Saving The Liver

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Ok, cold water extraction is out of the question due to "way to much time". I'm very impatient. I will be getting Milk Thistle tommorow. Anybody know of any other goodies for the liver??

[chemboy7]

Ok, cold water extraction is out of the question due to "way to much time". I'm very impatient. I will be getting Milk Thistle tommorow. Anybody know of any other goodies for the liver??

A CWE only takes about 25 minutes, I'm all about getting smashed as soon as possible but I can hold off for half an hour if it means saving my vital organs some damage. The best advice is to get rid of the APAP IMO.

[goagirl23]

Ok, cold water extraction is out of the question due to "way to much time". I'm very impatient. I will be getting Milk Thistle tommorow. Anybody know of any other goodies for the liver??


Milk Thistle is probably the best. I would also reccomend Licorice Root, Skullcap, Tumeric, and Dandelion. All are easy to drink as a tea or take in pill form.

[dorje]

Same (s-adenosyl methionine) . Some studies indicate it can reverse cirrhosis. Any health food store carries it

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Thanks guys. I'm afraid I'd lose my pills doing the CWE. I'm going to the store tonight.

[Fleeting_Glimpse]

A CWE only takes about 25 minutes, I'm all about getting smashed as soon as possible but I can hold off for half an hour if it means saving my vital organs some damage. The best advice is to get rid of the APAP IMO.

yes, listen to him, you need your liver in order for you to remain alive,

you wont lose all your pills,Ive done it loits and not once did i not get high

[chemboy7]

Actually, from what I hear, doing a CWE on most pills (Codiene, Hydrocodone, ect.) you can realize a 85-90% yeild so long as you wait until little pieces of ice start to form... that's pretty good by anyones standards. Regardless, once you do damage it's done... no amount of any herb or medication will fix the problem. Every once in awhile you may be able to get away with it, but I would CWE everytime. Even without the detrimental effects of high amounts of APAP or Aspirin, taking enough to get a nice buzz going on is liable to make you sick... I know grams of that shite don't sit well with me.

[illchemist]

I find that filtering that ultra-fine APAP is really a pain in the ass and I always lose some in the goop. The APAP is slightly water soluble so it forms some kind of mush which clogs up the filter. I use a mortar and pestle so I wonder if I am grinding it up too much.

[Fleeting_Glimpse]

ya ive had the same problem, but i find if you keep the surface area nice and wide and you make sure the filter is even all the way around than i find it doesnt clogg up as much

[vaxn8]

If you want to help your liver deal with the type of damage acetaminophen causes, you're going to need GST and ya can't buy that in a bottle. I would stick with the CWE's and listen to what other's have said about them. But if you want to fry your liver and don't mind the pee-yellow skin, go for it.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

So I had the nerve to ask my doc and he says to me. "When a person uses hydro long term and builds tolerance, the liver builds a tolerance to the APAP as well forming crystal like things called guten??? something(can't spell) that break down the APAP faster. What could be a toxic amount of APAP to a begginner who has no tolerance would not effect a long term user who could actually take these large amounts of APAP without causing any serious damage." This made me feel a lot better after hearing him tell me this. I'm still going to get Milk Thistle and other things you guys suggested. I hate this fuckin APAP shit, take the shit out for Gods sake.

[chemboy7]

While APAP is semibenificial to the medication's intended purpose I believe one of the major reasons it is in there is to deter abuse. What your doctor told you about your body becoming more and more used to APAP and breaking it down faster may be true but I am sure that he was not talking about an abuse situation. There is no safe way to take shit loads of Acetaminophen, your snipe hunting. In the long run, it's your organs... I really dont care what you do with them, but if it was my body you can be sure I wouldn't chance it.

[dorje]

Tylenol (acetominaphen) is toxic to the liver. They been hiding that little fact in order to sell more of that crap. When I worked in a ER room as the mental health crisis worker a pill suicide was not a problem because of the narcotic (they can breath for you and there is Narcan) but the Tylenol would shut a liver right down. The only successful suicide I saw in 5 years was the guy who dissolved a bunch of Tylenol in hot water. He was toast. They even have the head of the company on TV now saying "I rather you don't take Tylenol than take too much" Yeah,right. That's because reports of livel values getting screwed with just a little regular use of Tylenol have hit the media.
Save your liver,save yourself. BTW Same is reported to help liverproblems and in Europe is regularly prescribed to alcoholics with cirrhosis, etc. Supposed to be a natural antidepressant also. Any health food store will have Same.