Know your rights, survive police encounters

[CUBErt]

Hey all, someone provided a link to this video over at the Shroomery, and I thought I'd share it with you all. Its called "Busted-A Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters." I haven't seen anyone post it here, so I thought I would. Its a video put out by the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union). There are 3 different scenarios, involving getting pulled over, confronted on the street, and cops called to the house. Each scene gets shown once through with the person getting intimidated by police and agreeing to a search, etc. Then they run through the scenario again, highlighting the mistakes people made and this time they shake off dem pigs. The acting is somewhat corny at parts ("you kids been tokin' the reefer?") but I found it to be a very cool and informative video. For those of you who may be uninformed of your right to refuse searches, etc., this video would be in your best interest (especially if you are gonna be strollin around with opiates).

Heres the links:
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA)

For Torrent Users (http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/487663/Busted_The_Citizens_Guide_to_Surviving_Police_Enco unters_VCD_mpg)

Hope this helps a few of you. Stay safe.

[blackdog]

GOD:att: :drink: :deal2: BLESS THE "ACLU":rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p :p ;) :( :o :cool: :D :confused: :) :mad: :eek: :confused- :speechles :eyebrow: :drool: :cheeky2: :moon: :drinkit: :sad-smile :vomit2: :sad-smile
AND:eek: :yin-yang: THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!!!!!

[bodangly]

I've seen this before and let me say it is goddamn informative, and knowing your rights can make all the difference in the world when dealing with the cops. Up to a point of course, because once your friends start ratting you out you can only do so much =\

[CUBErt]

Up to a point of course, because once your friends start ratting you out you can only do so much =\

Aaaaamen...

[dorje]

I once had a lawyer tell us if the police knock just ask them if they have a warrant. If they say yes just open the door leave the chain on and ask them to pass the warrant through the slightly open door.
HaHaHa
When the bust went down we tried the technique, the door burst open the dude who asked for the warrant was on the ground handcuffed before you could say ACLU and we all went to jail.
They (Supreme Court) just changed the rule about the police needing to say "It's the police" or the evidence obtained (anything in plain sight) isn;t valid. Now they can just break the door down.
And , in the end, you either have the $$ for bail or a street lawyer or it's the Public Defender and plea bargain time.
It's also true the heat will try to con you into giving up whatever small rights we have left (very few) Can we talk inside =you invited us into your home so we can use anything we see inside your home against you.

[chemboy7]

Answer questions with as few words as possible (yes sir, no sir preferable) and once he reads you your Miranda rights keep your mouth shut until you have a lawyer. I can't believe how many people keep on talking once the pigs read them their rights... once that happens he is no longer trying to make heads or tails out of what's going on, he's gathering evidence to fuck you in court with so STFU.

[blackdog]

PIG SEZ WHERE U COMING FROM?? I point my thumb to the rear of me "from that direction " i say on responce,
PIG SEZ WHERE U GOING TO?? I point my index finger the forward direction"that way" i sez in responce, you got anything iilegal in the car that i should know about? I answer back by saying....anthing illegal you should know about? i think not!! and as he hands me back my papers and tells me to stay outta trouble,i respond with...well i just did!!
peace da/dawgg
idiots on cops do the cops job for them, idiots should carry there own set of cuffs and put them on themselves too!! fools make drug addicts look like typical white trash morons.
deffinately dont want to take one of them on a bank robbery.
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da/dawgg

[CUBErt]

They (Supreme Court) just changed the rule about the police needing to say "It's the police" or the evidence obtained (anything in plain sight) isn;t valid. Now they can just break the door down.
And , in the end, you either have the $$ for bail or a street lawyer or it's the Public Defender and plea bargain time.
It's also true the heat will try to con you into giving up whatever small rights we have left (very few) Can we talk inside =you invited us into your home so we can use anything we see inside your home against you.

Yea, its sad that our rights are being slowly taken away as we sit by and watch. Still though, exercise your rights whenever you can, even if you don't have anything illegal. Exercise them just for the sake of doing so.

You can scare many officers just with the word "lawyer." Just remember to keep saying "I do NOT consent to a search without a warrant," don't answer their questions yes or no, because they will use confusing wording and/or 2 part questions so if you say yes to one, they can take it as meaning yes to the other as well. Just keep re-stating that you do not consent to a search. If they still pressure you, mention that you would prefer not to answer anymore questions without your lawyer present, and just keep asking them if you are now free to go. Often they will just keep you around asking questions until you accidentally incriminate yourself.

[shaunclo]

PIG SEZ WHERE U COMING FROM?? I point my thumb to the rear of me "from that direction " i say on responce,
PIG SEZ WHERE U GOING TO?? I point my index finger the forward direction"that way" i sez in responce, you got anything iilegal in the car that i should know about? I answer back by saying....anthing illegal you should know about? i think not!! and as he hands me back my papers and tells me to stay outta trouble,i respond with...well i just did!!


Fuck yeah da dawg, that is the greatest thing I have ever heard, funny as hell my brutha!!!

idiots on cops do the cops job for them, idiots should carry there own set of cuffs and put them on themselves too!!

Yo Da Dawg, that had me rolling dude, so fuckin true, most people just get so scared when they get pulled over that they have no idea that they actually DO have right......points for that one sucka!!

[blackdog]

yo brother shauncio, ah shit i missed tonights cops cause i was on a killer nodd.it was suppossed to be real good.oh well it'll be back on another 750 times fer the rest of my life.
anyway........i sometimes say to them (hey whatever you say/want you got the badge and the gun)
but what i really like to say and i think i have on one occasion is take away that badge and that gun and yer just a little dicked fat headed bastard who cant get laid without those items,other then that i like cops alot!!
dawgg

[shaunclo]

Talk about speaking about the devil, as I am reading this post, I am watching stand-up comedy with Mike Epps, (on HBO) and he was just talkign about and singing the theme song to cops. I think Mike Epps is fuckin hillarious, sometimes.

But if you are reading this right now, change the channel to HBO and look for Mike Epps stand up, hes pretty good.

[nick]

Three golden rules;say as little as possible,always ask for legal aid when things go bad and always be polite.The last may be hard .Bite your tongue.A moments satisfaction is not worth possibly years of grief.

[blueflutterfly]

i cannot believe how outta hand american cops are. i mean, you just don't hear and see the shit up here (can) that you do down there. obviously not all canadian cops are cool - especially the r.c.m.p (if anyone's going to fuk you it's them) and not all american cops are spawns of satan but sterio-types exist for a reason.

i remember this one cops episode (man i do love that show) where they were park'd out side a "black" neighbourhood. anyone coming out of it fitting the description of 'whitey' was pull'd over, question'd, search'd, humiliated and terrorized. this poor bastard who'd copp'd his morning fix was caught. sick, sweating, and shaking (looking at him sent chivers up my spine and made my hair stand on end) they fuck around with him like a gang of cats on some wee scared mouse, arrest him, take his car, give him the speech of "it's for your own good", take him off to jail then pat each other on the back as if they've just saved the world.

i really do not understand. most places up here as long as you're not hurting anyone your left alone...live and let live...downtown vancouver isn't the only "liberated" place - it's just the one with the most attention.

i can't imagine what it's like to live with that fear of the cops fucking you any chance they get...and what's this shit with the cars all the time? they actually take them away? like not just impounded, but not yours anymore??? somebody please enlighten me - thank ya.

[chemboy7]

i can't imagine what it's like to live with that fear of the cops fucking you any chance they get...and what's this shit with the cars all the time? they actually take them away? like not just impounded, but not yours anymore??? somebody please enlighten me - thank ya.

Oh yeah, get busted with some dope in your vehicle: it's theirs. They can also take your house and all your assets if you get caught with enough.

[blueflutterfly]

Oh yeah, get busted with some dope in your vehicle: it's theirs. They can also take your house and all your assets if you get caught with enough.

:speechles :speechles :speechles :speechles that's crazy, totally fuking crazy...that's fukin insane??? i can't even imagine...

[blackdog]

it called the forfiture laws

[matfield]

this car thing and everything sounds absolutely crazy to me too. Seems to me as if its sometimes a totaly other layer of the universe when it comes to user/police confrontation either in europe or the us.
Are there at least any laws that you can get away with the possession of low drug amounts-just for own use?
In europe or at least germany theres a huge difference between on the one hand possessing, selling, buying -all this is illegal- and on the other using. Using is legal in germany (Which actually makes no sense cause if you use you originally must have possessed it and probably bought before).
But only selling means you'll get into serious trouble when you get caught.
If someone calls the police e.g. because a junky might be too long in a public restroom he/she wont be arrested even if they find the person still with the needle in his or her arm. They`re even not allowed to touch the person untill he/she has finished.
When i was confrontated with two police officers one time they were really friendly. they knew i did h some minutes ago and found some other h in my backpack. It was not much maybe one hit and they just said ok we know you need that we wont take it away otherwise u will just have to buy some new. Just leave this place and better not come back.
Of course it wasn't always like that. Police took legal steps several times so i had trials due to possession of minor amounts of h. But i've never been to prison nor did anything REALLY bad happen. Sometimes i had to work for about 20 hours at a kindergarten or something similar and the other times i had to pay some hundred euro.
Could have been worse..

[dorje]

You don't even have to sell H to take a fall. In New York, there is a "giving, selling or distributing law:. You give someone a bag (no $) and you can face a high felony in the right situation with a wrong cop. 71/2 to 15 years but then New York use to have a Life and a day sentence. They would keep your body for a day after you died just to make sure you were not posing as dead.

[nick]

Let's face it America is the belly of the beast for addicts.Then again you could be in Singapore or Burma.In the UK there are cases of addicts committing crime just to get busted and into treatment.

[blackdog]

this car thing and everything sounds absolutely crazy to me too. Seems to me as if its sometimes a totaly other layer of the universe when it comes to user/police confrontation either in europe or the us.
Are there at least any laws that you can get away with the possession of low drug amounts-just for own use?
In europe or at least germany theres a huge difference between on the one hand possessing, selling, buying -all this is illegal- and on the other using. Using is legal in germany (Which actually makes no sense cause if you use you originally must have possessed it and probably bought before).
But only selling means you'll get into serious trouble when you get caught.
If someone calls the police e.g. because a junky might be too long in a public restroom he/she wont be arrested even if they find the person still with the needle in his or her arm. They`re even not allowed to touch the person untill he/she has finished.
When i was confrontated with two police officers one time they were really friendly. they knew i did h some minutes ago and found some other h in my backpack. It was not much maybe one hit and they just said ok we know you need that we wont take it away otherwise u will just have to buy some new. Just leave this place and better not come back.
Of course it wasn't always like that.
Could have been worse..
hi matfield,would it be possible for us to do a junkie exchange?sounds koo-koo well anyway it started on our west coast everything starts in California then eventually makes it's way to east coast new york city then the distance between.I'm talking bout fads and styles,music and such.finally medical marijuana has arrived where? I'm not sure.anyone? but your post brings to mind one of the few times i was clipped by the bobbies(busted by the cops) and they knew what i was doing ,i knew what i was doing and so every body had to just grin and bear it and get thru another day,however if you don't bust balls and not make it hard on them pig bastards well this one dt(detective)narco had me and saw how sick i was and realized how worse it was going to get and so out of a half dozen he slipped 2 bags back to me took off one hand cuff and he didn't have to tell me to twice, hurry up and crack em open and breath deep.just experiencing that moment of decency,of humanity made me see things in an all together different light and re-instilled my faith in human beings.well with that said just reading your storie made me wish more people were realistic in there beliefs and actions with the day to day.hell what i would give to be treated the way you described (realistically) by me its just a matter of they got the badges and the guns and there the supposed good guys and we're the oh so bad guys .
what a shame! thanx fer uplift.
da/dawgg:cool:

[SmackTalkw/RushLimbo]

I think a big difference in treatment of drug users in US and other countries might stem from the second ammendment. Cops don't know if we have guns and want to rattatatat. The 2nd ammendment IMO is kinda nuts. I heard a good idea that they should do like in the days of the wild and just restrict guns within city limits. This would make everyone safer. I know that europe does have gun violence, but it is very minimal compared to ours. Any correlation with the 2nd ammedment?

[WarmCyanide]

all this talk is giving me an uncomfortable stirring feeling. I think I'm going to go clean out my car:(