which rc opiates are the best????

[Slime Machine]

im a heroin addict who recently quit that particular drug. so now im looking for some decent alternatives when i cant find any good pills. i came across a possible source for these 3 compounds: dermorphin, bromadol, o-desmethyltramadol.

im really interested in dermorphin, but i had heard borohydride (the member here, i think thats his name) talk highly of bromadol. so now im all crazy with curiousity. and i dont even like tramadolbut ive heard that this analogue is actually a better drug in many peoples eyes. if i remember correctly it doesnt have the seratonin reuptake shit going on with it (tho i could be wrong, thats what i read on wiki). so i dunno, does anyone have any input on which ones are worth the time and which ones are cool asd fuck? any info is hugely appreciated <3

[strikks]

dermorphin is not really worth a shit unless you do not really have a tolerance IMO and it is DANGEROUS unless you have a way of measuring dosage...i just ordered that shit and while it was okay and enjoyable...it lasted only a very short while and they packaged it in some fucked up shit that i had to "remove'...long story....BUT i heard bromadol was decent....but i never tried it!!

be careful

[Bartholomew]

Bromadol by far. You have to be REALLY careful with it though, I believe it's like around the same potency as sufentanil, which is CRAZY strong. Also, you would need to be EXTREMELY careful with measuring doses. I believe the chemical structure is almost completely to fentanyl, so it's def a good drug. It's just extremely hard to find, extremely dangerous, and extremely hard to get accurate doses.

[Slime Machine]

awesome thanks for the replies. measuring doses was something i was concerned with. tho the compant isnt carrying it yet, and i hjave no idea who it will be sold by weight.... but i read a post a long time ago about a source that had dermorphin and sold it by 1mg incriments. so if the vender i was thinking of using has similar weights available, i guess i could use a syringue to measure out 10's of a mg at a time.

anyone ever try that 4-florococaine shit? i think thats whaT its called anyway, it a new rc... does it numb your throat like regular shit?? i wonder if it could be made into crack and smoked with similar effects.... rcs are great.

[ausativa]

none of them

[borohydride]

AFAIK nobody has been dumb enough to place BDPC (Bromadol) onto the market. I've tried one of the (much) weaker analogues (morphine range). It's a mixed μ/δ agonist but has little affinity for the range of receptors the phenanthracene class (morphine et al) seem to possess. It was good if brief (90 minutes or so).

Whatever you do, don't touch (trans) BDPC - it will like as not kill you. Anything that is fatal under 1mg (it's x 504 morphine) should be left well alone. A grain-of-salt sized piece would finish almost anyone. People argue that making solutions make it safe but if you drop a speck & you or someone else inhales it or whatever... you don't need a diagram.

I have posted a report on BDPC made by an organic chemist - he was used to morphine (could shoot 100mg no problem) & he said 0.1mg was STRONG. A friend took 0.15mg & the effects were 'overwhelming' which suggests a steep dose-response curve (another danger). He admitted that it almost killed him!

If you can find it (and it is there - try Land-der-traeume & eveandrave), nortilidine is excellent. It's about ≈ morphine in potency BUT it's also a DRI (like cocaine) which makes it very nice. There are a few reports on it on the interwebz, but they are mostly in German (Google translate if you don't speak it). I see 2 places selling it in 100mg doses - not cheap! The Chinese are in on the act as well...

Don't expect RC opioids to be any cheaper than the usual - the makers know the value!

[Boy]

Borohydride, Nortilidine and Tilidine are $20+ a milligram. If you buy atleast 100-200mg, they are still $10+ a milligram. You weren't lying! :)

Also, something to read: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12412825

[Underdose]

Man, I KNOW we're not supposed to ask for sources, but I really want to find some Nortilidine. Is it found on regular sites for RC's? or am I going to have to get some kind of license to order it? It has sparked my interest greatly...

[borohydride]

Borohydride, Nortilidine and Tilidine are $20+ a milligram. If you buy atleast 100-200mg, they are still $10+ a milligram. You weren't lying! :)

Also, something to read: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12412825

Errrr,,, don't look at sites selling reference standards, they charge silly money. Look for less conventional sellers - around $200/g

[Slime Machine]

great. thanks again for the replies. the nortilidine sounds much safer and easier to wrap my mind around.

so the dermorphin is too risky to use u think? what are the doses for that... like .05mg? im starting to think that would be tricky to dose on. i wonder how they sell it... is it like a grain of salt in a vial, or is in stored in liquid and sold like that??? 1mg bags of dope.... what the fuck??