sweet guy, Listen, I know this bridge in New York I can get you for really cheap but you have to act quick. I only tell you this cause I'm such a nice guy. Hell I'll give you the damn thing. It's big but beautiful. Here that train....

nick
10-05-2006, 04:22 AM
Hell ,you and DD are not alone.As Jab says ask him straight out,but be prepared for ALL answers you can imagine him giving.One problem,if you have this conversation the extra suger may dry up
I really hope DD,Dorje and I are wrong,it would reaffirm my faith in human nature. .

HistoryofMadness
10-05-2006, 09:00 AM
no one said he was being a 'nice guy' - i think he's being a smart dealer, getting the habit up, establishing a long-term client, with money, etc.

anyone ever sold and remember the fucking herd of $10, $20, and $50 street sales that jack the odds of getting popped WAY up?

not nice, maybe just smart. I mean, I'm not saying he wouldn't take it if it was offered, I'm just saying that I don't think its the only reason.

hopefully the cost stays manageable and the issues never comes up, right?

nick
10-05-2006, 09:11 AM
no one said he was being a 'nice guy' - i think he's being a smart dealer, getting the habit up, establishing a long-term client, with money, etc.

anyone ever sold and remember the fucking herd of $10, $20, and $50 street sales that jack the odds of getting popped WAY up?

not nice, maybe just smart. I mean, I'm not saying he wouldn't take it if it was offered, I'm just saying that I don't think its the only reason.

hopefully the cost stays manageable and the issues never comes up, right?
Sounds to me like Vaxn8 is already a good customer,but he could want an even better customer I guess.Anything is possible,just somethings are more likely than others.Tempus revelat omni.

HistoryofMadness
10-05-2006, 09:21 AM
Sounds to me like Vaxn8 is already a good customer,but he could want an even better customer I guess.Anything is possible,just somethings are more likely than others.Tempus revelat omni.

good point, true, true, and I'm not the best person to determine this type of thing, 'cause I'm a guy, and I've never really spent an inordinate amount of time with dealers... galleries, yes, and maybe a little footing it here and there, but... never really been one to think too far into the actions of dealers, except maybe when I need a front or something. . .

antony
10-05-2006, 11:02 AM
Tempus revelat omni.

snap! the englishman can speak latin. I guess caveat emptor would def. apply to this thread as well.

nick
10-05-2006, 12:40 PM
snap! the englishman can speak latin. I guess caveat emptor would def. apply to this thread as well.
Nice Antony.Many rep points for being funny in a dead language.Now make me laugth in Runic.

hero 1
10-05-2006, 12:40 PM
Im betting this guy is a saint shit. I know what I said befor but I think he would have made his intentions known by now. I have had a few dealers who know what its like to be sick. when I make deals with people I allways try to make em happy. so matbe he is on the up and up. I got girl up here
that gets pharms all the time and she calls every few days just to make sure Im not sick and I know she is just being nice. cause I am one ugly mother fucker. the lord Jesus christ said love thyneighbor as you love thy self. So I gonna change my oppinion on this and say hes just lookin out for ya and keepin his costumer happy

antony
10-05-2006, 01:13 PM
Nice Antony.Many rep points for being funny in a dead language.Now make me laugth in Runic.

wish I could, but my keyboard doesn't seem to have a eho, or fehc key.

nick
10-05-2006, 01:29 PM
wish I could, but my keyboard doesn't seem to have a eho, or fehc key.
Ok fair enough.how about esperanto?

vaxn8
10-05-2006, 01:36 PM
Glad you got over. I don't know. If trend continues your going to have a gorilla on your back and a dealer in your bed. Put on Steve Vai for background. The guy sounds interested to me but DD and I are betting one way and others the other-he just a nice guy. Maybe he has a shitload of dope just , you know a warehouse and doesn't care about money. He already made lot's of money. He's just in it for the social contact. Big house, good wine, no ties gives extra bags after he goes to Church where they talk about giving. You know a really sweet guy, Listen, I know this bridge in New York I can get you for really cheap but you have to act quick. I only tell you this cause I'm such a nice guy. Hell I'll give you the damn thing. It's big but beautiful. Here that train....

I hope he's got a big warehouse somewhere, that would be pretty cool! And on that bridge, can I pick the color and specify number of lanes ;)

Hell ,you and DD are not alone.As Jab says ask him straight out,but be prepared for ALL answers you can imagine him giving.One problem,if you have this conversation the extra suger may dry up
I really hope DD,Dorje and I are wrong,it would reaffirm my faith in human nature. .

I did forget to ask last night, was tired and just wanted to get out of there by the time he got there last night. I did let him know that his new stuff was really good, actually I think the stuff he had last night was the best I've bought in this city so far. I've never had anything hit me that hard and it lasts! When I felt how it hit, I was wondering if there wasn't fent or something short acting in there, but it lasts way, way too long for that. I waited 14 hours inbetween my last nights dose and this AM and I never wait that long. I'm usually trying to make myself wait a little longer to make it to 8 hours.

antony
10-05-2006, 01:37 PM
Ok fair enough.how about esperanto?

I don't deal with languages created by ophthalmologists. Only periodontists.

it sounds like a language twins make up.

HistoryofMadness
10-05-2006, 01:41 PM
I did forget to ask last night, was tired and just wanted to get out of there by the time he got there last night. I did let him know that his new stuff was really good, actually I think the stuff he had last night was the best I've bought in this city so far. I've never had anything hit me that hard and it lasts! When I felt how it hit, I was wondering if there wasn't fent or something short acting in there, but it lasts way, way too long for that. I waited 14 hours inbetween my last nights dose and this AM and I never wait that long. I'm usually trying to make myself wait a little longer to make it to 8 hours.

hell, leave it alone is what I say. its his loss, its not like you guys made an agreement. as long as you act completely offended if it ever comes up (or better yet, keep paid up so it doesn't come up) then its cool.

stay safe, of course, and try to meet him in public unless you're with a group... that's kind of a given for safety anyway, though... other than that, can't see how it would have to come up unless you ask... then aren't you taking the risk of killing off a good thing?

nick
10-05-2006, 01:45 PM
hell, leave it alone is what I say. its his loss, its not like you guys made an agreement. as long as you act completely offended if it ever comes up (or better yet, keep paid up so it doesn't come up) then its cool.

stay safe, of course, and try to meet him in public unless you're with a group... that's kind of a given for safety anyway, though... other than that, can't see how it would have to come up unless you ask... then aren't you taking the risk of killing off a good thing?
Sure,this is exactly how I'd play it.Good luck Vaxn8 and take care.

candy
10-05-2006, 03:25 PM
If it were me, I would be a bit cautious.
Every now and then to throw in a bit for nothing is one thing. I have known of a few who would throw in a 1/4 or 1/2 for being late, but 1.
Regardless of what he is selling, he is still a guy and he has something you want, even if you pay for it. Hell, who are you going to call when your feeling sick have no script. I would take the suggestion of keeping it as public as you possibly can in a situation like this.

Good luck. Just a suggestion. I always carry pepper spray on my keychain. Actually it's bear spray I bought in a camping supply store, but same thing and I wouldn't hesistate to use it if I had to! Just a bit of extra protection for any situation in your in!

vaxn8
10-05-2006, 05:57 PM
I do always meet him in public places. I used to drive over to where he is once in awhile, but I didn't like doing that. When he was running late, I hate sitting there, it's obvious what I'm doing so I haven't been doing that lately. We usually meet at a train station now, it's a station that has a lot of bus routes leaving and a shopping mall, so there's always lots of traffic and I feel ok there.

I've been thinking about carrying spray since my phone got taken last week. I've always heard to get the bear stuff like a couple of you said, it's probably not a bad idea. I'm still looking pretty scary from that, my eye is a million shades of green and purple, now getting a little yellow in for fall. Candy, it's been pretty weird because he's doubled it 3 times in a row now. The first time he did 2g for 2, then did 1 for a half, then last night 2 again.

It will be awhile before I see him again. I'm going back to scripts tomorrow and he's going out of town. Probably good to let it go and cool down for awhile and see what happens.

slugbone
10-05-2006, 06:04 PM
I do always meet him in public places. I used to drive over to where he is once in awhile, but I didn't like doing that. When he was running late, I hate sitting there, it's obvious what I'm doing so I haven't been doing that lately. We usually meet at a train station now, it's a station that has a lot of bus routes leaving and a shopping mall, so there's always lots of traffic and I feel ok there.

I've been thinking about carrying spray since my phone got taken last week. I've always heard to get the bear stuff like a couple of you said, it's probably not a bad idea. I'm still looking pretty scary from that, my eye is a million shades of green and purple, now getting a little yellow in for fall. Candy, it's been pretty weird because he's doubled it 3 times in a row now. The first time he did 2g for 2, then did 1 for a half, then last night 2 again.

It will be awhile before I see him again. I'm going back to scripts tomorrow and he's going out of town. Probably good to let it go and cool down for awhile and see what happens.

dorje made a pretty fukking profound statement about the gorilla on your back, and if you don't have a backup source for the smack then whadda ya going to do when you NEED some shit and he starts asking for more than money. opiates make folks do some crazy stuff but jezus isn't that the most "no shit" statement of all time on this board....

orangejuice
10-05-2006, 06:20 PM
Yeah, vax, i think some mace for you would be a good idea, if not that keep knife, or a pocket sized elephant gun, whatever floats your boat :) Stay safe though. Keep yourselve protected at all costs.
One thing id like to say here,it may not be exactly on subject but heres what i like to do. If i have a dealer, i try my damndest to get in good with him. My motto is "if you take care of me, ill take care of you" I tell some of a few trusted connects that. Every once in a while, pay them a few bucks extra for gas, or a tip or whatever. Dunno if anyone else does this or think its a stupid idea, but i think its a good one. Whenever i have extra, every once in a while, after the exchange of money and goods, i'll slip him or her an extra "for your troubles". Always ask em if they need gas money etc. I kno the ones that will take me for granted, and avoid that with them though. Just a thought.

dorje
10-05-2006, 06:32 PM
Load that elephant gun with etorphine. There claiming iI'm a Catholic schoopl girl and OJ is not a man but they lie. Something tells me there more to this than bzness but hey like Juice says I used to play chess with my connect and purposefully lose just to grease the skids. Be cool, girl. Load that syringe with etorphine

CUBErt
10-06-2006, 04:37 AM
Vax thats probably good that you're not gonna see him for a bit, and let things chill... unless of course the time away makes him pine for you even more and solidifies his feelings of love for you.

But until he starts doing weirder things, I'd just keep rollin' with it. Say thank you, you appreciate it alot... maybe next time it happens offer to pay more and say that you can't accept these any more without paying him a bit extra. See how he responds to that, and it might lead him to reveal (directly or indirectly) why he is being so generous in the first place

Ragdoll
10-06-2006, 02:01 PM
I hate to sound paranoid or like I don't think there are nice people out there in the world, but.... take care of yourself, dude and don't forget....never trust a landlord, a business owner, or a dealer. JME (that's Just My Experience, 'cause if they're being nice, they have something up their sleeve). :cool:

chemboy7
10-07-2006, 10:30 AM
Free dope is hard to turn down. I honestly don't know what to make of it all; what his intentions are... probably not good anyways. It wouldn't deter me from picking up those fat bags though, I'd just go armed. I'm not necessarily saying you should take a gun (they aint for everybody and they can get you into some trouble, esspecially after you hook) but a taser to the balls would quench any unwanted desire he had for you pretty quickly, and you can get a cheap taser for like $35-40... I'd say that's worth it with all the freebies you've been getting. Of course it goes without saying that after you toast his berries the connections lost so it probably wouldn't be bad advise to start looking for a back up source while the getting is still good.

cronosaegis
10-07-2006, 02:10 PM
Mark my words, he's after jellyroll. When it comes right down to it, he's going to expect payback, and not a brushoff. You're a professional, so tell him that you want to keep a professional relationship with him. No more free shit, no more fronting.

Otherwise, you're going to live that scene in Traffic where Erika Christensen "trades-out" for a shot.

Hey, fuck me, maybe I'm wrong. But I doubt it.

candy
10-10-2006, 09:36 AM
Well vanx, maybe it is best to hang back for awhile and see what happens. I always kept my transactions very business like and tried to stay away from small talk. Being a woman makes it tough, especially when your alone. I had to take a self defense class when I started doing outreach work. I am not sure if I could defend myself from some angry male, but I would give him one hell of a fight and I always carry the bear spray as I said. It is just a small tube that goes on your key chain, but it would work to maybe put some space between us.

I think once you start engaging in small talk and making it more friendly, the wrong message goes out. Or they take it the wrong way. I myself kept the transactions short and always met in public, never giving any personal info out at all.

Just be careful and get yourself some pepper spray. Free H is great, but I would rather go through some w/d than to be raped or worse.

kyuss
10-10-2006, 10:00 AM
It's pretty much
all been said
please be careful Vax

blackdog
10-10-2006, 11:12 PM
cop and go, no time fer any funnie bizzness

madnesscult
10-22-2006, 05:17 PM
He was probably just lonely that night/day and felt like talking to someone for awhile. After reading all of this it seems he wants to be friends too, not just your 'dealer' Friends as in friends, not a friend with benefits.

I have a friend that goes to the same dealer as I do, and since he's pretty much the only customer the guy has that speaks Spanish (he's not terribly fluent in English and is sometimes hard to understand) apparently every time my friend meets him the dealer talks his ear off. He's said that there have been times where it's hard to get out the guy out of his car because he just wants to keep talking - bitching about customers, his girlfriend, kids, etc...

ZodiacKiller
10-22-2006, 05:49 PM
I'm coming to this thread pretty late in the game, Vax, due to my entended absense there for a while, and just about everything that can be said has been said on the subject. However, if you want my two-cents-worth, something just seems a little creepy about the whole thing. Don't look that gift horse in the mouth, but definitely exercise some caution.


ZK

BizzyBone
10-22-2006, 07:20 PM
when i go to my dealer sometimes i have all 20's and i go head and tell him not to worry bout the extra dollars or ever how much extraAnd he knows my step father and my grandpa and grandma and he always asking how there doing and stuff...hes told me how to fix my cars and shit whenever i had one something going wrong wit itbut he dont do fronts at all

madnesscult
10-22-2006, 07:59 PM
That sucks Bizzy...our guy will usually front us stuff, but we only ever ask when it's really an emergency, so it's not that often. And he knows we're good for it, so he's usually cool about it. He just doesn't like to front more than a 1/2 gram, which is lame sometimes.

blackdog
10-22-2006, 08:07 PM
no fronting! it's absolutely for your own good.i mean who wants ta buy something you took home last week????that really sucks!!

antony
10-23-2006, 08:27 AM
no fronting! it's absolutely for your own good.i mean who wants ta buy something you took home last week????that really sucks!!

It's as convienent as shit, but, very true, no one likes picking up the tab for a party after everyone's left.

nick
10-23-2006, 10:52 AM
It's as convienent as shit, but, very true, no one likes picking up the tab for a party after everyone's left.
This is true,but it's better than being sick and broke and having your "man" refuse credit.

antony
10-23-2006, 11:07 AM
^^^Agreed. Whats worse, is when guys never offer a credit line. Ever. I've had guys that I've purchased loads off of them, and would never come through for a favor. Even for a day.

CUBErt
10-23-2006, 12:34 PM
Yea I was lucky to be good personal friends with my main hookup. He would let us front all sorts of shit, or use credit cards to buy him electronics/clothing of equal value to the dope we wanted to purchase. Good times.

madnesscult
10-23-2006, 12:44 PM
That was one of the main reasons I started at a methadone clinic a while back: dealers don't take credit cards!

Hammilton
10-23-2006, 01:10 PM
when i used to buy pot I'd usually get an extra gram or two. I never understood it.

I figgered it out one day. I smoke so little pot they figure if they give me a little extra, I'll be more likely to use it quicker (I think I have a 8th from 5 months ago).

That or they look at me as the handicapped kid, and I don't want to face that fear. lol

nick
10-24-2006, 06:00 AM
^^^Agreed. Whats worse, is when guys never offer a credit line. Ever. I've had guys that I've purchased loads off of them, and would never come through for a favor. Even for a day.
Goddam dealers can't live with them,can't live without them.Dealing is more of a habit than using.

OpieContin
10-24-2006, 06:55 AM
^^^Agreed. Whats worse, is when guys never offer a credit line. Ever. I've had guys that I've purchased loads off of them, and would never come through for a favor. Even for a day.

Sounds just like my guy. Been using him since last X-mas and "front" is not in his vocabulary. One thing though - he is almost always available and the dope-wait-time is not too bad.


O.

antony
10-24-2006, 08:38 AM
Swim used to get pills from one guy, and they worked together, AND he gave swim a $500 credit line. Swim would put in a call one night, right when he was running out, the next morning, pills. Just when the w/ds were coming on and everything.

swim used to say "man, that was a scary couple of hours." Swim's sooo funny.

Just make sure to hand over the paycheck, you don't want him to turn you off when you're hurting.

madnesscult
10-24-2006, 01:15 PM
Swim used to get pills from one guy, and they worked together, AND he gave swim a $500 credit line. Swim would put in a call one night, right when he was running out, the next morning, pills. Just when the w/ds were coming on and everything.

swim used to say "man, that was a scary couple of hours." Swim's sooo funny.

Just make sure to hand over the paycheck, you don't want him to turn you off when you're hurting.

Definitely. I think the biggest reason our dealer will front us stuff is because we rarely ask him for it, and we always pay up within a reasonable amount of time.

vaxn8
10-24-2006, 04:02 PM
Totally wierd! I haven't been able to access this thread since the site came back up. I could pull it up when I logged out though, so I did that and hit reply, logged in and now I can see it! Cool, but that was wierd!

Just thought I'd update.... He was gone for a week or so and I've been pretty much living in the lab, so my cell is off most of the day. I had noticed that I was getting a few calls a day from him during this time, but no message so I ignored it.

Saturday AM, I got a text that said call me, so I texted back and told him I had just worked overnight and was still working and was exhausted and that i'd catch up with him Sunday. Sunday, I was being a vegetable because I seriously worked from like 10 AM Friday until 5 or 6 PM Saturday and was way, way, way tired and sore. He called late Sunday and just wanted to know how I was doing and what was up. That was pretty strange in my opinion, he knew I wasn't going to need anything until the end of the month, when I had $. I'm not quite comfortable with him fronting anything right now until I know why he is being so wierd. I think I did it once or twice with him, so I don't ask for it frequently and don't want to abuse it. But I'm pretty much in the same boat- don't have a clue what is going on with him, he's still acting odd, and a little too friendly for a dealer! Don't know if he's still being nice to retarted church children, haven't seen him in person since the last time (^I wrote about above)

nick
10-24-2006, 04:15 PM
I don't want to worry you Vaxn8,but the more I hear, the more I think he harbours impure thoughts for you.I never had a dealer ring me to socialise,even the ones I liked.Of course I could be maligning this fine dealer,but as I've said before and I'll say again;expect the worse and hope for the best.

antony
10-24-2006, 04:27 PM
No one has had a loser dealer? One that has no friends what so ever? Just because the guy sells you drugs, doesn't mean he thinks he's better than you. I got one that calls me up constantly, trying to turn me into something. And I doubt he's gay.

madnesscult
10-24-2006, 04:30 PM
I agree with nick...it sounds like he likes you. I've never ever had a dealer call me (without me calling them first), and the fact that he kept calling you is even more odd to me. With one exception, the only time I've gotten free drugs from a dealer is when he had a thing for me...

I suppose I'm somewhat mean: if a guy likes me, I'll let him give me drugs, buy me things/food, whatever, all the while pretending to go along with it until it's time for me to go home with my loot.

If that is the case (that he likes you) I'd say go on a date with him, collect your free dope, whatever, but explain that you're a very busy professional woman and don't have a whole lot of free time (and thus cannot hang around with him).

candy
10-24-2006, 04:31 PM
This is not hard to figure out. He wants more than just to be your friend. I never had this problem , but I always made my intentions very clear and never mixed it up with any small talk and when I went to meet him, I never dressed in anything that I would have bear skin in. It was always T-shirts and Levis and scrubs(but some men find that sexy). Seriously, it was strictly business and I kept every meeting down to a minute or so and never more.

The only time I ever got a call without paging first, was my guy letting me know I needed to get it now or wait until the next day.

You are going to either have to make it really clear to him that your not interested or find yourself someone else to deal with. He has something you want and at times may need and men in that position can be very persuasive.

Be careful!

vaxn8
10-24-2006, 05:11 PM
^That's really the feeling I was getting from the whole thing and why I've stayed away the last couple of weeks. It's definitely not the way I'm dressing though! It has always been jeans (with a labcoat if it's cold) or scrubs if i've been stuck in the lab overnight or doing surgeries. I will never be accused of dressing up for work!

He did have another customer that I knew (and used to be around here) and he did spend time asking about him and where he is- I didn't have a problem with that or think it was strange. The missing guy went from talking to him about once a week or so to totally off the radar. BTW for whoever is following that drama, he would still be mia. I was kind of hoping maybe he got put into treatment or something like that had happened, but now it's over a month and stil no word.

candy
10-24-2006, 07:40 PM
[quote=vaxn8;48262]^That's really the feeling I was getting from the whole thing and why I've stayed away the last couple of weeks. It's definitely not the way I'm dressing though! It has always been jeans (with a labcoat if it's cold) or scrubs if i've been stuck in the lab overnight or doing surgeries. I will never be accused of dressing up for work!

He did have another customer that I knew (and used to be around here) and he did spend time asking about him and where he is- I didn't have a problem with that or think it was strange. The missing guy went from talking to him about once a week or so to totally off the radar. BTW for whoever is following that drama, he would still be mia. I was kind of hoping maybe he got put into treatment or something like that had happened, but now it's over a month and stil no word.[/quote



Well, just be really careful if and when you do meet up with him. As far as his calling you and such, I really don't know what to say about that. You did say that you sent him a reply text and that should be fine. Just try to keep things very casual.
I was always a bit concerned of how I dressed in those situations. Being alone in a car with some huge man made me really cautious. Especially when I didn't know anything personal about this dude.
Just a funny little story....The 2 guys I used were brothers and both spoke mostly spanish and they both answered to the same name. I never could get it straight and neither was very interested in telling me which one was which. So, I just continued to call them the same name and dropped it. And they looked nothing alike either. One was really tall and muscular and the other one was much shorter and wider. But, they did claim to be brothers. Really didn't matter, did it. As long as I got what I wanted.
But being pretty petite and outweighed by a 100 pounds or more , I was always on guard.

Be careful girl and keep us posted!

vaxn8
10-24-2006, 08:18 PM
^That's hilarious candy! Did you deal with them for a long time? It always cracks me up with some of the names they come up with. I once dealt with an "associate" named Krispy or Krunchy, something like that.

I have switched to only meeting at a train/bus station pickup area. I got really uncomfortable driving, especially when he was running late. I totally stick out in his neighborhood and there was a crack guy always selling in the same area and he kept bugging me. After running into the same crack guy a couple times, I've only been doing the stations. One of them is at a mall, so if he's running late, I can at least run over there and it's not so obvious what I'm up to. The others have markets or other places nearby and there are always lots of people.

The first several times when I was always driving to him, he really scared me jumping in the car! Before that point, I always had a passenger, so he always reached in the window of the passanger side. My first time alone, I thought I was either dead for sure or I was going to have a heart attack because i wasn't expecting it and he reached in and unlocked the door in about 2 millisecs, scared the shit out of me! I didn't know him as well then either.

Now a lot of times when I meet him, I'm usually on my way to work or home so I have whatever book or paper I'm reading. He'll pick it up to slip whatever inside, but he'll read the back cover or the title of the paper and ask questions. It's kind of like druggy book club or something!

I think he might have something personal going on. I just got a call when I was leaving work an hour ago and he wanted to know what day we could meet next week, i had told him Sunday that it would be Tues so I told him again. He said ok, that's good I'll explain it when I see you, whatever that means???? He has been traveling more than usual and calling from different numbers, so it could be just something changing or going on with him. Who knows, I'm still being careful until I really know what all this is about if it even is anything!

SpecialGuy69
10-24-2006, 08:25 PM
It might just be a baltimore thing, extra friendly dealers- i live in the dc area, drive up to b-more to meet this lady who is like 50 years old and 300lbs. I'm not catching any vibes from her, but, she calls me every time just as I get home to make sure I made it back, calls a few hours later to see if I liked the package, and calls a few days later to see if i need to re-up. I can't avoid her, even when I'm tryin to stick with the subutex.

Anyways- in my case, anyways, it's just that I buy more volume from her (and probably pay more) than most of her customers, so she makes a good payday when I come up. I could stop and talk to anyone on her street, but I always meet her b/c she is cool to me. End result: she makes extra $, I have a reliable connect.

So maybe it's just you are overpaying compared to his other customers, he's making good money dealing with you, and he doesn't want you going elsewhere.

slugbone
10-24-2006, 08:26 PM
that has been some crazy sht going on vax. it's tough too because you pretty much are stuck with dealing with him so blowing him out of the water telling him to back off would kind of FUBAR your contact, but you hvae to deal with the fact that he is making you feel weird.

much good advice has been dispensed thru this situation so i won't go into that but one thing candy said is tshirt jeans/scrubs don't matter many guys will think that looks great on a girl i am one of them a nice pair of jeans even if haiir is pulled back can be very alluring, but anyway stay safe as i know you will

i just thought of this but hopefully he doesn't have a clue where you live just the cell phen number

CUBErt
10-24-2006, 08:34 PM
Well almost all of my dealer's were actually friends who still call me to see how school and life in general are going.

But Vax this situation still perplexes me, and I wouldn't make any assumptions until after you meet him next and he gives you the scoop on what he was talking about

nick
10-25-2006, 03:20 AM
I agree with nick...it sounds like he likes you. I've never ever had a dealer call me (without me calling them first), and the fact that he kept calling you is even more odd to me. With one exception, the only time I've gotten free drugs from a dealer is when he had a thing for me...

I suppose I'm somewhat mean: if a guy likes me, I'll let him give me drugs, buy me things/food, whatever, all the while pretending to go along with it until it's time for me to go home with my loot.

If that is the case (that he likes you) I'd say go on a date with him, collect your free dope, whatever, but explain that you're a very busy professional woman and don't have a whole lot of free time (and thus cannot hang around with him).
Madness sweetheart,I'm not getting on your case here,but you're playing a dangerous game,some men don't like this kind of shit and some men get violent.It's absolutely none of my business,but I don't like to see anyone get fucked over and with this "scam" you're upping the odds of bad shit happening.
Vaxn8,We may all be a gang of cynics and be maligning this fine man,but it sounds like he has an agenda apart from dealer-client in mind.However this does not mean he's going to jump on you.Dealers are human too.Be careful and if possible be nice to him,even dealers are human and unrequited love hurts like hell,but be safe first of all.

vaxn8
10-25-2006, 05:45 AM
I would agree with you on this Nick. I just woulnd't be comfortable doing that with any guy, let alone this one! As wierd as it sounds, i am much happier keeping it as professional as possible and don't want to give him any reason to be mad at me, and definitely don't want to lose him as a connect! He's been good and reliable up to this point, and that means a lot to me. Some people can get away pulling stuff like this, and it's just not me at all! I couldn't even do it to a guy who had a crush if I wasn't interested, but that's just me. If it works for you MC, awesome I just couldn't pull it off!

tm- I meant to comment last night and forgot, your woman sounds hysterical! I can't imagine a 50 y/o woman dealing, that's just too wierd! She sounds almost like a mom, making sure you get home and all, very funny!

kyuss
10-25-2006, 06:26 AM
Vax
I think I have
the solution
and it could be
a delicious solution
before you meet him
always eat heavy italian
lots of onions and garlic
don't brush your teeth that day
try to find some garlic gum to chew

SpecialGuy69
10-25-2006, 08:35 AM
tm- I meant to comment last night and forgot, your woman sounds hysterical! I can't imagine a 50 y/o woman dealing, that's just too wierd! She sounds almost like a mom, making sure you get home and all, very funny!
Weird, right? She is cool as hell, only problem is I can't get away from her for anything! I've been on 2-3mg subutex, sweatin/freezin for like 5 days, and my phone rings, it's her... I did say no. But yeah, she's a big old fat welfare lady, I actually met her through some friends who live near her in W. Bmore. I really wish it was as simple as giving you her number, Vax. I'd like to see you have another option in case shit gets weirder.

BTW- everyone is saying bmore is hush lately, wtf??? I'm seeing raw everywhere I go up there. Different spot maybe. Anyways, hope it works out.

akcom
10-29-2006, 10:50 PM
I hate to bring up a week old topic, but I just had to throw in my two cents. I saw someone say something to the affect of "you have to think like a dealer," and to be completely honest, I took a bit of offense to that. In the interest of avoiding self-incrimination, I'll simply say that before moving to Maryland a week ago, I had a decent sized business in FL (blow, not H). I always liked my clientele, and always tried to see the best in them (along with everyone else I met). There was one young(ish) lady in particular that I saw on a very regular basis, let's call her Jessica. She was good business and always paid top dollar for top quality, but beyond that, I worried about her. Jessica spent what I felt was an excessive amount of money on her habit, and i get the feeling she felt like I was judgemental of her for the choices she made, which was not the case at all. It got to the point that if she would ask for an 8 ball, I'd give her 4.0, if she asked for a quarter, I'd give her 8. It wasn't because I wanted to coax her into liking me sexually, because I expected her to pay it back later, or because the product was bunk. It was because she seemed like a genuinely likable person and by whatever twisted logic, I felt if I could save her a few bucks, I'd be helping her out. We'd make casual conversation, and on some occasions she'd call me just to chat. I'd call her sweetheart and not think anything of it. If anything, I was worried that she was trying to get closer to me just for some free/discount blow. I guess my point is that not every dealer is just some scumbag looking to make a quick buck. I still cook my mom dinner when she can't get out of bed because I love her. I still leave the waitress at Steak and Shake a 20 dollar tip because I'm sure she deserves a lot for the bullshit she puts up with. I still brought the homeless man who lived by my local gas station lunch whenever I got chinese (but I couldn't bring myself to ever tell him about my line of work, because I knew it would on serve to hurt him even more). Some of us actually do have hearts, and just genuinely want to help someone out of a bind.

vaxn8
10-30-2006, 05:03 AM
Thanks for sharing that AK, it was good to hear that perspective. What initially worried me was him shifting from purely business to doubleing everything overnight. I've always thought he was really a pretty nice guy, I always expected dealers to be scarier and he's not like that at all. I'm sure he can be scary if he wants to be, but I just don't do anything that would make him have to use that side of his personality.

I really think he has something personally going on. He's been out of town a lot and last week called and asked to meet me to talk about something. I'm sure whatever this has all been about will be more clear tomorrow when I meet him. I will still meet him at a train station like I always do. I just really hope nothing bad is wrong or that he is retiring or anything like that.

Part of the reason I asked for everyone's thoughts on this was because i am a pretty bad judge of character and tend to trust people I shouldn't. Something didn't feel right about this change and I really wanted to know if i was overreacting or if it was common.

It will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow, I haven't picked up anything in a while so tomorrow will be the first time in a few weeks. Thanks again AK, that was really interesting to read, and it's nice to know you guys are human too! I don't know if you read the whole thread but we talked about how hard it is to imagine your guy doing something like eating thanksgiving dinner or stuff like that. To read about a guy who takes care of his mom is just really cool and puts a more human side on the whole thing.

nick
10-30-2006, 05:20 AM
my significant other also has problems with character judgement-she ended up with me for a start.I tell her she should expect the worst ,while hoping for the best in everyone and everything.
Interesting and kinda reassuring to read AK's comments.As I say dealers are human,but human nature and the nature of the business often lead to customer"problems".
Whatever happens Vax,make sure you're safe first and keep us posted.

kyuss
10-30-2006, 08:22 AM
that would make
a great signature
"Dealers Are People Too" :D

SpecialGuy69
10-31-2006, 10:50 AM
Well vax... how did it go?