Norco Love and Crazy Pill Searching..

[Sumocat]

Hi,

Newbie here, first post, so go easy on me ;)

SWIM loves hydrocodone. Used to have access to the Norco 10/325's. SWIM's lucky enough to have a low tolerance, so even just 1 gets a nice buzz on.

Sadly, SWIM hasn't come across *any* opiates for over a month now. No withdrawals at all, just missing the experience and the blissful relaxation.

Just wondering what others do when they find themselves in a dry spell? SWIM's found herself looking for pills in random places. You know the drill..maybe one fell under the couch cushions..or behind the couch, in some pants pockets...maybe someone will drop one in a parking lot, lol, etc...

SWIM is mostly way too sketched out to go looking on the streets, though did luck out one time getting some from some homeless guy, amazingly enough. Now she's thinking about trying pod tea if she can get a hold of some. The seed tea thing has been tried several times and just doesn't seem to work.

Uhhm, no other real point to this post other than to say 'hello' and just contribute some thoughts. Hope everyone is having a good evening and, if they're lucky, a good nod.
-S

[zombiewoof23]

Welcome Sumo. I can recall when I first started on this site getting off on codeine. I'm already having a tough time getting off on hydro's anymore. Freaking sucks. I would say if you want to keep your tolerance low and want to keep enjoying your buzz, to try to limit your opiate intake. Of course that's what everybody tries to do, so easier said than done. Digging and searching for pills is, to me, a sign of the obsessive side of the opiates creeping up on you and already sticking in your brain. I don't consider myself a junky, but definitely have the taste now. It doesn't take long.

[Sumocat]

Hi Zombie,

Understand what you mean about the 'obsessive' side. This has concerned SWIM in the past..well, still concerns her from time to time. She is not normally obsessive, in recreational terms, but more during times when she's feeling unwell and knows that this stuff would help.

She has(at this time) a lot of unexplained chronic pain that her doc thinks might be fibromyalgia, but they haven't decided on treatment yet. The flare ups DO make her a bit fixated on the idea of opiates for the reasons mentioned earlier.

However, she's glad to learn from others about the dangers. So far, she has avoided a full-on addiction problem and would prefer to keep it that way. Recreational value only lasts so long..
-S

[Hiems]

Hey Sumocat, I dont usually post here but will just to give you a bit of important advice. If want to continue to be able to enjoy norco and any other relatively weak opi, do not and I repeat do NOT get involved with tea. It will completely ruin your ability to get off on any other opiate by tolerance increase. It happened to me, now taking 10+ percocet is not even adequate to stave off w/ds. Beware. Plus much harder to come off than norco or anything like that. Stick with pills.

[Sumocat]

Hey Hiems,

Could you tell me more about the exact risk with tea? Specifically, could it be sampled *once* at a very small dose and be ok..or is it one of those situations where SWIM has one 'taste' and is a "goner" from that point on?

If that's the case, then I'll definitely avoid the tea. My opi usage averages like 3 or 4 pills a month when I have them. Don't want to go beyond that, and definitely don't want to ruin it by doing anything stupid.

Thanks for the heads up.

Sumo

[LayinLow]

Hey Hiems,

Could you tell me more about the exact risk with tea? Specifically, could it be sampled *once* at a very small dose and be ok..or is it one of those situations where SWIM has one 'taste' and is a "goner" from that point on?

If that's the case, then I'll definitely avoid the tea. My opi usage averages like 3 or 4 pills a month when I have them. Don't want to go beyond that, and definitely don't want to ruin it by doing anything stupid.

Thanks for the heads up.

Sumo

3 or 4 pills a month is not a habit to be worried about. I guess I'm different from the others, I would give a little tea a try if I were you, just see how you like it. It won't ruin any tolerance you have since you use so little. I do remember the days when I use to only use that many, each time was so special, since it was only once or twice a month. Welcome to the world of opiates. :-)

[zombiewoof23]

Hey Hiems,

Could you tell me more about the exact risk with tea? Specifically, could it be sampled *once* at a very small dose and be ok..or is it one of those situations where SWIM has one 'taste' and is a "goner" from that point on?

If that's the case, then I'll definitely avoid the tea. My opi usage averages like 3 or 4 pills a month when I have them. Don't want to go beyond that, and definitely don't want to ruin it by doing anything stupid.

Thanks for the heads up.

Sumo

Tolerance to tea seemed to build very quickly for me. Also you are ingesting all of the akaloids that make up the tea (morphine, codeine, thebaine, papaverine, etc.) as opposed to one isolated alkaloid with a pill, I would assume that really works your receptors. With this your tolerance can build very rapidly as well as dependance if used frequently. You can do what you want. We all do. You can most definitely sample anything once and be okay if you use caution and educate yourself on dosages, etc. Because you are taking the substance in the form of a tea does not make the substance harmless, just educate yourself and if you want to keep your tolerance and potential for addiction in check, try not to use the substance too frequently. You aren't a goner, as far as being a full blown addict, with anything after one use. It's when your body adjusts to those chemicals and learns to need them to make you feel normal, is when you can start to get into trouble. Everybody's obessive type behavior is different with different things. I personally love to experiment with different substances, but in my ripe old age of 28 I also like to do my research prior to diving in, as opposed to when I thought I was a rock star and partied as such while I was in high school and college. Also don't be afraid to read the many threads dedicated to each substance on this site. www.erowid.com is also an excellent resource. That site is a little more vague when it comes to opiates, but still a good reliable resource none the less.

[pinion]

Hey Sumocat, I dont usually post here but will just to give you a bit of important advice. If want to continue to be able to enjoy norco and any other relatively weak opi, do not and I repeat do NOT get involved with tea. It will completely ruin your ability to get off on any other opiate by tolerance increase. It happened to me, now taking 10+ percocet is not even adequate to stave off w/ds. Beware. Plus much harder to come off than norco or anything like that. Stick with pills.

This isn't completely accurate, if you're drinking tea everyday then yes, norco aint shit; but if you drink tea for awhile and then abstain and let your endorphin levels return to normal, then small amounts of weak narcotics will be noticeable again. Tolerance is directly related to current intake, a cup of tea a week doesn't mean that you can't/won't enjoy hydro..

Tea is no joke though, you don't want to be strung out on that shit.

[(inaudible screams)]

GOD DAMN THAT HYDRO PUSHIN' MAN!

heh...The Pusher is playing on the stereo. The Blind Melon version.

[southernbelle]

Hey Hiems, I'm new here too and appreciate the advice on the tea. SWIM was getting low on her lortabs and thought about tea. Thanks to you she won't be trying it. She has enough trouble with the lortabs (10mg).

[defenestrate]

i'll have to agree with the others. tea will end any chance of getting off on vicodin if you make it regular. it will also addict you quite easily. it's the main thing i do, and even while maintaining a very modest dose, my tolerance is such that i can hang with some pretty heavy users.

[Babydollangel]

Hey Sumocat, I dont usually post here but will just to give you a bit of important advice. If want to continue to be able to enjoy norco and any other relatively weak opi, do not and I repeat do NOT get involved with tea. It will completely ruin your ability to get off on any other opiate by tolerance increase. It happened to me, now taking 10+ percocet is not even adequate to stave off w/ds. Beware. Plus much harder to come off than norco or anything like that. Stick with pills.


well now that I want to try pt I see this post :( ..i already have to take a handful of norco to feel any affect whereas six month ago half of one of those babies knocked me on my ass (ahh the good ol days!) i sure dont want to mess around with something that might get ahold of me more than hydro. does..i have purposely 'made' myself stay with this drug out of fear of getting involved with a more serious addiciton. thanks for posting this though.. i still might do the pt but at least I was warned i guess!