What happened to poppies.org?

[Somni Divine]

Does anyone know why the website www.poppies.org (http://www.poppies.org/), or www.poppies.com (http://www.poppies.com/) has completely disappeared from the Internet in the last four or five months? There was quite a bit of interesting information that could not be obtained elsewhere that is just gone!! I am somewhat shocked and somewhat devestated by the loss ... and wondering what preceeded it. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
By the way, that is how I found this site, looking for that one, and this is my first post. Hi to all! :)

[paesan]

I was wondering the same thing. That site had a lot of good info on "arranging" poppies. I too am sad to see it go. Hopefully this isn't some DEA crack down on the dried poppy trade.

[bi11i]

poppies.com is there, although it doesn't quite look like the same site. I wonder what happened and if the matter can be resolved.

I'll look into it and get back to you....

Actually, right now it looks like that they have tried to switch registrars and were either denied or misconfigured in the process. Based on Canada so I doubt that the US got ahold of them....

[DirtMcGirk]

the site has only gone down in the past 10 hours ive been there like six times in the past 3 days, even there forums were active with dozens of new posts,

[bogumil]

From what I heard they had a problem with the server, but will open again either today or tomorrow.

[bi11i]

With the release of PHP v5.0.4 and mySQL v4.1.11, quite a few ISP's out there are doing some updating (just like we did here, in fact.)

I can tell you that their mailserver is up and running, so it's not a domain problem like I originally thought....

[Somni Divine]

Well, thank each and every one of you - and more power to you all (as soon as I've been around long enough to help you "power up", if you know what I mean) - I really appreciate you all investigating this!!! I was concerned it was something more sinister, maybe a little paranoia sunk in after reading some of the injustices that happened to a certain author ... :(

Anyway, I am relieved to know it is still there even though I haven't been able to get to it for a few days - not just a few hours, so I hope that you are right Dirt, bogumil, and bi11i (on your most recent research - and I must say I am reassured that in my reading here, thus far, it looks like you usually are) :)

Paesan, thank you for the reassurance that it's not just me!!! :-) :rolleyes:

MORE POWER TO YOU ALL - and THANK YOU AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!;)

[Somni Divine]

www.poppies.org (http://www.poppies.org/) is NOT the same website as www.poppies.com (http://www.poppies.com/). If you do a google search, (or any search engine) or much reading on Erowid, often you will be referred to articles with answers regarding poppies or papaver somniferum, to the website poppies.org. I must say at this point, I believe the webmaster, moderator (or, I'm not sure, are you both?) of THIS site was right the first time. :( :( :(

www.poppies.org (http://www.poppies.org/) was a site with a lot of great information, and regarding the fragile flower, it was even more informative than the poppy and related vaults on www.erowid.com (http://www.erowid.com/) OR www.erowid.org (http://www.erowid.org/) (which ARE the same site).

Again, I found THIS site after a long futile search for THAT site that has gone on for several days and been conducted from several different computers, search engines, and connections, all with the same results - an error page.

It is a sad loss, and I truly hope it isn't due to anything other than domain issues (which I hope can be resolved), because it certainly was nowhere near as strict as this website when it came to legalities, and I'm just hoping that isn't what the problem is/was. (I hope the folks at www.poppyseedtea.com (http://www.poppyseedtea.com/) didn't get to them somehow, for example -- I believe they have a lot of misplaced anger, which is, of course, understandable to a degree, due to their circumstances.)

I must commend the person who came up with the rules for this site. I fear the captain and ship are currently missing in the case of poppies.org, and I noticed that a wise captain guides this ship ... and I am a grateful member of the crew! If anyone DOES figure out what happened officially to the www.poppies.org (http://www.poppies.org/) site, please let me know, the curiousity is really starting to drive me crazy!

Thank you all for all of the research and efforts you guys have put into this topic so far. I hope the site isn't gone for good, it was one of the finest on the flower, and I think if it IS gone, this is the site that will end up taking it's place. If lots of people start joining I bet it will be those that were looking for the other site, though I will admit this was a bit hard to find it was well worth it. There are things that were other site that are forbidden here though, and I wonder if that is what was it's demise. I hope not!! If anyone knows, or finds out, PLEASE fill me in! THANKS!!

[bi11i]

(I hope the folks at www.poppyseedtea.com didn't get to them somehow, for example -- I believe they have a lot of misplaced anger, which is, of course, understandable to a degree, due to their circumstances.)
Actually, these folks contacted me and were quite pleasant. In fact, when I denied them their request to have a big warning put on my other recipe page, they were civil about it. Do you have some other knowlegde of them behaving differently?I must commend the person who came up with the rules for this site. I fear the captain and ship are currently missing in the case of poppies.org, and I noticed that a wise captain guides this ship ... and I am a grateful member of the crew! If anyone DOES figure out what happened officially to the www.poppies.org site, please let me know, the curiousity is really starting to drive me crazy! Again, my mailings are getting through to the domain. The mail IP and the site IP are the same. This means that there's trouble of some kind, and it doesn't appear to be accidental. I've yet to hear a response to any of my mails, I wonder what Erowid has to say about such things?

The rules. Yes, the rules here are strict, but then again, are they really? Conspiracy is not a difficult charge to stick these days and even someone like ourselves, who originally had a "bring it on" mentality, eventually gave in to the idea that doing something illegal probably wasn't a good idea. In the end, it's ONLY the captain that goes down with his ship, and we just can't take that chance (as much as we love you guys.)

Sites have gone down in recent months due to a PHP worm that was making the rounds. Luckily, this worm didn't have too much of an effect on vBulletin software, which is what we use, and some of us came out of that mess unscathed. The hive ran on phpBB, and so did Heroin Helper. Notice any others that went down at those times?

Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions on changing the rules, by all means let us know. We're pretty good about taking care of that kind of thing, or at least addressing it quickly.....

[scagdawg]

I have heard that their ISP went out of business. This happened very suddenly,no warning, and they will be back up with a new ISP soon.

[Dwale T. Brewer]

Does anyone know of any other websites where poppy arrangements similar to those that were on www.poppies.org (http://www.poppies.org/) are available. NOT www.Erowid.com (http://www.erowid.com/) - it only touches lightly on the topic (flower "arrangements" - a phrase so appropriately coined by PAESAN) that was covered in depth on www.poppies.org (http://www.poppies.org/) (as comprehensively as the variety of seed "arrangements" are addressed here.) I'm looking for more comprehensive, specific, and well enough researched to be correct information on gardening, and on teas, and things that this is not quite the correct venue for -- it ALMOST is, but not quite. I am sorry I am having so much trouble phrasing this, I am just trying to get the hang of posting here, and abide by the rules and guideliness which I respect also, Somni, (thanks to whom I am a "newbie")
Thank you very sincerely,

[Somni Divine]

Actually, these folks contacted me and were quite pleasant. In fact, when I denied them their request to have a big warning put on my other recipe page, they were civil about it. Do you have some other knowlegde of them behaving differently?Again, my mailings are getting through to the domain. The mail IP and the site IP are the same. This means that there's trouble of some kind, and it doesn't appear to be accidental. I've yet to hear a response to any of my mails, I wonder what Erowid has to say about such things?

The rules. Yes, the rules here are strict, but then again, are they really? Conspiracy is not a difficult charge to stick these days and even someone like ourselves, who originally had a "bring it on" mentality, eventually gave in to the idea that doing something illegal probably wasn't a good idea. In the end, it's ONLY the captain that goes down with his ship, and we just can't take that chance (as much as we love you guys.)

Sites have gone down in recent months due to a PHP worm that was making the rounds. Luckily, this worm didn't have too much of an effect on vBulletin software, which is what we use, and some of us came out of that mess unscathed. The hive ran on phpBB, and so did Heroin Helper. Notice any others that went down at those times?

Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions on changing the rules, by all means let us know. We're pretty good about taking care of that kind of thing, or at least addressing it quickly.....

Earlier I typed kind of a long reply, but it timed out, and due to my lack of patience, and lucky for you, I'll try to be a little more brief.

First of all, NO, I really did NOT intend to imply at all that the poppyseedtea people were anything OTHER than civil, I just based my opinion on things I had read here, on their website, and elsewhere. I do not think poppyseed tea was all to blame, and I am glad you turned down their proposal and ESPECIALLY glad they were civil about it. The fact that they asked means that there is some misplaced blame and perhaps anger (IMHO) but that certainly doesn't mean they are not civil, decent, and kind people, in fact, the way they treated their son shows me that they are. And the way they treated you just reinforces that. So, no, don't worry, they seem OK. Looking back I see how it looks like I implied they might not be -- but for all I knew about them at the time, they might not have been, but I feel better about them now, I hope you do too. I am sorry for implying otherwise based ONLY on what I read, not on personal experience at all.

The rules here make me feel safe, and as a result I may "open up" a bit more in here soon, I think I have a lot I could share, and have read some mistaken notions that I believe I could help clear up about some things, once I feel a little more safe. I am all for the rules. Besides, there is a forum for S.W.I.M. as a believe you called it, that kind of gives a little more room to discuss things ... anyway I LIKE IT. I really LIKE this forum a lot, and I liked poppies.org a lot too, so I hope it comes back soon - if anyone notices that it is back, please let me be amongst the first to know!

In the meantime, thanks for administering such an awesome and safe forum, and sailing a ship that feels safe (for believe it or not, I HAVE seen those where the captain gets in a well pre-designed lifeboat and sails away, leaving the crew on their own, and most of them drown, and the captain sails off to make another site and smiles all the way, so believe me, I appreciate your concern for yourself AND the forum members). Thanks for being open to discussions of the rules as well.

I better post this before I screw it up by timing out, like I did last time.

Thanks for providing such a cool forum - and I can't wait until the link to poppies.org is up and running again - they did have some "beautiful arrangements" as p. noted earlier, and most of them cannot be found elsewhere on the net. Restrictions (rules) here prevent them being posted, but there is a place for everything, and that's just one place I hope returns in full soon.

Thanks again! Sorry to concern you about the poppyseedtea folks, again, I am SURE they are fine. Take care, and cheers! :p

[Somni Divine]

Sorry, the first time I couldn't post at all, and the second time I posted the same thing twice. I am suffering from impostenence. I apologize.
I guess I just have to get used to how things work around here.

[bi11i]

So, no, don't worry, they seem OK. Looking back I see how it looks like I implied they might not be -- but for all I knew about them at the time, they might not have been, but I feel better about them now, I hope you do too. I am sorry for implying otherwise based ONLY on what I read, not on personal experience at all. Oh, no problem. I've heard and had mixed feelings about their demeanor (although not their intentions) and was only curious what someone else's point of view might be.The rules here make me feel safe, and as a result I may "open up" a bit more in here soon, I think I have a lot I could share, and have read some mistaken notions that I believe I could help clear up about some things, once I feel a little more safe. I am all for the rules. Besides, there is a forum for S.W.I.M. as a believe you called it, that kind of gives a little more room to discuss things ... anyway I LIKE IT. I really LIKE this forum a lot, and I liked poppies.org a lot too, so I hope it comes back soon - if anyone notices that it is back, please let me be amongst the first to know! excellent! Actually, the SWIM forum (which has never, ever been posted in - interesting what bring us all together, isn't it?) is for those who sign up seeking info for a friend or family member (in case of addiction, etc.) I thought I might get rid of this forum and lump all of this in with Q&A, since they're both similar forums. SWIM is just a general use policy here and probably a good idea for your sake and ours.I better post this before I screw it up by timing out, like I did last time. sorry to hear of your posting troubles. one of my biggest complaints in this forum software is that if you accidentally click 'back', you lose your entire post! This is why I type a bit, and then click 'preview post' which kind of saves my work. We're trying to get this bug ironed out, thanks for your patience. Are you unable to edit your posts?

[bogumil]

Ladies and Gentlemen: The P.org is up again!

[Somni Divine]

Ladies and Gentlemen: The P.org is up again!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
THANKS BOGUMILL!!!!!!! Thank you for keeping on top of it! I am both thrilled and relieved. Especially after reading the www.coldwaterworld.com (http://www.coldwaterworld.com/) site's reason for coming close to shutting down. I was truly afraid something similar might be going on. And I only read THAT TODAY is what is really weird. I was afraid www.poppies.org (http://www.poppies.org/) would soon sy they shut down for the same reasons the owner of coldwater world was thinkin about it.
Anyway, it is great to see the poppies poppin back, thank you for keeping on top of it. and most of all for "keeping me posted" :)
By the way, Bii I just might post in SWIM someday,so I think it's a good thing, even though no one has posted there yet. Also, thanks for all of your input and advise!
A good thing happened in my quest for poppies.org - I found this place, and then this place helped me find out when my beloved poppy site came back.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH