Mescaline AB Extraction

[TheTalkingAsshole]

I've been scouring the internet for a good tek but I'm not really coming up with anything. The last time around I did a alcohol extraction which was pretty good, but I'd like to try my hand at making some crystals.

[Opiyum]

There's a lot of stuff out there. If you google mescaline extraction you'll find a lot of information. There's even video's.

[TheTalkingAsshole]

There's a lot of stuff out there. If you google mescaline extraction you'll find a lot of information. There's even video's.

I've found some, but I was wondering if anyone had any experience with them.

[Opiyum]

From what I hear if you can manage extracting DMT than you can manage Mesc. It is a bit more difficult and there are some more things to learn and perfect, especially if you want pure white mescaline salts.
The major drawback is that the yields are, like DMT, from just below 1% - 2%. Only issue is Mescaline needs a higher dose. IF someone wants an intense ride then they're going to need upwards of 500mgs. which only leaves a few doses per 100g of cacti material.
I hear 100mgs with the morning coffee. Coffee and Mescaline have great synergy.
Some people talk of yields of up to 4-5% but its very rare. Now a days it's pretty hard to find a good vendor of potent cacti.

[Slime Machine]

yea its basically the same process as a DMT cook, but u acidify the oil in the end. its not too hard of a process really. yielding long pure needles might prove tough for someone new to the experience of making mescaline.... but yields will likely be there. as long as u dont completely ruin the experience.

the most important part of the process is the intial cook. with water, acid and heat. if u fail at that, the whole process is a waste of time. everything else is just emulsions and ph juggling. start off with an acidic tea, and filter the hell out of it. it will be a pain in the ass, im warning u! the plant material is like sticky snot and it wont get out of the solution without a fight first. i like to start off with a cut up tee shirt in a large funnel for that, then move on to other things later. if i rememebr correctly, a fridge decant helped drop a lot of particulate from the solution as well. mescaline is pretty stable at high ph's so bring it up to at least 11. then do your extract with toulene or the like and wash the oil with a few washes of water. at that point, u can salt out yer mescaline.

some people use plain vinegar and some like to use drops of conc hydrocholric acid. like az solution of 50% hcl/50%water.... with 25 drops added, shaken hard and then allowed to sit for 30 minutes. then 15 drops added, shaken for several minutes (as before) and then allowed to settle... repeating until no more precip occured. there's something from lunatic labs on the net somewhere. it was written in the 70's and it might be on erowid, tho i dunno. that write up gives a good over view of the entire process, included the salting procedure which i primitively tried to describe from memory. im sure some people even use dry HCl gas like the meth heads like to do. im sure gas would grow some really nice crystals actually, nice long silver needles, but ive never tried it with mescaline. always wanted to tho.

just make sure u use enough cacti to justify the extraction process. u will likely lose some in the works, so try and count that in. in other words, dont go at it with a foot of catctus and be pissed when yer yield is a few bumps worth. tho ive only done an ABA with mesc a few times, each yield had amazing potency. it was definately more energetic than i remeber the alcohol extracts and teas being. tho i lost a lot of product in the works, and unless i harvest a monster amount one day, i plan on sticking to alcohol putty instead. even though it is nastey to get down..... as opposed to popping a gelcap.

[danny]

dopey bollocks question from the uk - what is mescaline? also dmt, ive heard quite a bit about that on here....obviously i know theyre trip-out drugs but never experienced them myself, dont get them over here...
anything like acid or shrooms? them are the reference points ive got...

[chopstix]

You guys are trying too hard: http://wiki.dmt-nexus.com/House%27s_Cacti_Resin_Tek

Danny: I can't tell you about mesc (yet), but DMT is NOTHING like mushrooms or acid - not only is it not in the same ballpark, it's not of the same planet..

[TheTalkingAsshole]

You guys are trying too hard: http://wiki.dmt-nexus.com/House%27s_Cacti_Resin_Tek

Danny: I can't tell you about mesc (yet), but DMT is NOTHING like mushrooms or acid - not only is it not in the same ballpark, it's not of the same planet..

Lol, DMT is not of this dimension.

[danny]

it sounds difficult to explain to people that havent done it, but go on, have a try....

[Slime Machine]

think 'acid crack.' it is likely the most powerful psychedelic on the planet. not by weight but by effects from a typical dose. its effects are like other freebases, very rapid. the high can incompacitate the user into a trance like state. its like a powerful acid trip lumped into several minutes. quite powerful and very visual.

it is more closely related to mushrooms, more than acid. because both compounds are forms of the dmt chemical. its very hard to describe, but many describe it with the internsity of being shot out of a cannon or the way one would feel when they die. tho this is considered a "breakthrough dose," and it isnt always achieved... anything under this can bring on effects very similar to the traditional intensity of things like mushrooms and lsd, of average doses, but the effects do not last long at all.

it is believed that when a human is about to die, they have a dmt release in their brains. it is considered to be what is known as "my life flashing before my eyes." there is scientific evidence that shows that when a human is born and when it dies, the brains own supply of dimethyltryptamine gets released for a brief period of time. some even claim that this is a "spirit chemical" of sorts. there was a book on this, but i forgot the author's name. it has a picture of alex grey's art on the cover though. can anyone drop the name for me?

though dmt is very hard to explain. i love it, its a shame its harder to come by nowadays. at least in my part of town :(

[Thanat0s]

the spirit molecule?


...have you ever actually done dmt
or just read about others doing it?

[Slime Machine]

several times. im no stranger to the rootbark. and no, im not saying i agree with this, im just writing a little about some of the culture asscoiated with dmt. there was a book written on this subject and it has a following in the psychedelic community.

here's the book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1S1yEwmvf8&NR=1

[Slime Machine]

shit, i didnt realize i put the wrong link down. here's the book i was talking about, its a decent read for sure.

http://www.amazon.com/DMT-Molecule-Revolutionary-Near-Death-Experiences/dp/0892819278

[chopstix]

it sounds difficult to explain to people that havent done it, but go on, have a try....

Danny: I'll try my best here, this is VERY hard to describe or discuss, with those un-initiated..

The specific trips are fleeting.. Usually not a lot of memory, but the first time I "broke through" I will NEVER forget - singular deity but not alone, very Aztec/Mayan in "vibe" - interesting considering the source of the bark..

Since that breakthrough and the initial "dipping of the toes" - all fear of this is gone. I've had some good acid and Psylocybin trips, but they both bind up my guts and they simply last too long, it's an ok ride but I want off a lot earlier than they let me off and I come out feeling like shit.. I grew up in shroom country and I've done my rounds..

DMT is entirely different.. I'll smoke and then go out, drink, play pool, talk to ppl, then go home and smoke more, there's a lot of power in the short duration, it allows fine control. I really like "changa" - herbal infusions to then smoke; twist it up, go to a park, and share it with a friend or two..

What happens to me with lite doses: first geometry becomes VERY apparent and colors start to shift, it changes perceptions while being highly euphoric - I REALLY want to go fuck on this stuff, acid makes my balls crawl up; DMT gives me a hard-on..

Bigger hits, to me, are FANFUCKINGTASTALCALLY fun - glass dick and some butane bro, lets rock. I have read some negative reports, I'm not an expert and I can't say it's for everybody, but it CERTAINLY is for me - it's changed my life, my perceptions, in many ways.. I haven't smoked for weeks and I still look at things differently.

Again, I really can't say this is for everyone, but I don't thing getting your toes wet is gonna hurt you, and Changa is a great introduction to this VERY much sacred-for-a-reason molecule.

[Slime Machine]

anyone have good results with cleaning up cactus tar (the residue from an alcoholic extract) with acetone? i had read about something like that on the shroomery a while back and i cant find that post anymore. i was wondering if anyone here had ever got down with an acetone rinse. from what i hear it can clean up the tar a lot and reduce its coloring. never tried it tho with putty. i was thinking this could be a good extraction method for getting the bulk out of the cactus before proceeding into an ABA, to yield powder. theres just something so annoying about making tea and then doing all that filtering of that sticky gross liquid, that i wouldnt mindpicking up some everclear and acetone to avoid it.

yea so i dunno, i have used acetone for cleaning HCls and its great for that kind of stuff. like if u were to go thru an ABA, rinsing the salt with DRY acetone can really help purify the stuff, esp by whitening it up.

[Locke]

How did that dude get negative reputation?