Ha ha it didn't work fuckers!!!

[alowishus]

KABUL, Afghanistan - Afghanistan's world-leading opium cultivation rose a "staggering" 59 percent this year, the U.N. anti-drugs chief announced Saturday in urging the government to crack down on big traffickers and remove corrupt officials and police.
The record crop yielded 6,100 tons of opium, or enough to make 610 tons of heroin - outstripping the demand of the world's heroin users by a third, according to U.N. figures.

http://my.earthlink.net/article/int?guid=20060902/44f901c0_3ca6_15526200609021416951396

[antony]

yea, the word on the street is that the CIA is gonna put into place this rouge gov't that is very hardlined muslim, and they'll crack down on the poppy growing.

they call them the TALIBAN

[jwalm]

cnn was airing a brief clip about this today

showed a poppy farmer and his crops:)

[alowishus]

Well that's what it said in the article...

"He said the Taliban - which managed to nearly eradicate Afghanistan's poppy crop in 2001, just before their ouster for giving refuge to Osama bin Laden - now profit from the trade."


I feel torn by my felings right now....:rolleyes: :cool: :o :D :D (give me MORE DRUGS!!!!!!!)

[antony]

problem is the Taliban doesn't know wrong from wrong

[Opiyum]

^^^^^^^Right.....

[bodangly]

Fact is, poppies are putting food on the tables of many poor farmers in Afghanistan that would be starving otherwise. +1 for drugs

[devilsdrug]

what the fuck kinda cia is it when the fuckers dont smuggle it in an sell it to their own kids

[blackdog]

hell they saw what happened due to there extreme ism we cant get it into the countrie or out of theres and thats a long money train to not have .much better with then without
dawg

[Paregoric Kid]

the taliban didn't try to get rid of poppies because they were anti-drug, they tried to get rid of poppies so that the opium they had stockpiled would rise in price. the problem is no one can control the market, when you try to artificially control the price of opium some other country is going to step up and fill the hole they created, so their opium never really went up in price.

[Chipdorq]

Does Afghani Op/H make it into the US? Do we get all ours from Columbia and Mexico? Can we go on a whirlwind tour of the poppy growing countries? PLEASE!?

[Paregoric Kid]

opium is grown all over the world and it gets to where it is wanted, which is all over the world, but particularly North America, Western Europe, and Australia. a lot of it comes from afghanistan, the golden triangle, southeast asia and the unrefined black tar comes from Mexico and South America.

[Luravex]

I'm surprised more poppies aren't grown domestically (I'm here in the US).....or up in Canada, which I know for sure has some legal farms, but also has a lot of remote, wide open spaces, and a climate very hospitable to poppy......also, I think much of Australia would be good turf as well given the abundant sunshine they enjoy down there.....and Holland.....and Russia.....and North Africa.....just about anywhere really 'cept Greenland...

I mean, its a lot less conspicuous than MJ and has a shorter growing season (2 crops a year)....I don't ask why, I ask why not....??

Not to mention it would probably bring prices down, and would help against unwittingly funding repressive militas and unsavory regimes in other parts of the world....

[antony]

^^^close to australia, they grow it in tanzmania.

[kdreimiller]

I often wonder why more poppies arent grown domestically. Maybe heavier charges? but shit, humboldt county practically has farms of MJ growing and of course NorCal grass is nearly legendary in qaulity so it's clearly not too hard to have illegal MJ farms in NorCal.

And NorCal has a very hospitable growing climate which I think would be good for poppies as well (I'm not sure on this one).

An aside, I thought mexico sent up the tar to the Southwest and I thought Columbia sent up the raw to the east coast. I'm curious as to how much dope comes from MX and Columbia and where it goes and the same for the Golden Triangle.

[antony]

I often wonder why more poppies arent grown domestically. Maybe heavier charges? but shit, humboldt county practically has farms of MJ growing and of course NorCal grass is nearly legendary in qaulity so it's clearly not too hard to have illegal MJ farms in NorCal.



It's one less thing for people to rip off. It's hard enough to control something illegal thats a finished product, but when you throw in acres of fresh poppies, the farmers are gonna become corrupt, and the general population would have a conniption fit.

[expo]

I recently read an awsome article about Herion and the whole process from poppies to users, its pretty interesting:

http://opioids.com/heroin/heroin-inc.html

"As it [Asian Heroin] approaches its target market, it brushes up against the competition, including Mexican-produced Black Tar, known derisively as Mexican Mud because of its poor quality; the more superior Mexican Brown in powder form; and especially high-grade Colombian White, its biggest rival. (Afghan heroin is conspicuously absent at San Ysidro and only occasionally shows up in the United States, in places like Detroit. Its principal market is Europe, where it arrives from Turkey, Russia and the Balkans.) "
....
"One sure sign of the high regard in which traffickers hold San Ysidro's defenses is the risk premium attached to making it across. If getting heroin into China or Thailand bears a markup of $1,000 per kilo, here it's a different story altogether. After it makes the 100-yard journey across the border, a kilo of Black Tar will soar in value to $54,000 once safely on the San Diego side. Colombian heroin will rise by as much as 20 times once it gets to Los Angeles. And China White will command well into the six figures once it reaches American soil. "

It was a very good read even though it is rather dated (2002)

[Sitar]

I'm surprised more poppies aren't grown domestically (I'm here in the US).....or up in Canada, which I know for sure has some legal farms, but also has a lot of remote, wide open spaces, and a climate very hospitable to poppy......also, I think much of Australia would be good turf as well given the abundant sunshine they enjoy down there.....and Holland.....and Russia.....and North Africa.....just about anywhere really 'cept Greenland...

I mean, its a lot less conspicuous than MJ and has a shorter growing season (2 crops a year)....I don't ask why, I ask why not....??

Not to mention it would probably bring prices down, and would help against unwittingly funding repressive militas and unsavory regimes in other parts of the world....

Holland actually does supply a lot of the dried pods that are used for floral arrangements (and more) here in the US. They don't just grow tulips there, that's for sure.

[nick]

Here's a wild idea.Why doesn't the US/UN/UK buy the opium harvest and use it for analgesia in the third world,where many people die in agony.Goddam war on drugs,makes me sick.
P.S. check out the senlis council,a bunch of anarcho/drug policy weirdos from Switzerland for more info.

[Sitar]

Anyone else confused by the article expo posted?

It says that H is sold in capsules containing ONE MILLIGRAM of H, and some of it is typically less than 10% purity. And the capsules typically sell for $10 a piece.

Now, I've never used Heroin, never even seen the stuff in real life, and I don't even know anyone that's used it, but I'm pretty sure that 1 milligram wouldn't do shit to anyone.

The article says that grams of H are divided by street-level dealers into capsules containing one milligram each. What the fuck street dealer is gonna sit and make a THOUSAND capsules each with a miniscule speck of powder in each, out of each gram? Is this really how it works?

And who the hell actually pays $10 for a milligram of H? I thought even the smallest available amount of dope usually sold was typically about 20 milligrams? 1 milligram of H is only equal to about 4 mgs. of Morphine, and I KNOW that's almost nothing.

Somebody educate me here, please.

[nick]

The smallest amp of diamorphine (pure H) available is 10mgs.1mg of H is pointless.

[blackdog]

ALRIGHTY THEN!!