What worked for me: Homemade Withdrawl

[Maksene Delianan]

Whether you are withdrawing to quit or withdrawing because you don't have a choice, I would like to share the only thing that works for me. Also keeping in mind that this way the time during withdrawl will go by quicker and quicker is much better :).

1. Sleep for 10 to 11 hours a night, as that will give you less time to relentlessly obsess.

2. When you wake, as hard as it may be, try to begin the day actively immediately. Slow down as a process eventually through the day. Do some laundry, make a light small healthy breakfast meal, involve yourself in a light household cleaning activity if possible, do research that interests you on the computer, as that will take your mind off of the withdrawl a tiny bit at least. Also, time tends to fly by on the internet. Do research or join bulletin boards that you didn't have time for while you were on the meds because you were too busy doing other stuff. A sense of accomplishment, no matter how small, helps. Also, all of the activities I just mentioned are mainly for the purpose of making time go by fast, as that seems to be the main key to dealing with withdrawls.

3. After you've been awake for 4 to 5 hours do some small organization task, or if you are feeling really lethargic at this point, watch a movie. Even better, if you feel even the slightest ability to leave the house, try to watch a movie in a theater, as getting out of the house may be hard, but afterward you will feel a little better. During the movie, take 6 Immodium AD's. They last for quite a while to fend off the bad physical effects of withdrawl. Actually, they peak at about 36 hours after taking them, so taking more the next night at the same time will ensure that you never need to worry about going through any traumatic physical withdrawl symptoms.

4. Rest, take a bath/hot shower or do some meditation. Even if the meditation is only closing your eyes, turning on some relaxing music and trying really hard not to think about anything at all for a while. When a thought comes into your head, immediately recognize it and try to push it away.

5. Take a short walk around the neighborhood. This is to ensure that your body will be as tired (in a healthy way) as your mind is when it is time for bed. That way you will reduce the possibility for night sweats and insomnia.

6. Try to recrute a very good friend in this process, even if they don't fully understand what is going on. Try to explain it to them and ask them to try and motivate you as well as be interested/supportive.

7. Watch tv when it comes to be late evening. Reading works too, but I have found that people tend to be in too much of a malaise to actively read. Tell yourself that this is your time to veg out and wind down for the evening. Almost like a piss poor excuse for meditation. But hey, if it works, it works.

8. About 2 hours before you want to go to sleep take a couple muscle relaxers. This will stop restless legs/arms before they begin when you are trying to fall asleep. They also help you fall asleep in general. If you have any sleeping pills, try to take the minimum amount recommended along with the 2 muscle relaxers. You don't want to over do all these pills that help you to sleep, just take the right amount to ensure a decent, half-way recouperative sleep. The sleeping pill will interact with the muscle relaxers, so the trick is to have this happen in a positive way, not for the effect of feeling like a zombified freak the next day.

9. Throughout the day, take Ibuproffens as needed, but don't over do it on these, as they can really harm the body when taken in large amounts.

***IF YOU TRY THIS ROUTINE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND FIND ITS NOT WORKING ENOUGH, but can't go to an addiction specialist for some reason, try to go to a general practitioner doctor and ask for a small amount of Tramadol. Doctors usually don't mind prescribing this medication and espcially in small amounts. Don't tell them it's for withdrawl, tell them it's for a toothache or something and you can't get a dentist appointment for a week. Be creative, I guess. Taking 3 tramadol in the evening while evenually tapering them off will take care of what the Immodium AD's would, in the case that Immodium doesn't work for your specific body chemistry for some reason. Also, Tramadols are super cheap, so if you ask the pharmacy for the generic version they should only cost around 15 bucks tops. Costco has the cheapest Tramadol, and you don't need a membership to use the pharmacy.

Hope this helps! It should.

[orangejuice]

Great stuff man. But the one thing that makes me jealous of a lot of people, is that some actually have time to do all of that stuff. Im sure it would definitly work, in fact ive tried it in short, tho. I as some on here have a full time job, then when i get home a part time job taking care of my mom. The second one isnt really that bad but sometimes it can get overwhelming, and especially while withdrawing. Another thing is that the only thing i really suffer w/ds from is methadone. In that case i would have to do this "method" every day for what seems forever... My question is for anyone who has experience. What does one do if they gotta go to work. And im not talking about a desk job or something like that. More on the lines of physical labor with strenuous activity. They must attend to get by in life, and even if they didnt they still have a parent to take care of alone. What does one do when there entire days are filled with alot of hard work. I find my days becoming more and more fucking tough when i wake up w/ding and have to go make a living. I kno, i kno, as some will say. Working is a fact of life, well call me a w/d pussy. I pretty much am lol. anyways ..ranting ... just wanna kno some opinions. Sorry to hijack thread ... it was a really good seeming method..

[Coddfish]

1. Sleep for 10 to 11 hours a night, as that will give you less time to relentlessly obsess......



You lost me here.

[orangejuice]

Took me a min too codd, lol, i think what he meant is the more time you sleep away, the less time you have left to "relentlessly obsess" during the day.

[dorje]

I don't see how you sleep for 11 hours if you are in withdrawals. ???

[orangejuice]

I don't see how you sleep for 11 hours if you are in withdrawals. ???
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But yeah, this is a good point.

[devilsdrug]

hell ive never slept ten hours in my whole life

[nick]

I don't mean to sound harsh,but the chances of me doing anything in the first 72 hours of wd are slim to none.Let alone cooking a light meal. If you get by with this schedule good luck.

[vaxn8]

I don't see how you sleep for 11 hours if you are in withdrawals. ???

I don't mean to sound harsh,but the chances of me doing anything in the first 72 hours of wd are slim to none.Let alone cooking a light meal. If you get by with this schedule good luck.


Both of you guys are right on. I can't leave the bathroom floor for at least 3 days, immodium or not. There is also no way in hell I am going to even try to eat or drink, that would just be insane. And no way in hell am I capable of cooking! Hell, I barely do that not-w/ding! Lovely plan, but doesn't seem realistic at all for me!

[jab]

If detoxing was this eazy I'd do it once a week.

This is great advice for someone with a very VERY small habit (think 4-6 perc or vics a day, for less than 2 months). But to anyone with any time in the game, this advice is near comical.

[LayinLow]

You lost me here.


This made for a great morning laugh, thanks Cod :D I had to w/d off methadone (110mgs) and xanax cold turkey, and I sat in the hospital watching old sitcoms on Nick@Night, I didn't sleep no more than 20 minutes. Whoever posted that w/d method had good intentions, but no way in hell it works out like that, ever.
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[candy]

It does sound too good to be true! I have never known anyone with an addiction to opiates being able to do this! Hell, I know for myself when trying to withdrawal from heroin addiction, it was several days before I could even eat a light meal, let alone feel well enough to do housework or cook.
It just doesn't sound realistic for someone with a heavy addiction to opiates, especially opiates such as Heroin, Methadone, Oxycontin, or Morphine, to just name a few. I have gone through w/d myself a few times and have known others who have done the same personally and professionally and I have never known anyone to be able to do this without being assisted with meds at home or in a detox center. To be able to sleep for 10 hours a night...I would have needed to be heavily sedated.

Maybe you could clarify what drug you were detoxing off of and how long you were addicted?

I am not stating that this is not possible, but doubtful with someone who is addicted to a more potent opiate with a long addiction to opiates.

[vanilla_mlkshake2007]

I guess it would depend what you are addicted to and how long you've been addicted and so forth.When I read step 1 I knew this could definately not be for a person who even has a addiction to vicodins or darvacets,let alone something like morphine or heroin.I am sure the intentions were meant well but most of us have addictions that have gone far beyond even making it past your first step.Have you ever been severly addicted to an opiate?or maybe this is for withdrawals for gambling or overeating or something.Not for me sorry!

[Opiyum]

Yeah that first part is hysterical. Thats kinda the whole point of the AAD shit. Sleep through it all. If I could sleep I would have slept for weeks straight.
One thing that helped me in times of need was punching brick walls. This localizes your pain for a few seconds. For a moment the only thing that hurts are your knuckles. It's quite releaving.
That and masturbation. That gives you another five to ten seconds, upon climax, of relief. That is of course if you can get a hard on.

[Fleeting_Glimpse]

I heard a drug called naproxen is supposed to be good for withdawl

[Opiyum]

Naproxen is an anti-inflamatory. My mother has a shitload that she doesnt even use anymore. I, years ago, downed a few thousand milligrams and noticed nothing as far as lessening the sickness.

It is one of the active ingredients in Aleve. When I first heard that it could be beneficial I, along with my Sous Chef, downed a large amount of Aleve. No help there either. My mom has pure Naproxen so i figured maybe a higher dose would help....Nope.

It may help others though

[Babydollangel]

for me it goes somthing like this....run out of doc (already panicking at this point KNOWING what is going to start happening)

Lay around in the bed lifeless, making the occasional long haul (and i do mean walking to the next room to go to the bathroom every 5 mintutes seems like a hike to hell and back) and then back to the bed, fall onto of the bed and wait and agonize, contact every person i know whom might have just 'a lil' of doc to get by until supplied again. Every min seems like hours..nothing seems to distract from this..NOTHING !

anything else beyond this hasnt worked no matter how hard I try....

I think the original poster really did have good intentions at heart and maybe it would work for some but i have honestly TRIED to mentally make myself have a better attitude about wd hopeing to kinda put mind over matter to get by and make it easier but to no avail as of yet...

so original poster, your very lucky (and not very addicted IMO) so for that be thankful..i only wish your plan would work for me :(

[Babydollangel]

I heard a drug called naproxen is supposed to be good for withdawl
Got a whole bottle of it sitting right here...basically i think its like a 'supped' up aleve (motrin)..not sure..could be wrong but I do know that it doesnt seem to help wd any :( ..sorry just my experience with it!

[CUBErt]

This method seems good maybe during the days after physical symptoms are over, or to keep the mental cravings at bay. Every time I've gone off of opiates for a few weeks or so, I always stock up on Suboxone for the first couple of days. If I had Suboxone I could use this method I think. But yea, just straight cold turkey this has way too much going on. I would just be lying there, and the only getting up I would do would be to piss, MAYBE shit, and then pace around.

[alowishus]

This method seems good maybe during the days after physical symptoms are over, or to keep the mental cravings at bay. Every time I've gone off of opiates for a few weeks or so, I always stock up on Suboxone for the first couple of days. If I had Suboxone I could use this method I think. But yea, just straight cold turkey this has way too much going on. I would just be lying there, and the only getting up I would do would be to piss, MAYBE shit, and then pace around.

Too true true, just get up to walk around and lay back down a less sweat soaked area.:(

[CUBErt]

Too true true, just get up to walk around and lay back down a less sweat soaked area.:(

Ah, also true, except my sweat soaked area follows me... in my pants... yuck... :(

[alowishus]

Ah, also true, except my sweat soaked area follows me... in my pants... yuck... :(


I may hate myself in the morning for this but, what sweat soaked area follows you in my pants?



Do you sit or stand when you wizz?:rolleyes:

[CUBErt]

Lol, I don't piss myself. I just sweat profusely and alot of it happens to be concentrated in my nether regions during withdrawals.

[alowishus]

Well ya I got that but the question remains;Do you sit or stand when you wizz?

Boy or Girl? pink or blue? dolls or Action figures!!

[chemboy7]

^^^Seems like a squatter to me, but I got no room to talk... sometimes that's the only way I can blast off even alittle bit of dribble.

[alowishus]

but I got no room to talk... sometimes that's the only way I can blast off even alittle bit of dribble.


:D :D :D I think I'll go sit down rite now:D :D :D

[CUBErt]

I stand, and I enjoy action figures

[halfalien_s4]

damn, i mean...if we all had the full blown flu as wd's mimick....would we even follow any of these steps? I THINK NOT....i rest my case.

[freedomclub]

"1. Sleep for 10 to 11 hours a night."

Why stop there, Dr. Dummy? Why not sleep though the whole withdrawal. If you could sleep, I never could when I was withdrawing.

[nick]

Hell at the height of my habit I slept 12 hours a day.I'd wake up to fix then go back to sleep.what a fucking waste of life,huh.

[alowishus]

I stand, and I enjoy action figures

You play with dolls???!!!





:D :p

[blackdog]

Ah, also true, except my sweat soaked area follows me... in my pants... yuck... :(

I may hate myself in the morning for this but, what sweat soaked area follows you in my pants?



Do you sit or stand when you wizz?:rolleyes:

Lol, I don't piss myself. I just sweat profusely and alot of it happens to be concentrated in my nether regions during withdrawals.

Well ya I got that but the question remains;Do you sit or stand when you wizz?

Boy or Girl? pink or blue? dolls or Action figures!!

^^^Seems like a squatter to me, but I got no room to talk... sometimes that's the only way I can blast off even alittle bit of dribble.

:D :D :D I think I'll go sit down rite now:D :D :D

I stand, and I enjoy action figures

damn, i mean...if we all had the full blown flu as wd's mimick....would we even follow any of these steps? I THINK NOT....i rest my case.

Damnwell i'wonder is this section now abridged or is it unabridged???? damned if i know???
da/dawgg:p

[CUBErt]

You play with dolls???!!!





:D :p

Bah, I give up :confused-

:p :finger4u: :p

Alright I think thats enough smilies.

[bronyraur]

this is the best joke I've heard all week!:rolleyes: this would work if you took one T3 every 5 years! Jesus christ I hope this is a joke. I would love to see someone follow these instructions to the a "T".

[vaxn8]

I would love to see someone follow these instructions to the a "T".

Me too! I personally couldn't get past the first word in step 1! I don't know about the rest of you, but sleep is the last thing I am able to do, even at low doses. With nothing and w/ding sleep is just not going to happen for me. Even if I had something powerful enough to knock me out for a while, how would you avoid a bathroom for 10-12 hours? I couldn't and don't know anyone who could. It has got to be for someone coming off a script for hydro that was taken as written for just enough time to pick up a little phys addiction.

[madnesscult]

Heh...when I was trying to get off of sub, I thought that getting out of the house would make me feel better, or at least distract me some - NOPE. Although I did notice that driving around blasting music made me feel a little better. But with gas prices as they are, I couldn't keep that up for very long.
As for the sleeping thing, I wish I was able to sleep for more than 20 minutes at a time, if that, during WDs. I've found that the only thing that helps me sleep is some vicodins, although they pretty much stopped working after 3 days. I had a terrible experience with muscle relaxers once...

Does anyone else notice that their sweat smells of dope when WDing?

[Maksene Delianan]

Hey, sorry it took me so long to reply to anything. Stuff is crazy at this point in my life.

Anyway...how I sleep for 10 or 11 hours is with a combo of serious situational depression, high-dose amitriptyline and hopefully, if it's around, some soma or phenergan. I don't take much soma or phenergan cuz i don't wanna OD or anything, but I am able to sleep that long. For me, the whole bathroom part doesn't seem to effect me to the extent that it does some people. If I start to wake up too early, I tell myself that I don't want to be awake yet, as that would seriously suck, because that means more hours in hell than I have to bear, and I am somehow able to send myself back to sleep for at least a couple more hours.

I didn't say that I don't wake up in sweats throughout the night, cuz I do, even weeks after my last initial withdrawl. And there is nothing I can do about that really, except maybe hope for the best. I just force myself back to sleep because I picture the alternative of being awake I guess.

<<<<Lay around in the bed lifeless, making the occasional long haul (and i do mean walking to the next room to go to the bathroom every 5 mintutes seems like a hike to hell and back) and then back to the bed, fall onto of the bed and wait and agonize, contact every person i know whom might have just 'a lil' of doc to get by until supplied again. Every min seems like hours..nothing seems to distract from this..NOTHING !>>>>

I like this, because it's true. When I clutched on to the routine I mentioned at the beginning of this post, it was more like after the initial withdrawal period...like after a few days of semi-eternal damnation. But it's still not fun yet at that point, and it probably never will be.

Anyway, I'm not into the whole withdrawl period anyway. Too horrible in it's initial phase and too terribly boring after that. Like watching paint peel, or you life peel, or something. But serious good luck to anyone wanting to do that permanently.

[Maksene Delianan]

BTW, these things that you can do to help, but aren't really meant to be followed to a T. Maybe in some kind of a super structured rehab that would work, but at home, by yourself, no...Again, I was able to do this only if I forced myself to the extreme, only after the intial few days AND i was able to come up with a couple tramadol here and there to alleviate some stuff.

[hero 1]

On top of ebvery thing else with wding not being able to sleep is enough to go postal if I could sleep and wd at the same time I would just sleep for a week

[hovadagod]

Imodium is a miracle drug for WD's. Benzo + imodium = the best WD combo assuming you don't have such a high tolerance that imodium doesn't help at a dose you are comfortable taking. But I don't know if it hurts to take 20 imodium or if it's like the other opi's and is safe. If it's safe, this allows you to mentally detox before physically detoxing. Weaning off the imodium is easy until you realize you can score one more time b/c you're doing sooooo well.

[orangejuice]

shit i dont even have TIME to sleep 10 or 12 hours. I work every day most weeks except sunday, so yeah, id like to lay in bed all day like you guys speak of but shit if im that lucky, i got a job and when im not at work, theres more shit to be done around the house, I wish i had it as easy as it seem some of you have, with all the time in the world to w/d...:(

[Digitopium]

Yeah I thought the initial posting of this "idealistic" routine was somewhat commical, as if the person was not withdrawing from OPIATES...Luckily he updated us by saying "Yes all of what I said was possible because I was dosed to the gills on soma and tramadol". NO SHIT soma will knock you the fuck out. My girlfriend in High school used to bring me those Doctor office sample dispenser packs....20 packs of 4 soma pills each in a little infolding tray. Anyway, I remember taking 7 of these once after a long night of 'cid or sassafrass or something similar, and I had to drive my friend home 4 hours later. I took 7 soma at 6am or so...conked out...it was about 10 am and I am driving, barely conscious, and halfway through a left turn through an intersection I conk out and broadside this little mexican jalopy...so I wake up to the sound of metal scraping metal, and Im like "fucking oh shit!! I cant get the police involved, this is texas and I really can only keep one eye open right now!!" So I fucking take off down the street I was turning left on and immediate take a right turn into a neighborhood ( the same neighborhood where my friend lived, luckily ). The guy is hot on my tail in his '83 carolla and my friend is like "turn left...now right....in two intersections turn right again". Needless to say I snapped out of the total fucking stuppor I was in and got all formula 1 behind the wheel of this '98 Explorer! We finally get to his street, and I pull over as he yells "let me out here dude!", and he hops out and all of the sudden the enraged driver pulls right in front of me and gets out of his car. He is a squat, dark skinned hispanic man who looked REALLY fucking pissed and was screaming like "chinga-te puta blah blah frijoles!!"" and all that kinda shit. SO I throw it in reverse and make a U turn, then a right onto a main street and then SPEED the fuck onto the freeway. I lost him on the freeway. AND FOLKS, THIS is what you do when you get involved with what is obviously an uninsured, illegal alien in any type of auto accident. You fucking haul outta there. Especially if you are %3 consciouss because of a massive carisoprodol dose.

So yeah, I could sleep all day and night if I had some goddamn soma for my W/Ds. Luckily I have an endless supply of bupe around now, but that shit will make you damn near asleep and awake at the same time and loving every minute.

The irony is THAT is the easiest drug to get ahold of on the internet while all of us are fishing for fast acting full agonists....

Ok, I'll shut up now. Thats my TRUE saturday night entertainment story for you folks monitoring this nice thread here....:)

[kchampagne]

Whether you are withdrawing to quit or withdrawing because you don't have a choice, I would like to share the only thing that works for me. Also keeping in mind that this way the time during withdrawl will go by quicker and quicker is much better :).

1. Sleep for 10 to 11 hours a night, as that will give you less time to relentlessly obsess.

2. When you wake, as hard as it may be, try to begin the day actively immediately. Slow down as a process eventually through the day. Do some laundry, make a light small healthy breakfast meal, involve yourself in a light household cleaning activity if possible, do research that interests you on the computer, as that will take your mind off of the withdrawl a tiny bit at least. Also, time tends to fly by on the internet. Do research or join bulletin boards that you didn't have time for while you were on the meds because you were too busy doing other stuff. A sense of accomplishment, no matter how small, helps. Also, all of the activities I just mentioned are mainly for the purpose of making time go by fast, as that seems to be the main key to dealing with withdrawls.

3. After you've been awake for 4 to 5 hours do some small organization task, or if you are feeling really lethargic at this point, watch a movie. Even better, if you feel even the slightest ability to leave the house, try to watch a movie in a theater, as getting out of the house may be hard, but afterward you will feel a little better. During the movie, take 6 Immodium AD's. They last for quite a while to fend off the bad physical effects of withdrawl. Actually, they peak at about 36 hours after taking them, so taking more the next night at the same time will ensure that you never need to worry about going through any traumatic physical withdrawl symptoms.

4. Rest, take a bath/hot shower or do some meditation. Even if the meditation is only closing your eyes, turning on some relaxing music and trying really hard not to think about anything at all for a while. When a thought comes into your head, immediately recognize it and try to push it away.

5. Take a short walk around the neighborhood. This is to ensure that your body will be as tired (in a healthy way) as your mind is when it is time for bed. That way you will reduce the possibility for night sweats and insomnia.

6. Try to recrute a very good friend in this process, even if they don't fully understand what is going on. Try to explain it to them and ask them to try and motivate you as well as be interested/supportive.

7. Watch tv when it comes to be late evening. Reading works too, but I have found that people tend to be in too much of a malaise to actively read. Tell yourself that this is your time to veg out and wind down for the evening. Almost like a piss poor excuse for meditation. But hey, if it works, it works.

8. About 2 hours before you want to go to sleep take a couple muscle relaxers. This will stop restless legs/arms before they begin when you are trying to fall asleep. They also help you fall asleep in general. If you have any sleeping pills, try to take the minimum amount recommended along with the 2 muscle relaxers. You don't want to over do all these pills that help you to sleep, just take the right amount to ensure a decent, half-way recouperative sleep. The sleeping pill will interact with the muscle relaxers, so the trick is to have this happen in a positive way, not for the effect of feeling like a zombified freak the next day.

9. Throughout the day, take Ibuproffens as needed, but don't over do it on these, as they can really harm the body when taken in large amounts.

***IF YOU TRY THIS ROUTINE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND FIND ITS NOT WORKING ENOUGH, but can't go to an addiction specialist for some reason, try to go to a general practitioner doctor and ask for a small amount of Tramadol. Doctors usually don't mind prescribing this medication and espcially in small amounts. Don't tell them it's for withdrawl, tell them it's for a toothache or something and you can't get a dentist appointment for a week. Be creative, I guess. Taking 3 tramadol in the evening while evenually tapering them off will take care of what the Immodium AD's would, in the case that Immodium doesn't work for your specific body chemistry for some reason. Also, Tramadols are super cheap, so if you ask the pharmacy for the generic version they should only cost around 15 bucks tops. Costco has the cheapest Tramadol, and you don't need a membership to use the pharmacy.

Hope this helps! It should.How do you sleep for 8 to 10 hours when you are withdrawaling, I can NEVER sleep during withdrawal, just cannot. Especially because the keg thing the restless legs always keeps me up, sorry but you can really sleep like that during withdrawal?!
Kerry

[kil092286]

I think his intentions were good but come on if you haven't been in the game for long than who do you think you are writing a guide to dope wds.

[Raz]

Fuck, i needed a laugh...I am gonna stop my blind dosing of methadone and follow steps in post #1..
Yeah right, that'll be when i'm fuckin released from the psycho ward...

[WarmCyanide]

thread of the walking dead. orangejuice even. wonder whats up with that robotripper?

[JonnyMohawk]

I think the post had some solid information and even if it wont work for most if it even helped one person who are we to be putting them down for posting it?

I thought alot of you were better then to bash someone who was just trying to help.
Let up off the jokes and give them a break.

Thats my stance.

[SHELLEY]

you know the ONLY thing that gets me through withdrawals
and i got a heroin habit that tends to get nasty
xanax and pot
lots and lots of xanax and lots and LOTS of pot

i take like 3 x's, go to sleep for as long as possible
when i wake up take 3 or 4 more
then smoke a big fat blunt until the pills kick in
i repeat this process for about a week
it works fucking wonders
you just need to always be on xanax
and if youre awake
always be smoking pot

sometimes, liquor drinks help lots : )

[pharmboy]

Sleep ? Breakfast ? Read ? Sorry what ever you W/D from

isn't the same thing I W/D from. :rolleyes:

[Saint]

Not once have I slept over a max of 4 hours when in withdrawals.. and even then I considered myself lucky and had swallowed at least 20 mgs of valium to get that precious few hours. I wish it were that easy (and that I didn't need to work for my money).

[Black_Pony]

Ya I know, this thread was outta control.

Not once have I slept over a max of 4 hours when in withdrawals.. and even then I considered myself lucky and had swallowed at least 20 mgs of valium to get that precious few hours. I wish it were that easy (and that I didn't need to work for my money).

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

Ya I know, this thread was outta control.

ALSO just to mention it is about 1 3/4 years old! :rolleyes:

[CIIORNOTHING]

I guess if you have to get out of bed at 6am and be at a job this plan is fucked from the get go.

(it didnt work 1.5 years ago, it still doesnt work today)

[upstate_007]

It kinda sounds like my typical Saturday with or without drugs. Wake up....watch tv...eat...shower....organize some shit...get out of the house for a bit....take some Soma...watch tv....go to bed.

[Saint]

Old thread or not, WD-s are WD-s..
I don't think people tried to bash the OP (who has probably forgotten Opiophile even exists) except me ofcourse, (you know the kind of bitch I am ;-) but you have to admit that SLEEP is *sort of a precious subject* to addicts and that it really IS quite unusual for anyone in WD-s to get decent sleep...
And I personally can't meditate in D's (or anytime for that matter). But if the OP does, it's one lucky bastard, so good for him.

Kchampagne was probably UTFS-ing for some useful withdrawaltips and brought the thread back to live again..

[starglazer33]

Yeah I thought the initial posting of this "idealistic" routine was somewhat commical, as if the person was not withdrawing from OPIATES...Luckily he updated us by saying "Yes all of what I said was possible because I was dosed to the gills on soma and tramadol". NO SHIT soma will knock you the fuck out. My girlfriend in High school used to bring me those Doctor office sample dispenser packs....20 packs of 4 soma pills each in a little infolding tray. Anyway, I remember taking 7 of these once after a long night of 'cid or sassafrass or something similar, and I had to drive my friend home 4 hours later. I took 7 soma at 6am or so...conked out...it was about 10 am and I am driving, barely conscious, and halfway through a left turn through an intersection I conk out and broadside this little mexican jalopy...so I wake up to the sound of metal scraping metal, and Im like "fucking oh shit!! I cant get the police involved, this is texas and I really can only keep one eye open right now!!" So I fucking take off down the street I was turning left on and immediate take a right turn into a neighborhood ( the same neighborhood where my friend lived, luckily ). The guy is hot on my tail in his '83 carolla and my friend is like "turn left...now right....in two intersections turn right again". Needless to say I snapped out of the total fucking stuppor I was in and got all formula 1 behind the wheel of this '98 Explorer! We finally get to his street, and I pull over as he yells "let me out here dude!", and he hops out and all of the sudden the enraged driver pulls right in front of me and gets out of his car. He is a squat, dark skinned hispanic man who looked REALLY fucking pissed and was screaming like "chinga-te puta blah blah frijoles!!"" and all that kinda shit. SO I throw it in reverse and make a U turn, then a right onto a main street and then SPEED the fuck onto the freeway. I lost him on the freeway. AND FOLKS, THIS is what you do when you get involved with what is obviously an uninsured, illegal alien in any type of auto accident. You fucking haul outta there. Especially if you are %3 consciouss because of a massive carisoprodol dose.

So yeah, I could sleep all day and night if I had some goddamn soma for my W/Ds. Luckily I have an endless supply of bupe around now, but that shit will make you damn near asleep and awake at the same time and loving every minute.

The irony is THAT is the easiest drug to get ahold of on the internet while all of us are fishing for fast acting full agonists....

Ok, I'll shut up now. Thats my TRUE saturday night entertainment story for you folks monitoring this nice thread here....:)

man i laughed and almost forgotten teh hell im in.

............sg33

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man i laughed and almost forgotten teh hell im in.

............sg33


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