View Full Version : How much, roughly, does your opiate habit cost you per day?
limitless_euphoria
10-06-2010, 07:32 PM
I was thinking about this. I'm just curious to see how HOOKED some people are out there.
My opiate habit costs me $1.50/day as I have a $45 copay for my subs. Well, that's how much I'm paying for my daily dosage although with low dosing I'm spending under a buck.
"For less than a dollar a day, you can feel really good and make your brain think it has the opiates you need."
Sold to the junky in the front row!
If I had to pay out of pocket... eh, my script would be going lower. I'd still get the 8 mg pills to break into 1-2 mg bits.
So, spill it... how much are you spending on your pills, smack, prescription copays or whatever it is you've had to come up to??? If it fluctuates (as in H/oxy users often do) what's your average spent in a day of typical using?
What was it at its highest amount you've spent when you've really been cooking for those mostly recreational users? Would you rather not think about it?
For me I think I was up to one finger (10 g) of uncut H lasting me four days. ~2.5g/day of raw's a lot! Those were bad times. Yes, in most of 2008 I did IV/IM a LOT.
P.S. If you're a booster or a con artist I don't care how you get the money...I'm just being nosy. You guys know how to SWIM it up!
ka11ink
10-06-2010, 07:36 PM
Around 2 grand a month, that's on top of my free rxd methadone that my health insurance pays for.
Weefa
10-06-2010, 07:38 PM
mine used to be about 3-4 grand a month... but ive been in and out of employment the past half a year or so and ive had to slow it down major. still hook up with opanas twice a month bulk at a time.
JTDuffet
10-06-2010, 08:33 PM
Im down to 3 dollars a day... cost of my done.. but if the clinic accounting knew i was working again, it would jump to 90/week... or around 12/day....
when i was actively using, I was like the above poster as far as money was concerned.. i was using multiple forms of income and spending a LOT...
-jt
edit: i had written a NOVEL.. but decided to redo it...
Duckfeet
10-06-2010, 08:52 PM
zero lately--but I've paid everything I could borrow or steal or hustle...every fucking day....I get free healthcare and I guess I'm old enough where it's finally seen as legit...but I got low habit...when it's been
heroin or dialudids?: Everything....
pullmyhair
10-06-2010, 08:56 PM
Right now I pay $18 a day (I pay for my methadone, and for another person who goes to the clinic who gives me their mdone). Before the clinic, I spent between $20 and $800 per day, it really depended on what I could get and how much I had.
NeuroOpiodStudent
10-06-2010, 09:01 PM
I'm new on the board. just saying hello to everyone. i would say my habits costs per day ranges anywhere from 15-50 $ a day. probably a mean average of 25-30 /day
No Looking Back
10-06-2010, 09:10 PM
right now a month's supply of bupe (4-6mg a day) costs me $30 which is fucking awesome...so about $1/day.
Back when I was really bad into OC's a few years ago probably about $1500-$2000/month...but I was selling them too so I was making enough to use for free. I wish those days could have lasted forever...my family and friends would disagree!
HandMeSomeOpiates
10-06-2010, 09:57 PM
I use to spend $100 a day, but now that my habit is down I spend that in a week.
This would make a great poll. I might make one if everyone thinks its a good idea.
Weefa
10-06-2010, 10:03 PM
Im down to 3 dollars a day... cost of my done.. but if the clinic accounting knew i was working again, it would jump to 90/week... or around 12/day....
when i was actively using, I was like the above poster as far as money was concerned.. i was using multiple forms of income and spending a LOT...
-jt
edit: i had written a NOVEL.. but decided to redo it...
Its truely and lifestyle... I learned that the hard way.
mainline
10-06-2010, 10:06 PM
too much. a lot of sex, and a lot of money.
on average, I'd say 150 at the least a day to not be even half high. Of course, there are days when everything is out of place and i'm jumping ship for 1 pill/bag, but On average, throwing out the highs and the lows, between 150-350
maycausedrowsiness
10-06-2010, 10:12 PM
with the way prices are going right now on this final leg of the OG phaseout, $80-$160 per day...
If i buy in bulk like I SHOULD every time, $0 per day
I am currently "chipping" at the moment however... using for a few days at a time and then taking breaks with bupe...
When I'm using subs, $5/day
How much have I spent in the course of my entire opiate habit? Probly enough to buy a fucking Porsche.....
jo-jo
10-06-2010, 10:40 PM
I'd say around $20-$50/day. I shouldn't complain but, of course, I still do sometimes. I guess when you're broke even $20 seems like a lot.
blackhole
10-06-2010, 11:56 PM
Between $75 and $350 per day, depending on my appetite and available funds.
normus420
10-07-2010, 12:15 AM
when im on subs about $2.50 when im using $100-$200 a day more if i had the money but thats an average.
Morphus
10-07-2010, 12:56 AM
I'm a pod fiend and it costs me about about $15 a day to maintain.
comeondogbarkbite
10-07-2010, 01:18 AM
too much
ausativa
10-07-2010, 02:34 AM
^ +1 i hear that.
JUNKYJAY
10-07-2010, 05:07 AM
How much do I got ? I will spend every last cent i got on dope and wake up the next morning with no money and a broken smoke. The life of a junky isnt it awesome!!!!!!!!!
Currently, 140mg methadone & 50mg diazepam (paid for). Smack, between £20 - £60 (shared with another) daily.
Up until about two months or so ago, I was spending £200 - £300 daily on smack & £60 weekly on diazepam & temazepam.
Benz
use to be about $2k a month on dope but now i pay $0 for subutex. ty insurance!
D Man
10-07-2010, 07:01 AM
$11 a day, or roughly $330 per month. Before I got on methadone, I was spending about $2000 per month on dope and pills...
doctor diesel
10-07-2010, 07:51 AM
These are some scary, even surreal figures I'm reading here, and in some cases they beg the question: "Where the hell do you get that kind of money from in the first place?".
In my own case, I've intentionally blotted from my mind the amounts of money - often virtual money, effectively - that I would spend when in the throes of my DOC use. But I can quite clear-headedly tell you all how much my bupe maintenance costs me, and that's £14.40 per month - the cost of two two-weekly UK prescriptions.
Fortunately (with a big 'F'), when I add a certain combination drug to this daily bupe therapy in order to get high, it costs me nothing as it's 'borrowed' from someone who has a regular script for shedloads of it.
From hundreds of pounds a month to £14.40; needless to say, my family's standard of living has improved somewhat.
Doc
upstate_007
10-07-2010, 08:18 AM
$0.33 Per day. That is for my CP scripts.
Back when I did H, it was about $100-200 per day. That was really rough to keep up. Especially when homeless and jobless in NYC.
DocDiesel, obviously you don't have to answer, but what is the 'combination' drug you add to get a synergy?
Benz
doctor diesel
10-07-2010, 09:36 AM
DocDiesel, obviously you don't have to answer, but what is the 'combination' drug you add to get a synergy?
Benz
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=29272
Doc
FiendMan
10-07-2010, 09:36 AM
right now, $14/month for my patches and oxymorphs and another $14/month for my xanax and kpins...gotta love that ins. every once in a while i'll drop $200-300 for a night of "fun" for the wife and i, but those days are few and far between and pretty much over with.
i don't even wanna think about the past when it was EVERYTHING i had.
irish
10-07-2010, 09:44 AM
6.666.... cents. Good drug plan.
HydroApe
10-07-2010, 12:25 PM
57 dollars a day :(
gameface
10-07-2010, 01:06 PM
Not a God-Damn'd Fucking Nickel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And if it did, as I told my MMT Counselor; I would be out shooting dope in a heartbeat. OHHHHH how I hate my clinic.
PS:
Thanks for saving my life THS- Summit/ Seattle
Weefa
10-07-2010, 01:13 PM
When you're fuckin around in the game and you're really on your grind and you know a couple scripts and you're slinging a little bit of dro.... its nothing to pull a couple grand out your ass. But in the end it always seems like theres never enough or you run out of money.
hovadagod
10-07-2010, 01:17 PM
This is the first time clicking on an LE thread where I actually was hoping to see the poll results and there were none. I guess I should have noticed before clicking but I just assumed there would be a poll.
poppy
10-07-2010, 01:39 PM
Free methadone (I'm not working at the moment for a few reasons - Poppy puts on virtual kevlar vest for protection from Shelly - then gets silly and remembers a cartoon called batfink and changes his catchphrase slightly to 'your words can't harm me my wings are like a shield of steel')
Anyway Heroin probably £10 a day and on pay day at least £20 very often more always shared with SO. Like I said to Danny I have the budgeting skills of a three year old - so for one day a fortnight I live like a queen heroin wise and the rest of the time I scratch around.
jimmyfingers
10-07-2010, 04:07 PM
Free right now since I am clean
Past few years on subs I had a monthly copay of 45 and the 10 when the generics came out.
I only took about 10 pills out of 60 every month and stashed the rest, so it was costing me pennies to maintain.
I have always been a penny pincher and never paid full price type guy. No check/atm fraud though. I also have always had a strong desire to keep my credit perfect so never cash advances on credit cards even though it was tempting. I remember times I would go as far as sticking my card into the atm, but luckily never pulled the trigger. Bad credit can really ruin your life.
I had a 'thing' going when I lived in Pa where I would drive to Newark and cop for about 10 people every day. This usually allowed me to do 2 bundles a day. I pretty much destroyed a car putting that many miles on it every day though.
I knew some guys that sold potatoes and I would simply drop off 4 pounds of high grade potatoes every week for 500 dollars.
I had a doctor writing me 60 OC 80s, 10 100mcg Fent patches and Xaxax every month plus seeing a bupe doctor in Jersey City for 90 8mg subs (when subs used to be worth 20 a piece back in 2003)
It was a rare occurance that I would spend any actual 'hard earned cash' and if I did, it was recoverable (using for free). I pinched a shit load of bags and was one expensive middle man.
Access to solid, cheap, high quality, & dependable dealers can be a saving grace for addicts when their peers aren't as fortunate to know such great citizens.
Never been to the Pawn Shop unless to buy or look at guns.
If I started a serious addiction again, I would be fucked since I refuse to commit multiple felonies every hour to stay high. I would blow through my paychecks, savings, vintage collectables, house, car, and then probably commit suicide.
danny
10-07-2010, 04:20 PM
Free right now since I am clean
Past few years on subs I had a monthly copay of 45 and the 10 when the generics came out.
I only took about 10 pills out of 60 every month and stashed the rest, so it was costing me pennies to maintain.
I have always been a penny pincher and never paid full price type guy. No check/atm fraud though. I also have always had a strong desire to keep my credit perfect so never cash advances on credit cards even though it was tempting. I remember times I would go as far as sticking my card into the atm, but luckily never pulled the trigger. Bad credit can really ruin your life.
I had a 'thing' going when I lived in Pa where I would drive to Newark and cop for about 10 people every day. This usually allowed me to do 2 bundles a day. I pretty much destroyed a car putting that many miles on it every day though.
I knew some guys that sold potatoes and I would simply drop off 4 pounds of high grade potatoes every week for 500 dollars.
I had a doctor writing me 60 OC 80s, 10 100mcg Fent patches and Xaxax every month plus seeing a bupe doctor in Jersey City for 90 8mg subs (when subs used to be worth 20 a piece back in 2003)
It was a rare occurance that I would spend any actual 'hard earned cash' and if I did, it was recoverable (using for free). I pinched a shit load of bags and was one expensive middle man.
Access to solid, cheap, high quality, & dependable dealers can be a saving grace for addicts when their peers aren't as fortunate to know such great citizens.
Never been to the Pawn Shop unless to buy or look at guns.
If I started a serious addiction again, I would be fucked since I refuse to commit multiple felonies every hour to stay high. I would blow through my paychecks, savings, vintage collectables, house, car, and then probably commit suicide.
fuck me fingers, dont say that, thats a bad way to think, i hope youre not being entirely serious - i understand you might have put a good bit of distance between yourself and the dope but im sure i dont have to tell you how insidious it is, a lot of us have backslid while having the best intentions
even if you do fuck up its not worth doing yourself in, you sorted yourself out before, why not again?
limitless_euphoria
10-07-2010, 05:43 PM
This is the first time clicking on an LE thread where I actually was hoping to see the poll results and there were none. I guess I should have noticed before clicking but I just assumed there would be a poll.
Interesting answers...well the reason I didn't was because the amounts are all over the ball park!
Think about it, we're international... our friends from across the Atlantic and Down-under would be able to readily answer in U.S. dollars (they could do currency translation) plus it would have to be ranges. That's the only reason why—beleive me, you guys know me too well, I did think about that... :)
Seems like those that get legal pharmies got it a LOT easier... no need to hustle unless you're tolerance is so high you gotta go to the street to supplement your pain meds. Cost-wise, this shit, man, it's not easy to do these days unless you're willing to settle for buprenorphine or MMT, if you have real pain and NO record of substance abuse AND insurance of some kind it's got to be a lot less burdensome. Hell some people on Medicaid (title 19) pay jack-shit in our country.
Once you get caught up in the smack that shit can own your soul. Think of the money so many of us have given to dealers and ultimately those of us who have copped have made people foreignly and domestically money so because there's that profit motive opiates in general will never go away and people will always pay something for them whether it's to a pharmacy of some guy whose cell # you got! :)
I'm lucky with one single copay per month. If I had to even buy the Roxanne generics it'd be a different story.
The_Chef
10-08-2010, 04:59 PM
Nothing anymore.
When I was using though, $20-50 per day plus a couple of hours spent copping, shooting and nodding and, of course, my self-respect, dignity and soul.
Also gas money, can't forget gas money.
PaythePiper
10-08-2010, 08:29 PM
6 months ago when I was on dope I was at about $300 a day and it was killing me (for about 3 and 1/2 grams of tar). Now at the methadone clinic its about $14 a day.
fuck me fingers, dont say that, thats a bad way to think, i hope youre not being entirely serious - i understand you might have put a good bit of distance between yourself and the dope but im sure i dont have to tell you how insidious it is, a lot of us have backslid while having the best intentions
even if you do fuck up its not worth doing yourself in, you sorted yourself out before, why not again?
Danny, you're a good guy.
Duckfeet
10-08-2010, 09:35 PM
<snip>
If I started a serious addiction again, I would be fucked since I refuse to commit multiple felonies every hour to stay high. I would blow through my paychecks, savings, vintage collectables, house, car, and then probably commit suicide.
You never know what you'll do: I've had a few backslides into serious addiction like you describe, escaping this shit for years, going way up high in life...then loosing all, getting terribly in debt, jail looming, heroin eating my lunch, busted...all lost...but I hung in there, and even tho I come from a suicidal background in my family, I was always glad I stuck around...with time you see it a bit different, and it gives you a perspective on the things people who haven't suffered take for granted...most people in the West. don't know these dark midnights like we do...and it gives you some compassion for others which can't be bought...but like just today, I was looking at the waves, and walking in the wetsand and thinking how lucky I was to be alive, on this earth...there are compensations, never give up...
I dunno, I think most junkies are more likely to accidentally commit suicide than on purpose. Well at least not cause of their addiction. For me, I've briefly considered it when I'm kicking really bad, but the thing is, I don't wanna just not suffer, I wanna get HIGH! And I know if I kill myself I'll never get high again. I don't think my addiction would make me commit suicide.
Dan Steely
10-09-2010, 04:33 AM
1200-1500/mo for the past 6 months but I put the brakes on last wk cause I gotta pile up some cash. My wknd chips were turning into 5 day runs followed by a couple days of done which is nearly free for me. Hoping I can turn back into the good little chipster I used to be. If I had banked all the overtime I've worked since april I'd be shoppin for a pretty nice 1 owner audi right now.:( sigh.
This thread was a good idea. Got me thinkin about an issue I intentionally wouldn't allow myself to. It hurts to add it up but maybe it will help motivate me to get my act together. I'd much rather have the nice car than all the crap that went into the spoon.
doctor diesel
10-09-2010, 05:27 AM
Trouble with junkiedom is you'll flash that cash without one single, soitary thought to where it's coming from, how your family are going to eat, how the bills will be paid - or anything. The ONLY thing that matters is the selfish glory of the incoming fix.
Chef saying "not to forget the cost of gas" got me doing some mental arithmetic. When I was grinding around on that hamster wheel, I was putting about £15 of fuel in my car almost every day. I never counted that cost (and of course I tried never counting the cost of the smack either), but it IS part and parcel of that whole scary outgoing.
Jeezus, £15 a day is £450 a month! That's not the dope, that's just getting there! I'm not going to reveal the cost of the dope as well, because I'm in ostrich mode on that - I really don't want to know. But all that money, which was found via credit cards that were NEVER EVER going to be paid back, should have been for the betterment of my family, or even shouldn't have been used at all, given that it was virtual money.
I am so glad that bupe - and an enforced hospital stay, which was the true catalyst - saved me from this mindless, selfish path of destruction. Even though I am more unemployed than employed these days, thanks to recession, I am comparatively financially flush, and my car fuel bill is now about £30 a week.
Incidentally, a well-timed minor inheritance cleared those credit bills, and this whole ugly scenario has been sufficiently vivid and raw to ensure that I will NEVER again be drawn onto the hamster wheel. Thank fuck for the narrow escape.
As Steely Dan said, "This thread was a good idea".
A darned good idea.
Doc
jimmyfingers
10-09-2010, 05:03 PM
Over the past 3-4 years, I have managed to make a nice life for myself by getting my education, career, inheritance, and putting money into as many investments I can.
Now, backslide into addiction in very possible. I learned early on to 'never say never' which is one of the most true statements regarding addiction.
I doubt I would off myself, but I would suffer some serious mental problems if I ruined everything I have built
Ickyuck
10-09-2010, 06:20 PM
My habit is about 60 dollars a day if I am low on funds... otherwise, it would be around 160 per day.
WickedContin
10-09-2010, 07:19 PM
Oh lets just say that from June - August of this year it is possible that I know someone who blew around 20k on Oxy. Lets just say that person isnt spending like that anymore, but has managed to get to less than 400 per week spent.
jimmyfingers
10-09-2010, 08:34 PM
Oh lets just say that from June - August of this year it is possible that I know someone who blew around 20k on Oxy. Lets just say that person isnt spending like that anymore, but has managed to get to less than 400 per week spent.
Damn, that is a shit load of money.
About the worst spending thing I know of IRL was an old school hippie in his 50s. He had been in and out of the rooms since he was 16. He had just inherited about 150K. He ends up selling his house that was paid for for 350k and moves into a little little place that was probably around 100k. He gets on a major crack and heroin binge and blows all the money in 10 months
Divide By Zero
10-09-2010, 09:06 PM
Depends on how available things are, I moved about a year ago & have had problems keeping in touch with my old methods & finding new ways is usually not the best experience...
Day to day cost is very hard to say... but
Used to be around $250 - $350 a month.. Currently; around $150 a month.
& wow @ 20k.... if only things were that good.
However much I earn it's never enough. Unlike you jimmy (pinching-pennies) when it comes to dope I don't care. I will pay top dollar no sweat. Hell, at the moment I'm supporting two habits. My bf does all the running around and cooking while I'm at work. He brings me a brown paper bag with "lunch" in it every day.
If I could get away with spending just $50 a day, I'd have no desire to stop.
jimmyfingers
10-10-2010, 02:16 PM
However much I earn it's never enough. Unlike you jimmy (pinching-pennies) when it comes to dope I don't care. I will pay top dollar no sweat. Hell, at the moment I'm supporting two habits. My bf does all the running around and cooking while I'm at work. He brings me a brown paper bag with "lunch" in it every day.
If I could get away with spending just $50 a day, I'd have no desire to stop.
Penny pinching was not my philosophy regarding dope. I never want to pay full price for dope and always try and find a deal for it. However, I was in my Freshman year of college working on the weekends (maybe 200 every other week). That was my only money coming in. I paid for college out of pocket and did not have any loans coming in. The amount of money some of my friends got in student loans for living expenses was absurd.
When I came down to Atl, and dope was just not that popular, I had no choice but to pay top dollar. I would even go around to different dealers offering them large amounts of money if they could get me some 'good' fire dope. Never happened no matter how much money I was offering. I really think much of this has to do with your location, how many opiate addicts are saturated in your market, and availability of solid connects and strong dope. Came a point and time where I just said "I give up"
One could easily have a dope habit in Atl with all the bad things that come with it, but I want strong, pure dope. I have a problem paying 100 for .3 and shooting it in one shot and only feeling something every 3rd time. I did not find many opiate addicts down here either, not the way it was up in the Tri State area where whole towns were rolling in the shit.
pinn3d
10-10-2010, 02:37 PM
pods supplemented with trams--- comes to about $13-!7 a day...... for me thats a bargain!! If I were to switch to using roxi's, it would easily be more like $60-75 a day.....
ohpee
10-11-2010, 12:06 AM
It was usually a bundle every 2 days, so figure 80 for the bun, 10 for gas. 90/2= $45 Dollars a day. And that wasn't very recreational, just to get by. I got $117 a week unemployment, so figure around $240 every 2 weeks, plus an extra $50 on the off week thanks to Obama.
So figure in 2 weeks time I'd get $240, spend 45 a day, so.. $45x14 = $630 - $240= $390 left to raise.
All I have to say is thank god for having parent's who have a business and will let me work for cash, a girlfriend who has a job (albeit a habit..) and Obama for that extra 50 to get by.
I don't really know how I did it, but I'll tell you, I was sick... alot...
fuckin eh
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