The OFFICIAL "Doin' time" thread.

[StackBundles]

I figured that I would jump this shit off. Feel free to contribute, just don't lie. Small embellishments are probably unavoidable and will be forgiven. I do not feel like hacking out a huge narrative so I will drop little stories or factoids or other shit... I will leave out small little identifying details because ANYONE that knows me and happens to stumble across this shit, will know exactly who I am...

So...

I got slammed with a few 3 to 10's for an assortment of crimes in my late teens. I had done a couple of years on GreenOaks which is a NOTORIOUS youth facility in MI. so I wasn't too shook when the judge handed me my time. I was actually somewhat cocky about it because, by all accounts, Green Oaks Academy is as GRIMEY as it gets, including any M.D.O.C facility...

So... I might as well drop some GREEN OAKS lore since some CRAZY ass shit happened while I was there for almost 18 months... Imagine a bunch of basically feral, wild ass, mentally deranged kids crammed into a bunch of depressing, run down, units being supervised by under qualified, sadistic staff who really don't give a fuck.

Green Oaks is where MI sends it's worst youthful offender. Rapists, killers, violent sex offenders... In general, psychopathic offenders who all were supposed to get along and participate in treatment. YEAH, RIGHT... Some of the shit from our life stories would make people cringe... I've heard some of the saddest, sickest, and most sadistic things during those groups, especially people who were victims of sexual abuse.

I had one group member who had been sexually abused by his father through-out his life. He got caught sexually abusing the neighbor kid outside in broad daylight. He used to self mutilate his asshole with pencils and deodorant caps. His ass was so fucked up that he would bleed profusely and have to wear depends. He could not be trusted to sleep unsupervised so he had a cot in the middle of the dorm. It was the groups responsibility to monitor his behavior, so people had to check his ass on occasion.

This was the EARLY 90's also so EVERYBODY was gangbangin'... Assaults and stabbings were a weekly if not daily norm. Our facility was full of Latin Count5, Latin Kings, Detroit Kings, ViceLord5, Spanish Cobras, Young Guns, Street Boys, Square Boys and a host of other little qliques and crews. School and meal times where controlled chaos at best and mayhem at worst. My clique were under the People Nation... Insane Mafia Count5. We repped the 5 pointed star and were at war with anyone on the opposite team. If you were were "Rotating" and didn't handle your business, your own boys handles you. You couldn't be affiliated in the streets and get locked up and deny membership 'cause people were mad informed. I have Chicago ties to the L.C.N. and membership based out of S.W. Detroit so I had no choice but to bang, which, I would not have chose otherwise. I was wild as fuck back then and anyone could get it. I didn't give a fuck.

The CRAZIEST shit that I have ever seen or semi-witnessed in my life happened on the detention/lockdown/solitary wing in G.O. A soon to be NOTORIOUS inmate dug a hole through the wall in his cell to another younger inmates cell, held him hostage and REPEATEDLY RAPED him for 12 hours while the State Police had to figure out how to free the young kid from his psychopathic captor. After this, they moved the Perpetrator to another cell, where he bit his finger off and wrote shit on the walls with the bitten of chunk, or maybe the attached part... I dunno' about that...

The State decided to charge this kid as an adult for the hostage/rape so they moved him to the county jail, where he murdered an adult inmate in a holding tank with a pencil, which he claimed to have done because he found out that the dude in his cell was a sex offender... How's that for some fucked up logic?? Anyway... Dude was so savage that The Detroit Free Press did a front page piece on him as the most dangerous juvenile in The State. I will try to provide links to the article if I can find them...

Okay.

On to the NEXT. SO, from the county, they transport you to Quarantine, where they classify you and determine what prison you need to go to... Back when I went to the joint, they had a separate Quarantine for the Under 21 set, which was Riverside Correctional... 23 hour lock down, No bathrooms in your cells, they gave you one of those hospital pee jugs that you had to empty in the bathroom when they break your doors. Since people were just coming down, this is where people tried to assert their bad assedness. More of the same gang banging and shit... early to mid-90's and, OF COURSE I ran into a few of my People5 from the street, homies and enemies alike. Stepping into the bathroom and getting banged on or banging on someone that was caught slipping was the norm. I got my ass stomped out and did some stomping. Nothing too brutal, and in hind sight, was almost fun, BUT shit could have turned out bad.

We could not get smokes in the store so the G.P. inmates who resided above us would fish us "birds" of tobacco, which was about an ounce of loose tobacco and a pack of papers. We smoked good, and ate okay. We could only spend 15 on commissary but the food there wasn't too bad...

The scariest time in Quarantine for me was when our HIV results came back. I was shooting dope on occasion before I went down, safely, but I was fucking hood rats raw dog stylee, so that shit FREAKED me out. I came back clean, thank god, but that was some shit that I sweated out for a while.

I got classed to a level four because of a prior crime, so I was sent to Michigan Reformatory, which was one of the most NOTORIOUS prisons in MI, next to Jackson, and was deemed a Gladiator School due to it's main population of inmates under 25. Single man cells, bars, and tiers. Right from the movies. Inmates could still have their own clothing and the store was still operated with TOKENS so there was a cash like economy, which led to the prison being a lot more crazy then it probably is nowadays.

I attached a small picture of R.M.I. or M.R. as it is known. Not a good one but it's all I could find...

The picture does not show the two 5 story attached wings known as I and J block where a majority of the inmates who resided there were housed...

ALSO... Anyone who want's to GOOGLE Green Oaks, Green Oaks is the MAXIMUM SECURITY portion of the MAXEY BOYS TRAINING CENTER.

[nick]

I've been very,very lucky when it comes to jail.Never been sentenced to jail time.Spent about a month in total in Armley jail in Leeds on remand.Armley is a large Victorian city jail and it hasn't been cleaned in decades.It's like perma night in there because the windows are black with grime.The food's inedible and the library is so bad it's funny.

I'll never forget looking at the other;freaks,fruit loops and other out and out fuckwits in my induction group and thinking "I don't belong here" and then realising they were all thinking the same thing.Sadly I was in the right place.

Thankfully,I went to public(boarding) school which isn't all that different from jail.So,it wasn't that much of a shock.

Last time I got out it was a bright spring morning and I walked home in the sun.I promised my self I was going never going back and would change me life.

[itchintofix]

Haven't been inside for 10 years now but did a couple of 18-24 month sentences back in the day, don't miss it one bit but at the time it was like a rest from the rigmarole of an opiate habit.

Our jails aren't as rough as the u.s ones but shit can still happen ya know? Seen some nasty sights but going to see a guy I knew in his cell and finding him hanging dead was the most fucked up...seeing somone getting stabbed in the heart right outside my cell window over a bag of gear was the other bad incident otherwise it was just minor shit.

[jimmyfingers]

I have spent a short amount of time in a few county jails including Essex County (Newark) which I consider the worst. Monroe County in PA was the best and was probably built around 7-8 year ago. On the street, it was often referred to as Hotel Monroe. And, a few others that fall in the middle of the spectrum.

In the worst conditions, I was given an "elementary school gym mat" and tiny ass wool blanket with no pillow. Due to overcrowding, I had to throw it on the middle of the dirty insect infested floor. It was so packed, it looked like sleeping quarters for Chinese Sweat shop workers. The mat had almost no padding since previous inmates had taken chunks of 'foam' out to make pillows that I was pretty much sleeping on a hard floor. I believe this jail had a recent lawsuit since they were supposed to give out 'boats' that kept you a few feet off the floor.

The fights I saw were pretty much fabricated where you had 2 guys that were well respected badasses and all their mates would get them all pumped up by saying the other guy was a snitch and wanted spread shit on their mat. Fights that were a result of boredom and testosterone.

One place, I was not allowed to wear my boxers of socks that I was picked up in since they were colored and not white. On Thursdays, they came around to wash the jumpsuits. I told the guards that I had nothing on underneath and they still insisted I take off my jumpsuit. I ended up stripping down to my birthday suit and they got very pissed and stuck me in a segregation unit where I was given some new white boxers and socks, but not before they sent a bill to my house for these items. The seg unit provided me my own personal cell and was extremely clean. I enjoyed my 24 hour stay in there and would not have minded spending my whole stay in there.

Every place was pretty much the standard of staying of all night playing monopoly/cards, and then sleeping during the day. At the worst place, we had about 70 people on a pod that was built for 18. 9 seperate 2 man cells on each floor. They would keep these cells locked from 10-4 in the morning and 6-10 guys would cram in each cell to play monopoly all night.

You have your standard problems in each place where some loon would flood his cell by stopping up to shit/piss filled toilet and keep on flushing it.

I only saw rape/sex in one place and it was being done by the Mexicans who were passing around some 16 year old.

No earth shadowing stories

[Duckfeet]

Jail's a lot like war, in my experience, where one *so* wants to exagerate...maybe it's a 'guy' thing, I don't know...main thing I noticed from the get go everywhere I've been locked up is how we all claim to be ferocious thuggish armed robbing psychopaths...nobody wanted to be like, a 'librarian' or anything...haha...

Shortly after I got out of Vietnam in 1972 I met a girl on a train, and she was from Gainesville FL so I went there, and got first Harley, first shot of dope, and first real 'grown up' girlfriend...and first serious jail shit...it seemed kind of like part of being a biker, where periodically you'd go to jail for silly shit, I can't even remember all the times, but it was never more than one night...usually barroom related bullshit...

But eventually, one night some bad shit happened, and I got dinged up pretty bad by a guy with a brick and a few days later he got shot, supposedly by me, and a whole lot of crazy shit happened, and I was arrested for aggravated battery, would change charge to murder when this ace croaked, but he didn't die...thought I was going to electric chair--if he died--but he didn't he limped until he died tho, and my mom mortgaged her house, and I got a lawyer, and beat it...then went back to Cali...

I got all strung out on heroin out here, started 'that' kind of jail time up in Orange County...more heavy, more relentless, more inevitable the outcome, which was prison finally...jail wasn't all that bad since I always knew people from the streets, and was on the felony tank where people were at least more 'serious' and slightly less bullshit happened...I finally bowed to reality and copped a plea for prison time just to get out of county, and spent a couple years doing that...but my south american upbringing came in so handy since I speak spanish like english, and also since I learned to type good, as I took correspondence course from U.S., and typing is a handy trade in prison...you got more 'choices' and can get some juice...

...on and on: it's what you make of it...I'm solitary by nature, but I'm also sociable, and knew enough to at least 'act' like a tough guy and every once in a while I guess I'd be 'stand-up' if I had to be...you can't be a biker, or a convict, or a soldier, or any fucking male dominated thing without periodically having to act like you have some sand...or you can just punk out early and be somebody else's bitch, but I never had to go that route...

County Jail is very territorial, often much worse and more violent than prison...prison has some rules of conduct...so does jail, but they are harsher: strength rules...but knowing how to play spades, dominoes, and not to back down when someone is giving you shit also helps...but young, nice, middle class white boys are seen as prey...don't be that. Whipe the smile off your face and don't give away shit...there are worse things than beatings...or just don't do the crime if you can't do the time....

Food is better in southern jails, 'generally...and big city jails are usually the worst: L.A., Chicago....

[devilsdrug]

i too know the challleges of prison and co. jails. what with 17 felonies its a wonder im sittin here, ive prolly told this story on here somewhere, my very worst experience was alemeda co jail(think oakland) kickin a horrible habit, was put in with the nutters (think crackheads and shermnuts(pcp smokers)) any way come zoozoo day i was hit from behind and stomped and then spent a week in a hospitol, punctered lung and all, it ended fine i thought i kept most of my goodies had iv painkillers at will and then got 8 codeines a day for a month , this kind of shit was a daily occurence in the stonehouse where i heard the cops kill at least 3 and saw 5 kill themselves , ah the memories

[SHELLEY]

i'm happy to say that i've never seen the inside of a prison, unless you count the visiting room
i've done many short bursts in county, from 2 hours to my longest stretch of 41 days
all i know about prison i know from friends and acquantances who have done time

[losangeleslifer]

Never had to do any state time, beat a few cases thank god. But HAve had planty of county time to last. Never had the money or family to bail out cept for my first case, which was a god send cause it lasted a year of court.

You name it, I saw it. The worst was watching a pencil pierce an eyeball. The sound, the blood and "ooze" was a bit much and I heaved a couple of chunks after seeing that.

The worst is watching the weak succomb to the strong. I have a half of a heart and manty times felt the need to go out of my way tohelp some poor bastard without it going noticed.

I rode in the Sureno car of course and was given several tasks to perform when I was was younger, but when I hit 35 and was sick (brown jump clothing) I was not called on to perform anymore. Some juice was lost in the process however, but nothing major.

I just basically ket to myself, my conversation limited, and a seroius look a all times. I have been told that I walk around with a permanent frown. I dont care, it keeps folks at bay and nobody asks me shit or for shit on the street or anywhere for that matter.

Again, to many stupid war stories to tell and I dont feel like rehashing that shit rite now.

I make sure to keep my nose clean as possible and stay out of the system.

[OrangeLude]

very fortunate to have never seen a possession or distribution charge...many many moons ago - I was young & desperate (so I thought)- hit a few mailboxes - found the credit cards I was looking for and went on a shopping spree - pick up for being a pig about it - my Dad left in the House of Detention for the weekend in the hope of 'time' teaching me a lesson.

Not sure what the lesson I learned was or was supposed to be - I was fortunate that in the next 35 years I have only been inside a prison to bring in a 12 step meeting.

[tui]

very fortunate to have never seen a possession or distribution charge...many many moons ago - I was young & desperate (so I thought)- hit a few mailboxes - found the credit cards I was looking for and went on a shopping spree - pick up for being a pig about it - my Dad left in the House of Detention for the weekend in the hope of 'time' teaching me a lesson.

Not sure what the lesson I learned was or was supposed to be - I was fortunate that in the next 35 years I have only been inside a prison to bring in a 12 step meeting.


Some parents did that to their kid here. He'd taken their car without asking, so they called the cops and reported it stolen. They thought it would teach him a lesson. The kid was only 18. He got picked up and thrown in the back of a wagon with another prisoner. The other guy was a nut, and he was strangled before he even made it to the station.

[harmonik]

Some parents did that to their kid here. He'd taken their car without asking, so they called the cops and reported it stolen. They thought it would teach him a lesson. The kid was only 18. He got picked up and thrown in the back of a wagon with another prisoner. The other guy was a nut, and he was strangled before he even made it to the station.
jesus christ! I bet that changed the parents opinion on 'tough love' pretty quickly..

quite sad...

[jimmyfingers]

My parents did that to me the first time I was in trouble. I believe in tough love myself, but I feel this will do more bad than good

[Dolofinell]

Im from MI as well 12 yrs ago did 11 months Kent county jail waiting for court bullshit, 11 damn months. Rode to quarantine (Jackson), Went to MTU level II then Kinross in the UP.
24mths. total.
Have'nt had a speeding ticket since, knockin on wood. Taught me somethin about consequences

[TigerFan]

I have found that state run mental health hospitals to be some of the most awful institutions. I have never been to prison, but wondered if someone has ever been in a state psyche unit as well as prison and could relate the two.

Bundles,
From Michigan originally myself and have no experience as an adult offender but some when I was younger and your description of parts of Maxey seemed almost common around the system (with the exception of rape). Most everyone came from a house with no mother or father and had floated around different programs for years. They seemed to bounce in and out of psyche hospitals and actual corrections/detention a lot too. I remember the kids who had been to Maxey were like a revered group haha. Kind of like how Todd is so cool on Beavis and Butthead.

Sad shit, really.

[SHELLEY]

state run mental hospitals, i've been in
as well as lockdown all girls baptist boarding school for juvenile offenders (18 months)
there are certain things that i just will not fucking eat and words i won't use, because of that place

[OrangeLude]

Some parents did that to their kid here. He'd taken their car without asking, so they called the cops and reported it stolen. They thought it would teach him a lesson. The kid was only 18. He got picked up and thrown in the back of a wagon with another prisoner. The other guy was a nut, and he was strangled before he even made it to the station.


That is a nightmare result - I know in the late 60's & early 70's the parents of post wwII had no idea what to make of our clothes, long hair, music invasion, drug & love cultures....my Dad's decision to leave me in a cell for a weekend was with what he thought the best intention - it probably came closer to killing my Mom than me. I remember sleeping off a drug haze for 2.5 days with nothing but a wood bench. sink, toilet & my down vest as a pillow. It was like walking into the wrong department at the store - I was supposed to be in electronics & here I wake up in lawn furniture?

[norseman]

Does the drunk tank count? Otherwise I have been quite lucky. Had a good lawyer too.

Plus I think Canada's prisons would sound like a vacation to some of these stories.

[Oxy-Jen]

I have never been to prison myself, but have been in county jail over night and that was enough for me. Some people on here know that my man is in prison. He tells me a lot of stories and I hate that he has to be in a place like that with a little less than 6 more years to go.
I can say that when you go to visit they make you feel like the one that is doing time.

[limitless_euphoria]

There were two different times I was actually put "behind bars" and a couple of "close calls" where I could've been busted if I didn't luck out. It was a holding cell I was locked up in for both cases and not an actual prison. I just spent the better part of a night; no bail, just ROR with a promise to appear in the first and the second. Both cases ended up getting squashed but not without me spending a good chunk of money on a lawyer for #1.

#1: The first incident was for a DWI. I had taken a couple of valium then subsequently gotten schnockered on a bunch of hard liquor; me and lots of hard liquor don't go so well together. I blacked out and the next thing I know I'm getting a mug shot taken. I must have looked excruciatingly unphotogenic for the camera as I remember my face was beat red from being fucked up, I was sweating profusely and I had previously had my hair in a pony tail that night (back in my long hair days) but the hair tie had broken so my hair was all over the fucking place. What's more, I was wearing a ratty-ass vulgar T-shirt. This is why I could never run for a political office. I would SO GET SMEARED once they dug that gem-of-a-photo up.

I got a renowned DWI lawyer at a high price. He helped me beat the case on a technicality. I got to go to some ten-week drug and alcohol classes conducted by a social worker and do this stupid-ass workbook full of exercises. I still remember one of the questions was "Can you use marijuana or other drugs responsibly?"

It was a trick question, so said the book, "no, illegal drugs can never be used responsibly."

I said bull shit to my classmates when the social worker was out of the room and most agreed; not everyone's an addict and moderation is possible but WHAT ELSE is the BOOK going to SAY!! :)

#2: The next one was almost a year later for drunken disturbance and breach of peace (I think those were the charges they named at the time) because I got into a fight with some Puerto Rican dude talking shit in "his hood" while I was trying to cop.

I think we both ended up lying to the cops and we both got hauled off in separate cop cars. Because neither of us got really hurt ultimately the charges were not pursued by the DA. The court case docket was so backed up they just couldn't be bothered I suppose. I'd been drinking and doping and probably just come off a coke binge if I recall so I was mouthy! Stupid mistake.

My wife (then girlfriend) came and sprang me. It was rather embarrassing! Oh yeah, I forgot, I had a coke and/or heroin straw in my wallet but they never thought to open it up and go through it because I had one of those see-through bill folds with the ID pocket in the middle. They just wanted to know who I was. My guardian angel was looking out man!

Other than that, there were so many times I was so damn sloppy and could've gotten rolled, mugged, beaten, stabbed, shot or busted by the cops when I was in desperate mode for dope but I somehow, in all my time, got lucky and skirted disaster. Again, thanks guardian angel!

Guess those stories are a mere flash in the pan compared to some of the other shit you guys have endured. But, I guess I cannot honestly say I haven't been arrested and taken to the PO-lice station and put in jail...albeit for a very, very short time compared to doing a full bid. Again, I was very fortunate.

[Poppylvr]

Very very lucky here. Got popped for 34 second degree felonies - 12 years ago now, wow, time flies!
I had been stealing morphine and whatever other narcotics I could get my hands on from the goody box at the hospital. When my attorney told me "they have you for 34 felonies for just 3 days worth of theft" I was horrified. Did not know that each single pill, each vial of morphine was a separate charge.
Spent 8 hours total in county jail. Long enough to make an impression on me, short enough so I haven't REALLY been in jail - I stayed in my own clothes the whole time. The female holding cell was right by the entrance so this girl who was in arraignment court with me and I watched the parade of folks coming through the door and it kept our minds off our troubles. I had plenty of time to contemplate what's a nice girl like me doing in a place like this?
I was very very fortunate to have a kick ass lawyer who in a plea deal had me "confess" to 7 counts of 2cd degree "making a false narcotic report". I was allowed to plead guilty to one, so that's all that was on my record. At sentencing the judge scared the shit out of me by saying "I hear by sentence you to not less than one year nor more than 15 years in the X state prison". I looked at my lawyer like WTF??? and the judge went on to say "suspended for 3 years probation". Nearly wet myself over that, I'll tell you what!
By cleaning up my act, I was able to get my record expunged last year, so I am no longer a dangerous felon. My reward for expungement was to go get my concealed carry permit. Every time I look at that little card I am grateful for my freedom

[gameface]

I have never been to prison. I have done close to 10 stints in City/County Jail(s) in WA and TX, and here are the more interesting ones in chronological order, to the best of my recollection.

1. Owed Skagit County Jail in WA state (3) days for a reckless driving charge. Me and a buddy used a state highway during a busy tourist season as our personal Gran Tourismo Track. Had something like 42 911 calls about us. So I go to court w/ my lawyer and get 5 days. I do 2 days work crew, and then blow off the rest of the days as I had some important business shit happening on day 3. About 6 months later my warehouse gets some shit stolen from outside of it and my business partner calls the cops. After we make our statements about what was missing the cop tells me "MR C, we have a 3 day commit warrant for a reckless driving charge" This cop was my previous neighbor, and was super cool. He let my girl come get all my shit, and made sure I went to the work release dorm with a TV, and no bars. I was in the very early stages of opi addiction, and didnt realise until later I was in light w/d those 3 days in jail. All in all not a bad experience. I got a visit the second day, and read alot. No drama what so ever.

2. Take 5-10mgs of ativan, and go out to drink and play pool for the night with a friend. On the way home I am getting on the highway. Now in TX, they have "loops" which are highways that encircle the city (Abilene). As I am about the enter the freeway, I black out and hit a concrete pillar that holds up part of the overpass. I break a few ribs, and get banged up pretty good. My buddy in the pass seat gets smacked by the air bag, and bounces the fuck outta there bc he was on parole from Virginia. I pass out again, and wake up at the Taylor county jail. I say " I know I get a mat, and wheres my cell". I wake up being released around 9am to ZERO charges, and score a ride from some people in the parking lot. I immediately set out for some major pain relief.

3. MY BIG STRETCH- may 2007- On a 2 day benzo/ freebase run going to score more benzos. I must have slightly crossed into the lane next to me on Interstate 5 (4 lanes same direction) before I pull into this gas station to meet my buddy. Now I knew I had a 90 day felony commit warrant in WA state, which is why I was in TX previous to this. State Patrol pulls into the gas station and I'm like fuck I aint done nothing wrong, he cant be here for me. Well he was. After all the usual BS, I end up in "A" Pod of Skagit County Jail. 21 hour lockdown. 13 cells spanning 2 stories with 2 beds/ cell. At one point we had at least one person on every floor, and sometimes 2. Food sucked at first but u learn to accept it. I had peeps on the outside loading up commissary to the tune of $100/ week (the max) so I had the occasional joint, a cig most every day, and enough serequel to sleep for my entire stay, save for the first week, which sucked ass. Luckily I did a quick bupe taper right before this, so I wasnt too sick. I knew a BUNCH of kids from the streets/ game and wasnt all junkyfied so the mexicans respected me, as I know spanish quite well.

About 45 days in, there is some tension in the pod between the whites and the Surenos (they split the pods up in regard to Surenos/ Nortenos) The shot caller for the Surenos was "Pelon" who was extradited up from LA on an Attempted murder Beef. He got into it with this Meth cook from out in the sticks who was also going back to prison over the Fucking TV. TV got smashed, and a very gnarly fight ensued. These guys were throwing straight knock-out haymakers, and each landed quite a few. Meth Cook got his ear drum busted, it was oozing nasty orange shit. CO's rush in, and gas the combatants and attempt to lock the rest of down. No-one else in the pod was really looking at hard time so there was no riot, we just kinda sauntered back to our cells. Now I was one of the white guys watching TV when a Sureno came and changed it. I knew it was nothing personal against ME, so I kinda wanted to try to squash it, bc I actually was closer with Pelon than the Meth cook, but u just dont do that shit in jail. Things have to work themselves out. Most everyone in the pod, even the white guys signed statements saying the Meth Cooked started it. I didnt put my name on shit. A few days later my request I had put in for work detail came through. Then it was off to no lock-down, TV all day, and washing buses outside the jail for me.


There are about 4 more times where ive done between 5-20 days in county, and it was your standard sick as fuck jail detox. I managed two days of subs, and about 2 grams of tar on separate stints which was kinda cool. Oh yeah and I "hid"(palmed) about a gram of tar in my hands, whilst cuffed, and then was able to half as swallow it and made it through 20 min of cop talk with it just chillin in the back of my throat.

Nice thread idea Bundy

[Wilshire]

Anyone know how ZodiacKiller is doing?? I wish him the best of luck. Enjoy reading these stories. I haven't been to jail in my life, but I definitely have friends that have been in trouble with the law.

[betmylife]

this thread makes me wanna crush up some cup-o-noodles and some hot cheetos and mix em together, then eat it on a tortilla wrap with nasty nacho cheese.......

[opi8]

this thread makes me wanna crush up some cup-o-noodles and some hot cheetos and mix em together, then eat it on a tortilla wrap with nasty nacho cheese.......

haha "batching" was the only thing that I looked forward to in jail. Every friday when we'd get our commissary we'd all throw in chili, ramen noodles, cheese, and bbq corn chips and batch it up.

[Poppylvr]

Anyone know how ZodiacKiller is doing?? I wish him the best of luck. Enjoy reading these stories. I haven't been to jail in my life, but I definitely have friends that have been in trouble with the law.
Wilshire, ZK is having a rough time right now - his wife filed for divorce. However, if my count is right, he has 89 days left in his sentence. In his morning email today he's in a good mood today for the first time in weeks, and reports that it is blizzarding where he is, so he may be out on snow patrol this afternoon. He is in a Federal Prison Camp, and he is doing well other than his heartbreak over the end of his marriage. Thanks for asking!

[TigerFan]

Wilshire, ZK is having a rough time right now - his wife filed for divorce. However, if my count is right, he has 89 days left in his sentence. In his morning email today he's in a good mood today for the first time in weeks, and reports that it is blizzarding where he is, so he may be out on snow patrol this afternoon. He is in a Federal Prison Camp, and he is doing well other than his heartbreak over the end of his marriage. Thanks for asking!

damn, that's awful...

[seven10kids]

haha "batching" was the only thing that I looked forward to in jail. Every friday when we'd get our commissary we'd all throw in chili, ramen noodles, cheese, and bbq corn chips and batch it up.
is that illegal in your guys' jails too? Down here you cant make or share anything. Kinda sucks, if you are going to thow something off your food tray away and someone hit you up for it you are kinda in a bind. I always shot it to them and said fuck it, but if you got caught it was a mark on your file, 3 marks and you go to solatary. I got lucky i got 4 marks but i got released (after a month) and it was all good, no solatary luckily.

[havok]

is that illegal in your guys' jails too? Down here you cant make or share anything. Kinda sucks, if you are going to thow something off your food tray away and someone hit you up for it you are kinda in a bind. I always shot it to them and said fuck it, but if you got caught it was a mark on your file, 3 marks and you go to solatary. I got lucky i got 4 marks but i got released (after a month) and it was all good, no solatary luckily.

where the fuck is that? that's pretty ridiculous

[Bartholomew]

is that illegal in your guys' jails too? Down here you cant make or share anything. Kinda sucks, if you are going to thow something off your food tray away and someone hit you up for it you are kinda in a bind. I always shot it to them and said fuck it, but if you got caught it was a mark on your file, 3 marks and you go to solatary. I got lucky i got 4 marks but i got released (after a month) and it was all good, no solatary luckily.


That's how it is in Milwaukee county. Can't make nothin, can't share nothin. Of course I was kickin pretty hard when I was in there, so there was no way I was eating anything. I gave everything i got to my celly and a few friends that were locked up. Never got caught giving food away, but the CO would make a point of telling people twice a day that they couldn't share or give away anything.

[SeVeN]

Wow Fun stories!!!

I've never done time really. Mostly just lock ups and bail outs with 2 exceptions.

First was 18 got a felony possesion with intent. Bailed out 3 years felony probation

Second was disordorly conduct on my 21'st birthday the cop looked at my license as he put me in the back of the wagon and says " hey! Happy Birthday" lol thanks dick. I was lucky he didn't charge me with the 10 xanax he found on me----he technically helped me out

A DUI- which the plea bargain was to do 10 days in jail. I got out at 4AM on easter sunday. Ill always remember that.

My latest was getting arrested with half a pill on me. Spent a little over a week and the charges got DROPPED bamn!! I walked over 30 miles that day!!! I had to sign a tresspassing waver saying if I didnt have a ride at the jail right then, then I had to walk.

I almost felt my chest explode and almost passed out in the EXTREME heat, but fuck it, I just beat the damn felony so I could have danced the whole 30 miles walking home. Great feeling.

Im leaving one out but its slipping my mind right now.

Oh yeh. As far as food. Fuck!!! I lost over 15 lbs in a week seriously. The day I got released was the day I was finally goig to get my food from the comm. Oh and a judge from the jail is married to the lady who owns the comm.

Its a PRIVATE jail!!! Which should be illegal as FUCK and the people involved should all be jailed.
Fucking Privatized Prisons!!!! I mean Good God man!

[opi8]

is that illegal in your guys' jails too? Down here you cant make or share anything. Kinda sucks, if you are going to thow something off your food tray away and someone hit you up for it you are kinda in a bind. I always shot it to them and said fuck it, but if you got caught it was a mark on your file, 3 marks and you go to solatary. I got lucky i got 4 marks but i got released (after a month) and it was all good, no solatary luckily.

Nah we could share food off our trays and we were allowed to make food. Besides reading pretty much all I did was cook food hah. If you couldn't make anything what could you order for commissary?

[Import]

Haha, my only "jail-like" experience was when I was in 9th grade, and got caught shoplifting during a period when I was supposed to be in school.

Cops took me to the station and threw me in a holding cell. Apparently, someone who was there before decided that they weren't in the right place, and started bashing their head into the wall. Bloody hairprints and little bits of unidentified "matter" were all that remained.

This was enough to scare me off jails, and ever since I've always run from the cops (bad idea but hey, its worked for me on countless occasions). Always enjoy a good jailhouse story though...

[Billy the kid]

My only time in jail was a few days in Cook County. That was pretty crazy but I hear Milwaukee county is 10x worse. A real fucking hell hole.

[losangeleslifer]

is that illegal in your guys' jails too? Down here you cant make or share anything. Kinda sucks, if you are going to thow something off your food tray away and someone hit you up for it you are kinda in a bind. I always shot it to them and said fuck it, but if you got caught it was a mark on your file, 3 marks and you go to solatary. I got lucky i got 4 marks but i got released (after a month) and it was all good, no solatary luckily.

Where are you refffering to? OC Cj? They have no commisary? In LA County if there was no commisary, the place would be in flames.

Shit every woulld pitchin on a "sread" ramen noodles, porkrinds, tapatio hot sauce, slices of beef stick (think of slim jim) or those fat beef sticks that are ont he counter at the liquor store. This kind of food was the worst for me, because aal that shit is LOADED wih salt. I ate the sit anyho, I was hungry.

The cops could toss your food if it was provided by them. If you bought it, they couldnt touch it. ( they threw personal shit away daily though).

[Thanat0s]

honestly,
after the first couple days locked up,
once i accepted i wasnt getting out anytime soon
i always kinda enjoyed the reprieve from the daily grind street shit...

spent at most 40 some days in SF county
then extradited to SantaCruz Co for a few...

AMAZED that once i knew i wasnt gonna score, and all i had to do was sit and read, and eat
w/d even from massive habits passed easily.

my last time in cali was the long stretch,
and i didnt sleep the first five days,
till a friend from the street was in my arraignment holding tank and gave me a bit of sub.
old black dude in my pod gave me 30mg morph a few times
cause he knew me from the crack block in the TL,

then the deputies noticed i couldnt walk and looked like death,
made me show them my femoral abscess and sent to the jail hosp...

the doc there knew i was an addict, i told him as much,
he was quite sympathetic and put me on 4 10mg hydro a day for the remained of my stay,
got sent to SF general to get abcess lanced where the docs let me pick a pain med.

upon returning same jailhouse doc upped me to 4 10mg percs a day,
transfer to SC Co and they ripped my oxy away and gave me fucki ng TRAMADOL...
only in SC two days, but got out with basically no habit left to speak of.

love commissary, love the books...

sometimes i wouldnt mind being back,
getting huge delight from simple pleasures of ramen noodles
and a game of gin...

violence in SF co was nil,
but SC Co was pretty rough...

did see a guy hang himself in SF,
but only saw fights in SC.

[Import]

^^I've heard about how bad SC county lockup is before (both IRL as well as on this site). Always surprised me how much worse it apparently is than many lockups in "big city" areas.

[Thanat0s]

^^I've heard about how bad SC county lockup is before (both IRL as well as on this site). Always surprised me how much worse it apparently is than many lockups in "big city" areas.

only thing SC has going for it is the food...

not too bad and lots of,
stark contrast to SF Co,
badbadbad,
and the portions were so SMALL!

[Joydivider]

badbadbad,
and the portions were so SMALL!
Thank you, Shecky. :D

[upstate_007]

love commissary, love the books...


Amen.

Nothing like the simple pleasure of a bag of Jolly Ranchers.

And having the time to sit and read a bunch instead of running all the time was nice sometimes. A few months break here and there was not so bad. During the winter it was a nice break from being homeless in the Northeast.

One jail I was in had a pool table on the block. I shit you not. Circuit training machines, outdoor covered smoking area with one of those propane heating towers, big TV's and views of some really pretty scenery. I never knew jail could be so comfortable.

[seven10kids]

I just ment you werent allowed to share. YOU can get commessary but you cant share it or throw down with other people and make stuff.

[havok]

Where are you refffering to? OC Cj? They have no commisary? In LA County if there was no commisary, the place would be in flames.


No he definitely isn't referring to OC jail. I have done time in orange county, los angeles, santa barbara, and san luis obispo county jails, not to mention several prisons. San Luis Obispo co. was by far the nicest jail I have ever been in/heard of. Very clean, good food, satelite tv, dvd movies, two man cells with day room open all day, lots of drugs. I was in there for about 6 months and pretty much smoked weed and cigarettes the whole time. Plus the jail doctor there was really cool. I got him to prescribe me Tylenol 3s (codeine) and trazadone for most of my time there even though I don't get any scripts on the street.

Overall prison is a lot better than jail. Better program, better food (usually), and people know how to do to time versus county where there is usually always somehow freaking out about having to spend a week in jail.




Its a PRIVATE jail!!! Which should be illegal as FUCK and the people involved should all be jailed.
Fucking Privatized Prisons!!!! I mean Good God man!

I was actually in a privately owned prison for part of my sentence out of california (called a CCF). It was better than a real prison in some ways, but also worse in other ways. California has a bunch of privately owned prisons that they use because the system is so overcrowded and they cant afford to build any new prisons.

[Goldmund]

this past harvest i worked with a former MP and CO, and he always would use the line...THREE HOTS AND A COT...i love that line....i was in jail once....first a holding cell at some shitty ass precinct on 80th street, manhattan...then they moved me to central booking....where i stayed for 26 hours...
i saw a couple of white dudes get their ass beat...
i went into jail wearing a stetson cowboy hat, a handknit psychedelic cardigan, and a don't mess with texas tshirt....they took my hat away when they took me to the tombs (central booking)....
anyways...
i would have gotten my ass beat, but as soon as they threw me in I over heard this HUGE black guy talking about bobby womack....I happen to be a huge fan of mr. womack as welll as other soul artists....and so we got a talking, and i even did a little singing...it saved my scrawny white ass.....
WHY WAS I IN THERE!?!?!
Well,
I was outside the beacon theater hustling to get a ticket to a sold out phil lesh and friends show 2001 was the year...
some fucker with a cigar pulls out a ticket, i knew it was fake, but you can usually slide into the beacon with a fake ticket....
i pulled a small piece of weed out of my pocket.....NOT EVEN IN A BAG OR NOTHING...and that was it...he was undercover......

[taru]

I am suprised to see milwaukee county jail being talked about in the couple posts I saw it in.
I have been fortunate enough to not land myself in there, but I have been in the Racine County Jail, and it is just fucking terrible, extremely cramped, dirty, loud, but I guess the same could be said of all jails.

[Michael]

I've only done a 6 month bit and I had a tame time. Maybe I got lucky. I had a good ass celly who was the alpha dog of the block for my first 3 weeks, after that, he got transferred and I got a single cell.

Got a mean job in there and thus had a bit of leverage because of it. I did the meals and cleaning so I could go in and out of the yard and back inside as I pleased. Also I did uniforms so people were always at me for favours with uniforms or food.

I'm a youngin and was only 19 when I went in, I'm skinny and dare I say somewhat effeminate looking so I'm glad I didn't have a tough time. I sure as fuck was worried my first day in the showers. I basically stared straight ahead, splashed myself for 30 seconds and got my ass out.

Never saw nothing REAL fucked up. Just some smalltime shit. This dude came in our block and was on PD (preventive detention) meaning he had to spend like a week alone. Anyway, one of the guards let me read his paper and who do I see on the cover? The dude down the end. So i take the front page and send it out to the yard.

Dude killed his own baby, shook it to death while on a meth bender. Anyway, a few guys have a problem with it, especially the black power dudes. A few guys started making shanks and hiding them in a yard. Jake the shake narks and they put us on lockdown and search the yards. The funny bit is they gave it a week after he ratted til they searched.

It's funny cos we had 3 pedos in our block and they got left alone. Also, the guards hated the pedos. One dude came in and told us he was in for fraud. A guard was like nah dude, hes a pedo.

[losangeleslifer]

One of the things about "jail" is the stress level is extremely high. You got guys that have just been charged, or are fighting cases oever sometimes years. Prison is where you go when you recieve your state time and then you can concentrate on geting though that rather than wondering what the fuck is going to hapen.

Listening to a bunch of jailhouse lawyers give advice (some very good and accurate by the way) to the scared shitless dude who has no idea of prelim, trial set, and eventually trial.

Roll with policics and most can survive. But as in the wild, the weak will succumb. And it is fucked up seeing a man with no repsect left and has "bitched" out.

You can smell the fear in that place.

[Bartholomew]

I am suprised to see milwaukee county jail being talked about in the couple posts I saw it in.
I have been fortunate enough to not land myself in there, but I have been in the Racine County Jail, and it is just fucking terrible, extremely cramped, dirty, loud, but I guess the same could be said of all jails.


When I was in Milwaukee everyone kept telling me how much better Racine was. Better food and other small things I guess. People said to me 'why didn't you get arrested down there?' like I had a choice or something. Hah.

[Michael]

the weak will succumb. And it is fucked up seeing a man with no repsect left and has "bitched" out. .
truth.
There was this old pedo dude, stevenson who's doing 10 years and he was a total bitch. My first day my celly takes me to get some jandals / flipflops and the guards are like nah none left for a while. So we go into the shower and dudes like oi stevenson, give em your jandals.

Also, some youngish kid comes in and talks a bit of shit. What hes done and who he runs with. Some big black dude tells him to get on his hands and knees, crawl across the yard and bark like a dog.
dude does it too. Most pathetic shit I've seen ever.

[taru]

When I was in Milwaukee everyone kept telling me how much better Racine was. Better food and other small things I guess. People said to me 'why didn't you get arrested down there?' like I had a choice or something. Hah.

I do not doubt Racine County Jail is better then Milwaukee's, but when I was in there people were saying the same shit just about Milwaukee being better. I have a feeling Milwaukee's is way worse, just based off my experience with the two cities.

[Dolofinell]

One of the things about "jail" is the stress level is extremely high. You got guys that have just been charged, or are fighting cases oever sometimes years. Prison is where you go when you recieve your state time and then you can concentrate on geting though that rather than wondering what the fuck is going to hapen.

Listening to a bunch of jailhouse lawyers give advice (some very good and accurate by the way) to the scared shitless dude who has no idea of prelim, trial set, and eventually trial.

Roll with policics and most can survive. But as in the wild, the weak will succumb. And it is fucked up seeing a man with no repsect left and has "bitched" out.

You can smell the fear in that place.

Very well put lalifer, been to both ^. You put that into perspective very well for the county jail and D.O.C. naive.

[JAYgirl]

I have been to jail far too many times than someone not yet 19 years old should have.
15 Unruly child/runaway 2 weeks in Juvy
15 Felony Shoplifting. Basically got away with that one with some community service and probation and 2 days juvy. Why? It was in a different state then where I lived, and they let my parents pick me up rather than lock me up for an extended period of time.
17 Drug Related Objects -RIGS. Ain't that some shit? This one was the worst, because I was a 17 year old petite white girl going to Rice Street, which is the Atlanta jail. They packed fifteen of us women in one little cell for 9 hours with no food or water or anything. Several of the other women were in for violent crimes, one for murder. All were much older. When I finally made it to population, I slept in a mat on the floor, because they felt it would be dangerous to put me in a cell. Luckily, the charge was BULLSHIT just some hyped up narcotic cops (reddawgs) who were upset they wasted all their time and K9 on nothing but rigs. The next morning all charges were dismissed for want of prosecution.
3 months ago my fiancee and I were arrested. I got felony possesion. He got felony possession and burglary. I got bonded out after 2 weeks of fayco, which is like daycare next to rice street. He is, unfortunately, still in and we will find out tomorrow whether he is going to bond out and hopefully get boot camp, or wait until march and hopefully get time served. (the DA offered him a 5 and 10, um FUCK that!) they are trying to make an example out of him.
^This last one forced me to go cold turkey off methadone. TERRIBLE. I do not reccomend it.

[seven10kids]

I have been to jail far too many times than someone not yet 19 years old should have.
15 Unruly child/runaway 2 weeks in Juvy
15 Felony Shoplifting. Basically got away with that one with some community service and probation and 2 days juvy. Why? It was in a different state then where I lived, and they let my parents pick me up rather than lock me up for an extended period of time.
17 Drug Related Objects -RIGS. Ain't that some shit? This one was the worst, because I was a 17 year old petite white girl going to Rice Street, which is the Atlanta jail. They packed fifteen of us women in one little cell for 9 hours with no food or water or anything. Several of the other women were in for violent crimes, one for murder. All were much older. When I finally made it to population, I slept in a mat on the floor, because they felt it would be dangerous to put me in a cell. Luckily, the charge was BULLSHIT just some hyped up narcotic cops (reddawgs) who were upset they wasted all their time and K9 on nothing but rigs. The next morning all charges were dismissed for want of prosecution.
3 months ago my fiancee and I were arrested. I got felony possesion. He got felony possession and burglary. I got bonded out after 2 weeks of fayco, which is like daycare next to rice street. He is, unfortunately, still in and we will find out tomorrow whether he is going to bond out and hopefully get boot camp, or wait until march and hopefully get time served. (the DA offered him a 5 and 10, um FUCK that!) they are trying to make an example out of him.
^This last one forced me to go cold turkey off methadone. TERRIBLE. I do not reccomend it.
how did you go to adult jail when you were 17? did they think you were 18? like you gave em false info? i dont get it. good luck to your man.

[opi8]

how did you go to adult jail when you were 17? did they think you were 18? like you gave em false info? i dont get it. good luck to your man.

I was locked up with a few kids that were still 17. They were such little punk bastards! You can be charged as an adult at 17

[reddragon3668]

You can be charged as an adult at just about any age past 12/13 if the crime is deemed worthy of it. States vary on this, I'm sure.

[JAYgirl]

how did you go to adult jail when you were 17? did they think you were 18? like you gave em false info? i dont get it. good luck to your man.

In georgia, at 17 you are charged as an adult. Kind of fucked up considering in all other aspects you are still legally a child. And thank you, I just got off the phone with him. His 28th birthday is this month, and our anniversary just passed. I sold my car and finally got him a paid lawyer, so were hoping that will help!

[Oxyphile]

SWIM has only had one experience with jail, and even though it was only for one night and the following day it was still highly unpleasant. He was denied his psych meds for 24 hours, given only a cold mcdonald's breakfast sandwich to eat, and just generally treated like shit. Fuck the police and judicial marshalls.