Xanax hell !! Love'm hate'm

[Babydollangel]

Xanax !!! oh yes ! the drug I love to hate.....my internist kept me on 6mgs daily for 2 1/2 YEARS straight and then upon one of my visits just decided for some reason after this amount of time to take me off the med....he said that the effexor that had originally been prescribed with it and was supposed to 'take over' the GAD should be doing its job so just out of the blue he wrote me my last script last sept that said somthing along the lines of taking a pill every day for a week like i was used to then the next week taking only one bar and skipping the next day then do that for a week then half the bar for a week then take NONE...
Little did I know this is not safe nor possible..thankfully i never took as many as he allowed me so i had about 2 bottles (180 pills) saved up and did my own taper that took damn near a year..
well, went back to him about three weeks ago due to my GAD (could the damn wd's be causing that? lol) and what does he do BUT PUT me right back on the effexor and 6 mgs daily of Xanax plus I have 180 of the niravam , which until 2 weeks ago i had never heard of.....

hmmm whats the point of this thread I guess but to say that I underestimated during those two years what kind of hell xanax was going to put me through when he took me off of it....sooooooooooo, now hes doing this to me again ( I went in there last month with the depression/nervous breakdown thing going on)..i have already decided effexor aint gonna be working for me--its the sex drive thing for that one, but during the last few days since I have been going through hydro wd I can take 3 X bars and they do not even phase me and Im a little person size wise...now thats scarey !!
oh yeah, point of this thread....LOL if you ever hafta cut out regular use of xanax it will put you through a hell you never knew existed plus i read that the way my dr wanted me to taper could have brought on a seizure...I never even realized how big a dose of 2mg bars 3 X's daily was until I told a person or two and they just looked at me stunned and surprised I would be on so much. and it wasnt on an 'as needed basis' the bottle says take three bars daily by mouth !!
.I just trusted my drs advice and had I known what getting off of it would do to me I would have preceded with much caution..

Anyways this drug is now prescribed to me again and Im going to do my damndest to not take much of it cuz of what I went through before....usually a whole bar would knock me down and wipe out my memory for a full day but the last couple of days of my hydro wd not even Xanax could calm the restlessness which for me is the hardest part of any withdrawl.

Also trying to wean myself off Xanax if I did it too fast or didnt take my dose at a reg time, I got sensations in my arms and legs like I was being electrocuted, I wonder if that is common? and why?

anyways long story short Im trying to take as little of these babys as possible this go around ...the are just so good they are bad I guess..
BDA

[scarlett44]

I have a dr that rx's the xanax (spelling?) like crazy but I have never really cared for them. They put me to sleep. What is the difference between hydrocodone and darvocet. i ahve a big bottle of darvocet but it doesn;t seem as good as the hydros. Am I not taking enough darvocet? I ordered the hydros online but I am out and all i have left is darvocet. Any advice?

[Babydollangel]

I have a dr that rx's the xanax (spelling?) like crazy but I have never really cared for them. They put me to sleep. What is the difference between hydrocodone and darvocet. i ahve a big bottle of darvocet but it doesn;t seem as good as the hydros. Am I not taking enough darvocet? I ordered the hydros online but I am out and all i have left is darvocet. Any advice?

Darvocet is more to me like a suped-up tylenol....lol....they tried to give me those when I had kidney stones ...i happily handed them back...hydro is at the bottom of the ladder I guess as far as having 'hard core' opiates but I just cant seem to get over my love for hydro...LOL...and boy oh boy when I run out early do i DEARLY regret it and count the hours till I can have more. But yes def. darvocet is very mild for sure. although next time i get my hands on some ill keep them for ya know 'just in case'.

I nver could understand myself why people love Xanax but my doc prescribes them pretty freely also and the big mg ones too...they just seem to take over you if you dont watch it and then try to stop taking them and pay dearly if you dont taper properly.....dangerous for sure. Xanax usually puts me out like a light too and helps alot with insomnia among anxiety....problem is my brain really and truly started to beleive i couldnt sleep without Xanax ! I finally got over that addiction...took along time..I cant believe Im taking them again ! sighhhh !

[Opiyum]

Darvocet is a mix of Actaminophen and Propoxyphene. Its odd because though its one of the weekest opiods out there it seems to me at least that it is the most harmful to the human body. By that I mean that it had the most side effects. I believe Burroughs pointed this out too. The only time i fucked with it I had a few hundred of them and man did they suck...better than getting sick...I used to say.
Propoxyphene I believe is a derivative of Diphenylpropylamine a fully synthetic painkiller. Just testing my memory here so I may be wrong on all counts but I can tell you that Hydro is definatly not on the bottom rung of any ladder. Some people claim that its stronger than Oxy. Though I dont prefer Hydro I still enjoy it very much. In my opinion the high is a completely different animal. More body warming effects less nodding...eh


(http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diphenylpropylamine&action=edit)

[ShaneFlipside]

Propoxyphene is not really an opiate - but like other fully synthetic pain relievers it has been used for a range of things, including a short period where it was the trend of the day for clinic aided withdrawals (as opposed too program based) - What I never really understood was when they discovered the mirror molecule and called it Darvon-N - and then it was supposed to be way better for withdrawals than regular Darvon - which used to have a street name of Pink Ladies in the 60's because Lilly had some in Pink Bullet capsules - bottom line - by the early 70's they came up with Darvon-N. It was great for relieving worst of withdrawal symptoms - and since it didn't mask cravings or keep one from feeling an opiate mixed or added on top - well they work better than a lot of things - only problem is they're real toxic. Rarely prescribed these days because of the statistical evidence of their effectiveness as a suicide pill drug. Use with caution but don't ever expect them to cause euphoria by increasing the dose!! A far as the acet part - that is one more thing they've poured acetaminophen into through the ages - fucking up our livers and making the pills non-shootable more or less. Fuck acetaminophen!! And the really sickening thing was reading a thread here at opiophile where recent tests found large batchs of good overseas heroin are cut with acetaminophen (and or caffeine amongst other bitter alkaloids). Sickening to think of the drug I thought would never be buffered with this shit - has been and is being - the thread just pointed this out on a positive note to expose all the stories of ground glass or strychnine in the back east white dope as bogus - but to me I feel like Tylenol might as well be ground glass - fuck acetaminophen!

[Babydollangel]

Propoxyphene is not really an opiate - but like other fully synthetic pain relievers it has been used for a range of things, including a short period where it was the trend of the day for clinic aided withdrawals (as opposed too program based) - What I never really understood was when they discovered the mirror molecule and called it Darvon-N - and then it was supposed to be way better for withdrawals than regular Darvon - which used to have a street name of Pink Ladies in the 60's because Lilly had some in Pink Bullet capsules - bottom line - by the early 70's they came up with Darvon-N. It was great for relieving worst of withdrawal symptoms - and since it didn't mask cravings or keep one from feeling an opiate mixed or added on top - well they work better than a lot of things - only problem is they're real toxic. Rarely prescribed these days because of the statistical evidence of their effectiveness as a suicide pill drug. Use with caution but don't ever expect them to cause euphoria by increasing the dose!! A far as the acet part - that is one more thing they've poured acetaminophen into through the ages - fucking up our livers and making the pills non-shootable more or less. Fuck acetaminophen!! And the really sickening thing was reading a thread here at opiophile where recent tests found large batchs of good overseas heroin are cut with acetaminophen (and or caffeine amongst other bitter alkaloids). Sickening to think of the drug I thought would never be buffered with this shit - has been and is being - the thread just pointed this out on a positive note to expose all the stories of ground glass or strychnine in the back east white dope as bogus - but to me I feel like Tylenol might as well be ground glass - fuck acetaminophen!

Awhile back someone tried to convince me that apap made hydroco. stronger...there were times i actually added regular tylenol to see if this was true...i had no idea at that time I was doing even more harm (already taking shit loads of vic. anyways) to liver. Just thinkin about this now (of course i did no research on it before doing it) makes me feel like such a dumb ass and my poor poor liver ! ugh!

[Adormidera]

I agree with Opiyum, I always thought of Darvocet (also Darvon, with ASA instead of APAP) as your last-resort option, better than nothing but not by much. I'd almost rather get by on poppy tea or homemade opium. Not to say that if Darvocet was raining from the sky I wouldn't be gathering them up and saving them for desperate times.

Years ago they gave me Darvocet for headaches, right after we relized that ibuprofen didn't help, and--oh my God!--neither did naproxen. So the next step in the ladder was Darvocet and that actually will give me a headache if I don't already have one, so happily I was able to ascend to bigger and better things--sigh. With Davocet don't expect to get much higher by taking lots more, it seems to "ceiling out", although you'll get more and worse side effects, definitely.

I was Rx'd Xanax the first time at age 12 and that was pretty hard-core at that age, I had no idea what I was messing with and was super-depressed to boot. I remember taking 4 or 5 and crawling into bed waiting to die. (Of course that didn't happen, but I never had more than that many at a time because my mom wasn't completely stupid and locked them up.) Took me a long time to taper off them. I never have understood why anyone would want to use benzo's recreationally. The electric current sensations you describe are classic to benzo withdrawal and a great reason to take it easy this time around Baby!

[johnny27]

So then is proproxyphene and dextro-proproxyphene two different drugs? I mean they're obvousily related but is there much difference is euphoric effects? Or is dextroproproxyphene refered to as Darvon-N as shane mentioned