Avinza IV Help [Archive]

JunkedOut

09-07-2006, 12:42 PM

Hello I am new to Opiophile. I have a quantity of 60mg EX-R Morphine Sulfate capsules, brand name Avinza. I dislike administering Morphine Sulfate orally or nasally, I think it gives a dirty dysphoric nausiating high "compared to the 20mg Oxycodone Ive been insullfating". I recently crushed and chopped finely 60 mg of MS and eyeballed half the pile estimating 30mg and put it into a spoon with water and heated and mixed it "Avinza so it has different inactive ingredients I am not familiar with" dropped the cotton ball into the spoon and sucked up the liquid which was annoying because of air bubbles and the plunger being pulled to far up and liquid still being in the cotton ball. Well I shot up IV and it was great but it burned compared to the Baxter morphine pre liquid I aquired years ago which was made for Intra muscular injection. After i enjected which had to be perfect to the vein a big ass bump appeared but didn't bruise. Well My questions are

1: What is the best way to filter MS out of Avinza for IV Use

2: How come Im getting huge bumps when i know the injection was perfect "maybe because Extracted pill liquid?"

3: Is IM injection a better way to go about administering MS

Thank You

superman

09-08-2006, 07:43 PM

1: do it just like you would do an oxy, crush, cook, let cool to room temp, push away formed skin on surface of water, toss in cotton, suck up through cotton.

2: the bump is because you missed the vein, plain and simple.

3: IM administration of pills is dangerous. only IV them. if you want to IM morphine, use ampoules

BigWaves

09-08-2006, 08:33 PM

::QUOTE::Hello I am new to Opiophile. I have a quantity of 60mg EX-R Morphine Sulfate capsules, brand name Avinza. I dislike administering Morphine Sulfate orally or nasally, I think it gives a dirty dysphoric nausiating high "compared to the 20mg Oxycodone Ive been insullfating". I recently crushed and chopped finely 60 mg of MS and eyeballed half the pile estimating 30mg and put it into a spoon with water and heated and mixed it "Avinza so it has different inactive ingredients I am not familiar with" dropped the cotton ball into the spoon and sucked up the liquid which was annoying because of air bubbles and the plunger being pulled to far up and liquid still being in the cotton ball. Well I shot up IV and it was great but it burned compared to the Baxter morphine pre liquid I aquired years ago which was made for Intra muscular injection. After i enjected which had to be perfect to the vein a big ass bump appeared but didn't bruise. Well My questions are

1: What is the best way to filter MS out of Avinza for IV Use

::RELPY:: I can't say I've heard about Avinza™, but I know Kadian™ is a BITCH and you're better off with Contins. If you're feeling adventurous then you may want to try what I did; I managed to coax a bang out of a Kadie-100 (I have the tolerance of a rhino so Your Mileage May Vary) using a cold water extraction and at LEAST a 1cc fit. You need to start with about 150 "units" (as in the insulin measure, a "U-100" syringe. You may need to fill it more than once depending on the calibrations. REGARDLESS they ARE "universal" and you count off whatever is printed on the barrel. plain and simple. U-100 measures should ALWAYS be clearly stated as different than those of other metric or standard liquid measure;i.e.;cc's. Things can get screwed up for people if they're imjpaired and reading a recipe incorrectly. The "Unit" measure is unique to insulin, and the syringes made to deliver it. Hence notable to junkies like us ;)
Anyway you just let that crushed Avinza sit in the water for at least 15 minutes. NO HEAT, you'll trap ms molecules in the voodoo that they put in there to keep you from doing exactly that [and God knows what else with these new sustained ms forms]. Just remember you may need to add more water. You'll know when you've extracted most of the ms because it has a bitter taste-you'll be able to check the filter. And you may need a few filters. Use [real] COTTON filters NOT CIGARETTE FILTERS!!! Those fuckers contain little tiny glass shards. NICE huh? I didn't know that unilt recently. I've managed getting a whole 100 contin in a ½cc fit, but that's a totally different cook alltogether. And extracts more morphine than you can even come CLOSE to with a pellet/bead type controlled-release ms

2: How come Im getting huge bumps when i know the injection was perfect "maybe because Extracted pill liquid?"

Yes you must have missed. Even a little drop will cause mischief. DONT PRESS ON IT OR PUT A TOURNIQUET ABOVE IT. You'll exacerbate what could become a VERY nasty abcess requiring an awkward/uncomfortable/revealing² ER/doctor's visit. Give that arm a break. And if you INSIST upon riding the needle then there's a way I'll detail in another post about how to pre-"jack it off" and get a better blood return so you don't miss as much.

²(don't even TRY to hide those tracks from these professionals)

3: Is IM injection a better way to go about administering MS

Thank You

Heyyyyy, no problem :) As for IM I wouldn't try it with cooked down pills. (ABCESS CITY. It'll feel like missing a vein. But much worse. A full fit of cooked ms pill liquid anywhere but a vein is gonna light up like the Fourth) ONLY made-for IM/IV/SC hospital ampoules. Pills, FORGET IT!!! Like the man above^^^ said, pills are meant to be SWALLOWED NOT INJECTED...but if you must, I've heard from a reliable friend that a sympathectic doctor once told him that MS Contins are full of relatively benign buffers and are as a result one of the [I]safer pills to cook and inject...I'm assuming "IV" and this was referring to the PF™ (Purdue Frederick Pharam )"Brand" Ms Contin® The generics that I get are by Mallinckrodt and I've found there's a better way to cook these than the way I used to struggle with those gooey PFs. That means there's something different in these hence I can basically throw the "safe to shoot" info down the shitter. Anyways gotta run I hope this was helpful to you...be careful!!! and do't forget to let us know how your travels progress!

-Dave

JunkedOut

09-09-2006, 12:17 AM

thnks guys
for the information

vanilla_mlkshake2007

09-09-2006, 03:26 PM

BigWaves

09-09-2006, 09:31 PM

I Iv'd the 120 milligram Avinzas for 5 years and I am no chemist but I found this worked best for me.Crush up lil balls with a mortar and pestal,dump into spoon and then heat with lighter for only 3-4 seconds anymore then that will make itgel up and cause problems clogging the needle,put cotten in draw up after it cools and shoot .Greatest Rush I ever experienced.

5 years really? I didn't know they were out that long. When I went to ask my doc for an extended release morphine product at first I asked for Kadian, which resulted in a laborious cold warter extraction that I think worked but not enough to make all the effort worth it. Eating them offered about the same effect aside from the pins and needles rush that I STILL haven't decided whether I like, LOL

But a knowledgable morphine guy told me Avinzas AS WELL as Kadian were no bueno for that purpose...I s'pose you can never get enough information.

I've found my slightly risky method for cooking Mallie ms contin 100s to be the best one I've found so far. I haven't tried it with a PF™ MS contin® brand, but those sure used to gel up like bastards. Less "gel" with these...it's more of a "spongy" gel that can be heated enough *PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE* to bind the crap together and leave you a nice pocket of good clear liquid to suck up and shoot.

Well thanks for the info and the chance to offer my 2¢...hope it was helpful to someone.

As usual, regarding my actual participation in any of the above,
I'm going to plead the fifth dimension.

candy

09-10-2006, 12:04 AM

Best not to inject any pills at all. And do not IM crushed pills. You will end up with some ugly abscesses. That bump is either irritation to the site or infiltration of what you injected.

I have had bumps appear at sites of injection that went in with no problem. Anytime you cause an injury to the body, inflammation is the first response. And an injection, is an injury of sorts. No matter how small the needle, you are still inserting it into the skin and in response to this the body reacts by causing inflammation at the site.

Depending on how much you injected, infiltration of the liquid your injecting would cause a hard painful lump and often times you can see it growing as your pushing in the shot. If the bump appeared after you pulled the needle out, then your fine. It is just a reaction to you poking yourself.

When injecting, you can always pull back on the plunger even after you have injected the shot to see if your still in the vein. I did and it just became a habit. After a shot, I would pull back to see if I got a flash of blood to make sure I was in the vein and I would do this as well during the shot if I thought I might of slipped out of the vein. Make sense?

No matter how finely you crush those pills, there is no way to get a sediment free shot. What happens with injecting pills for many who do is that after time, they start to develop scar tissue in the lungs. As the blood passes through the system and into the tiny capillaries of the lungs, those small particles become lodged in the tiny capillaries and this leads to scar tissue forming. Because blood cannot get to those areas, some suffer from respiratory problems after long term use.
Pills are not meant to be injected.

Understand I am not preaching to you or anyone. Just stating the facts. I do warn against doing them IM. You will end up with some nasty abscesses and that only takes the fun out of injecting all together.

I have seen the health risks with those that inject pills and far more are coming in with abscesses from injecting pills than those injecting heroin. With the increase in addiction to prescription opiates, those who inject them are at risk for infections in the lungs and skin infections. Your body doesn't break down and absorb pills the way it does when you swallow them. When they lodge in tiny vessels or are left under the skin, they are not absorbed the way fluid is.

Be careful. I am only advocating safety....It's what I do!

superman

09-10-2006, 05:04 AM

" knowledgable morphine guy told me Avinzas AS WELL as Kadian were no bueno for that purpose"

if you're saying that kadians and Avinza's both cook and shoot just perfectly, then i agree. if not, most on this site know how to do these and have certainly posted on this many times before if you want to check the database.

Bateman54199

03-16-2009, 09:44 PM