Pain relief from non-opiate pain killers.

[RobOC]

I was just wondering if as opiate users does anyone experience any relief from non-opiate pain killers such as ibuprofin, tylenol, aleve, or various other NSAIDS (over the counter or prescription)?
I find that around 1000 mg of ibuprofin can help me a little, not much though, when myback pain is really bad.

[clinton]

aleve works for headaches but when it comes to body aches or severe pain i need something at least as strong as perduratas.....of course theres always heat and massage, that does me better than any advil could

[HeidiW]

Flexeril, at least 300mg. always helps me when I'm having really bad muscle spasms.

[LayinLow]

I was just wondering if as opiate users does anyone experience any relief from non-opiate pain killers such as ibuprofin, tylenol, aleve, or various other NSAIDS (over the counter or prescription)?
I find that around 1000 mg of ibuprofin can help me a little, not much though, when myback pain is really bad.


Excedrin migraine works pretty well for me. Its like 250mg tylenol 250mg aspirin and 65mg caffeine. Take about 3 and it usually relieves my headache pretty well. I like Advil as well for other body aches. I know were talking about non-prescription but usually when I'm around my dad and I get a headache or other body ache, he just gives me 1 tylenol 3 which works good on pain, does nothing "for me" though. :cool:
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[Coddfish]

Ibuprofen usually kicks my headaches' asses. And they are pretty bad migraines

[chemboy7]

If your talking about taking care of headaches/migranes than Midrin is an awsome pill; good for minor pain, relaxation, and catching a little buzz too. They contain Acetaminophen and Isometheptene Mucate. Isometheptene Mucate is a vasoconstrictor/sedative that gets rid of throbbing headaches and has a nice feel-good quality to it. I don't believe this medication is schedualed either, but if it is it's probably only schedual V... none the less Midrin is a cool little pill.

[renton]

I find that advil and valium is a great combo. Valium really helps my neck to relax.

[HeidiW]

Soma's are good for aches and pains, I think they're a C IV (schedule 4) drug, not sure though.

[doctor diesel]

Well, if you've got a severe migraine, there's nothing like a triptan pill to get rid of the bastard.
But any sort of ache or pain or grip or anything man... I just reach for the nearest opiate, whatever the hell it is.

Doc D

[dorje]

No relief in OTC stuff. No opiate, no hope.

[vaxn8]

I had a really bad toothache I think it was about a month ago. I am already scripted quite a bit, but was in really bad pain even with what I was taking. I cannot have asprin at all and am supposed to avoid NSAIDs because my blood doesn't clot. For about 2 weeks, I was taking 1000-1200 mg ibuprofen and it worked for my tooth. I was absolutely shocked. I couldn't shoot enough of anything to take the edge off, but ibuprofen worked great.

[nick]

Does anyone know anything about chronic pain management for methadone users?Especially relaxation techniques.Will be grateful for Any information.

[InneedinFla.]

I was just recently cut off from my vicodin 2 days ago, have been on it for 8 years for chronic pain. The doc said they are addicting and he prescribed me peroxicam. He said the side effects of vicodin are bad. So he gives me this other stuff which really pissed me of considering there are SERIOUS side effects of this other med, about 40 serious side effects like heart attack,stroke internal bleeding without warning, and death! Which is worse? addiction, or bleeding internally? duh! There is nothing that I have tried that works for me like opiates. I am in alot of pain all the time due to my condition. I can't find help anywhere here in Fla! why is it so hard to get here?

[Levity]

Flexeril, at least 300mg. always helps me when I'm having really bad muscle spasms.

Holy fucking a donkey Christ!! 300mg???

I take 10mg then sleep for 18 hours. Shitty drug that Flexeril.


As a side note, Celebrex helps my arthritis pain/stiffness.

[repeek]

My wife can't live without her Celebrex, but it doesn't do much for me.

[blackdog]

No relief in OTC stuff. No opiate, no hope.no dope no hope?...nope?

[blackdog]

Does anyone know anything about chronic pain management for methadone users?Especially relaxation techniques.Will be grateful for Any information.

yo Nicky boy,buddy ol pal........seriously at one of my earlier in-patient detoxes/rehabs courtesy free-care from the lovely commonwealth of Massachusetts. i did 3 visits a week to this acupuncture clinic involved with the hospital and so i did it at first just to play along and show them that i was serious about my get well and all.but then i left the hospital and they offered the acupuncture to me aftercare. and at first i wasn't gonna go at all but i skipped the one and i actually missed it and so i continued it for as long as i was up in Cambridge/Boston and i recommend it highly ...get it i said (highly) ha anyway it's a trip and if you allow yourself to accept the possibility of it to have an effect on you positive i hope ..then maybe it will.edit: oh yeah it seems to relax you big time the alcoholic's seem to like it big time.it's supposed to take the urge away?
peace Steve

[Narkotikon]

Holy fucking a donkey Christ!! 300mg???

I take 10mg then sleep for 18 hours. Shitty drug that Flexeril.


As a side note, Celebrex helps my arthritis pain/stiffness.


I think maybe she's talking about the ER Flexeril. I know that they make 100mg ER.

As far as Nsaid's go, they only one that I like is Ibuprofen. It usually gets rid of headaches for me, but not muscle aches. Nothing gets rid of the muscle aches of w/d. APAP just doesn't do it for me, plus I think it's a little more toxic than Ibuprofen isn't it? I'm not sure. Aspirin. You know, I never even took an aspirin until I was 19, because my mom was always worried about Rye's Syndrome. I don't really know what that is, other than it's connected to aspirin in children. I've never tried naproxen sodium.

[Dilaudid]

Hello Vaxn8,

I had a really bad toothache I think it was about a month ago. I am already scripted quite a bit, but was in really bad pain even with what I was taking. I cannot have asprin at all and am supposed to avoid NSAIDs because my blood doesn't clot. For about 2 weeks, I was taking 1000-1200 mg ibuprofen and it worked for my tooth. I was absolutely shocked. I couldn't shoot enough of anything to take the edge off, but ibuprofen worked great.

Sorry for the off topic.
If your blood doesn't clot stay away from ibuprofen it lower your thrombocyte count. (it act on prostaglandyns).

[flipside]

I'm sure V will appreciate the concern, she knows all about NSAID's and how they affect blood count. I think she was just trying to demonstrate that in this 1 emergent instance she resorted to an NSAID and was pleasantly surprised it worked. I can assure you it is not something she does often Good looking out though.

CB: Thanks for the remind about Midrin, I had totally forgotten all about it, on my way to the drugstore. Forgot how bad the headaches get when in benzo WD's

[vaxn8]

^Yes, i don't really have any other options at this point.

[Levity]

I think maybe she's talking about the ER Flexeril. I know that they make 100mg ER.

As far as Nsaid's go, they only one that I like is Ibuprofen. It usually gets rid of headaches for me, but not muscle aches. Nothing gets rid of the muscle aches of w/d. APAP just doesn't do it for me, plus I think it's a little more toxic than Ibuprofen isn't it? I'm not sure. Aspirin. You know, I never even took an aspirin until I was 19, because my mom was always worried about Rye's Syndrome. I don't really know what that is, other than it's connected to aspirin in children. I've never tried naproxen sodium.

ER Flexeril? Really? I get hellacious muscle cramps and the Skelaxin (Metaxalone) but it doesn't do shit. I've been wanting to try Soma (Carisoprodol) but recent local media coverage has linked the word Soma with "Cystal Meth," as Meth dealers are getting busted with Soma, so no doctors are biting.

[vaxn8]

I also meant to say this and forgot. The reason most people don't get relief from OTC naprosyn (Naproxen, Alleve and other generics) is because the OTC dose is way below the dose it is used when rx'd. On the OTC product, they tell you to not go above 200mg twice a day. When used as an rx, the dosing is 275, 375 or 500 mg twice a day. That's why lots of people think it's useless, it's just not very effective below the rx dose.

With that said, I wouldn't recommend going above the OTC recommendations if you have any type of GI problems, it can be very irritating to the GI tract at higher doses.

[nick]

yo Nicky boy,buddy ol pal........seriously at one of my earlier in-patient detoxes/rehabs courtesy free-care from the lovely commonwealth of Massachusetts. i did 3 visits a week to this acupuncture clinic involved with the hospital and so i did it at first just to play along and show them that i was serious about my get well and all.but then i left the hospital and they offered the acupuncture to me aftercare. and at first i wasn't gonna go at all but i skipped the one and i actually missed it and so i continued it for as long as i was up in Cambridge/Boston and i recommend it highly ...get it i said (highly) ha anyway it's a trip and if you allow yourself to accept the possibility of it to have an effect on you positive i hope ..then maybe it will.edit: oh yeah it seems to relax you big time the alcoholic's seem to like it big time.it's supposed to take the urge away?
peace Steve
Thanks bro,I'm going to try shiatsu massage,it can't hurt, can it?
I did have one experience with acupuncture years ago,went to the acupuncturist about my habit.The dude is a small balding schmuck and I can tell evil fiend me is making him nervous.So nervous,he forgot to remove all the needles.I'm sat in a taxi on my way home and I run a hand through my hair.What do I find?One large acupuncture needle stuck in the middle of my head.Freaked me right out!!Never went back,but I figure it was a personal thing between the schmuck and me.So I'm going to ask some other addicts in Leeds to turn me on to a laidback acupuncturist.Make sure your acupuncturist is a cool guy,that's my advice.
Peace Nick.
P.S. love the avatar,I showed it to my partner and she said you and I were both fucked up-no sense of humour.

[Narkotikon]

ER Flexeril? Really? I get hellacious muscle cramps and the Skelaxin (Metaxalone) but it doesn't do shit. I've been wanting to try Soma (Carisoprodol) but recent local media coverage has linked the word Soma with "Cystal Meth," as Meth dealers are getting busted with Soma, so no doctors are biting.

Yeah, my brother-in-law has a big bottle of the 100mg ER in my sister's medicine cabinet. I think he got it from his dad, who's a doctor. Anyway, I took one once about a year ago and chewed it up. It just gave me a non-euphoric body high. Right now I'm taking the 10mg pills from the clinic doctor. I'm only supposed to take one or two at bedtime, but that hasn't really helped. So, last night I took 4 and slept from 12:00 to 4:30, then got up, smoked, took two more and some more clonidine, and slept again from 5:30-10:15.

Why do meth dealers have Soma? I can't imagine taking both at the same time. I just can't see how they potentiate each other.

[Alice Mudgarden]

Ibuprofen and Aleve are great. They need to put aleve and hydrocodone together in one pill, just like we have Vicoprofen.

[Flagg]

Fioricet (bubalbital APAP and caffeine) works fine for me, but if you're overcoming benzo headaches you might risk replacing one thing with another.

Midrin was a great suggestion. Also try Imitrex, although that's more for migraines.

[OxyContinuously]

ibuprofen or ketoprofen is okay, someone else mentioned carisoprodol (soma) and that is okay for rounding out the muscle cramps to some extent...better than nothing

[Paregoric Kid]

800mg ibuprofen
naproxen
aspirin
they provide little relief but if you can't take it and the opiates aren't cutting it or you don't have any those are worth a shot.
alcohol and dxm can provide relief but with side effects you may not want. dxm and guaifenesin are especially helpful for some people with neuropathic pain.
cannabis is good too.

[reddragon3668]

In very high quanities, Ibuprophen helps me allot. About 3200mg of it and my back feels allot better.... of course, I forget about my back when I start throwing up and doubling over feeling like someone is stabbing me in the stomach.... I really do wish I could take it all the time, but it just hurt my tummy too bad.

[ahazard]

I had a craniotomy 9 days ago to remove part of a type II neoplasm from my right Temporal lobe. They gave me percocet, both in the hospital between morphene, and to take home with me. They also threw in a little vicodin at the hospital. I told them there that percocet never did anything for me at all. This time I was wrong. This time it made me deathly ill every time I got within 20 feet of food, meds, or even water. The pain trucked on like it was no bother, but I couldn't hold down anything at all. Nothing brings the puke in quantity like percocet. But I fixed the problem.
I discovered something that shocked the hell out of me. Motrin works better on pain, and I get to keep all of my meds and even the occassional glass of water, or even food, down. Bonus, for what one bottle of percocet costs, I can buy a year supply of motrin.
I know, you don't think that Motrin could possibly work better. I would have doubted it too, but it's true. Less Motrin is leaving me with less pain than percocet.
How do I make it without that narcotic fix? Well, that fix is really not needed, it doesn't contribute to either my immediate health nor my recovery. But if I feel the need, I smoke a little reefer, which, for this type of pain, works best of all.