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duck
03-10-2010, 03:44 PM
I have a question about harm reduction/safe injecting.

Completely hypothetically, would it be safe to shoot the smallest amount of someone's ashes? Like, after they've been cremated? Do you think just a little fluff of the stuff would be water soluble enough to IV? If not could you add some citric acid?

I know it sounds sick and fucked up and I would never try it -- but it's at least a cool idea for a movie or something...like, if the love of my life were to die -- I would add just a dash of ashes in a giant shot of gear to have her in me forever.

edit: also, aside from solubility, would there be a way to sterilize the ashes? what do you think the chances of abscess would be?

nick
03-10-2010, 03:47 PM
Oddly,I've never considered this and I'm not going to start thinking about it now-sorry,man.


BUT,this reminds me of the April fool's routine of Keff Richards snorting his dad's ashes.

Thanat0s
03-10-2010, 03:50 PM
dude, ashes are already gonna be sterile...

fire right?

im sure youve shot worse stuff than ashes.
id be down i guess...

mix some dope with em and you couldnt keep me from shooting em...

is this really a HR question tho?
:rolleyes:



edit:
re:solubility in water?
dont think somuch,
wouldnt stop some from getting in a rig tho.

make some burnt meat/bone ash and see if soluble?
im at my parents house and no rigs,
not that i much wish to try to explain to them wtf im doing...
burning meat for injection.

theyve been thru enough,
im sure you can imagine.

underide
03-10-2010, 04:16 PM
try smoking some cob-webs mate

I have...so far - not much

But all of us being different individuals with various physiology/metabolisms, maybe you'll have better success with it :confused: :)

chopstix
03-10-2010, 06:21 PM
Like Than said, it'd be sterile, you're just gonna get grey water once it goes through a cotton (yuk)..

To be honest if I saw that in a movie, I'd probably laugh.. Maybe a better idea would be chasing the remains with some proper whisky?? I could probably be convinced to have one more drink with my friend..

My $.02..

duck
03-10-2010, 06:44 PM
Yeah it's a really retarded and weird idea....my favorite kind. And I just wanted to make sure that if anyone was looking up "injecting human remains" on google they would see this thread and would then hopefully join. we need more freaks.

methadoniac1972
03-10-2010, 07:02 PM
I TRIED IV'NG DUST BUNNIES ONCE...NOW I GOT A 3 PACK A DAY CARROT HABIT. SERIOUSLY THOUGH, DUDE..ASHES?? I GUESS IT IS POSSIBLE. I WOULD BE MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE PARANORMAL OCUCRENCES LIKE WOULD THE PERSONS GHOST HAUNT YOUR SOUL FROM THE INSIDE OF YOUR FEMORAL ARTERY?? :rolleyes:

Score_K4
03-10-2010, 07:13 PM
Maybe this should be in the Sick and Twisted Minds Forum? Harm reduction is for people who want to shoot up opioids. I have a feeling that it is not for people to shoot up ashes hoping that there traces of alkaloids in a person's system. This is right up there with injecting Vitamin C hoping for a dilly rush.

More Feen
03-10-2010, 07:15 PM
Uh, filter it through a 0.22um wheel filter, anything that made it past that, probably won't be too bad,but.., jeez--why?

M F

PS- Oh, crematoria will tell you that not all of the ashes are part of the person, some are from the "box" and maybe clothes they had on. Some bone fragments/teeth remain afterwards. Don't try to inject those things, eh?

underide
03-10-2010, 07:22 PM
Maybe this should be in the Sick and Twisted Minds Forum? Harm reduction is for people who want to shoot up opioids. I have a feeling that it is not for people to shoot up ashes hoping that there traces of alkaloids in a person's system. This is right up there with injecting Vitamin C hoping for a dilly rush.

i dont think OP was really serious about this, mate

then again - you just never know :)

hovadagod
03-10-2010, 07:38 PM
I think it's kinda dumb duck. It's not like heroin stays in you forever when you inject it so I can't see why ashes would be any different.:rolleyes:

duck
03-10-2010, 08:16 PM
The fact that I have gotten serious responses to this as not being a good idea is why I love this forum -- that people think that I would seriously try this! Pure gold. It's just a fantasy. Like when I think about porking your sisters.

nick
03-10-2010, 08:34 PM
The fact that I have gotten serious responses to this as not being a good idea is why I love this forum -- that people think that I would seriously try this! Pure gold. It's just a fantasy. Like when I think about porking your sisters.

Um I'm not sure folks believing you capable of injecting human remains is a good thing,bro.I guess it has an upside........I just can't think of it.

Oh and I'm an only child.

More Feen
03-10-2010, 08:44 PM
The fact that I have gotten serious responses to this as not being a good idea is why I love this forum -- that people think that I would seriously try this! Pure gold. It's just a fantasy. Like when I think about porking your sisters.


You better not touch my sisters!!

M F
(puffing up)

Dhedmo
03-10-2010, 08:55 PM
Maybe a better idea would be chasing the remains with some proper whisky?? I could probably be convinced to have one more drink with my friend.

^This.

And This ~V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sp-VFBbjpE

harmonik
03-10-2010, 10:33 PM
Maybe this should be in the Sick and Twisted Minds Forum? Harm reduction is for people who want to shoot up opioids. I have a feeling that it is not for people to shoot up ashes hoping that there traces of alkaloids in a person's system. This is right up there with injecting Vitamin C hoping for a dilly rush.

did he say he hoped there were trace alkaloids? yeah right, like there'd be alkaloids after being incinerated. are you fucking kidding me? stop assuming and learn to read. . he said add the shot WITH some gear.. he was being more or less symbolic.. like taking your dead loved one on a ride with some H..


personally, i think the idea is kickass, but it IMO would have to be:
a) a REAL loved one (ie: significant other for me)
b) a loved one with a love for dope as much as you
c) ONCE and only ONE time only.. any time after that, you're fuckin' addicted to the incinerating necrophoria ;))

Now, if it's possible to "boil off" contaminants at boiling temperatures after a certain amount of time, it would be realistic to assume that temperatures greatly exceeding that for an even longer period of time (cremation) would get rid of them all. so if it were kept air-tight and never opened just to be sure..

from wikipedia:


Cremated remains are mostly dry calcium phosphates with some minor minerals, such as salts of sodium and potassium. Sulfur and most carbon is driven off as oxidized gases during the process, although a relatively small amount of carbon as carbonate may remain.
are any of these things dangerous for your body? gotta find that out..

I thought cremation turned ya into 100% carbon, and boy was i wrong.

If I were doing this (and I probably never will), i'd take a scoop the size of a BB or pencil lead out, put it in a sterile spoon, add .05cc iso alcohol, and let evap.. then, add gear, add water, shoot.

I've dropped part of a cig ash in a spoon before.. it was about the size of a BB when it fell, but most of the "ash" has pockets of air in it.. so it was even less than that amount. But cig ash prolly has different substances in it..

IIRC it made the water barely dark, barely murky around where it dropped but when mixed up, i could tell no difference b/t a normal solution and solution with ash..


all this talk about carbon makes me think of modest mouse..
"Dehydrate back into minerals, a life long walk to the same exact spot, carbon's anniversary..the parting of the sensory.. ... Someday you will die somehow and somethin's gonna steal your carbon, someday somethin' will die and somehow you'll figure out how often you will die somehow and somethin's gonna steal the carbon.."


ps: awesome thread, a perfect addition to my rendezvous love-hate relationship with xanax tonight ;))

Thanat0s
03-10-2010, 10:51 PM
Um I'm not sure folks believing you capable of injecting human remains is a good thing,bro.I guess it has an upside........I just can't think of it.

Oh and I'm an only child.
i am ALSO an only child...

funny, no?

GimpLeg
03-11-2010, 12:02 AM
Some bone fragments/teeth remain afterwards. Don't try to inject those things, eh?


I'd take a shot with a few of my friend's ashes in it. or maybe smoke bone fragments.

I woudln't do this to a friend (well, maybe) but I'd even try human meat if it were all prepared and stuff.

Uncle Wiggly
03-11-2010, 12:06 AM
We are stardust, we are golden.
We are billion-year-old carbon.
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden.

"Woodstock" ~ Joni Mitchell

HandMeSomeOpiates
03-11-2010, 12:07 AM
I can see the movie now "Psycho 2: The Obsessed Junky"

Cherry's Jubilee
03-11-2010, 06:23 AM
Thread Title of the YEAR!

Import
03-11-2010, 06:31 AM
Carbon is not water soluable. Therfore if you actualy injected the ash (w/out filtering it outta the shot) you'd probly be putting yourself in some degree of risk.
Be a cool tribute to someone tho...at least if they were supportive of you being an IV drug abuser.

Lol Id imagine if this were the sort if thing you were serious about trying duck, you woulda died long ago! And the human species takes another lil step forward.

blackman
03-11-2010, 06:52 AM
Come, duck! We have a research date to plan and some hefty experiments to perform!

To science!!

The_Chef
03-11-2010, 08:14 AM
Not gonna happen. Snorting (hey, it allegedly worked for Keith Richards) and plugging (why not, because if you are even thinking about this you've shown a propensity towards being a sick motherfucker that far exceeds any form of anal penetration) are probably your best bets.

Paregoric Kid
03-11-2010, 10:36 AM
somehow I just don't think shoving a loved ones ashes up your ass doesn't seem as fitting and romantic a tribute as shooting, sniffing, or drinking a loved ones ashes. the calcium, phosphate, sodium, and potassium should dissolve in water. I'd probably just sniff it though, they say the human soul has a high intranasal bioavailability lol
sure it sounds a little cannibalistic or crazy but I dig the symbolism of having someone you loved becoming absorbed and a part of you. I've considered having my friends do a line of my ashes with some kickass drugs if I die lol

duck
03-11-2010, 11:02 AM
Thread Title of the YEAR!

(that was a secret sub agenda...and this thread just got so much better since yesterday) :p:D

Thanat0s
03-11-2010, 11:16 AM
I've considered having my friends do a line of my ashes with some kickass drugs if I die lol



IF?

id say its a safe bet to plan for an eventual death.

you could save up a bunch of scabs and blood to incinerate,
just in case someone who isnt hip to recreation corpse use is in charge of your remains...

guess ya cant cold shake or dry shot...

im not even gonna mention what thoughts this thread has started running thru my head.
i even had a complete urn full of a strangers ashes at my disposal last year,
i chose to simply desecrate the remains,
as it was no friend...

nvrmnd.

harmonik
03-11-2010, 11:41 AM
shit, if anything, drop it in a piece of paper with some crushed OC and drop it down yer throat. i don't think it's cannibalistic at all..
more like canniballistic LOL AMIRITE? :o

edhorfin
03-11-2010, 11:55 AM
I know you can have your loved ones' ashes turned into a diamond. Maybe geez a little "daddy diamond dust"?

If you missed, you could feel a "little lump of loved one" for some time!

Maybe just have your loved one mixed with tatt ink and wear them forever....now that idea has some legs....

duck
03-11-2010, 12:49 PM
If you missed, you could feel a "little lump of loved one" for some time!



lmao!! I have been getting a good laugh outta that.

clonaze-whammed
03-11-2010, 01:18 PM
plugging a loved one's ashes?
I love this site.

underide
03-11-2010, 04:56 PM
plugging a loved one's ashes?
I love this site.

no you don't =P

not for this reason i don't think...and i KNOW :o

Locke
03-11-2010, 05:04 PM
I'm sure this has been said before in this thread, but it would be carbon. Therefore, the purely symbolic act of injecting human remains would be logistically irrelevant and ideally hilarious. Especially if you pleasured yourself directly after doing it.

duck
03-11-2010, 05:06 PM
I'm sure this has been said before in this thread, but it would be carbon. Therefore, the purely symbolic act of injecting human remains would be logistically irrelevant and ideally hilarious. Especially if you pleasured yourself directly after doing it.

Yeah you're right I think I'll just plug 'em.

Locke
03-11-2010, 05:12 PM
Make sure you tweet about it too

EDIT: And take pictures

DOUBLE EDIT: Just read Harmonik's post explaining that remains are not merely carbon. It was long but it's worth reading.

Billy the kid
03-11-2010, 07:33 PM
i am ALSO an only child...
funny, no?
Me too! Maybe there is some correlation between addiction and being an only child.

HandMeSomeOpiates
03-11-2010, 08:10 PM
Me too! Maybe there is some correlation between addiction and being an only child.
I have 2 brothers who are not addicts. But me on the other hand am definitely a lover of my opies(AKA: addict):o..... so I debunk that :p

Indy
03-11-2010, 08:51 PM
It's always easy to see who hasn't been on the internet for very long, because they don't get internet humor. Occasionally someone will say something purposely ridiculous like "HAY D00D I HEER IF U SHOOT UP STRAIGHT INTO UR BONES ITS CRAZY AWESOME" and a well-intentioned, possibly smart but naive poster will say "don't do that, it's a bad idea". I'm not trying to insult anyone, and I'm not saying it makes you stupid, but sometimes I see people taking certain posts on here seriously and I can hardly believe my own eyes.

EDIT: fun fact: there actually is such a thing as intraosseous injection (into the bone).

Brony
03-11-2010, 09:22 PM
This is the best thread I've seen in a long while. :D

More Feen
03-11-2010, 09:27 PM
I have 2 brothers who are not addicts. But me on the other hand am definitely a lover of my opies(AKA: addict):o..... so I debunk that :p


Perhaps your brothers ARE addicts, but they simply hide it, very, very well??

M F

harmonik
03-12-2010, 11:34 AM
Cremated remains are mostly dry calcium phosphates with some minor minerals, such as salts of sodium and potassium. Sulfur and most carbon is driven off as oxidized gases during the process, although a relatively small amount of carbon as carbonate may remain.very little carbon :(

how do they turn the ashes into diamonds if theres such a small amount of carbon? or is the "small" amount proportional to the other chemicals and still enough to make a diamond?

shit's interesting/

edhorfin
03-12-2010, 06:01 PM
I'm one of 5 kids. All of us got high in some way, one brother and I use to shoot up together, one sister too.

I would NOT shove any of them up my ass though.

This thread is a very long humor setup.....Fuck up this ashes shot, get a clot, go to the ER and explain that "clots run in the family"...

I could go on for a while with funny shit thinking about this, but dont have time right now.

underide
03-12-2010, 06:22 PM
I could go on for a while with funny shit thinking about this, but dont have time right now.
you sure your not just lacking in creativity and/or imagination?? ;) :p

irish
03-12-2010, 06:38 PM
I know that people have had ashes mixed into tattoo ink. I think that would be a much better tribute than injecting them. Also a good bit safer.

Opie I. T.
03-12-2010, 06:58 PM
I'm fairly certain that the thread title is a name of a death metal song and or band :D

Metrik
03-12-2010, 07:57 PM
if it isnt a band/song name it should be!
and i am soo happy i found this site and didnt just breeze past it you guys and gals provide hours of laughter

clonaze-whammed
03-13-2010, 03:42 AM
not for this reason i don't think...and i KNOW :o

Just when I think the internet cant suprise me anymore - I read a thread discussing the merits of plugging a love one's remains. Priceless.

candy
03-13-2010, 07:32 AM
I don't even know how to reply in terms of harm reduction....Let me say though....It is just a sick thought!

Locke
03-14-2010, 03:53 AM
I assume you've done it already, Duck? How did it go? If you haven't done it yet, may I suggest that while it's happening, you whisper the word "forever" please.

tui
03-14-2010, 04:39 AM
...just have to say duck, i love the title of this thread!! genius. :p

port rhombus
03-15-2010, 04:28 PM
DUDE WAT R U SOM KIND OF CANNIBLE!

hero 1
03-15-2010, 04:40 PM
ha ya go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKClSYpgKtQ

duck
03-15-2010, 04:54 PM
DUDE WAT R U SOM KIND OF CANNIBLE!


Yes, my friend, yes I am! Would you like to purchase my new book, Duck's The Cannibible?

The_Chef
03-17-2010, 08:22 PM
Well, there is the band Human Remains. Pretty good tech-grindcore stuff from the 90's that was pretty groundbreaking and influential. One of about a thousand bands the fabulous Dave Witte has drummed for.

Opie I. T.
03-17-2010, 09:02 PM
Well, there is the band Human Remains. Pretty good tech-grindcore stuff from the 90's that was pretty groundbreaking and influential. One of about a thousand bands the fabulous Dave Witte has drummed for.

haha yeah, thats what popped into my head when i saw this thread. need to go dig that disc out. havent heard it in awhile...

blackman
03-18-2010, 02:16 AM
Duck, my friend, you know this is just classic addiction substitution.

You'll stop doing opies just to find yourself fixing up an ash shot a few months down the road. Or chowin down on some grade A homo sapien.

Cope with the cravings, bro. You gotta learn to cope.

Chemical_Boy
03-18-2010, 04:23 AM
...like, if the love of my life were to die -- I would add just a dash of ashes in a giant shot of gear to have her in me forever...


This is like sicko stalker crazy weird....



That is definitely probably a little too codependent and clingy for most normal people...