Charlie Sheen Fiasco..

[paups]

What do you guys think about the recent turn of events regarding Charlie Sheen?

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Ive been following the news stories on him and digging a little deeper and at first I was fine with him.. he seems to keep up with his job performance and has no "morality clause" in is contract with CBS so I feel he should be able to do as he pleases as long as he keeps up with his responsibilities..

In the last 24hrs tho he has given some pretty crazy interviews..

45min TMZ LIVE video here (http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=f7f7ad32-332e-4ce1-9930-bd1c8636db89) (image above from that interview..)
Today show link here (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/56676898.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

In these interviews Charlie makes some pretty grandiose comments like:

"YES Im on a DRUG..!! Its called CHARLIE SHEEN!!"

and says he has cured himself of addiction by
"closing his eyes and making it so with the POWER OF MY MIND"

He goes on to explain that AA is for losers and weaklings.. etc.. "Not everyone is STRONG like me.. not everyone has TIGERBLOOD in their veins!!!"

He then trashes everyone he works for including firing his publicist live on USTREAM.. and keeps repeating that he is "WINNING" and is the ultimate "WARLOCK!!"


All of this comes after basically a 6mos bender where he has been hospitalized several times and his lovers (mostly porn stars and escorts) have come forward to sell their stories about 3 day crack/porn fueled benders where he destroyed hotel rooms, ordered "suitcases of cocaine", attempted to buy a $10mil house to create a "porn star" family (his manager stepped in and stopped the sale) and paid one of the girls in particular with a $30,000 note after 3min of limp coke dick sex.. (which she promptly drove off to the bank with lol.. who wouldnt?)

I have no judgement on Charlie's behavior for the most part unless he continues to beat the women he is with (he has been convicted twice of domestic violence..including shooting his exgf in the arm and holding a knife to his most recent wife's throat..)

but the sex and drugs..
as long as his FIVE children are not around.. and he isnt directly harming anyone but himself.. who is it to judge?

Overall I am just worried that we are watching someone spiral in such an extreme way and it is pretty sad...

Today his TV show (Two and a Half Men) was cancelled for the rest of the season and he is PISSED.. explaining to some extent these inane tabloid interview..

Just wondering what you guys think..

I think dude is definitely displaying signs of cocaine psychosis/god complex etc..
I agree with some of his points but I do think he needs help asap..

Celebs.. they are JUST LIKE US, no? lmao..:tongue:

[LayinLow]

That interview when he's saying he's on "Charlie Sheen Drug" was odd, to say the least. He just seemed really pissed at Two&1/2 men producers etc. and was getting his rage out the only way he knows.
Today's interview with TMZ, OTOH, he seemed calm and collected. Yeah, he was still rambling and talking crap, but remember, he is a comedian, and today, I could tell a lot of the interview was him just trying to be funny.
I dunno, I think he could stay sober, but he doesn't want to.
More Sheen drama is to come, I know that :)

[Chuckles]

whatever,
If i was making a half million an episode for what basically amounts to a non-acting job I would probably be laughing at the rest of the world too.

I would be unable to comprehend how idiotic people could continue to support my ridiculous lifestyle.
And then I would laugh in their faces about it.


Yup, charlie sheen is just about right.

[paups]

lol he makes TWO million an episode..and yes, he is just playing a PG13 version of himself so.. :D :D

He also said he will only come back if they pay him THREE mil/ep and apologize while "licking his feet" LMAO..
Normally I can't hate the player who's winning the game..
BUT I do think he is on a faster track to self destruction than necessary... it just seems sad to me in some way..

Although the voyeuristic aspect he/the media is providing is def. sucking me in.. (Im not sure that is completely intentional on his part or he is just nuts atm but either way..)

[hero 1]

we watched that same stuff this am
me thinks he said fuck being sober
I can do what I wanna do and
relapse is aa bullshite
I dont know though the misses
thinks he is a tampon
he has a good point
but the rest of him is cotton

[Pantopon Pete]

I read a hilarious quote by him the other day saying, basically, that AA is a cult with a 5% success rate, whereas he has a 100% success rate at beating addiction. Too funny.

Not that I disagree with the AA bit.

[Chuckles]

we watched that same stuff this am
me thinks he said fuck being sober
I can do what I wanna do and
relapse is aa bullshite
I dont know though the misses
thinks he is a tampon
he has a good point
but the rest of him is cotton

goddamn, why is everybody going all GnD all of a sudden?
I know I am,
but I'm really not trying to call you out specifically Hero.
I love who you are and I love what you do.


TWO MILLION AN EPISODE.
How many episodes a season?



Do you understand how many times I would have died by now if I were Martin Sheen's son? (who isn't Emilio Estevez - because no matter how many mighty ducks films you are in that shit just wouldn't work if look like Michael J Fox minus the parkinsons)

[paups]

goddamn, why is everybody going all GnD all of a sudden?

TWO MILLION AN EPISODE.
How many episodes a season?



Do you understand how many times I would have died by now if I were Martin Sheen's son? (who isn't Emilio Estevez - because no matter how many mighty ducks films you are in that shit just wouldn't work if look like Michael J Fox minus the parkinsons)

Erm cus GnD is full of non AA speak TIGER(kitty)blood..who is prenaturally higher than most(in a hot air balloon)
OF COURSE..
:P

I was amused by the reaction that Sheen was being anti-semitic by calling out the T&HM create Chuck Lorre by his REAL name (CHAIM LEVINE)
Sheen himself said like most ppl in hollywood "ethnic" names are changed.. Charlies birth name is CARLOS ESTEVES.. so its a natural comparison..

Fuck the media.. its just in this case I feel like we are watching someone who is truly reaching a bottom..I just hope he makes it out OK.. whether it be a month in the mountains contemplating his choices, his children and his "tiger blood" or any other form of recovery..

Its just a shame to see so many people with talent, financial resources and intelligence destroy themselves to an IRREPARABLE point..
(ie most of us will never have the money or resources he has..he doesnt need to apply to the AA creed of sobriety but he could do ANYTHING he wants.. at 45 I woudl think he would have grown a little tired of the binging and excess on his own.. thats where I worry he is much worse off than he appears.._

If I had the resouces I would buy an apt in NYC and also a quaint beachside home in a tropical locale and a sailboat and would spend my life seeking out the rest of the world with my beautiful S/O.. when I got bored with that I would go back to school and get my PHD in anthropolgy and ancient tool artifacts..
AND YEAH, PROB FLY BACK TO NYC at times to taste some fire dope when the mood really strikes..
but thats just me.//

[Chuckles]

I'm pretty sure the regret from a decent binge only happens once you are forced to stop for whatever reason.
Obviously this is not an issue for Charlie Sheen.
Maybe I'm just immature, but I have no disrespect for the man.
Only jealousy.

[candyman20]

i guess the ultimate way to attack a stars character is to make them out to be an anti semite that seems to happen alot

[paups]

I'm pretty sure the regret from a decent binge only happens once you are forced to stop for whatever reason.
Obviously this is not an issue for Charlie Sheen.
Maybe I'm just immature, but I have no disrespect for the man.
Only jealousy.


I agree with you for the most part and I dont disrespect him (besides the documented violence against women..)
but I do feel worried for the guy..

I would hate to see him die before his time.. and atm it seems like he is full fledged on that downward spiral.. (3x this year his car has been found driven off a cliff in the hills of LA.. each time his people have spinned it as theft or "accidents")

There is a difference between eccentric artist who chooses to live as he pleases within his means..and someone in trouble..


Clearly the dude is suffering in numerous ways.. if he was a regular person with a regular job and family his life would have fallen to pieces long ago.

[Chuckles]

yeah I wouldn't necessarily call him an eccentric artist
In fact I wouldnt call him that at all
I've noticed that most "eccentric artists" are in fact trust fund kids.
And while good ol' charlie may indeed be a trust fund kid
I dont think he's in it for the art of it.

At the same time, I don't think I could ever judge a man who is doing exactly what I would do (or better) if circumstances allowed.
If I was making $2million per episode, how long do you think it would be until my show is canceled?
Probably after I made that first $2million check
+endorsements... remember, he's still playing Michael Jordan's bitch for Haynes - and countless other rackets he's got worked out.
If I was making two mil and episode do you think I would not have half of that money make money?
and this is all assuming you understand I'm half retarded (on my mother's side)

[ausativa]

Do you understand how many times I would have died by now if I were Martin Sheen's son? (who isn't Emilio Estevez - because no matter how many mighty ducks films you are in that shit just wouldn't work if look like Michael J Fox minus the parkinsons)

i was like EMILIIIIIOOOOOOOOO

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[TeaspoonEvery4Hours]

I think he pretty much sums up the Hollywood lifestyle. You can normally equate the degree of "asshole" directly to "quantity of money made" which puts him in the lead in both categories. Of course there are a few exceptions like Robert Redford, but mostly its about kissing ass until you no longer have to and then expecting everyone else to kiss yours. I guess living in L.A. for two long and having worked at the studios for waaay to long has jaded my vision somewhat.

[candyman20]

i was like EMILIIIIIOOOOOOOOO

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that made my fuckin day

[Chuckles]

yeah, but robert redford is also garbage.
let the shitstorm commence.

[nodrover]

I couldnt fucking stop laughing after watching the today show interview. I am still fuckin laughing kinda. Loooove it!

This dude is fucking delusional

[QueenofDenial]

Doesn't it seem like Charlie could be bi-polar/manic depressive? The way he talks about being super-human(paraphrasing) and having "tigers blood", etc? To me he seems like he is on a manic high.
JMHO.

[babyd]

What pisses me off about Sheen is that he seems to have no remorse regarding all of the people who just lost their jobs because of his antics. That show is a big production, and his actions have just cost a ton of people jobs. While he gets to go on his private jet with his porn stars the people that make that show are now scrambling to pay their bills.

If he wants to fuck up his own life, who am I to judge? But now he is messing with up other peoples money...thats what I have an issue with. I can't stand when these actors (ahem, Tom Cruise) get so rich that they start believing their own hype.

Someone mentioned that he didn't have a morals clause in his contract, but there are ways around that. From what I understand he was clearly fucked up at work alot, to the point where they had to move his marks to have him leaning up against furniture or sitting down rather than standing. CBS would just need to prove that he was unable to perform at his job, sounds like that shouldn't be too hard to prove and I doubt anyone will from that show will be coming to his defense now...

[SHELLEY]

in his defense, cocaine and sex are fun

[Chipper]

in his defense, cocaine and sex are fun

If he wants to live life to the fullest and trash himself then who am I to judge ? I've done the same but without the budget.

I also admit that he made me laugh a few times ... I like that. Not many people who like their drugs stand much of a chance with fame and fortune.

Too much money, the "godesses" etc. ... a coveted situation ... it's all so unnatural. I just hopes he makes it out alive.

He seems hyperactive to me, maybe that's why he loves his stims. One thing I can say for sure is that most guys would trade places with him in a heartbeat.

[Hankswife]

Did anyone see the girls (goddesses) that he's living with being interviewed this morning? One of them looked like perhaps her jaw was going lopsided, something I tended to do when using alot o coke, vs grinding.
I'm just looking at his general pallor, and his eyes are looking kind of zany. He claims to be clean, and had some paperwork to that effect. Does anyone really even buy it? IDK-- I thought he was warning them a couple weeks ago that "a storm was on its way" or something like that. That indicates to me that he was planning quite the toot. Celebrities are very different from us, they have much different lives, there are no opposing opinions, there are no negative consequences. The only consequence of his using coke would be the blues the next day. So just get high the next day! He is doomed. He is the embodiment of grandiosity, and narcissism. Tiger blood!?! thats so funny!

[mainline]

Doesn't it seem like Charlie could be bi-polar/manic depressive? The way he talks about being super-human(paraphrasing) and having "tigers blood", etc? To me he seems like he is on a manic high.
JMHO.



thats callled cocaine, love.

[hero 1]

what?

[Saint]

in his defense, cocaine and sex are fun

Also in his defense (& I don't know fuck all about him except what I've seen of him on t.v. + that he appreciates some quality dope & drink..) but I gotta admit, the guy's got *something*.
Like his sense of humour, or what seems like it on t.v...
& I like the 'I don't give a fuck what you think' type of guys anyway :-)

(although I may not like him IRL at all..)

[Hookahed]

Yeah, his attitude kinda reminds me of Hunter S. Thompson, Chevy Chase, John Belushi, Jerry Garcia and Jack Keroauk all rolled into one.

He is a very talented artist who has made a lot of people laugh and think. People tend to get caught up in the hype and forget that there are many sucessful actors, actresses, models, musicians, etcederin (sp he he he!) that have been and continue to be successful in their careers and family lives.Considering the amount of money celebrities make and the fact that there are always going to be people trying to befriend them by sharing ANYTHING it's surprising more of them don't screw up and hit the "bounce right back" celebrity version of rock bottom.

I doubt the "Godesses" are going to be hanging around for another 20 years as they raise his kids and send them off to college. Right now he is flirting with disaster but then so would I if I were in his position. I hope he is able to pull himself out of the maelstrom and salvage his life and career.

[Count Zero]

I'm starting to admire him more, anyone who tells "society" to take the box they want to put you in and go fuck themselves deserves some congratulations.
"The majority of men lead lives of quiet desperation and take the song with them to their graves".
Not Charlie Sheen (apparently)

[opi8]

in his defense, cocaine and sex are fun

I have to disagree cause cocaine=no wood

I can't believe that he passed that drug test, dude seems like he is high out of his mind. I usually could give a fuck less about whats going on with celebrities and all that but I have been loving watching all the charlie sheen interviews and media coverage.

[babyd]

I have to retract what I posted on here earlier about him not giving a fuck about all the people who lost their jobs when the show went under. Sheen was on Stern this morning and announced that he fought hard to make sure all of those people got paid for the rest of the season.

I like him so much more after hearing that! And he was making some sense on Stern, definitely wasn't as manic as he has been in other interviews this week. He was making some good points about just letting him live his life.

What a fucking pimp...he said that there are 2 beds in the bedroom and he decides every night which "goddess" he is going to sleep with!

[seven10kids]

What pisses me off about Sheen is that he seems to have no remorse regarding all of the people who just lost their jobs because of his antics. That show is a big production, and his actions have just cost a ton of people jobs. While he gets to go on his private jet with his porn stars the people that make that show are now scrambling to pay their bills.

If he wants to fuck up his own life, who am I to judge? But now he is messing with up other peoples money...thats what I have an issue with. I can't stand when these actors (ahem, Tom Cruise) get so rich that they start believing their own hype.


Actually its not that bad. The network (i forget, nbc, abc, cbs, whatever one) that airs 2 and 1/2 men has agreed to pay everyone (cept sheen) their salary for the shows that were not produced. They get paid for 4 more episodes they didnt even have to work on. This last season was supposed to have 8 more episodes, but they are NOT getting paid for the 4 episodes when the show was on "high ate us". so that is pretty fair.

Sheen is all pissed he isnt getting paid the 1.8mill per episode, but he doenst need it. nor does he deserve it some would argue. whatever, if i had that much dough, i would be parting my ass off, wouldnt you guys?

I think a lot of what he is saying is cocaine related psychosis, but really, he is a comedian, he is trying to get media attention, and it is working. I had actually never heard of or watched the show until 2 weeks ago. So you can see it is a great publicity stunt if anything.

would be sad to see him die pre maturely. but that is the way most of the greats go. Maybe we can "save him" and 12 step him back to a respectable human being. but what would he do with all his free time and money? Maybe it is time for him to pick up some new hobbies?

what would you do with 1.8mill times however many episodes he is getting paid for? That is the real question running thru my mind... He is set for life, no matter how long he live. He could live to be 200 and still do coke, fuck hookers and fly around the world all day. but really, he should quit, do it for the childeren. must suck when you are famous.

you are totally under the microscope for everything. Look at the "golden voiced" hobo. he fell off after 2 weeks. went to rehab and now no one gives a shit what his voice sounds like... if charlie gets sober and stops acting like a nut it would give everyone nothing to talk about. no fun.

[Count Zero]

The hookers I maybe get-never been my style, I like gfs-but all that coke? Poor guy, if only he knew, he'd be happier with $200-or $2,000- worth of dope than with all the coke in the world. Smoking 7 gram rocks, not for me thanks.
Edit: don't want to dis his hooker/gfs, I'm sure there's a lot more to it, maybe they're all just deeply in love and the kids get brought up in a "poly-amorous" household. Ya think?

[skeezerjohns22]

well, according to the tmz shiz he's "winning' while i'm "losing"...

no multiple "goddesses" for skeezer :frown:

at least i still have my sitcom to fall back on :tongue:

[seven10kids]

rich people do coke because it is the caviar of drugs. pills are for kids, rocks are for crackheads, tweak is for rednecks.

notice how he drinks all kinds of red wine too, not high life or oe800 or anything like us "losers" drink.

wonder what his pops is going to say about all this. didnt his dad encourage people to turn him in when he was running from a warrant?

[Chuckles]

"I was banging 7 gram rocks because that's how I roll"


"I'm proud of what I created it was radical... because I expose people to magic, i expose them to something they are never other going to see in their boring normal lives, and I gave that to them. I may forget about them tomorrow but they'll live with that memory for the rest of their lives and that's a gift man"



This guy is winning.

[opi8]

rich people do coke because it is the caviar of drugs. pills are for kids, rocks are for crackheads, tweak is for rednecks.

notice how he drinks all kinds of red wine too, not high life or oe800 or anything like us "losers" drink.

wonder what his pops is going to say about all this. didnt his dad encourage people to turn him in when he was running from a warrant?

I thought I heard or read that he was smoking his "suitcase of cocaine"

[limitless_euphoria]

Personally, I think he's DEFINITELY still drinking and doing lots of coke and God knows what else. Some of his rants and diatribes reek of a coked-out, drunk-off-his-ass, pompous narcissist.

The only difference between Charlie Harper and Charlie Sheen is that the latter is a wife-beater and a loser. He's so far in denial it's just pathetic. At least the majority of those of us who consider ourselves junkies on this site don't deny it and pretend like we're just too fucking cool for school.

It cracks me up that he gave the ultimatum that he wants $3 million per episode of Two and A Half Men if they actually somehow even want him back. Yeah, I'm sure after all the shit he said they're just dying to get him back. Shit, maybe they'll even pay him $4 million an episode! He's so cool simply because he's Charlie Sheen, after all! /SARCASM

First, I remember reading he supposedly he had left a loaded handgun in his trousers because the thought there was an intruder in his home back in the early-90s when he was engaged to Brook Mueller. Anyone wonder why she married John Travolta instead? They were on the bathroom floor and supposedly there was an "accident" and it discharged. Some accident!

In the late-90s, according to AOL news, he tried shooting coke for the first time and didn't know what he was doing and he overdosed!

I'm sorry, but he's become a Loser with a capital "L" in my mind. He's already committed career suicide; I wouldn't be surprised if one day he ends up like Brittany Murphy or Corey Haim. I mean, given his vast financial resources he can fuel his drug and alcohol habit forever and since he's probably alienated anyone that actually gives a shit about him I don't think anyone's going to be bothered trying to pull an intervention.

On February 21st, TMZ reported that now he wants Denise Richards and Brooke Mueller to move in with him so he can pretend he's the real-life Bill Paxton!

You know who I feel bad for? His kids, his ex-wives and the cast of Two and A Half Men! What did any of them do to suffer collateral damage from his shenanigans? Who the FUCK does this dude think he is??? Seriously! They say "no publicity is bad publicity" when it comes to celebs but I think he is no doubt the exception to the rule...

P.S. Don't get me wrong, he's quite the comedian, but as a person, he's so full of himself it just makes me laugh... at him. And, kind of feel sorry. I really hope nothing bad happens to the dude but, at this rate, I seriously doubt he's long for this world. What a damn shame. I really liked Two and A Half Men, too. Oh well. Nuff said.

[steppencyde]

such funny interviews...

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[OxyBlowBall2]

for the past 20 years Charlie Sheen has been my idol. For some reason ever since i was a little kid i thought he was one of the coolest dudes ever. he's saying more and more crazy shit each day though but i'm down with assassin warlocks and shit. i just hope he doesn't die.

"the only thing i'm addicted to right now is winning!"

[AndiPandi]

Meh, I'm not certain he's clean either. How many people abstain long enough to pass a test? I do think he's a little full of himself, however he should live how he wants. Aside from the violence towards women. That is not cool at all.

Maybe we'll see him on an upcoming season of 'Celebrity Rehab'. Dr. Drew is the real drug with the tiger's blood. We all know that. :tongue: I bet they'd pay him the 3 mil he's looking for, too.

[SuperJunky]

Any one watch the 20/20 interview in his own words thing on abc last night? Guy is fuckin out of his head, reminds me of RJ just before he went down but with more energy. Seriously. I know personally what some one looks like after a week or two of no sleep and excess beyond belief and he's there. God bless the man. Yes I am sick and twisted, and I say fuck interventions, let him roll until he blows.

[edhorfin]

I've been RIVETED to all the Charlie coverage and its awesome TV. Maniac, wildman, insane, call him whatever you want.....I don't think there is a single thing he has said or done this week that wasn't planned carefully....His Publicist quit, so he;'s on his own, which can be really dangerous. But, we are talking about a "rock star from Mars"...Highest paid actor in th HISTORY OF TV!!! I have no idea how it will all pan out, but man its fun to watch.

He is getting more coverage than any one of the Oscar winners, as much as any disaster, rebellion or any other news story. That is not easy to do. Especially without a publicist.

The lure of smoked coke is damn strong for those inclined. Stopping for long periods is tough, unless access is denied. If someone shows up with an 8 ball I'm pretty sure he'll be fucked immediately. Never was my thing, which is why I'm not reading cocainiphile...Although, having IV'd copious amounts of the stuff, I get it. But a man has to sleep, you know?

Anyway, I'm not too worried about Charlie. I think after all the dust settles, his career will continue. Unlike Mel Gibson, he hasn't directed vitriol at groups, races, or even true key players in Hollywood. His series IS a gold mine for CBS, and they really need to look at the numbers, work this out, and start the printing presses again.

Think about this: If Two and Half Men was highly rated BEFORE, what do you think will happen to the ratings AFTER all this crap? I don't think they will lose share points...

[Flowergirl]

I don't give a shit about the drugs. He can do what the fuck he wants in that regard. What I DO care about is the fact that he is a woman beater. Not a role model or a father any child needs. He's an abusive waste of space on this planet for what he has done, drugs or no drugs.

He's a trainwreck heading nowhere good right now. I feel for those who love him and wonder how much longer they can unconditionally.

[Hankswife]

I was not surprised that the authorities swooped in and grabbed up his boys last night! Someone doesn't believe the negative drug tests are real. He is looking rougher and rougher, my gut tells me its coke, but something in my head is buying into all of his denial, and then after reading the Stern interview on marksfriggin yesterday, for some strange reason I want to believe him. I am learning to trust my gut instincts as I get older.

[Canis aureus]

HAHAHA!

I liked that "Tiger Blood"! You know how much truth there is. It's just hollywood shit talk: it's actor's reply, nothing else... no truthvalue.

[clinton]

hes obviously cracked..hes in the im in control of my life stage even as he and everyone else is watching it go downward rather quickly..

[Locke]

Cats quoting Charlie Sheen (http://mediumlarge.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/cats-quote-charlie-sheen/)

Yeah, I dunno about the negative drug tests. It almost seems like he could just be rebounding from a long run on coke and oxys and who knows what else and his mind and body are just on the edge because of it. That's how I was when I was sober last month, just talking talking talking and shaking back and forth and smoking cigarettes. Lots of people who were never able to recognize that I was fucked up were telling me that I seemed like I was on something. On the other hand, Charlie's looking completely coked out so who knows. He definitely doesn't look like he's been sleeping much.

The whole winning thing is funny for a while but it gets old and then he just comes off as a complete asshole. I want to laugh but it's getting harder and harder to care about this moron.

[QueenofDenial]

Oh. I didn't even think of that. Have never done cocaine, but that makes sense from what I have heard about it.

[Chipper]

Technically, it's possibly de facto polygamy, not that there's anything wrong with that, but society, well, they don't seem to like the Big Love trip. Lots of jealousy all 'round and nothing really too worrying.

Sorry ladies but at some point, he's going to get them nagging at him when they stop kissing ass and get psuedo-assertive ... then it's "bye bye" ... and ... "Next !". The power balance is never going to be right ... those girls are in over their heads, I reckon.

What - 24 y/o ? Where's the challenge ? Nobody would stand up to your shit And we all have some. We all love Charlie. I'm not sure if the kids are in any real danger or not (if I was a kid, I'd swap places with them right now), say what you will but IMHO, he's hard not to like.

Stardust everywhere but as my perceptive buddy pointed out, the actual dwelling in the poolside interview, had little genuine warmth going on. Charlie would also probably be devoid of any healthy servings himself, apart from his parents but even then ...

It keeps coming back to the power balance: I did not see any true peers and therein lies another problem.

Fuck, what do i know ? I still wish i was on his mates list; am I being shallow ?

[Poppylvr]

Doesn't it seem like Charlie could be bi-polar/manic depressive? The way he talks about being super-human(paraphrasing) and having "tigers blood", etc? To me he seems like he is on a manic high.
JMHO.
QueenofDenial, I believe you have hit the nail on the head. Squarely.
Both my husband and I work in psychiatry. As I watched the most recent interviews, I had the eerie feeling that I was sitting in our locked unit's interview room admitting a person with severe bipolar disorder, manic phase, with psychosis. Possibly even a person with schizoaffective disorder, bipolar. Those ridiculous media drug tests show that he's not taking any drug that shows in conventional tests. He may be using Ivory Wave - we have had at least 10 admissions recently from Ivory Wave induced psychosis
I don't think anything about Charlie Sheen is funny. I think it's heartbreaking that a mental illness is spiraling out of control so publicly. I'm sick that his family hasn't tried to get guardianship and get him committed to psychiatric care. Martin Sheen nailed it in interview- "It's like he has cancer". It is - and untreated mania can be lethal.
Charlie is displaying all the signs of mania with psychosis - grandiosity, unusual thoughts, invincibility. An enormous number of persons with bipolar disorder self medicate. Some with opiates to calm the mania and let them function, others, like Sheen, because they LOVE the mania and want to perpetuate it.
Uncontrolled mania can be fatal. The person doesn't sleep or eat for days, and in varying amounts of time they truly can die from physical burnout/exhaustion.
Call me Debbie Downer, but I think what's happening to Sheen is a tragedy. I think his Dad needs to petition the courts for guardianship (like Brittany Spears' Dad did, for the same reason), and then have Charlie legally committed to a psychiatric hospital, with a court ruling for forced medication until his mania eases enough that he takes meds willingly.
I see this every day at work, and one of the possible outcomes for this level of illness is Sheen's death. I pray it doesn't come to that.

[More Feen]

Man, celebrities oughta learn that the more they open their mouths and spout their personal views (nothing wrong with that, but) the worse its gonna be for them.

Cruise, Gibson, Richards, Sheen, when they start rambling-on, they are gonna say shit that's gonna offend people, or make them ask more questions.

Best to remain silent and be thought a drug-adled moron, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

(above paraphrased)

M F

[paups]

Goddamnit I spent like 15min UTMFSEing to find out how to embed youtube videos and I cant fucking figure it out..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkrKq82M_QY

Its not even that funny..:mad: Oh well..

[LayinLow]

Poppylvr - amazing post, exactly my thoughts as well as to what is going on... I am bi-polar, and while now properly medicated to control really bad mania, it was easy to blow every cent I had on drugs/B.S. and not care while manic (thousands $$), take dumb risks with driving impaired, gangsters w/ guns drawn at careless deals etc.. I was bullet proof, remember!.., and constantly got arrested. I couldn't imagine how I would have acted being as rich and 'able' as Sheen is, I'm sure I would be dead. His infinite money supply, hot women egging him on, crazy big houses etc etc and you end up with a mental illness out of control like you were saying, right in front of our eyes. It is sad. He needs psychiatric in-patient care NOW... but everyone sits back and thinks it's all a big joke and it's just the drugs.... doubt it. I personally do think he's clean besides maybe a SSRI 'normal, daily' medication he takes, which will make his mania much worse taken alone without a mood stabilizer or anti-psychotic. Then maybe a Lunesta at night, thinking nothing of it... but his 'daily' medications prescribed to him before this whole fiasco was brought to light, are surely playing some role in making his mania worse... ack...

[duck]

I'm gonna show up at his pad at 4am on a Saturday right when he's realizing.that no.matter how many grams of.coke he adds on, he only feels.worse, and Ima whip out a finger of.some Detroit raw.and be rich. He will consider me god andwe will party until we die.

[Hankswife]

charlie sheen is all5813

[SapphireBlue]

Personally, I think he's DEFINITELY still drinking and doing lots of coke and God knows what else. Some of his rants and diatribes reek of a coked-out, drunk-off-his-ass, pompous narcissist.

The only difference between Charlie Harper and Charlie Sheen is that the latter is a wife-beater and a loser. He's so far in denial it's just pathetic. At least the majority of those of us who consider ourselves junkies on this site don't deny it and pretend like we're just too fucking cool for school.

It cracks me up that he gave the ultimatum that he wants $3 million per episode of Two and A Half Men if they actually somehow even want him back. Yeah, I'm sure after all the shit he said they're just dying to get him back. Shit, maybe they'll even pay him $4 million an episode! He's so cool simply because he's Charlie Sheen, after all! /SARCASM

I'm sorry, but he's become a Loser with a capital "L" in my mind. He's already committed career suicide; I wouldn't be surprised if one day he ends up like Brittany Murphy or Corey Haim. I mean, given his vast financial resources he can fuel his drug and alcohol habit forever and since he's probably alienated anyone that actually gives a shit about him I don't think anyone's going to be bothered trying to pull an intervention.

You know who I feel bad for? His kids, his ex-wives and the cast of Two and A Half Men! What did any of them do to suffer collateral damage from his shenanigans? Who the FUCK does this dude think he is??? Seriously! They say "no publicity is bad publicity" when it comes to celebs but I think he is no doubt the exception to the rule...

P.S. Don't get me wrong, he's quite the comedian, but as a person, he's so full of himself it just makes me laugh... at him. And, kind of feel sorry. I really hope nothing bad happens to the dude but, at this rate, I seriously doubt he's long for this world. What a damn shame. I really liked Two and A Half Men, too. Oh well. Nuff said.

^^^YES - all of this!! I used to watch that show regularly a couple years ago and it really is a great show. This is just sad.


I don't give a shit about the drugs. He can do what the fuck he wants in that regard. What I DO care about is the fact that he is a woman beater. Not a role model or a father any child needs. He's an abusive waste of space on this planet for what he has done, drugs or no drugs.

He's a trainwreck heading nowhere good right now. I feel for those who love him and wonder how much longer they can unconditionally.

FG I completely agree with this. The domestic violence shit trumps all the rest. I can't help but feel like he is circling the drain...another John Belushi.


QueenofDenial, I believe you have hit the nail on the head. Squarely.
Both my husband and I work in psychiatry. As I watched the most recent interviews, I had the eerie feeling that I was sitting in our locked unit's interview room admitting a person with severe bipolar disorder, manic phase, with psychosis. Possibly even a person with schizoaffective disorder, bipolar. Those ridiculous media drug tests show that he's not taking any drug that shows in conventional tests. He may be using Ivory Wave - we have had at least 10 admissions recently from Ivory Wave induced psychosis
I don't think anything about Charlie Sheen is funny. I think it's heartbreaking that a mental illness is spiraling out of control so publicly. I'm sick that his family hasn't tried to get guardianship and get him committed to psychiatric care. Martin Sheen nailed it in interview- "It's like he has cancer". It is - and untreated mania can be lethal.
Charlie is displaying all the signs of mania with psychosis - grandiosity, unusual thoughts, invincibility. An enormous number of persons with bipolar disorder self medicate. Some with opiates to calm the mania and let them function, others, like Sheen, because they LOVE the mania and want to perpetuate it.
Uncontrolled mania can be fatal. The person doesn't sleep or eat for days, and in varying amounts of time they truly can die from physical burnout/exhaustion.
Call me Debbie Downer, but I think what's happening to Sheen is a tragedy. I think his Dad needs to petition the courts for guardianship (like Brittany Spears' Dad did, for the same reason), and then have Charlie legally committed to a psychiatric hospital, with a court ruling for forced medication until his mania eases enough that he takes meds willingly.
I see this every day at work, and one of the possible outcomes for this level of illness is Sheen's death. I pray it doesn't come to that.

PL I am no psych nurse, but I definitely thought that he sounded manic. I guess my biggest question is, is it cocaine-induced, or is he really truly bipolar?

[Hankswife]

^^^YES - all of this!! I used to watch that show regularly a couple years ago and it really is a great show. This is just sad.



FG I completely agree with this. The domestic violence shit trumps all the rest. I can't help but feel like he is circling the drain...another John Belushi.



PL I am no psych nurse, but I definitely thought that he sounded manic. I guess my biggest question is, is it cocaine-induced, or is he really truly bipolar?

I agree with all you guys, my sister is manic and self meds, and our family has seen this behavior (and have had to have her commited as well) - its similar to the way Mr Sheen has been acting, the bags under his eyes and his apparent loss of weight is much more telling than anything he can say. The grandiosity of the untreated addict in full swing. I really pity his family. And at the cost of sounding preachy, seeing him every morning, only makes me grateful that I don't have enough money to go down that road.

[jdub]

Might buy this t-shirt.

5815

[Restharrow]

How many people are going to like a guy making $2mil. a week, smoking suitcases of coke, living with porn stars, private jets, etc.

(He gets my vote to take over Hefner's place in the PB mansion when replacement time comes).

I feel sorry for all the small people on his show, painters, carpenters (working on the sets), etc.

Will

EDIT: Seeing Charlie makes me realize I do NOT want to win the lottery of $180 million. I would be on the Phile telling you guys I am high on Will and have tiger blood in my vains.

[Michael]

The bit about him banging 7 gram rocks. I wondered if he meant like banging as in the term we use or just finishing them like bang bang bang type thing. My logic points to the fact he meant smoking them but I'd like to believe Sheens a needle guy and used to shoot quarter ounce hits, cooked in a soup ladle.

Also, I'm going to start referring to being tweaked / stimmed as being sheened. I'll be saying "Damn man, this is good. I'm sheening my brains out right now"

[Chipper]

<snip> how to embed youtube videos and I cant fucking figure it out<snip>

Pdq, I missed this bit -- if nobody has shown you how to embed videos then run your pointer over the film-looking button in the toolbar (where the Bolding and Italics buttons etc. are, in EDIT mode, of course).

It will let you know that it's the "Insert Video" button and you can check other controls out this way. Sorry about the delay, Paupie and warm thanks for this great thread - it's captured a lot of people's attention and imagination as he's a true top end drug user where money is no object.

If he injects his dope - who would know ? That much money must at least buy a clean drug test and a top-end venipuncturist - anything is possible.

[QueenofDenial]

Poppylvr & Layinlow---I too have known quite a few bi-polar/manic depression patients. The main one being my beloved father. He turned to alcohol to try and fix himself(although he managed to find sobriety for 17 years before he died). Just finished reading another book about bi-polar, "An Unquiet Mind"(Kay Redfield Jamieson) who is also a psychotherapist & professor, and of course the book by Patty Duke Austin "A Brilliant Madness". So many people out there right now with undiagnosed mania.
What I see when I watch Charlie is hypo-mania, that is completely running and ruining his life.
To me he looks(as Poppylvr stated) like he hasn't slept in days and the mania has totally taken over. The media has given him the floor to fall apart on, in front of our eyes, and not one person has taken a stand(except his agent) and attempted(that I am aware of) to get guardianship. This man is definitely a danger to himself and others.
Sure, the coke could be making him worse(way worse), but as we all know, the manic part of this disease is one that people enjoy. Hell, I wouldn't mind being about to feel that great about myself, and do all the things I believe I am capable of doing. Why not add some drugs to make myself feel even better? Make the mania last longer? His mind IS NOT working right!
The things he is saying are signs of is loss of touch with reality.
Poppy---I feel really sad for him too. As we all watch him fall apart, and they keep sticking the microphones in his face. Instead of telling him "NO!", and putting him in a psych hospital to get the treatment he desperately needs.
Again, just my 2cents worth.

[danny]

ride that shit till the mufuckin wheels fall off carlito, THATS SHOW BUSINESS!!!!

[ryan5892]

I'm gonna show up at his pad at 4am on a Saturday right when he's realizing.that no.matter how many grams of.coke he adds on, he only feels.worse, and Ima whip out a finger of.some Detroit raw.and be rich. He will consider me god andwe will party until we die.

can i come?

[Chuckles]

dude.... banging 7gram rocks...

[MoreNowAgain]

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[jimmyfingers]

Charlie Sheen is the fucking shit.

I do feel bad that he had part of his dick surgically removed. Apparently, he had some version of gangrene from too much dirty vag. They had to remove half of the head. It seems to have not affected him if he is still banging porn stars

[JuStOnEmOrE?]

Well.... it was just realeased that Charlie is no longer going to have a job....

I guess that just leaves more to to bang 7 gram rocks, and to limp coke dick screw hookers. I feel so bad for him now. **SOB**:frown::frown:

[Michael]

How much coke has charlie done?
enough to kill two and a half men.

[nick]

I'm gonna show up at his pad at 4am on a Saturday right when he's realizing.that no.matter how many grams of.coke he adds on, he only feels.worse, and Ima whip out a finger of.some Detroit raw.and be rich. He will consider me god andwe will party until we die.

Yeah,I must admit,I'm intrigued no one has turned him onto dope.

Nothing else to say on the subject-watching someone suffering isn't my bag,but if you're into that sort of thing,there's a guy outside Camden town tube station who's always so wired he'll only communicate by tweeting like a bird.

[Chuckles]

Nothing else to say on the subject-watching someone suffering isn't my bag,but if you're into that sort of thing,there's a guy outside Camden town tube station who's always so wired he'll only communicate by tweeting like a bird.

Normally I'd be with you on this, but he seems to be going out of his way to make it so goddamn entertaining... i feel like I would be doing him a disservice NOT to.

Besides, he's not bi-polar. He's a bi-winner.

[Count Zero]

Maybe he's just bi and one of the godesses is a tranny.

[upstate_007]

Yeah,I must admit,I'm intrigued no one has turned him onto dope.

Nothing else to say on the subject-watching someone suffering isn't my bag,but if you're into that sort of thing,there's a guy outside Camden town tube station who's always so wired he'll only communicate by tweeting like a bird.

I would guarantee that he has tried dope before. Just like a lot of us here are not into stims, it would be similar to him not being into dope.

And yes, I do not like watching someone suffer as he obviously is.

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[Chipper]

Paupie, I almost spat my rice bubbles out ! SO funny.

[jsep]

I would guarantee that he has tried dope before. Just like a lot of us here are not into stims, it would be similar to him not being into dope.

And yes, I do not like watching someone suffer as he obviously is.
I saw one of his many interviews and he said that he won't even take a pain pill. I believe he described them as "whoa."

[Tony]

Good thread!

I am of the mind that he is sadly self destructing in front of us all. I feel sorry for his 5 kids and anyone else the has any love left for the guy.

I have never been near the same level as Charlie as far as fame and fortune goes. But I have danced
with Bi-Polar disorder. If I would have had access to his money I would have been dead many moons ago.

I hope the Gods shine on Charlie before he blows his heart out. He is very close to the age when the body can no longer
take the abuse.

When in the grip of Mania he is fearless and shameless. Not a good combo.

Good time Charlie's got the blues.......

PAC

[Count Zero]

I saw one of his many interviews and he said that he won't even take a pain pill. I believe he described them as "whoa."

Funny, I'd describe doing a 7 gram hit of rock as "whoa".