STUPID QUESTION: IS LOPERAMIDE AVAILABLE OTC AT A DRUGSTORE, OR SCRIPT ONLY

[dougrounds]

IS LOPERAMIDE SOMETHING I COULD EASILY ATTAIN AT THE DRUGSTORE, OR DO I NEED A PERSCRIPTION?

AND ALSO, DO YOU FIND THAT IT HELPS WITH W/D?

SORRY FOR THE STUPID QUESTION...

[Flowergirl]

No prescription needed. A wholesale club will be far, far cheaper.

[skeezerjohns22]

*i'm not gonna be a dick, i'm not gonna be a dick, i'm not gonna be a dick*

answer to your questions: yes and yes

[Mustelid]

It is available OTC in the USA, the brand name version being Immodium AD.

It helps a great deal with the screaming squirts of wds. Larger doses help with other symptoms as well.

Good luck!

[harmonik]

Watch out for extra active ingredients.

Anything besides Loperamide HCl might make your stomach uneasy.

[JonnyM]

It can hellp allevaite almost all of my withdrawal symptoms at a higher dose. See how you feel with it.

[dougrounds]

It is available OTC in the USA, the brand name version being Immodium AD.

It helps a great deal with the screaming squirts of wds. Larger doses help with other symptoms as well.

Good luck!

THANNKS MUSTELID AND HARMONIK: thats the answer i was looking for... i had done some research, and saw brand name IMMODIUM... but wasnt entirely sure...

and skeezer: thanks for not being a dick. because apparently that was pretty difficult for you.

[clinton]

Were are you from dougrounds?
Are you going to use it for withdrawals or try to get recreational with it?

[Seedy]

THANNKS MUSTELID AND HARMONIK: thats the answer i was looking for... i had done some research, and saw brand name IMMODIUM... but wasnt entirely sure...

and skeezer: thanks for not being a dick. because apparently that was pretty difficult for you.

i was gonna pay you out, not for your ignorance about loperamide (UTMFSE goddam it :), but for your insisting on YELLING AT EVERYONE.
but it appears you've stopped so i'll give you a break.

[methadoniac1972]

i was gonna ask this too maybe i did in another post i didn't know immodium ad was it i dont know how or why it works if its not an opiate anyone know (i will try to now utmfse i promise) just wondering if it fills the opi receptors and all or is it a trick like using stims for w/d's cause i know that works..fer sure

[doctor diesel]

Man this is way old territory. Loperamide (Immodium) is indeed an opioid, but the reason they let us fiends claw at it is that it's engineered to not cross the blood-brain barrier and tickle up the central nervous system, so fiends are allowed to play all they want, Big Brother content in the knowledge that fiends won't get their jollies out of it.
Immodium is massively expensive so if you're after controlling WDs you need to avail yourself of a big pot of generic loperamide pills or powder, and you need to take 40mg straight off, then another 40mg the best part of a day away, then another 40mg half a day or so later.... at which point you should start to feel just dandy.

Best of luck.




Doc

[Indy]

A good friend showed me that you can get 400 of them off amazon for about 6 bucks plus S&H. That's enough to keep the jones away pretty well for about 10 days.

When you first take it, it will take away like 50% of the withdrawal symptoms, then you'll feel better the longer you take it IF you take it every 24 hours, as it builds in your system. I don't know why it's like this, but even huge doses don't work as well as a large dose built up over a few days, at least for me.

It's hard to express my tolerance since I've only been using seeds for a while, but even if you have a pretty decent habit 40 pills (80 mg) a day for the first few days then down to like 20 pills a day should keep you OK.

there's a darker side to it too but it's a lifesaver for withdrawal.

[JonnyM]

Agreed with Indy.

Loperamide is more complicated then it would first seem. I think it probably does react with the opiod receptors but just crosses the blood brain brain barrier in very small quantity, which would explain for the large dose.

I buy my loperamide from amazon, 800 2mg pills for $14... really not bad.

[jill]

I think the wholesale clubs like BJ's, Sam's and Costco have pretty good deals too.

You can get about 400 tablets for $5.50 ish.

[More Feen]

I think back in the 70's it was Schedule IV or V, but it was changed after They learned "it cannot cross to the brain."

Under estimate the masses if you want (like, "abuse-proof" pillies).

M F

[clinton]

yes folks its a lifesaver in a pinch- hits all the receptors without the high, can't get past the blood brain barrier- does anyone know why it was never considered for maintenance?
If you could get it to pass you'd get a Demerol strength high- ( as mentioned earlier)
Some people claim to get high off of it , I haven't but haven't taken large enough doses..
There are chemical ways to get it past the blood brain barrier but they are all potentially life threatening

Edit-
Spoke to soon- people have used prilosec and black pepper ( not together) to help facilitate loperamide and it's crossing into the brain

[dougrounds]

Were are you from dougrounds?
Are you going to use it for withdrawals or try to get recreational with it?

i asked because i was interested in using it to curb w/d symptoms..

[JonnyM]

Clinton without a doubt at high doses it must be passing. I can feel a strong opiate high, the heavy bodied euphoria. I know we have receptors in the stomach that it hits without CNS activity, but Im sure its doing something in the brain.

I know its all anecdotal at the moment but if you search 'loperamide' here you will find similar reports to mine.

[upstate_007]

^^ Same here Jonny

At very high doses I feel some opiate effects. Body high, pinned pupils, feeling of well being, etc. Nothing major, but it's there.

[Marlboro Man]

yes folks its a lifesaver in a pinch- hits all the receptors without the high, can't get past the blood brain barrier- does anyone know why it was never considered for maintenance?
If you could get it to pass you'd get a Demerol strength high- ( as mentioned earlier)
Some people claim to get high off of it , I haven't but haven't taken large enough doses..
There are chemical ways to get it past the blood brain barrier but they are all potentially life threatening

Edit-
Spoke to soon- people have used prilosec and black pepper ( not together) to help facilitate loperamide and it's crossing into the brain

TO THE BEST OF MY UNDERSTANDING (this is a disclaimer that I might be full of shit) Lope when taken in higher doses has the ability to pass the blood/brain barrier. I think it is in doses of around 150mgs. A spoonful of mineral oil laxative wouldn't hurt. Pun intended.

[chemhead2222]

I have been off heroin for a year after 5 years of shooting up 4 times a day. What saved me wasn't suboxone, and it wasn't methadone, or alternative treatments. What saved me was loperamide.
When I first heard about it I did some research and found out that it doesn't cross the BBB in significant amounts. So I was discouraged. One time I was in witdrawal from fent and oxys when there was a river of them flowing thru my area and I decided at worst it just wouldn't do anything. I then ate about 40pills which is 80 mgs. This alleviated my symptoms a little but not really. So I took 150 the next day. Within 3 hours of dosing I was pinned out, laughing with euphoria, and itching even worse than I remembered on dope.



Basically, what I'm trying to say is that BBB or not, if you eat a lot of these, you are going to feel better. I promise.

[chopstix]

Just to throw it out this stuff will build a jones, I'm at 5mg/day and I puke a lot.. Haven't had any other agonists for weeks..

[chemhead2222]

This drug is a fuckin miracle for day to day maintenance. Its got a pretty long half life and you won't need to take the same dose everyday. Codeine takes about 100 milligrams for me to get a good high. Loperamide takes the same amount for me even though 200 is my optimum dose. The ONLY difference as far as I'm concerned is that the dosage is very small per pill. If it came in a 200 milligram tablet, there would be no difference at all. Think about it...I've been getting my jollies from the fucking dollar store.