Oxycontin compared to Heroin...

[PRIZEFIGHTERINFERNO]

I am interested to see some opinions on what people think the comparison is like between OC and Heroin. THere are different ways of looking at this as im sure you all know like anagelsia, euphoria, duration, WD or whatever, any input?

[Undermywheels74]

I would much rather do heroin..the high is unlike any other..i feel so relaxed and i can think through problems. Oxy is ok..but it gets me slightly paranoid. I havent hit the H in 2 years...mostly cause i was a 8 bag a day user for about 2 years and do not want to go thru the money loss or w/d's again. I have hit up the Oxy though..i actually got some 5mg i/r's that i snorted a few ago..dont last super long..but still fun for what it is.

[Opiyum]

Oxy...speedy happy clean the floor time
Heroin...smacky dopey nod the fuck out time...

Never had tar just powder

[SirDonkeyPunch]

Oxy has that clean sorta high to it. Its good stuff, but with good ol' H it seems like theres more of a euphoria. You might not be noddin but you definitely feel it and its definitely good. I think the rush from dope is a lot better than OC's. The only problem is finding a good dope hookup that is consistent and good quality. I got a sorta dilemma with that right now so im just hammerin down dem OC boyz.

[PRIZEFIGHTERINFERNO]

One morning when i aquired some H and managed to save a little for the next morning, i experienced the best euphoria. Everyone was gone so i went at it, all of it. It was a sunny day so i sat out in the front yard and experienced the ultimate in euphoria, everything was clear and beautifull, perfection it was like nirvana an enlightenment of sorts. I never reached the peak again, maybe i will soon but who knows cause im happy that was just a hi point of my life even if it was just for a few moments. In all my years since then with other Opiates, especially Oxycontin i havent hit that same ceiling. Dont get me wrong there have been great and sometimes enlightening times but not like the Diacetylmorphine. I guess that has to do with the comparison...Maybe the Euphoria is just much more powerfull, probably is. I dont do H...i have but i dont, im not saying i wont...but im happy with my prescribed regimen. I dont know i just thought id like to share that moment of my life...the H made everything so crystal clear for a moment.
It reminds me of what William Blake said...If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thru' narrow chinks of his cavern."
(http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/2653)

[shaunclo]

To me, nothing is comparable to mother H. Its packs the biggest punch and makes everything else you have a waste. Whenever I have some morph or Oxy or other pharmies around and I think I am content with them, I always seem to stumble across some H, then when the H runs out, I just dont even care about the other shit I have any more, cause to me, it would just be a complete H tease.

[jab]

Exactly!

And the rush from banging oxy is completely week compared to H. Not even close!

To me, nothing is comparable to mother H. Its packs the biggest punch and makes everything else you have a waste. Whenever I have some morph or Oxy or other pharmies around and I think I am content with them, I always seem to stumble across some H, then when the H runs out, I just dont even care about the other shit I have any more, cause to me, it would just be a complete H tease.

[bronyraur]

Given the choice between the two, I would pick H for all out euphoria, or OC if I wanted to be productive. In my experience I can get decent euphoria with a high enough dose of OC, but it can't compare H. But if I really had the option, I'd go for my personal favorite, IV Dilaudid. But that's a whole 'nother topic.

[RobOC]

H definently takes the cake. I used oxy for a long time before I discovered the blissfull punch that is packed in a small chunk of tar. After about three yearsof using OC, being prescribed MScontin, and Percs; nothing but H would do the trick. Sure I could load up a 240 mg issue of oxy but that is very expesive, contains alot of pill binders and whatnot, and still would not give me half the rush or euphoria that I got from H. Surely there are alot of variables that could be played out to make a difference in the two drugs effects; such as quality of dope or concentration of the oxy soloution. However, that seems alot more complicated than just scoreing a bag and getting off.........God, I love Heroin..............

[shaunclo]

However, that seems alot more complicated than just scoreing a bag and getting off.........God, I love Heroin..............

ROMFLAO!! pretty good there Rob

[Darthvarga]

Wow... looks like H wins by a landslide.

[PantyShot9]

One morning when i aquired some H and managed to save a little for the next morning, i experienced the best euphoria. Everyone was gone so i went at it, all of it. It was a sunny day so i sat out in the front yard and experienced the ultimate in euphoria, everything was clear and beautifull, perfection it was like nirvana an enlightenment of sorts. I never reached the peak again, maybe i will soon but who knows cause im happy that was just a hi point of my life even if it was just for a few moments. In all my years since then with other Opiates, especially Oxycontin i havent hit that same ceiling. Dont get me wrong there have been great and sometimes enlightening times but not like the Diacetylmorphine. I guess that has to do with the comparison...Maybe the Euphoria is just much more powerfull, probably is. I dont do H...i have but i dont, im not saying i wont...but im happy with my prescribed regimen. I dont know i just thought id like to share that moment of my life...the H made everything so crystal clear for a moment.
It reminds me of what William Blake said...If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thru' narrow chinks of his cavern."


Try Dilaudid I'm sure you'll be pleasently suprised you'll have to bang it though. I used to think H was the best too until I met Lady D which is like Heroin times 10 when it comes to euphoria but in opiate equivalency charts which only figure in analgesic strenth it says Dilaudid is about 3 times stronger. Amazing fucking rush and it fells a lot like H in my opinion. It's nickname is drugstore heroin it is great get your hands on some but if you're not gonna bang don't bother I guess.

[PRIZEFIGHTERINFERNO]

Try Dilaudid I'm sure you'll be pleasently suprised you'll have to bang it though. I used to think H was the best too until I met Lady D which is like Heroin times 10 when it comes to euphoria but in opiate equivalency charts which only figure in analgesic strenth it says Dilaudid is about 3 times stronger. Amazing fucking rush and it fells a lot like H in my opinion. It's nickname is drugstore heroin it is great get your hands on some but if you're not gonna bang don't bother I guess.
oooohhhh yesssss my friend i have had my day with the 8milliedillie. It too was a great experience...especially since it was with my wife and my best chick friend. We gave this lady with a fractured foot a ride from the pharmacy and she hooked me up reallll nice.

[PantyShot9]

oooohhhh yesssss my friend i have had my day with the 8milliedillie. It too was a great experience...especially since it was with my wife and my best chick friend. We gave this lady with a fractured foot a ride from the pharmacy and she hooked me up reallll nice.

See I don't know what it is about D but I have found nothing that beats that rush I have had good H that comes close or at times is just as good but the H rush has never surpassed the D rush for me but drugs' effects are different for everyone I guess.

[PantyShot9]

Dammit I can't post a new thread so I'm gonna put it in here it does apply to what this thread is about tho. Ok it didn't look like my other thread took, if it did just delete this one or something. What does IV oxycodone feel like? I once read that it was comparable to H but this was from a medical study on IV oxy and they may have just been talking about analgesia and not euphoria. Is it at least as euphoric or more euphoric as or than morphine? With my D tolerance I'll probably hardly feel it because I only have one 5 mg immidiate release tablet but hopefully before I get home to my rigs tomorrow I can get at least one more but it's my grandma's post-operative pain meds for her knee surgery and I had to beg her for even one even though I explained to her the only reason there aren't refills on the bottle is because it's a schedule 2 drug which she didn't understand plus I'll have Tigan to go with it. If I can I may just go searching but I wouldn't take more than 3 more because I know she needs them.

[CUBErt]

Oxy...speedy happy clean the floor time
Heroin...smacky dopey nod the fuck out time...



Well put. Oxy is a drug I would prefer to do before work, where as H would be the drug I'd like to come home to at night. :)

[antigonemuse]

i gotta jump in here

a little late, yes... but thats my M.O.

i spent years searching for momma H... and found it... spent many years on poppa oc... this just kinda found me (with detailed instructions on how to abuse... thank you Dr. so and so)

i have to admit, please dont slay me down.... i have favored my oc... not the initial rush mind you... but the over all intensity of the high... H is great, and the rush is just about the best out there... but the tolerance builds so quick (like in hours)... and the uncertianty of the content...

OC always leaves me speedy (until night, then nod country).... well, i have been known to nod at work, and the keyboard hurts when you smash your head on it... i can toot alot less oc to get off, and shoot less to get a rush...

but god love it... gimmes some hydromorph... 16mg to the vein... thats where the real rush is at...

give it a few hours, and a little soft.... im drooling....

[insaneike]

Oxycodone con NOT in NO WAY compare to euporia of heroIN!!! DOn't be concieved b todays kids saying 'oc, legal heroin' bull fkn shit! NOTHING the same! Hell good dope pwnz my fentanyl! jesus lol. but oxy is good, heroin WAYYYY better.


now hydromorphone doesn't even have the euhoria of REAL good heroin folks... the only pharm I can think of that 'might' have the euphoria(not anagesic wffects) is oxymorphone..

later

[Hammilton]

i dunno. i didn't like oxymorphone. It was way more fucking work than it was worth. It wasn't as good as hydromorphone or smack. meh

[PantyShot9]

I've done really good H iv'd and it felt no better than iv'ing a bunch of Morphine which in my opinion doesn't compare to D.

[devilsdrug]

evein i hav memories of long ago blk tar , iranian , china from namorthai its number one .............

[Bastian]

H is definitely way better than oxy. I don't get what's the big deal with oxycontin (oxycodone)? It basically is like hydrocodone in my experience, but with more hype. Percs are just like vics and feel just like them and I would suppose that a controlled release hydrocodone would be just like oxycontin, I don't see a difference between the two. Oxycontin gives me a headache everytime I take it and lasts for like 1 hour tops, sometimes I just get a little buzz for like 30 minutes and than it's gone.
Morphine is way better in my experience. It lasts much longer and the effects are more intense (when you take enough).

[johnny27]

Maybe someone could explain this to me. Ppl talk about different types of H. I don't just mean different like brown powder H, or Mex Tar.
Like DD said, like the difference china H or Iranian. So ppl reckon one is better than the others. How can this be?

Since their all supposebly diacetylmorphine, maybe just in varying amounts, so why is one better than the other if you can take just more or one, to get the effect a more pure product give?

I'm guessing, the difference may be not just purity (more dia M) but the chemcials that come along with acetylation of morphine. As maybe some products have more 6mam or 2mam, as well as the dia M, or maybe some still have unreated morphine in them
So am i rite in suggesting it ain't just purity?

[johnny27]

i mean purity as in the amount of true diacetylmorphine?

[dorje]

Which do you like Zinfadel or Cabernet? They have the same amount of alcohol so get you just as drunk. In terms of purity, Vientanamese Heroin was the best I had. Who knows maybe some can tell slight differences in H like a wine taster?

[johnny27]

well you've kinda confirmed abit of what i said. All the different products have H, why do ppl say this one was best, since they all have H, and its not just how much H is in it, since you could use more or less.

But i'm gathering that some brands are producing better effects than others for different ppl.
For example ppl say, "yeah this batch was more dreamy than batch X" Surely thats not down to just have more H in your system" is there other vairables than just a hit having more H?

Is it possible some products have more different alkoloids producing different variations of effect like i mentioned in my last post, like unreacted shit and partly acteyled mam chemicals?

[Bastian]

Actually, sometimes the "heroin" we buy on the streets is actually nothing but pure morphine (but no one really notices the difference, since heroin and morphine IV'ed or snorted are identical). I have even come accros dope that may have been nothing but crushed up dilaudid, sold as "heroin".

[Opiyum]

Actually, sometimes the "heroin" we buy on the streets is actually nothing but pure morphine (but no one really notices the difference, since heroin and morphine IV'ed or snorted are identical). I have even come accros dope that may have been nothing but crushed up dilaudid, sold as "heroin".
Snorting Dilaudid and Morphine is nowhere near the high of snorting some good dope in almost all of their pill forms.
I would know in a heartbeat if it was D or M instead of H.

[chemboy7]

I think it would make more sense to sell the Hydromorphone as itself... probably make more money on it.

[CUBErt]

Yea possibly... In any case there are much worse ways to get ripped off then getting Dilaudid sold as heroin.... at least you are getting a strong opiate

[Bastian]

Snorting Dilaudid and Morphine is nowhere near the high of snorting some good dope in almost all of their pill forms.
I would know in a heartbeat if it was D or M instead of H.

Yes, when the pills are crushed and snorted it may be different, but what I am saying is pure morphine straight out of iran, afghan or any source country. A lot of the times the "heroin" sold on the streets is nothing but pure morphine (not pills crushed). You would never notice the difference between pure morphine powder or diamorphine powder sniffed or IV'd because they both hit fast and hit hard with identical effects. I ran across this article once in a newspaper. Basically it was saying that lab tested "heroin" samples from new york city, baltimore and philly actually turned out to be pure morphine cut with other bullshit. You never know what you are getting exactly.

[Opiyum]

Yes, when the pills are crushed and snorted it may be different, but what I am saying is pure morphine straight out of iran, afghan or any source country. A lot of the times the "heroin" sold on the streets is nothing but pure morphine (not pills crushed). You would never notice the difference between pure morphine powder or diamorphine powder sniffed or IV'd because they both hit fast and hit hard with identical effects. I ran across this article once in a newspaper. Basically it was saying that lab tested "heroin" samples from new york city, baltimore and philly actually turned out to be pure morphine cut with other bullshit. You never know what you are getting exactly.

Okay so I typed a whole reply but when i tried to post it it erased the message and forwarded me to the "Quote Reply" page. Anyway in summary no the effects of Morph and Dia-Morph are not Identical. If they were then Dreser would have thrown his invention in the trash from the get go. Maybe not now with my current tolerance but years ago I definately would have been pissed at not getting the H that I was looking for in fact it happened many a time.
Just so you know the fact that you never know what your going to get when on the streets buying drugs is not NEWS to anyone on this site save for a few.
I get what your saying now that you've elaborated a little but what you said earlier was a little lacking in the area of information. I just thought when you said "crushed up dilaudid" that you were talking about pills on the "whole".

[chemboy7]

You would never notice the difference between pure morphine powder or diamorphine powder sniffed or IV'd because they both hit fast and hit hard with identical effects.

This isn't exactly true, Heroin delivers Morphine arcossed the BBB faster... that's the whole point of going the extra mile and converting Morphine to Herion. The high may be comparable (I wouldn't know, having never tried Heroin) but Heroin is definately faster.

[Bastian]

Yes, heroin is quicker, but by how much? When you IV morphine or heroin, the effects are felt as soon as the drug reaches your brain. The difference in speed is not significant when you IV either of the drugs, few seconds. You have to remember that when you do heroin, you are actually high on morphine. Heroin is a pro-drug, meaning it exists only in the external form (once inside you, it is morphine that gets you fukked up). Basically, heroin is a like "boat" or "plane" carrying morphine to it's destination a little faster than morphine would make it on it's own.

[Blind Melon]

If I eat OC it lasts way longer than if I smoke heroin. Like other people have said, oxycodone is a more energetic high. You can actually get shit done on it. It makes me way more productive. Heroin is a purely hethonistic high. You are't going to do anything productive, you are going to nod out. I love both, probably the same. But I choose H because you get way more bang for your buck. If I was an IV user, I'm sure I would go with H. The good thing about OC, as others have said, is the consistant product. To each their own, but I can definitely see the pro's and con's in either drug--- if both were free I'd have a hard time choosing. Depends on the situation.

[nick]

Shooting M is a completely different beast than H.Within seconds of shooting M powder or pills I get a heat rash which is not pleasant,but is a damn sight better than not shooting M. H is a different trip,no rash and diamorph lasts nowhere near as long as street M/pills
I guess all that really matters is they both get you high.

[devilsdrug]

STOP , anybody who says mophine and h are the same does not no what they are sayin , it is very easy to tell the difference when ivin , my info doenot come out of a book newpaper , u can tell different heroins for instance china has a distinct ether call that is wonderful but different from the super warm fuzzys of the blackest tar no one is better for me i luv it all , but no bullshit about iv morph and h the same what a bunch of crap for anyone to say that if still could id zap pts from the poor misfortunate soul who believes that crap

[CUBErt]

I know I wouldn't wanna get zapped by devil!

But yea about morph/h being the same thing, they are similar but not the same thing. There's a reason people seek H more than just morphine. And if shooting H was just the same as shooting morphine drug cartels would save a bunch of money on lab equipment for converting to heroin, they'd just extract the opium poppies and just leave it as morphine.

[orangejuice]

GOddamn lol! that shit is fucking hilarious MR. Devil.

[Opiyum]

STOP , anybody who says mophine and h are the same does not no what they are sayin , it is very easy to tell the difference when ivin , my info doenot come out of a book newpaper , u can tell different heroins for instance china has a distinct ether call that is wonderful but different from the super warm fuzzys of the blackest tar no one is better for me i luv it all , but no bullshit about iv morph and h the same what a bunch of crap for anyone to say that if still could id zap pts from the poor misfortunate soul who believes that crap
I only wish I could have said it like you DD but in order to do that I'd have to be a bitter old man. Heh...No but all ass kissing and ball busting aside I wish I had as much experience with different types of dope as you do. It's just not possible for me currently. In order to do it I'd have to move all over the country and...world i guess.

Though I am starting to talk to a few of the mexicans at work about tar. Something I have yet to try.