Hydrocodone Somewhat Lacking?

[bnjmnwn]

Hey,

Recently I've been grounded for a marijuana-related incident. Going from smoking every day to abstaining for a month has taken its toll on me, so the moment I was able to, I went scouring my dad's bedroom for his stash. Unfortunately he moved it, so I didn't find anything. What I did find however was a large bottle of "vicadin substitute", 10 mg hydrocodone/660 mg APAP. This bottle was prescribed to my uncle who suffers from MS and a slew of other diseases, who was visiting a couple of days ago. According to my sister, my dad often asks to borrow painkillers from people, leading me to believe the hypocrite (who tells me it's his right to smoke because he has a job) also has a pill-popping habit.

Now, my friends, traditional stoners, persecute me at length whenever I mention opioids. I've never had an interest in pursuing them, I'm just open-minded about any sort of drug (a user in the tradition of Erowid). I did a bit of reading, and decided that if I didn't have any weed, it would be worth pursuing. So I took 1. Half an hour later I felt a bit relaxed, but nothing else. That night I took 3; once again, I felt drowsy and relaxed, but had none of the euphoria that I had read about.

Over the next few days I read more, and became more interested in opioids in general (I also found this website). So I figured, I want a REAL high, and popped 6. To my dissapointment, still no euphoria, just felt a bit uncoordinated. For someone who's opioid-naive, isn't 60 mg of hydrocodone supposed to be a steep dose? Or am I looking at the wrong chemical all together?

[Curio]

could be expired or could be he switched it with something else if he's in the habit of picking up other's prescription meds...

just a guess

[bnjmnwn]

The date on the bottle is June, and the code on the pill is M362- I looked that up and it corresponds to 10/660. My weight is 120 lbs by the way.

[Curio]

didn't you say they were mallies?

those usually have little in the way of euphoria for me...but for someone who is supposedly opiate naive, doesn't make sense either way unless they've degraded somehow

you're young so you should be okay with what you already took, but with 10/660's, I wouldn't go POPPING six at a time anymore.....that's 660 X 6 = a lot of apap/tylenol NOT good for your organs!!

[ZodiacKiller]

Why would your stoner friends "persecute you at length" for mentioning opioids? Don't they know that marijuana is the gateway drug and sooner or later both you and all your stoner friends will be hopelessly addicted to smack?

You mentioned being grounded....no offense, but don't you have to be at least 18 to join this forum?



ZK

[Curio]

rolling on the floor
'YOU AND YOUR stoner friends'....hopelessly addicted to SMACK...

[bnjmnwn]

Why would your stoner friends "persecute you at length" for mentioning opioids? Don't they know that marijuana is the gateway drug and sooner or later both you and all your stoner friends will be hopelessly addicted to smack?

You mentioned being grounded....no offense, but don't you have to be at least 18 to join this forum?



ZK

It's a backwards logic. My peers' views on drugs are based on who else is doing them, and if they're portrayed as cool in movies. Not that uncommon of a view.

I gave my actual birthdate and it let me register. Given the subject matter here, and that I'm a few months shy of 18, I don't see that much of an issue.

[(inaudible screams)]

bnjmnwn:

Check out the webstie idthispill.com

You can search for the imprint code on your pill and find out exactly what it is.

And yes, if you are opiate naive 60mg of hydro should floor you. In fact taking that much should take you past euphoria and put you in a "i feel like shit" mood.

[handsome rob]

I remember my early high school days and stealing some of daddy's vics. They didn't do much for me, even at around 40mg. At around the forth time doing this I really started feally the buzz but wasn't untill I found his percs that I really dug opies. Now more than ten years later I yearn for the days when 10mg oxy could get me feelin' good.

[Sitar]

It could just be that they were Mallickrodts. I've heard of people taking a handful of their Hydros and getting NOTHING from them, even though they were the real deal and fresh from the pharmacy. And on an empty stomach, too.

But the most important issue is likely that you're a pothead (and I don't mean that in a demeaning or condescending way, I'm just saying). If you are accustomed to getting totally stoned from pot on a regular basis, you may not be able to clearly detect much of an effect from Hydrocodone. Opiates like that, especially in lower doses, tend to have a MUCH more subtle effect than pot. If you are highly accustomed to the specific effects of pot, it will be hard to appreciate the gentler effects of a mild opiate.

So it's probably a combination of having not yet developed an appreciation for opiates' effects due to heavy pot use, and from getting stuck with the Mallinckrodts which are notorious for being noticeably and significantly weaker than other brands of Hydrocodone.

There ya go.

Next time, get a better brand (Vicodin name brand, Watson, etc.), and take a full dose all at once and most importantly, don't expect it to be anything like pot. Opiates have a range of effects all their own. More refined than Cannabis, in my opinion, and more euphoric.

Opiates don't change your headspace like pot does. It's more of a body high with strong euphoria and an uplift in mood. No introspection like pot; your cares and worries seem to drift off to the periphery of your consciousness.

[orangejuice]

yah kno weed was the first thing i eva tried and i hated it from day one.... and i still HATE it yeah its a strong word lol but i do. i was just destined to become an opiate addict, but anyways...you kno all the years of my using and watson hydro 10's being the first opiate i ever tried, ive never seen or heard of any of those mallies being around where i live., ive seen everyones opinions on here bout em and glad i havent run across em, anyone got a link of a pic of what they look like.??.. well i guess i could just search mallinckrodts...

[(inaudible screams)]

anyone got a link of a pic of what they look like.??


Go to idthispill.com and seach for M365

^that site is a great resource.

[bnjmnwn]

Thanks for the replies- guess I should abandon the Mallinckrodts and try something else.

[GMorris]

That's really weird, the first time I tried any opiate for recreation I was about 19 and it was - believe it or not - Codeine. A simple Tylenol 3 fucked me up but good and I was in opiate love for life. I'd been smoking good weed for 3 years at the time without much else (maybe a Valium or two here and there), but the Codeine really made me feel righteous! I guess we all have a different chemistry huh? Now I do a about 100 - 120mg Morphine every day and I still love it with a passion. Even though I can get all the pussy I want, I'd still rather have the Morphine! Fucked up? You bet, but that's just me!

[orangejuice]

well you know what the duds say at rehab, drugs were are first real love, and i stick to that, i think if i would have the choice between a 40mg meth wafer and a girl for the night id take the done... now if it was angelina jolie or someone of that stature......

[OpiateHead]

And yes, if you are opiate naive 60mg of hydro should floor you. In fact taking that much should take you past euphoria and put you in a "i feel like shit" mood.


I was about to say that that is almost lying in bed trying not to throw up everywhere limit. I take quite a bit of Norco's, but never 6 at a time. :cool:

[kdreimiller]

I forget where I read it, but I read somewhere that only about 1 out of 10 actually enjoy opiates. I take that to mean the euphoria that we all enjoy so much. I really always thought that most people would get euphoria from opies, cetainly not 100% of peeps, but much more than 10%. I dont see how you wouldn't enjoy an opie unless the nausea is too much. Shit, I never get any nausea.

Point being (to the original poster), that you might very well fall in the category of someone who just doesnt get the marked euphoria and relaxation that alot people get and fall in love with. If thats you, I consider you lucky. The yellow brick road that opiates lead you down can be a tough one.

[Sunwheel]

Isn't there some enzyme thats missing in a certain percentage of White folks that's required to feel anything from codeine? The reason I ask, I have a friend who has taken codeine and felt nothing. And then he took hydrocodone, and also felt nothing. But he really likes kratom. Could hydrocodone need that enzyme, too?

YEah, I've taken 30mg of hydrocodone, even the mollies, and gotten knocked on my ass. 60mg...I wouldn't even consider taking that much!! Maybe mollies are just incredibly inconsistent...altho you'd THINK a fucking pharma company would higher quality control...

[bodangly]

And to quote Lil Wyte "Gotta be up on your P's and Q's to even feel it man"