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Twizted Pain

10-30-2011, 09:23 PM

What a glorious roller coaster of a ride opiates are... Here I sit kicking again, its odd the only comfort im getting is by reading other peoples stories of kicking and what not. I guess like others have said it brings you comfort to know your not the only one kicking at this very moment. And I know others are kicking from a much higher tolly than I have. Sucks to kick no matter what the tolly I suppose.

This time is much harder than any other kick, I burned through my script in a matter of days...jumped straight to pods using them much more frequently then ever before and they had me feeling GREAT, oh how I love them. The difference with this kick versus any other kick ive done is the fact I have about 40 huge pods on my kitchen counter and a couple of my pills left. I'm kicking because I go to my pain clinic soon and I don't want to drop dirty on the pods. I have the 2 pills left so I can drop dirty for my script. Having these things around while kicking has made this hell for me. Just the urge to go into my kitchen and grind up some good ol pods and feel AMAZING is killing me slowly.

On the lighter side I've got 24 hours left, this time tomorrow night I can take 1 of my remaining pills before bed then I'll take the last one in the morning when I get up before I go to my doc. 24 hours in kicking time is ages... plus I have a full shift to look forward to tomorrow. I guess in a way that is a good thing, it will keep me busy and hopefully make the hours tick by just a little faster than kicking on the couch.

Anyway just wanted to do a bit of talking to ease the pains of the kick. Cheers to everyone and to all those who are kicking with me GOOD LUCK and be safe.

blinky89

10-30-2011, 09:52 PM

sorry to hear it bro....but if ur apt is in a couple of days and your expecting to have to drop, isnt it a little late to kick the pods? ugh...and im all too familiar with that feeling of knowing that relief is just a few feet away, but knowing you cant touch it.

nothin really to throw in here except hope it passes quickly and as painlessly as possible. but i would suggest if you have just now stopped using pods and have to drop in less than 2 days, looking into some sort of backup plan bc i seriously doubt if thats the case that the pods will clear before then. especially considering the long half life of pods

tui

10-30-2011, 10:05 PM

Could you use Lope to help you get by? What does that show up as in a UA?

Good luck buddy, kicking sure does suck.

Twizted Pain

10-30-2011, 10:06 PM

I stopped the pod usage days ago. I would think a full 7+ days should leave me enough time to drop clean. Last time I tested after I think roughly 5 days since last pod usage and I dropped clean. This time I had a bit more warning and was able to stop usage sooner, I think I should be ok in that area.

blinky89

10-30-2011, 10:12 PM

lope doesnt show up as anything AFIK....ive read a ton on lope and never read about it showing on a UA. and even if it does, i dont see what the problem would be since its a perfectly legal OTC med

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gotcha...well thats good to hear. like tui said, i would DEF load up on lope. its never really did a whole lot for me, but def was better than a complete CT kick.

tramadol is what gets me by when i absolutely cant get anything else. ive never heard of drug test testing for trams....i always have had them in my system the past couple of times ive had to drop and never had a problem.

some OTC melatonin helps me with sleep as well....diphenhydramine is great when in not in straight up WD, but i would not recommend using that while in full WD at all bc i did that once and it severely aggravated the already horrible RLS. but the ''lazy cake'' brownies that r sold at gas stations really help me out. you may be really groggy the next day, but to me, being groggy after a full nite of sleep is nowhere near as bad laying in bed thrashing around all nite from WDs

OpiatedChronically

10-31-2011, 02:12 AM

Ouch! 7 days already? That's ROUGH. Have you been using ANYTHING to ease the pain or have you just been going balls to the wall CT?

Only one more day, it will be slow and miserable, that's for sure, as you said 24 hours is like a week in W/D time. I'm out of meds until wednesday and have been out for a few days, I've been and will be hurting like hell so I'm right there with ya man.

Here's to time passing with the quickness!!

upstate_007

10-31-2011, 06:35 AM

Hope the rest of today goes quickly for you.

In the future:

- Lope. Lots of it.
- Once you get your script filled and have taken it for a few days, piss in a bottle and freeze it. By doing that, you can avoid being sick at the end of the month.
- Lope. Lots of it. Seriously. When I had to give urine for GC/MS testing at pain management there was never any questions raised about the lope in my system. I am not even sure if it was tested for at all.

Twizted Pain

10-31-2011, 01:13 PM

For some odd reason I've got a sudden boost of energy and happiness..now I'm in no way complaining but this has never happened at all in the past. I feel like the next few hours will be a breeze. Right now instead of dreading the next few hours I'm actually excited thinking that this tome tomorrow ill have my script in hand. Oh that precious little paper that that makes our eyes light up like a little kid on Xmas morning.

I wish I knew what brought about this bought of energy and happiness so I could spread the joy. The only thing I have been doing is downing loads of water and V8 juice.

OpiatedChronically

10-31-2011, 06:07 PM

I think you've actually made it through the major part of that detox and are now starting to feel "normal" emotions and energy flow again. That what it sounds like, IMO.

When I'm out of meds and on Lope, my normal emotions come back and I have stronger feelings of happiness and funny things become like 100x as funny as they would when on my meds, although I can have equally strong feelings of sadness and depression, and I do.

Or it could just be psychological, knowing that relief will be very soon and not feeling as bad, even better, as a result. I know it happens to me as I'm sitting in my doctors office, knowing that relief is so close that just knowing that really does make me feel better....most times, I'm usually on lope though but I don't always take enough to make the W/D go away completely, since lope can keep tolerance from lowering significantly at high enough doses when taken for long enough.

Twizted Pain

10-31-2011, 07:01 PM

I was thinking the same thing but I mean I feel 100% right now. I went from feeling just miserable to taking a small nap and waking up feeling amazing. I know what you mean about feeling better when you know relief is so close. Its amazing how a small pill in my case can make a grown man feel horrible when he is without or absolutely on top of the world when he does have it. I know come tomorrow morning when im on the way to my pharmacy script in hand I'll be just as happy as a man could be. Its Sad really I suppose.

Duckfeet

10-31-2011, 08:35 PM

Yep, kicking is definitely part of this fucker, tho it's usually not on the junky brochure. Everybody seems to have certain kicking aspects that bug them more than others, and different approaches...I used to just get good and drunk on day two, but looking back, honestly, usually that's when I'd say fuck it, and just give in....well done on hanging in there...I always had to put myself out of physical reach, or, like I said, I'd give in...except for a couple of times when it really mattered, like getting out of the army and stuff...anyway, good luck with it all, should be about over, I imagine...

Twizted Pain

10-31-2011, 09:16 PM

Just took 1 of my last 2 pills and ill take the next in the morning so ill be sure to drop pos for my rx'd med. I can't believe I didn't dive into the pod stash or eat my last 2 pills(which I held on to for roughly 2+ weeks) and ruin this whole thing . I suppose the completely unexpected upswing in my mood is why I didn't devour those fuckers heh. Anyways thanks to all for the words and once again to all those kicking hang tough.

OpiatedChronically

10-31-2011, 09:42 PM

Twizted Pain

10-31-2011, 10:28 PM

Did you really do this completely CT or have you been using lope?

If this was CT, and it seems to me that it is, props sir. How big is your habit? I'm much more curious now. I'm such a big whiny baby pussy ass bitch when it comes to W/Ds, I usually can't make it more than 2 days without lope.

Yea it was completely CT. My habit is fairly small compared to most, I can get by pretty well on around 120-160mg of Oxycodone a day. I'm usually a big ol baby about W/D's too so I know what you mean. This time it did suck in the beginning but since I came from pods it took a long time for W/D's to really start getting to me then when things were at their worst it was like I took a nap and everything was lifted... still not sure what happened but very thankful none the less.

Normally in the midst of the worse part of the W/D's I get RLS so bad sleep isnt even remotely an option for me, this time I had the RLS for a night or 2. However, like I said earlier I actually slept without any drugs to knock me out last night. This could in fact be part of the reason I felt so much better the ability to sleep makes things much more bearable.

I'm sure the biggest contributing factor is my relatively smaller habit compared to most, which makes for a much more manageable Withdrawal I would think. I was coming down off of roughly 8-10 pods a day this time not sure where that sits as far as habits go.

PriceofPills

10-31-2011, 10:36 PM

Ok I gotta ask. What's the script for?

OpiatedChronically

10-31-2011, 10:37 PM

That still sounds like a formidable habit, OxyC is not a weak opioid by any means, and Pods are pretty damn potent from what I hear (I've never tried them, but very much want to)

How long have you been at this daily dosing schedule? I'm curious because if you've only been on these doses for, let's say, a couple of months or so, the W/D wouldn't be balls out horrifying, but would still be fairly uncomfortable. Those pods are wicked expensive from what I've been reading.

Twizted Pain

10-31-2011, 10:44 PM

Ok I gotta ask. What's the script for?

Well I broke my back over a year ago and had spinal fusion surgery. Everything was going good after my surgery then all of a sudden I started getting serious pains in my left leg down to my foot. Long story short I now have what is called complex regional pain syndrome in my left leg and that is why I have a script.

And to answer your Q OpiatedChronically ive had a long history with pills. Never took them daily until I broke my back over a year ago so i've been at it daily to some degree for a little over a year. And yea pods are pretty expensive, I'm fairly new to pods myself so I couldn't really compare to how they used to be price wise but regardless they cost good $$

PriceofPills

10-31-2011, 10:52 PM

I meant what drug. oxy, morph, fent?

Twizted Pain

10-31-2011, 11:04 PM

I meant what drug. oxy, morph, fent?

Oh, my apologies. Oxy for me

Der Alte Krieger

10-31-2011, 11:05 PM

I've let the pods run my tolly way the fuck up there. I was once getting a buzz from 10 Norcos that I don't even notice anymore. I don't seem to get really sick as long as I taper off with Lope but I don't ever get used to not being high. Thats a no goer.

Twizted Pain

11-01-2011, 06:45 AM

Well I'm off to the doctor, wish me luck.

Twizted Pain

11-01-2011, 12:10 PM

I apologize for the double post, I tried editing but it would not let me. I went to my doc this morning and was extremely surprised because I didn't even have to get piss tested... all the withdrawal for nothing, better safe then sorry I suppose. I did get pretty lucky today however, I got my script bumped up a nice bit. Oh and the best part I leave my doc's office script in hand happy as can be only to look down at it and see DO NOT FILL until Nov 2 2011.... I was immediately saddened by this.

On the way to the pharmacy to get my other 2 scripts filled I decided I'm just gonna hand them all 3 scripts and see if I can get lucky. I knew I wouldn't get away with it but I figured what the hell right. I was floored when they called me up and I went to the counter and was handed ALL 3 Scripts HA score one for my junky ass. I don't know how this slipped by them. I suppose it might have helped me a bit that they were extremely busy and my scripts come on a full sheet of paper and it has tons of writing on it so I guess the DO NOT FILL until part was just simply overlooked.

OpiatedChronically

11-01-2011, 02:05 PM

Wow no UA, an increased dose AND you got them a day early!! Good karma must have owed you one. Congrats man!

Bet you're feeling much better by now after all that sober time.

Princess Kitty

11-01-2011, 02:12 PM

PerpetualKick

11-01-2011, 05:09 PM

Wow no UA, an increased dose AND you got them a day early!! Good karma must have owed you one. Congrats man!

Bet you're feeling much better by now after all that sober time.

Good karma on my end too. Got my script early as well with no UA (I would have had some problems there), and my doc seemed to forget about the taper he wanted to do and remained at the same dose this month. Cheers all around! Now if only I can have the script last the whole month I'd be sitting pretty...

Princess Kitty

11-01-2011, 06:22 PM

OpiatedChronically

11-01-2011, 06:42 PM

Thats good for you. I got struck by the angry dope gods. I was supposed to refill on the 3rd and now it's the 4th. She flat out asked me if I was asking for my Meds early and I said I dont know what u can do for me. She wrote me clonidine and my scripts with a DO NOT FILL TIL 11/4 written on it. I almost wanna ask to fill on Thursday but I think they are not happy with me. So 2.5 more days. I did cry in the car.

Why did your doctor write NO FILL TILL Nov 4th if it was supposed to be on the 3rd? Was she that angry about running out early? Seems kind of pointless for her to do that if you were due on Thurs. anyway....

I'm really sorry PK. Hopefully time will pass as quickly as possible till Friday (fuck that hurts me just thinking about it)

Princess Kitty

11-01-2011, 07:00 PM

Yes apparently she was mad that I didn't fish my pills out of my puke and eat them. Instead of 30 day scripts I'm on 28 day. So I just have to show them that I am honest and not abusing or diverting. It's alright. My fault. It's lope time

Twizted Pain

11-01-2011, 08:13 PM

Wow no UA, an increased dose AND you got them a day early!! Good karma must have owed you one. Congrats man!

Bet you're feeling much better by now after all that sober time.

Oh yea Karma definitely shined her light down on me today that is for sure. Now I'm just afraid she is fucking with me and getting me good and happy just to take me down heh... sorry Karma usually never does good things for me so I'm a bit skeptical lol.

And yes I'm feeling much much better now :D If I'm not mistaken you should be feeling the happiness tomorrow right? Hope things go as good for you as they did for me.

Princess Kitty: Hang in there girl I know all too well how long a few days actually feels like in withdrawal time, just keep hanging tough and your relief will come to you as well. I hope time flies for you and all goes well.

chemboy7

11-01-2011, 08:28 PM

Everybody seems to have certain kicking aspects that bug them more than others, and different approaches...I used to just get good and drunk on day two, but looking back, honestly, usually that's when I'd say fuck it, and just give in.

I'm always amazed when people tell me about drinking while in WD. While I've never tried it, it seems like it would fuck around with the stomach too much. Then again, I've got a weak gut. Does it help with the nastiness much? I'm intrigued.

OpiatedChronically

11-01-2011, 08:34 PM

You are correct my good sir, by noon tomorrow I'll be pain free and feeling wonderful. Glad you're finally feeling better as well! Isn't it such a tremendous relief? If only the relief didn't come with such a high price....

Luckily my PM doc is a great guy and only UA's new patients, and once they pass, no more UA's unless you give him a DAMN GOOD reason. He doesn't even test for THC, only everything else. I've got a great relationship with him and I learn something new during each visit, he's a very wise and caring individual. Funny as hell too.

EDIT: Chemboy7, I've hit the bottle a few times while in W/D, and it can help a lot with the anxiety/high blood pressure/depression, but it seems to only be the most effective during the first day or 2 (if it's a CT kick) otherwise you'll be feeling too horrible to really get much out of it......

Now, if you're on fair doses of lope though, it can help A LOT more, obviously since you're not as distracted by the other major symptoms and can actually relax and enjoy a nice buzz for a while

Princess Kitty

11-01-2011, 09:03 PM

I took a bunch of lope and can't stop sneezing. I almost so badly want to call them and ask to refill a day early but I know that'll be a red flag. They don't give a fuck that I was sick. I have to manage better for sure cause they will only let me refill every 2& days. I shouldn't have gone. I shoulda ca elmer my appt and then could have picked up my scripts o Wednesday

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I took a bunch of lope and can't stop sneezing. I almost so badly want to call them and ask to refill a day early but I know that'll be a red flag. They don't give a fuck that I was sick. I have to manage better for sure cause they will only let me refill every 2& days. I shouldn't have gone. I shoulda ca elmer my appt and then could have picked up my scripts o Wednesday

Fucking android spell check. I meant cancelled. I think I need more lope cause I almost throw up when I sneeze.

GOLD N DIEMONDS

11-01-2011, 09:11 PM

Good karma on my end too. Got my script early as well with no UA (I would have had some problems there), and my doc seemed to forget about the taper he wanted to do and remained at the same dose this month. Cheers all around! Now if only I can have the script last the whole month I'd be sitting pretty...

YOU BE SITTING WITH A PRETTY FUCKING HIGH TOLLY
WHICH if your Dr doesn't write the same script agian
you have a PRETTY fucking miserable next 2 month

OH YEAH, thee worst of kicking pods doen't even begin until after a week
and keeping getting worst and WORSTer for at least a month more like 2 Months.

You in a fucker situation1
UNLESS you can resist the usage of all 3
and just continue with your normal script reality

( oh well ther is alwayus heroin)( very shity Heroin)

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Twizted Pain

11-01-2011, 11:49 PM

GnD: Only 1 of my scripts was for a narcotic, obviously the one I got filled a day early due to them over looking the do not fill date. The other 2 are for arthritis and nerve meds. I didn't get 3 scripts for a narcotic filled in the same day by mistake lol If something of that scale happened It would be both the best and the worst day of my life I would think.

Twizted Pain

11-03-2011, 02:03 PM

I had a feeling things were too good be true, I may have had good karma shine down on me the other day with getting my meds and shit but today I'm afraid my good Karma ran out. I was moving around some boxes in my garage and I lifted one off of a shelf that was about chest height. I slid the box to the end of the shelf thinking it wasn't very heavy... very wrong about that. Once the box slid off the edge of the shelf and its full weight hit me I felt a sharp pain in my back and my Stimulator implant shut off. I tried and tried getting my stim to come back on because without it my CRPS pain is to intense to handle.

After many failed attempts to get it to come on I called my doc and he had me come straight in. After talking with him a bit he said he wanted to do an xray to see what happened to my stimulator. He later showed me the xray and pointed out that I somehow managed to snap the wire that runs from my stimulator up and connects to my spinal cord..... So it looks like I will be having another surgery on my back to remove the broken wire and to attach a new wire to my stim and my spinal cord. What wonderful luck I have :/

OpiatedChronically

11-03-2011, 03:10 PM

Oh dude, that's some shit...sorry to hear that.

Is it going to be an emergency surgery, as in tomorrow or within the next few days?

dieselbaby

11-03-2011, 03:10 PM

I highly suggest after you get your script filled and all sorted out and all that, you collect a bunch of your urine (which contains the specific meds in there that you don't mind being positive for) and save it for the next time you get tested. This way you don't have to kick but it doesn't sound like you have it too bad if you are making it to work and pods are getting you roasted. Be careful as it's a slippery slope indeed. I highly recommend keeping a stock of back-up clean urine on hand for cases like yours, especially as you know you are going to be tested but it's not like they're going to be observing you or check you before you go to the bathroom I bet.

Sorry if this is rambling my takehome is kicking in :)

EDIT: Just read this whole drama from start to finish. God luck on your surgery bro.

Twizted Pain

11-03-2011, 11:11 PM

The surgery should be pretty soon, I'm still waiting on a phone call for the date and time. Until then I was told to stay home, up my dosage to dull the pain and limit my mobility to only things I really need to do like go to the bathroom. Me and my doc were both stumped with how exactly the wire broke, he said in all the years he has been at it nobody has had this happen. He said he has seen them come disconnected from the battery unit but never a broken wire... just my luck.

Ugh, another 2-3 hour back surgery which I will have to remain awake for during the majority of the surgery.. fun stuff.

Junkette

11-04-2011, 08:59 AM

So I'm gonna sound like a sick bitch here, but whatever...

I really enjoy spinal surgeries
And pain pumps
And profonol

And I'm not talking shit, i've had 5. Hopefully no more though...relearning how to walk gets kind of lame...last time I was down for almost a year...

SHELLEY

11-04-2011, 09:02 AM

i am in pretty bad withdrawal from oxy (and bupe to a lesser extent) today
and i took enough speed to where i feel fucking amazing
vyvanse + desoxyn + caffeine
the shit WORKS, taking one ritalin is just gonna make your legs twitch worse
but if you take ENOUGH stims, it seriously seems to eliminate the sickness completely

and OP.... your meds were not "good karma" and your injury is not "bad karma"
i do not think that word means what you think it means
but even if you use the term like mainstream america likes to ("getting what you deserve in day to day life")
i don't see how the two incidents could possibly be related in any way
here's a mantra for you, SHIT HAPPENS, it sucks what happened
but it's not some cosmic bank that you overdrafted
by being a bastard or not giving money to enough homeless people ffs
shit happens, dude

iriewon

11-04-2011, 09:17 AM

i am in pretty bad withdrawal from oxy (and bupe to a lesser extent) today
and i took enough speed to where i feel fucking amazing
vyvanse + desoxyn + caffeine
the shit WORKS, taking one ritalin is just gonna make your legs twitch worse
but if you take ENOUGH stims, it seriously seems to eliminate the sickness completely

ugh idk how you do it...you're def. alone on that one. i can't even stand the thought or someone even near me doing any sort of stim that shit makes my wd's 10000000x's worse ill start gagging, dry heaving, etc...right away even at the thought of it!!! you could not pay me to do any sort of stim while in wd!!! ugh fuck that riff raff...to each his/her own though...w/e works for ya! : )

kNOw1

11-04-2011, 09:29 AM

ugh idk how you do it...you're def. alone on that one. i can't even stand the thought or someone even near me doing any sort of stim that shit makes my wd's 10000000x's worse ill start gagging, dry heaving, etc...right away even at the thought of it!!! you could not pay me to do any sort of stim while in wd!!! ugh fuck that riff raff...to each his/her own though...w/e works for ya! : )

I was literally thinking the same thing, Shelley, you are a crazy breed of a different animal.

I can't even fathom how that would help, besides if I got so fucked I couldn't remember what WDs were in the first place.

SHELLEY

11-04-2011, 09:50 AM

I was literally thinking the same thing, Shelley, you are a crazy breed of a different animal.

I can't even fathom how that would help, besides if I got so fucked I couldn't remember what WDs were in the first place.

taking yer mind off it is the main idea
someone totally twacked is not someone laying in bed moaning, that's what i say :)

Twizted Pain

12-10-2011, 10:41 PM

Well here I sit again doing my monthly kick lol... the pain we put ourselves thru. I posted a bit back in the pain forum talking about all my issues and how my dose was doubled last visit. Well I thought for sure with it being doubled I could make it last a bit longer.... haha silly me for even thinking that. I instead just started using about 350-400mg+ of IR Oxy a day lol.

Anyway its day 3 1/2 ish since my last dose of Oxy, I decided this time to give lope an actual shot by using 150mg doses. I started with the lope the day before my last dose taking 150mg's every 24 hours and im still using it. And let me say HOLY SHIT I'm absolutely amazed by how well this works for me. 150 mgs a day and I have thus far felt 0 and I mean honest to god 0 W/D well aside from cravings that is. But I can deal with the cravings easily by keeping busy, which is something I can never do during the worst days of W/D. Day 3 is usually by far the worst for me coming down from Oxy but today NADA.

Hell I actually went to an Xmas party last night, and went to a wedding this morning and enjoyed myself at both I just couldn't get around as much as normal due to pain... truly a miracle drug for me that is for sure. I wish it worked for everyone as well as it does for me. I have half ass tried lope in the past but it was at much smaller doses at which I didn't feel much comfort. I think, and this is just my opinion, that most people throwing out lope as a W/D helper just aren't using enough as was my experience anyway. I haven't noticed any effect at all with it helping relieve my back pain and testicle pain tho sadly.

Izm One

12-10-2011, 11:14 PM

Chronic testicle pain? Holy shit! That makes me want to stab myself in the eyeball just thinking about. I hope you get your RX refilled soon, my man!

It would be funny if lope worked for it though. "I simply take anti diarrhea medication for my nut pain. I get relief and don't have to worry about inconvenient bowel movements. A win win!"

digby

12-10-2011, 11:32 PM

Tell me how you feel when you get to crash time on the stims. It's not like you can run for 5 days to a week on the stims without having to come down at least once, and that has got to feel HORRIBLE while in WD. Withdrawal on steroids.

opi

12-11-2011, 10:09 AM

Stay postitive, I like how you are looking forward to working. the last thing I would want to to do when withdrawling is going to work, even though I used to do it all the time but it was an unsupervised job, I used to sleep in my work truck when I was in withdrawal hardcore and those sleepy spells would just come over me. withdrawal is what I hate about opiates, over the years I have learned some self control and I usually taper, which makes the withdrawal much easier.

methadoniac1972

12-11-2011, 04:13 PM

i used r/c stims to kick opis and it worked but the comedown off weeeks of mdxx...is just hard w/d's just postponed...not as bad..but paws..is a def waitin..i used lyrica to wean off..5 months and im still shaky..aint easy or quick..kickin legs some times..sleep 24/7...or not at all,,nothing is the same the damage done ..how i got here ..where did it all go..how do i get better easy to get here hard to find a way out .

Twizted Pain

12-11-2011, 11:19 PM

I can't believe im saying this but it's day 4 1/2 and I still haven't felt a single bit of W/D. The pain from my back and testicle does get debilitating at times but as for W/D its nowhere to be seen. Lope how I love you so, still a long time till refill day but at this rate im feeling confident. Disclaimer: TMI below

A little TMI but I thought some may be curious to know the effects 150mg of Lope a day is having on my body. I have passed a decent sized baby lol it wasn't any more painful than normal when my opie use is high. For those that were wondering :)

OpiatedChronically

12-12-2011, 06:53 AM

Since you're on day 4 1/2 now of taking lope at 150mgs a day, it is now built up in your system very similar to metahdone, lope has a 24 - 30hour half-life I believe. You should try cutting down your daily lope dose to 100 - 120mgs for a few days, and then taper down to somewhere between 80 - 100mgs a day.

Once it builds up in your body you can start taking a bit less each day or every other day until refill day. I do this all the time, starting out with 100mgs the first 3 days and then cutting down my daily intake of lope until I'm down to about 40mgs on the last few days until refill and at that point I am still feeling absolutely NO W/D whatsoever.

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Damn it's too late to edit but I forgot to mention that taking high doses of lope will also keep your tolerance from lowering any significant amount, if at all, with doses above 100mgs for longer than 6+ days. I've found this out after I had to take lope for about 10 days, and I was taking between 80 - 100mgs each day, and when I got my morphine again I figured my tolerance would be significantly lower from the lack of morphine for 10 days, only to find that my tolerance was basically where it was when I started the lope, and in fact for the first couple of days, I felt that I need MORE morphine than I did before starting the lope to not only catch a buzz but also to relieve the pain that I'm prescribed Avinza for.

I try to take only enough lope to keep the worst symptoms at bay. These days I start off with 100mgs the first 2 or 3 days, then taper down 4 - 8mgs every day afterwards. The longest I've taken lope was 22 days in a row, and the last 4 days I was down to 20mgs and basically feeling fine except for some very mild but very manageable restlessness and muscle aches

Lope's safety profile hasn't been established yet as there have been no studies done at the doses we take to stay well. The evidence so far suggests that lope has a very neurotoxic metabolite that enters into certain cells and cannot exit them, possibly causing Parkinson's-type symptoms after frequent high dose usage....I think if you search for the "Loppreciation thread" you'll find a post by Spork with a link to a site with the info explaining some of the possible dangers of lope.

jimmyfingers

12-12-2011, 08:17 AM

It can't be good for the body to take 70 pills of lope. I try and stay away from it completely unless I need 1 pill for actual stomach problems.

SHELLEY

12-12-2011, 10:14 AM

my kick begins tomorrow- sub doctor appt in 5 days
i figure i'll get high all day today, then do nothing at all tomorrow
and start taking suboxone on wednesday morning/afternoon
my sub dr tests for oxy, opiates, benzos, methadone, bupe, and cocaine
notice my favorite drugs (and awesome w/d aids) are not on that list :)
i'll just be smoking herb, taking my amps and methamp, and the subs as needed
kicking is laaaaaaaaame, but sometimes it can feel good (if that makes any sense)
sometimes when i do large amoutns of opis every single day all day long
like i have been for the past month and a half
i start to feel a little bit dead
the pain of the kick reminds me that i'm still alive, that i earned this pain, it gives me motivation
also... hella tolly dropper

Tell me how you feel when you get to crash time on the stims. It's not like you can run for 5 days to a week on the stims without having to come down at least once, and that has got to feel HORRIBLE while in WD. Withdrawal on steroids.

you do stims for 4-5 days in a row while in w/d and then crash
i can guarantee you'll sleep (unless coming off methadone)