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07-27-2006, 10:54 AM
Hi, I found this site by reading Jacky's posts that Corydalis potentiates Kratom...which brings to my question!
How much Corydalis 5x should be used? How much does this potentiate the effects of Kratom? (like, should SWIM take half the usual amount, two-thirds, etc....) SWIM usually takes about 7/7.5 grams of the Super Kratom (red vein, Korth, Kroth...THAT strain) when its available...which isn't that often.
Thank ya kindly
(btw, guess I should introduce myself in the newbie forum, huh?) heheehe...
07-29-2006, 01:19 AM
when I take corydalis 5x I usually take 1-5 grams.
when taking a new herb for the first time start low...common sense...etc etc.
this plant in the papaveracea is an excellent polysubstance candidate in my opinion...some people cant stand the stuff. thp, or tetrahydropalmatine, one of the active compounds in corydalis, is available in higher purity extracts...of up to 80-90% THP content....I have tried the near pure THP, and found it to have a different effect than the whole extract..in my opinion the abundant and complex alkaloid isoquinoline content in the plant has added effect than just the effect of the THP. I would take the full spectrum extract over high potency THP content anyday.
the 80% THP material seems to maybe have a dream augmenting effect, I had some damn strange and very intense plant doctor type or dreams on this material.
in one dream I found myself in an old town in china, me and my partner were in this town to buy a strange narcotic plant in the famed plant market that this town was known for countrywide.
I noticed some huge moldy primordeal corn species growing near masonry walls that were similiar to structures that the Inca created...but we were in china.
my partner and our guide left quickly after obtaining the rare plant species...I was left to wander this strange and ancient village on my own. when I finally returned to our hotel accomidations, I opened the door to the scene of my partner and our guide in the bathtub together, involved in a datura like love stupor...with bits of the black stick like narcotic plant parts laying near in a old sardine tin. the bastards did almost all of the voucher specimen!! they destroyed the integrity of the specimen getting high!! FUCK!!
and then I woke up.
that was a strange dream. and I feel like the corydalis had an effect there. the drug probably transported my consiousness to the mythic city of medicine...SUDARSANA, the city to find if you are interested in all the esoteric inebriants, amrita, and spring tonics.
anyway this combination is really good with adding salvia m to the mix, or dan shen 5x extract. this salvia m species is not salvia divinorum, but it does contain psychoactive diterpenes responsible for partial benzodiazepine agonist activity. the chinese call the combination of salvia m and corydalis as golden bells powder. it is a common additive recipe for chinese spring tonic medicinals.
07-29-2006, 03:38 AM
Thanks! Are you sure this is good to mix with Kratom? Hehe, Kratom will give me fucked up and vivid dreams by itself...and sometimes (rarely) hypnagogic dreams. The MOST fucked up kratom dream I had...I was starting to fall asleep (this was hypnagogic...thats when you start dreaming as you're laying down trying to fall asleep...almost like sleep paralysis I guess)f, and I started hearing voices...not like inside my head imaginary voices, REAL voices. My heart starts pounding and I kinda get panicy...I can barely move, and I lift my head up the pillow with a ton of effort, and the blanket, around my torso, had a really deep concave depression in it, almost like a tunnel. I stare at the black center, and it starts getting cloudy and grayish-looking. Then a fetus fades in (in gray-scale, of course!), like its floating in the womb. So there I am, staring at really fucked up ultrasound that suddenly appeared under my blanket, surrounded by hostile voices...absolutely CONVINCED all this was real....then I woke up, in the same position I was when the dream started. I didn't go back to sleep that night...
ANYways, does it really potentiate kratom, or lengthen the effects? Or do Corydalis and Kratom ust have a good synergy? (I have a bunch of Corydalis 5x, but I'm ust not sure how much kratom is safe to use with it...can't wait to try it, tho, I heard its really good when you can't sleep...oh yeah, I gave some to a friend tonight actually...he twisted his ankle pretty bad...I'll give him a call tomorrow to see if he had any effects or not.)
BTW, you might add Prickly Poppy (argemone mexicana) to your list of w/d aids and potentiators. I've seen a study (I'll google it later...too tired right now) where the isoquinolines in the leaves/flowers (NOT the seed latex...thats horrible for you) either stopped or greatly reduced morphine withdrawal symptoms in rats. I've got a gram of 10x resin extract, but still, can't find any dosage info at all. Thats one REALLY frustrating about all these obscure alkaloids from plants...
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