opiates and lsd

[nick]

Does anyone know how opiates effect LSD?Opiates definately seem to "weaken"LSD.ANY info gratefully receuved.

[repeek]

It is hard to know just what it is you are using when do what “they call LSD” today. I would be very skeptical today as I have not seen any real LSD for twenty plus years and haven’t heard of any from a host of people who are tired of getting PCP and other animal tranquilizers in its place.

But as for how well they would work together, if it is the real thing; they actually compliment each other quite well. You get a nice relaxed trip that has a smoothness about it that is hard to explain. Swim actually used his blotter paper for a cotton and IV’ed them together, and without a doubt it was the nicest trip ever.

[robojunkie]

All I can say is that I was trippin once and decided to come down with some good tea. Took it about 4 or 5 hours after dosing. Most un-fucking-believable body rush the entire next 8 hours. You know how lsd feels like "electricity" throughout your body: replace that with that sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet opiated feeling. Almost like an H rush that doesn't stop. Key thing is I had no habit/tolerance at this time. Tried repeating during habits and it just ain't the same, no matter how much H/tea you do. Done this twice successfully (without habit). Wouldn't get my hopes otherwise though, but this is worth the worst kick for 10 or 12 days. Probably the best I have ever felt, except maybe that time I was robing and tripping and blasted a nice speedball, but that's another story.

[Seedy]

It is hard to know just what it is you are using when do what “they call LSD” today. I would be very skeptical today as I have not seen any real LSD for twenty plus years and haven’t heard of any from a host of people who are tired of getting PCP and other animal tranquilizers in its place.

I'm pretty sure the different effects you're getting with acid these days is due to shortcuts in the production process, slight different ingredients, etc. Could u even get an active dose of pcp, etc on a little piece of blotter.
I didn't trip thru the 60's but I KNOW I've had some damn fine clean strong LSD!!

And mixing with opies takes the edge off nicely!

[WarmCyanide]

had to take xtra amounts of opes when trippin. also I used to have to take alot more acid if i would trip on consecutive days. 7 tabs monday, 9 or 10 or more tuesday

[blueflutterfly]

Could u even get an active dose of pcp, etc on a little piece of blotter.

you can - took this drugs and alcohol night class in high school (easy credit). a narc came in one night, talk'd about all kinds of shite including the fact that about 65% of the acid around here isn't acid but pcp. i've never knowingly done dust but if i had to guess i think i could tell the difference between clean acid and not. acid being extremely euphoric and gentle like a kiss from the sun, pcp being closer to a chemical nightmare without terror just around the corner...


had to take xtra amounts of opes when trippin. also I used to have to take alot more acid if i would trip on consecutive days. 7 tabs monday, 9 or 10 or more tuesday

we tried dosing days in a row, never work'd tho. heard that you had to double the amount the second day so we did - just got totally fuking spaced out, no trip'n. stare into space for hours on end...we kept trying though. eventually we gave up cause it was a total waste. the closest i could pull it off was every second day...i wouldn't recomend it to anyone. once that period ended it took about a year and a half for things/the world to seem 'solid' again...everything had this liquid type ????? about it.

[Seedy]

you can - took this drugs and alcohol night class in high school (easy credit). a narc came in one night, talk'd about all kinds of shite including the fact that about 65% of the acid around here isn't acid but pcp. i've never knowingly done dust but if i had to guess i think i could tell the difference between clean acid and not. acid being extremely euphoric and gentle like a kiss from the sun, pcp being closer to a chemical nightmare without terror just around the corner...

Well I'll be gosh darned.
I'm pretty sure the shit we get here is made by earth-loving hippies, I haven't had bad acid for years and even then it was just kind of speedy & non hallucinogenic. Still fun! Anyway, I'd love to give pcp a go. as long as I knew what i was taking anyway. Gimme drugs!;)

[LayinLow]

Well I'll be gosh darned.
I'm pretty sure the shit we get here is made by earth-loving hippies, I haven't had bad acid for years and even then it was just kind of speedy & non hallucinogenic. Still fun! Anyway, I'd love to give pcp a go. as long as I knew what i was taking anyway. Gimme drugs!;)

lol seedy... I don't think I would want to take any pcp if I had the chance, and I love my drugs too! Another I stay away from is Ketamine, had a real bad time, seemed like I was reeeal close to OD. Anyway, hope everyones week is going well! I'm glad we are back online!!! yayyyy

[repeek]

PCP is the pits, take a pass on it. You get so spaced on that stuff sometimes you can't even get the end of a sentence spoken before forgeting what you were going to say.

If PCP was the only drug left on earth, I would be straight.

[Seedy]

you can - took this drugs and alcohol night class in high school (easy credit). a narc came in one night, talk'd about all kinds of shite including the fact that about 65% of the acid around here isn't acid but pcp. i've never knowingly done dust but if i had to guess i think i could tell the difference between clean acid and not. acid being extremely euphoric and gentle like a kiss from the sun, pcp being closer to a chemical nightmare without terror just around the corner...

I bet that dirty swine narc filthy muthafukka was just trying to scare kids into not taking drugs. :D

[WarmCyanide]

Anyone remember the Wm. PIckard case? Really put a big bag of quail dung on the whole thing.
Heres a little blurb about it:

The DEA found numerous items and equipment associated with an LSD laboratory, as well as chemical substances including 41.3 kilograms (more than 95 pounds) of LSD, 97.5 kilograms (more than 214 pounds) of lysergic acid, and 23.6 kilograms (more than 52 pounds) of iso-lysergic acid,” the court’s ruling said. “The DEA also tested a large patch of dead grass found outside one of the buildings on the base. The soil samples tested positive for LSD, iso-LSD, and lysergic acid.”

[trainwrecker]

Indeed. it seems LSD as dissapeared since Pickard when out of biz. In fact, I haven't had any in probably 5 years. I have put no effort into finding it, kind of took too much in High school. It's dissapearance coinsided with my getting tired of it.

I do however enjoy the effects of opiates and mushrooms. In fact, I would never take mushrooms without at least having taken my methadone that day. Seems to bring out the withdrawls in strange and undescribable ways.

[nick]

Thanks all for your input.This was pure liquid LSD.1 drop didn't quite do it,but 2 hahaha wow.It was so good I took 4 drops the next day and man chaintabing works.I will say opiates reduce and change the effects of LSD,but the results of the mix are still fun.

[zombiewoof23]

It is hard to know just what it is you are using when do what “they call LSD” today. I would be very skeptical today as I have not seen any real LSD for twenty plus years and haven’t heard of any from a host of people who are tired of getting PCP and other animal tranquilizers in its place.

But as for how well they would work together, if it is the real thing; they actually compliment each other quite well. You get a nice relaxed trip that has a smoothness about it that is hard to explain. Swim actually used his blotter paper for a cotton and IV’ed them together, and without a doubt it was the nicest trip ever.

There is still some family crystal floating around if you know the right ppl. I've had what I consider to be good L. I would be interested to know from DD, the difference in today's "family" crystal, in comparison to Owsley, since he is in the right area.

Speaking of L, Where the hell has blahblahblah been? Did anybody else take any of the blotter that is blahblahblah's avatar?

Edit: I haven't tripped since New Years of 2000 on the Big Cypress Indian Reservation in Florida, so I can't comment on today's LSD scene. I know there is still family crystal floating around though. My L experience was throughout the 90's.

[God_Albino]

Old thread, but before it slips my mind completely, i gotta contribute.

during my first 'bad trip', i ended up chomping some benzos and going home, where the voices and chatter were pushed away pretty much, while the lsd body high peaked, and i decided to smoke some fent while listening to Spiritualized's Ladies and Gentlemen...

whoever said it dampened the effects was completely wrong, from a physical standpoint, it was electric ecstacy, waves of unknown bliss coursing over my body and mind after a horrible ordeal.

since that trip, every one has been negative, but opiates of any kind have only thrown more gas on the fire.

anyway, i'm saying if you have a mind for tripping, it was one of the most calming and pleasurable combinations and the typical fent 'i need another hit' feeling was gone. no come-down, just much needed sleep.

[Paregoric Kid]

does anyone think opiates and 2C-I would be fun? (I've heard its like DOM/DOB which feels like taking MDMA and LSD, though I've never got to try DOB/M I bet they were fun as hell)
opiates and some hallucinogens both interact with the 5-HT system.

[Seedy]

^^ if you find out, tell me! i have access to some 2CB (pretty damn close to 2CI, right?) and am always keen to experiment!

[lotus]

at one point i was shooting around 1, maybe 1.5 "grams" of kadian a day and i attempted to eat mushrooms.

everybody else got higher than shit......my vision got a bit blurry, light look'd softer.....and i felt cold. did a heafty shot, got warm again, and when i woke up in the morning they were all smoking weed, giggling about how *awesome* it had been. never tried again.

[KiloByte]

^^ if you find out, tell me! i have access to some 2CB (pretty damn close to 2CI, right?) and am always keen to experiment!

Wow you still get that stuff? I havent seen 2C-I or B in years.

[Seedy]

^^ fucked if i know where it comes from but yeah, a friend of a friend got a bunch and has not been able to flick it all off. problem is it's mushroom season so nature's bounty is much cheaper. hmm, shrooms & 2CB would be quite a combo!

[bodytec]

man with your tolerance,you won't feel the H unless you double dose or something.
LSD is sooo powerful that it blocks most things that are tolerated like alcohol

[More Feen]

I agree with many posts above.

Usually the body high that comes with a good acid or shroom trip blots-out any feelings that opis produce.

Granted, one might be tempted to take more opis to get a response, but when one is tripp'n ballz, taking more opiates than usual can lead some of us to start worrying (TRIPPING) about whether they took too much or not.

This might even lead to:

1) Taking WAY more opiates then intended: "Did I already take 2 more oxi, or not? I'll take 2 more because I don't remember if I actually took them, or was just tripping and THOUGHT I took them." You know, the forgetfulness & confusion that sometimes comes with a good trip.

2) Having a Bad Trip: You worry so much about how much oxi you've taken that you start to convince yourself that you're OD-ing. Then you start getting self-conscious about your breathing, and with a warped sense of time, you think that the 5 seconds between breaths is more like a minute. Then you try to calm yourself by timing your breaths using a watch. Then you consider "what if the clock is running slower than normal" (low batteries), then that means that you are not breathing as much as you should be.

And if you're really tripping hard, you could convince yourself that not only have you taken too much oxi, but that you've already OD'd and are currently dead. Hell, you might even see (imagine) yourself laying on the floor, lifeless, while your soul/mind/spirit is floating above.

To those folks who have had bad trips, it doesn't take much to set one off, and they can be pure hell.

M F

[God_Albino]

DOB/DOM and opiates were a terrible combination, but then again i couldn't tolerate whichever one that was by itself much less than with even a maintaning dose of 'done and benzos.

(i've never taken the 2c-'s or amt, i just know one or two blotters of the stuff kept me up for days, were violently powerful and 'wrong', didn't feel like acid in body or mind. i'm sure i've posted that exact same thing multiple times here, can't remember.)

[PiLL CLiNToN]

swim snorted like 6 dillys and took a klonopin and than swim dosed on 2 guy on a bicycle stamps which swim said were green and harrendously hardcore primo shit swims ever encounterd scarch that doing a candyflip acid and ex is pretty instense swim hears so swim would say just the lsd and dillys 1 kpin were an awesome combointation

[nick]

Memories.This was the last time I dropped acid and it was cool to be reminded.

On a practical level,I have one piece of advice,don't shoot up whilst tripping-it's a really ugly experience.

[Opiyum]

Memories.This was the last time I dropped acid and it was cool to be reminded.

On a practical level,I have one piece of advice,don't shoot up whilst tripping-it's a really ugly experience.

I don't think I could manage that. If I could I'm sure it would take a very very long time, or at least feel that way.

Can you still feel a rush from the dope while your tripping or is it overwhelmed.

[nick]

I don't think I could manage that. If I could I'm sure it would take a very very long time, or at least feel that way.

Can you still feel a rush from the dope while your tripping or is it overwhelmed.

Yeah,you still get a rush.I found,if anything,dope will slightly subdue the effects of acid-not a lot and in a very pleasant way.