instead of shooting morphine..

[albanese]

instead of shooting morphine what else can i do with it. i live in costa rica and can get it easily along with other pharmacuticals. also what else could i be getting over the counter down here? + any way to make oxycontin myself?

[bi11i]

instead of shooting morphine what else can i do with it. just about anything you'd want to, I'm guessing. I imagine the closest you'd get to an injection-type effect would be to use a medicine dropper and drip it into your nose.

Under the tongue? Inside your bung?

[albanese]

what about just drinking it? or drying it and snorting it? and dripping it into your nose? whats that all about, just pretty much snorting it up in liquid form?

[bi11i]

and dripping it into your nose? whats that all about, just pretty much snorting it up in liquid form?I'm surprised in how few people use this method. This is how I did my very first dose of Heroin (thanks to jacky, the cocksucker) cooking it down just like a shot and then dripping it back into my nasal passage. The rush certainly wasn't the same, but the high definitely was. With something as refined as Morphine, I would think you'd be able to avoid the unpleasant taste and drip sensation that comes with doing heroin this way.

[Paregoric Kid]

plug it or sublingually/bucally take it, if you won't do it any of those ways you could always snort it but the first two are probably more effective. you could also take tagamet and grapefruit juice and just swallow it, this would prevent first pass metabolizm. you could also nebulize it, which would be very, very effective. also, you could vaporize/smoke it

[shaunclo]

Paregoric, what would be the process in which you described vaporizing / smoke? How would you smoke morphine?

[Paregoric Kid]

depends what form the morphine is, I'm pretty sure it needs to be in base form, but you could do it the same way heroin is smoked tinfoil or other ways. nebulizing would be better though.
here is some info:

Dissolve the pill in hot water, then let the soln cool in the 'fridge. This will cause the wax to resolidify (it's quite hard to the touch at 4'C),. Once you've separated out the wax, add some strong ammonia soln to the morphine sulphate soln, and morphine freebase will precipitate out
The ammonia soln you need is simply ammonia dissolved in water (nothing else). In case anyone is curious, the reason sodium hydroxde wont work is that it forms a salt (soluble) with the phenolic OH group of the morphine molecule.

Morphine free base has a solubility of less than 1 in 1000 for water, so most should be precipitated out with the ammonia soln
Requirements The invention could be made as elaborately as you like. I will explain it using the easiest materials available. The following are all that are required.

toilet paper tube
a small sheet of aluminum foil (2" x 6")
a roll of tape--preferably duct tape
a knife
Construction

1. Mold the piece of foil around the tube as shown in the image on below on the left. 2. Tape one of the short sides of the foil to the tube, about one inch from end of the tube as shown in the figure below on the right. 3. If you are so inclined, cut a small hole in the tube for use as a carburator. Fold the foil piece up slightly, so it is horizontal when the top end of the tube is put to the lips. The heroin can then be placed on this horizontal part of the aluminum foil. One hand holds the tube to the mouth. The other holds a lighter below the foil to heat and vaporize the heroin.

[JoyDivision]

instead of shooting morphine what else can i do with it.
You can send it to me hehe j/k ;-).

Some of these methods could be applied but they are mainly aimed at oral narcotics like Codeine, OxyCodone, HydroCodone, etc:
3. The orally effective narcotics have much in common with alcohol as far as absorption goes, and the following methods have been demonstrated to have at least some effectiveness in getting the drug into the system more quickly:
a. Mixing cough syrup or solutions of drug with carbonated beverages
b. Mixing cough syrup or solutions of drug with Gatorade
c. Mixing cough syrup or solutions of drug with warm brandy
d. Using one form or another of the opiate to fortify an over-the-counter cough syrup
e. Preparing a sodium bicarbonate solution or capsule containing the drug
f. Dissolving/mixing the drug in soup or chocolate pudding
g. Mixing codeine cough syrup or liquid into tonic water

Found these via: http://www.coldwaterworld.com/potentiators.html

[albanese]

nebulize it...spray yourself?where?

[red26]

Is nebulizing it just a way of putting it in a nasal srayer?

[Paregoric Kid]

no
nebulizing involves putting medicine in a water/saline solution and turning it into a mist that is inhaled through the mouth usually

[red26]

If you were to get it into a nasal sprayer , it would work probably right? Just wondering for future (not to steal somebody elsesline but)" freelance pharmacutical reserch".I wonder if it would work with my methodone? I first started thinking about this method while I was doing coke a few years back but never got around to actually give it a shot! hehehe...

[chucky]

Why not shoot it. It is the most effective, but make sure you use a clean rig, and if you have never shot up get someone to teach tou. I think you would waste your time any other way.

[Peripat]

Unfortunately, in this day and age the old adage of "a new fit for every hit" doesn't quite cover everything... you have to make sure EVERYTHING you use is clean, if you're shooting up with others. This is how I've managed to remain Hepatitis C-free (as well as HIV-free) for close to ten years now...

chucky, if people don't use needles already, we really shouldn't be encouraging them to do so. candy has addressed this on another thread - there's a book called "getting off right" which is available from needle exchanges in both Australia and California (and elsewhere, I just forget where), which interested parties can Private Message candy about through this board.

[chucky]

Agreeable, but if used in a safe matter,ie;clean needles,not sharing ,and usinf the rig only once you can come out unscathed.sorry if i encouraged the writer ,will refrain in the future.

[red26]

I have shot methodone both I.V. and I.M. and it's not that great of a drug to begin with. I wnt through a phase of shooting everything. I almost died from PCP. Nothing like spikin' up fermaldahyde, horse tranquillizer, and whatever else was in that batch. I totally agree about discouraging somebody from shooting up for the first time. Everyonce in a while I'll blast off but it's pretty rare for me these days. True story, When I was first learning how to do it(I was afraid to ask anyone how) I was shootin' coke and I thought it was a good idea if I mixed it with rubbing alcohol and then cook it alittle, just alittle, before I put it in my arm. I should have at least gone blind from those few days. Yes , it should be discouraged , but if the person is gonna do it wether you show them or not, dont even hesitate. And please, dont ask what was going through my head.

[candy]

I don't advise anyone start injecting unless they are already familiar with it. The mucous membranes in the nose absorb much more quickly than orally, if you are looking for a quicker rush.

Peripat is absolutely right on about keeping all equipment clean. I myself got Hep C from someone I shared equipment with and we thought bleaching was safe. This of course was several years ago, before we knew that bleaching does not kill the Hep C virus.
In another forum, for anyone interested in some reading...Go to totse.com and there is a post on the booklet, "Getting off Right." Even for those who are not so new to injecting, this can be helpful.

I myself will not inject pills, no matter how finely crushed they are. Most pills are not made to be crushed and if they are crushed are done so to make swallowing them easier, such as when put into food or thick liquids.
Injecting pills can lead to embolism which can block airways and lead to death. Even the smallest particles can become lodged in the very smallest of veins that lead to the lungs.
Remember when injecting, you are dealing with blood that is returning to the lungs to be oxygenated. I could put it into more techinal terms, but the point should be made. This is also why injecting into the feet or legs is dangerous. There is a higher incidence of clots when injecting into the lower extremities. Venous return from the lower extremities is slow and when tying off, the blood pools and clots form, sending the clots through to the lungs when injected.
I also have one more rule I live by...I never get anyone else off and if they are a first time injector, which I have always tried to avoid being near, I recommend trying a test shot.

[Peripat]

candy's right on the money, as usual, and being trained more thoroughly in these matters (nurse versus me the ex-needle exchange worker) she has of course put it more thoroughly.

The link for "Getting Off Right" is at http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/miscellaneous_drug_information/164903.html

There's another reason you should not inject pills... and that's because they will collapse your veins quicker than just about anything else I know of! (Be thankful I don't have a digital camera easily to hand, otherwise I'd post a pic of the vein in my left arm which succumbed when I allowed someone else to talk me into this nonsense!)

The message I would stress above all is: be as safe as possible, be as informed as possible (the internet is your friend :) ), and don't always succumb to peer pressure. As your mother always said, "If everyone else was hurling themselves over the side of a cliff, would you do it too?"

[peacefulwarrior]

paregoric...do you have the website the toiletpaper vaporizer is from? i cant figure it out without the pictures.

the lightbulb vaporizer works pretty well too...

http://www.overgrow.com/growfaq/1376

[Paregoric Kid]

it's somewhere on heroinhelper.com

[thbronze]

Agreeable, but if used in a safe matter,ie;clean needles,not sharing ,and usinf the rig only once you can come out unscathed.sorry if i encouraged the writer ,will refrain in the future.


There are web sources for needles/syringes boxes of 100-buy em,byo

[reddragon3668]

this thread has been interesting... especially the dripping into the nose part. I get those 15mg MSIR tablets every month and swallowing them is practically useless... can you just dissolve these in water and drip into the nose with a dropper?

[psychotiKK]

I'm surprised in how few people use this method. This is how I did my very first dose of Heroin (thanks to jacky, the cocksucker) cooking it down just like a shot and then dripping it back into my nasal passage. The rush certainly wasn't the same, but the high definitely was. With something as refined as Morphine, I would think you'd be able to avoid the unpleasant taste and drip sensation that comes with doing heroin this way.

I used this method with heroin.. I learned it from my older sister. Absolute best way to consume H, except when IVed, obviously. There's no real rush when snorted, but the high is still strong. The drip from tar H is lovely, but that's my personal opinion. Its just a reminder to me that I'm about to be fucked up. :)

Smoking H sucks.