DEA MICROGRAM HOT OFF THE PRESS...

[Zoop]

June DEA Microgram is out -

http://www.dea.gov/programs/forensicsci/microgram/mg0606/mg0606.html

(seems like they publish each issue after the month is over, instead of before, like most periodicals, prolly b/c it's a summary of notable drug busts from the previous month)

anyways, in every single one of the past, oh I'd say, six issues, there has been something about this underground-produced bulk fentanyl, sold in powder form - I guess it's like 99.9% lactose or some kind of "cut" material, because it don't take much fent to put ya on the nod - less than a milligram - I'd say, from experience, that 100 - 200 micrograms (0.1-0.2mg) is enough to do the job. If that was pure fentanyl, it would be a piece smaller than the point (the sharp part) of a pin - not the head of the pin, the point.

My question is this: Has anyone had the pleasure of getting any of this wonderful shit and using it? Problem has been that the stuff is getting passed off as H, and people are fucking dying from it because they don't now it's fent. I guess they taste it and they say, "I can't even taste the shit, so it must be really stepped on. I guess I'll bang a little extra."

What say you?

Hey - check out the second described case (second one down the page) They confiscated a baggy containing "suspected cocaine" (probably looks like coke in its texture and color), which turned out to be fucking over 900 grams of 83% pure fentanyl ! Christ! That would be a lifetime supply for a dozen junkies!

[ZodiacKiller]

I'd love to try some of this shit. My dealer is always telling me when he has a new batch and when he thinks it's gonna be stronger than the last, he'll say "watch out fo' dis shit--it be strong, dude". I think he wants to keep 'his favorite white boy' around to keep sales up ('cause I move a lot of shit for him).

Sucks about people being uninformed and dying, that is horrible-- no two ways about it---but that still doesn't mean I wouldn't give it a shot. Just my $.02.


ZK

[devilsdrug]

ive talked about this before but back in the late seventies or early eighties i dont remember we got this stuff every day , it came cut to shit in balloon , it wasnt long u could tell it wasnt real h it didnt last as long , u built up habit tolerance quicker and the kick was harsher but over sooner yea people died an then the paper said what it was , then we started gettin it like the china white by the gram for 400$ a little cheaper anyway some people exhibit parkinsons symptoms after injecting , iv seen it more than once , last maybe 5 to 10 min spookier than hell. but that didnt stop em and didnt seem to happen every time to the same person

[alowishus]

"The DEA micrograms are here, The DEA micrograms are here, I'm somebody now...........":D


I feel for the guy who was jonesin' for some coke bad, thought he had a pretty nice baggie and WHAM!!! almost died.

[Zoop]

I know. I thought that was fucked up too - kine like in Pulp Fiction when that chick thought John Travolta's bag was full of coke and she od'd on it sniffing some.

Anyways, about that parkinsons's shit. I think that china white you're talkin about DD, was some shit that is like a form of demerol, only stronger - that's the one I heard made people get all jerky and shit.

I could never do demerols and not get all stuttery myself. I learned and never fucked with that shiite again, but the couple times I did, I couldn't even put together a sentence without stuttering real bad. It was fucked up.

[chemboy7]

Anyways, about that parkinsons's shit. I think that china white you're talkin about DD, was some shit that is like a form of demerol, only stronger - that's the one I heard made people get all jerky and shit.

I could never do demerols and not get all stuttery myself. I learned and never fucked with that shiite again, but the couple times I did, I couldn't even put together a sentence without stuttering real bad. It was fucked up.

MPTP, if I remember correctly, tainted in a batch of MPPP.

And yes, Demerol is Dummy Oil... that shit can be neurotoxic and the high is sub-par compared to other Opaites.

[Zoop]

MPTP, if I remember correctly, tainted in a batch of MPPP.

And yes, Demerol is Dummy Oil... that shit can be neurotoxic and the high is sub-par compared to other Opaites.

I knew that when I wrote my comment, that Chemboy would chime in! I knew it! Yeah, the stuttering with high-dose meperidine that I experienced, is from the desmethyl metabolite, which kind of acts like a stimulant. Can cause seizures. This seems to be common property of several of the totally synthetic opioid drugs - propoxyphene and tramadol caused a similar reaction in me. I guess I'm a little sensitive to the buildup of metabolites from those drugs, maybe my liver is a fast metabolizer for that demethylation reaction or something.

But, I remember when I was working in a pharmacy in college. After working all day on a Saturday, my routine for a while, was to come home and pop 300mg of demerol (six of the 50mg tablets), and smoke a fat bowl. Nice.

[jab]

Am I the only person who saw humor in this title "COCAINE IN WICKER BASKETS (FROM PERU) AT THE GEORGE
BUSH INTERCONTINENTAL AIRPORT, HOUSTON, TEXAS"? :D

GB >> coke habit >> hehe

Oh well.. I though it was funny.

[alowishus]

Well the July issue is out and let me be the 1st to say I'm very upset w/ the DEA, must have been a slow month, which means good things for others, but it's pretty lame......other then the 660,000 xtc pills in one bust, say goodbye Bobby.:(

[chemboy7]

Yeah your right not much to brag about on this one. Those massive blocks of coke in the Aztec statue where kinda cool though, and this is one of the most detailed presses I have seen on a roll:

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3559/mg0706fig12pn3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[alowishus]

Oh I know, I had to keep looking, that was some heavy weight behind that press, the die maker must have been using his product when he was carving ..... I still want to have some of those , I mean just to look at you see....I don't do drugs.


To this day I still don't get the TV ad, "This is your brain," cracks egg into pan, "this is your brain on drugs!"

When your on drugs you get the muchies, I can get behind that....but what are you trying to say spell it out for me, I'm a Gen X'er for fucks sake.

[blackdog]

Oh I know, I had to keep looking, that was some heavy weight behind that press, the die maker must have been using his product when he was carving ..... I still want to have some of those , I mean just to look at you see....I don't do drugs.


To this day I still don't get the TV ad, "This is your brain," cracks egg into pan, "this is your brain on drugs!"

When your on drugs you get the muchies, I can get behind that....but what are you trying to say spell it out for me, I'm a Gen X'er for fucks sake.
is u serious? or r u jus funnin me?
n e way...da answer iz....
fried!!! drugs do to your brain what a hot cooking pan will do to a couple of eggs= fry-em...kapisch?
peace da/dawgg:rolleyes:

[chemboy7]

Oh I know, I had to keep looking, that was some heavy weight behind that press, the die maker must have been using his product when he was carving ..... I still want to have some of those , I mean just to look at you see....I don't do drugs.

Yeah, that pill was definately a labor of love. I had assumed that the razzle dazzle would be a selling point, i.e. the pill was probably shitty but they knew that on looks alone they could charge a nice amount per pill as when people see a nice quality press they assume that the pills are probably really cool... I was wrong. I went through and read it all today (instead of just zoning out and looking at the pictures) and the pills wiegh about 320 mg each containing about 30% MDMA, off the top of my head that's what about 105-110 mg a bean. That's not a bad dose for 1 pill, I mean it's not spectacular or anything but no other drugs were reported to be included... so I would assume that they were really clean rolls (although that press would have to get those pills dense as hell, may take awhile to dissolve; I'd chew the bastards up). At 100 mg 3 pills would do the job right, I think I would have a hard time ingesting them when I got to the end though... they just look so fucking awsome.

[alowishus]

Well kiddies it's been that long again.......yup that's right the AUG. ED. is out.


*in Homer voice*

MMMMHHAAAAA MMMMMILK DUDS..........:D

[antony]

Yeah your right not much to brag about on this one. Those massive blocks of coke in the Aztec statue where kinda cool though, and this is one of the most detailed presses I have seen on a roll:

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3559/mg0706fig12pn3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It's Greek, not Aztec, look at the key on the circumference, in fact, look at the pic in my sig, bit sicilian, bit greek, allllll good.

[LayinLow]

It's Greek, not Aztec, look at the key on the circumference, in fact, look at the pic in my sig, bit sicilian, bit greek, allllll good.

Those are some sweet looking rolls though none the less. It would be a pity to buy some of them at a dark club where you couldn't see 'em too well. So you estimated 100mg/pill chem? Sounds yummy to me! ;) Some guy I know only does E maybe two times a year, but when he does it, ooooooo the feeling comes back to him like it was his first time.. or so he says. ;)

[antony]

Yea, I'd have to buy a couple and keep for special occasions. Never rolled before, but, it would be a shame to pop one of those before admiring the artwork.

[Levity]

Word is that there's coke powder on the streets here with a bit of fent mixed in.

Still no H on the streets though. Whivh makes me sad and my town retarded.

[edhorfin]

I knew that when I wrote my comment, that Chemboy would chime in! I knew it! Yeah, the stuttering with high-dose meperidine that I experienced, is from the desmethyl metabolite, which kind of acts like a stimulant. Can cause seizures. This seems to be common property of several of the totally synthetic opioid drugs - propoxyphene and tramadol caused a similar reaction in me. I guess I'm a little sensitive to the buildup of metabolites from those drugs, maybe my liver is a fast metabolizer for that demethylation reaction or something.

But, I remember when I was working in a pharmacy in college. After working all day on a Saturday, my routine for a while, was to come home and pop 300mg of demerol (six of the 50mg tablets), and smoke a fat bowl. Nice.


At some point in the 90's, even hospitals drastically reduced the use of demerol, as a result of clinical tests showing neurotoxicity. I'm a prolific kidney stone producer and have spent a lot of time in ERs around the country. When I first started getting stones, Demerol was the pain killer of choice. Now its either MS or Dilaudid. Sometimes I even ask for Toradol, which works great oin stone pain for me, but, of course no high, being an NSAID.The last time I went in, I was on Bupe, and knew no opiate would work, so I told them I had taken 4 mg of dilaudid from a scrip from a previous stone, with no effect, and requested the Toradol, which worked great. Since the stone showed up nicely on a regular KUB xray, the ER doc wrote me a scrip for 30 x 2mg Dilaudid. (I'm at this ER enough to know the docs)

I digress....demerol's rarely used anymore anywhere. I knd of liked the IM high. Hated it orally and wasn't real fond of IV (burns like hell).

[hero 1]

[quote=Zoop;30892]June DEA Microgram is out -

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My question is this: Has anyone had the pleasure of getting any of this wonderful shit and using it? Problem has been that the stuff is getting passed off as H, and people are fucking dying from it because they don't now it's fent. I guess they taste it and they say, "I can't even taste the shit, so it must be really stepped on. I guess I'll bang a little extra."


swim got some in chi town and his head was to heavy for his neck and he went through 17 bags in to days cause the buzz didnt last that long but he woud take more if he could get it best ten dollar bags yet

[Narkotikon]

It's Greek, not Aztec, look at the key on the circumference, in fact, look at the pic in my sig, bit sicilian, bit greek, allllll good.


Yeah, that's definately Grecian. The Greek-Key design around the edge, I can't really make out the tendriles along the hairline, but it could be Medusa. More likely Athena, perhaps Aphrodite, or even Hera or Artemis. Those are usually the biggest goddesses in the Greco-Roman mythos. And of course it could be Roman too, they were big on emulating Greek art, tweaking it, and making it their own.

[vaxn8]

Yea, I'd have to buy a couple and keep for special occasions. Never rolled before, but, it would be a shame to pop one of those before admiring the artwork.


Ant- I'm so glad to read there's another human who hasn't rolled! I thought I was the only one left! Don't know why, just don't really have the desire to. Not sure if I would if it was sitting in front of me. I guess I'm pretty much opi-exclusive- don't have much interest in other drugs.

[SpecialGuy69]

I've only rolled once in my life, so I'm almost there with ya guys. In college, when rolls were plentiful, I had just gotten over a few very bad LSD experiences in a row, I just didn't want to go near anything I wasn't used to. Now, I just feel like I'm too old for it. Remember the HBO special (I think it's called "HBO undercover" or something) on e? They had this old-ass man who was rolling with his 16 year old son, chewin on a binky and the whole bit. I'm only 27, but I'd already feel like a grandpa at a rave.

BTW the pic on those rolls isnt greek or aztec- it's the versace emblem.

[Narkotikon]

I've only rolled once in my life, so I'm almost there with ya guys. In college, when rolls were plentiful, I had just gotten over a few very bad LSD experiences in a row, I just didn't want to go near anything I wasn't used to. Now, I just feel like I'm too old for it. Remember the HBO special (I think it's called "HBO undercover" or something) on e? They had this old-ass man who was rolling with his 16 year old son, chewin on a binky and the whole bit. I'm only 27, but I'd already feel like a grandpa at a rave.

I know what you mean, people did / do crazy shit at raves. I've not been to one since I was 21, but still, even then it was ridiculous. Wide-eyed kids handing out blow-pops, random people offering to "blow you up," where they give you a glow-stick show in front of your eyes, and then take a Vic's inhaler and blow it over your face. Then there's the Vic's masks. What else????? Hmmmm.....random people asking if you want a massage. Just crazy shit. I'm a pretty shy person in public, and the thought of some random person giving me a massage gives me the creeps.

[SpecialGuy69]

yeah I used to sell nitrous at raves- stuff got really weird sometimes- grown men carrying teddy bears and shit, people just hugging randoms, etc. I never really dug the music that much, maybe that's why I didn't get into the scene.

[Narkotikon]

yeah I used to sell nitrous at raves- stuff got really weird sometimes- grown men carrying teddy bears and shit, people just hugging randoms, etc. I never really dug the music that much, maybe that's why I didn't get into the scene.

I was never really active in the scene, just went with friends sometimes. I did love the music though, well some of it. I really love hard trance, Nu NRG, hard house, and some D&B. But others I can't stand. I really can't stand Happy Hardcore. That is the most annoying shit in the world. And it was usually the tripped-out E-tards that liked it in my opinion. I dunno, maybe I wasn't sufficiently messed up to appreciate it. It just sounded like noise to me, and I hate it when people refer to music as noise.

[nick]

Ant- I'm so glad to read there's another human who hasn't rolled! I thought I was the only one left! Don't know why, just don't really have the desire to. Not sure if I would if it was sitting in front of me. I guess I'm pretty much opi-exclusive- don't have much interest in other drugs.
Vax,from one junky to another,give it ago.I snorted some the other day with my hit of M.Very nice.

[hero 1]

Vax,from one junky to another,give it ago.I snorted some the other day with my hit of M.Very nice.
I dissagree I treid that shit once and that was enough love drug my ass way to tweaky for me and I didnt want any one around just wanted to sit still and be left alone. I use to be like a lab rat In my younger days If some one said it gets you high I would try It and I would rather huff pam then do another hit of e

[Levity]

There's a report ECSTASY MIMIC TABLETS (CONTAINING AMPHETAMINE SULFATE)
IN GULFPORT, MISSISSIPPI about 2/3 down the page that kind of hit home. Hit home in the way that those pills, or, "Tasmanian Devil X" is selling big in my hometown. I hope the stupid ravers enjoying their Ampethamine.

[flipside]

Vax,from one junky to another,give it ago.I snorted some the other day with my hit of M.Very nice.


Vax, don't u dare. I know where to find you and I;ll tell your Mom (Ha ha LOL)

[flipside]

There's a report ECSTASY MIMIC TABLETS (CONTAINING AMPHETAMINE SULFATE)
IN GULFPORT, MISSISSIPPI about 2/3 down the page that kind of hit home. Hit home in the way that those pills, or, "Tasmanian Devil X" is selling big in my hometown. I hope the stupid ravers enjoying their Ampethamine.


Levity , guess your'e ok i'll assume you are fine since you are posting away, and that you don;t need to be talked out of anything at this point like you posted. if you do check your PM's.

Sorry for jacking the thread.

[vaxn8]

Now, I just feel like I'm too old for it. .

That's really pretty much where I am with it, I am older than you (by a little), but it seems so highschool and the descriptions I've read just make me say "WTF, you're paying for this?"

. Wide-eyed kids handing out blow-pops, random people offering to "blow you up," where they give you a glow-stick show in front of your eyes, and then take a Vic's inhaler and blow it over your face. Then there's the Vic's masks. What else????? Hmmmm.....random people asking if you want a massage. .

Exactly this stuff is what I was talking about. It just doesn't make sense to pay for something that makes me want people blowing vics in my eyes, that's just... don't know... wrong!

Vax,from one junky to another,give it ago.I snorted some the other day with my hit of M.Very nice.

Nick- like you did it by yourself? That's the one thing i was curious about- I don't like the freaky group activies associated with it, but wondered what it would be like with a smaller group or no people.


Vax, don't u dare. I know where to find you and I;ll tell your Mom (Ha ha LOL)

Ha! Dare me? Nah, I'm really not that interested in trying it at this stage. May happen some day, but there's just too much brain chem alteration caused by that drug that I don't even want to fuck with. It sounds like it is way too easy to cause long term damage. I also wouln't do well with a drug that you should only take occasionally. If I did like it, i would want it several times a day, or week or whatever and would end up a psych case.

[chemboy7]

Nick- like you did it by yourself? That's the one thing i was curious about- I don't like the freaky group activies associated with it, but wondered what it would be like with a smaller group or no people.

You can totally do MDMA by yourself and have a great experience. Alot of times I prefer to be by myself when I trip or roll.

[alowishus]

Hey vax having never done any x or anything of that type, I just did some (about a month or two ago) crystal mdma from the UK, and had a fantastic time, sat here on the boards tripping balls, I've done alot of acid in the day but this wasn't like that.

I totaly plan on doing somemore soon, just a great feeling, happy to be alive kind of thing, man and the tunes....wow.

If you get the chance you should.

[vaxn8]

Is it at all possible to describe what it's like doing it on your own? I always hear and read about the group crap, so it would be cool to hear how different it is the other way. I definitely could not run around hugging people like a crazy woman, even if the drug was trying to make me, I just can't imagine doing it!

[alowishus]

Well I didn't have any urge to hug anyone, but it's the feeling that is what it's about like I have a crew cut, and running my hand around my head was out of this world, couldn't stop.....I just sat here, played some tunes off my computer, trance, hip house, that sort of music is the best to listen too, evevn if you don't like it, you will. I got to run to the store, be right back.

[Curio]

I haven't done it and I WANT to!

just have no idea where to go about getting REAL stuff instead of bunk; and how would a new person know?

[alowishus]

I haven't done it and I WANT to!

just have no idea where to go about getting REAL stuff instead of bunk; and how would a new person know?


Get sorted out by a friend that knows, most of the stuff in the US and other places is not pure mdma.
As for getting some, I'd go ask some highschoolers.....:p

They've got most of the good drugs:D :D

off to thee store.....

[alowishus]

Is it at all possible to describe what it's like doing it on your own? I always hear and read about the group crap, so it would be cool to hear how different it is the other way. I definitely could not run around hugging people like a crazy woman, even if the drug was trying to make me, I just can't imagine doing it!


Ask WarmCyanide (http://forum.opiophile.org/member.php?u=2070) about my trip, he was messing w/ me putting all kinds of smiley's up and stuff really wigged me out.

Have you ever done LSD, microdots or tabs? It's kind of that way but not as out of your head, w/ a warm loved up feeling, tactile sensory stimulation is the best, hence hugging and rubbing. A story from a friend of mine once when he was rolling; he'd been out and met some other people (non-rolling), friends of friends of friends type deal, he said when he shook hands w/ one of them he didn't realize that he never let go and in fact kept kind of rubbing the other persons hand to felt so good, he's never said if it was a guy or not but since he won't say I have to think it was, but he was good enough to tell the tale.

[antony]

Yeah, that's definately Grecian. The Greek-Key design around the edge, I can't really make out the tendriles along the hairline, but it could be Medusa. More likely Athena, perhaps Aphrodite, or even Hera or Artemis. Those are usually the biggest goddesses in the Greco-Roman mythos. And of course it could be Roman too, they were big on emulating Greek art, tweaking it, and making it their own.

I should've known. Its Versace's symbol. Duh!
http://sh1.yahoo.edyna.com/page/sachikoeyes/indexpict/pict_versace.jpg
Ant- I'm so glad to read there's another human who hasn't rolled! I thought I was the only one left! Don't know why, just don't really have the desire to. Not sure if I would if it was sitting in front of me. I guess I'm pretty much opi-exclusive- don't have much interest in other drugs.

I never did too. I do know, but all of my friends were making it a big habit of it about 6 years ago, I was barely in my 20's, and it seemed like the most unsociable drug to me. I ran into an old friend from HS, and me and him were laughing it up, while everyone is rolling, and someone yells "hey could you keep it down, you're ruining my peak." And I figured I'd just stick to alcohol.

[Narkotikon]

Is it at all possible to describe what it's like doing it on your own? I always hear and read about the group crap, so it would be cool to hear how different it is the other way. I definitely could not run around hugging people like a crazy woman, even if the drug was trying to make me, I just can't imagine doing it!

It's hard to explain what E is like. For me, it's like being touched for the first time by someone you really like. Both electric, euphoric, pleasureable, and exciting. I've rolled both in groups and alone, and it really sort of depends on your mood. When I was alone, all I wanted to do was talk and listen to music and dance (I think because I'm shy in public). When I'm with people, I just become more outgoing and more flirtatious. It does have a habit of making people into e-tards if they're not careful (Vics, Blowpobs, etc.), but I'd say you'd be pretty under control if you were by yourself.

Coma: I'd just try to find someone that's done it. It's not that rare anymore. It's almost like the new gateway drug for some age-groups. High schooler's and college kids might be a good place, but that could be a little weird, especially if a person's older. Other than that, go to the events section on bluelight.ru, find a party, go, and try to score.

Antony: LOL. I can just see Donatella pressing the stuff and then marketing it.

[alowishus]

Here's a nice pic of e-gumming. I think posted it before but....
You got to feel good to look that bad!!!

[Narkotikon]

Here's a nice pic of e-gumming. I think posted it before but....
You got to feel good to look that bad!!!

My god! What amateurs. Where's the glowsticks, the strobes, the binkies. I mean, really, who rolls in the light? LOL

[aj11]

There is a shit load of fent getting mixed in with some china white in St. Louis. It's killing mfers left and right, but good shit no the less. hoaler

[applesauce]

Please take note that if you hit that live link to DEA.GOV in the first post of this thread, and if you are not surfing through some sort of proxy, it will immediately make an entry into a DEA computer that you surfed directly from this site (known for...well, what it is known for) and the DEA article in Microgram about fentanyl.

It isn't a crime to be here, but do you really want your IP (which to the DEA is identical to your full name and address, if you are surfing from home without a proxy) associated by the DEA with opiophile?

This isn't a Chicken Little thing, it isn't the end of the world, I'm just wanting to raise the paranoia-index a little. :)

tor.eff.org

[Dilaudid]

Hello opiophiles,

Yeah, that pill was definately a labor of love. I had assumed that the razzle dazzle would be a selling point, i.e. the pill was probably shitty but they knew that on looks alone they could charge a nice amount per pill as when people see a nice quality press they assume that the pills are probably really cool... I was wrong. I went through and read it all today (instead of just zoning out and looking at the pictures) and the pills wiegh about 320 mg each containing about 30% MDMA, off the top of my head that's what about 105-110 mg a bean. That's not a bad dose for 1 pill, I mean it's not spectacular or anything but no other drugs were reported to be included... so I would assume that they were really clean rolls (although that press would have to get those pills dense as hell, may take awhile to dissolve; I'd chew the bastards up). At 100 mg 3 pills would do the job right, I think I would have a hard time ingesting them when I got to the end though... they just look so fucking awsome.

Chemboy are you really taking 300mg of MDMA?
If yes you're an hardhead, with 130mg of MDMA.HCl I roll very well.
The best combo ever is 70mg MDA.HCl + 90mg MDMA.HCl + Hydromorphone.HCl

It's hard to explain what E is like. For me, it's like being touched for the first time by someone you really like. Both electric, euphoric, pleasureable, and exciting. I've rolled both in groups and alone, and it really sort of depends on your mood. When I was alone, all I wanted to do was talk and listen to music and dance (I think because I'm shy in public). When I'm with people, I just become more outgoing and more flirtatious. It does have a habit of making people into e-tards if they're not careful (Vics, Blowpobs, etc.), but I'd say you'd be pretty under control if you were by yourself.

Pretty good description Narkotikon.

[robojunkie]

Please take note that if you hit that live link to DEA.GOV in the first post of this thread, and if you are not surfing through some sort of proxy, it will immediately make an entry into a DEA computer that you surfed directly from this site (known for...well, what it is known for) and the DEA article in Microgram about fentanyl.

It isn't a crime to be here, but do you really want your IP (which to the DEA is identical to your full name and address, if you are surfing from home without a proxy) associated by the DEA with opiophile?

This isn't a Chicken Little thing, it isn't the end of the world, I'm just wanting to raise the paranoia-index a little. :)

Man I'm so paranoid (or maybe just believe they're capable of anything they want to do) about government tech surveillance (and I'm not even currently on opes or doing anything that the big dogs would give a shit about, dea don't bother busting users or even small time dealers usually, unless its to make a point out of someone famous/controversial/etc.) that I just assume that with their technology, hackers turned gov consultants and their general disregard for privacy and the constitution that they could just as well proxy-hack through some "off the books" type spy shit consultants. The same way they launder money for political campaigns and shit.

Who knows maybe they've already got the entire list of IP's for every member on file (illegally but that doesn't mean shit when they do it) and know who we all are. I think they probably only care about this site when people come on and say ridiculous shit like "I have A, B and C and I need help with the fent synthesis". I'm sure if someone said shit like that they would find them pretty quickly. Or if you had a record for big time trafficking/manufacture and accessed microgram through Ophile. Then they'd probably think you're trying to find out what they "know", etc. "They" are always watching, collecting, sorting, prioritizing, investigating and busting.

[applesauce]

You are probably right, i don't think that anybody mentioning that they're doing a line of oxy while typing has to worry about ninjas rappelling in through the ceiling and hauling them off to Gitmo, but governments are like elephants, they never forget.

Also if a specific individual were being watched for something different, an unsubtle post somewhere could possibly add fuel to a search warrant request or something. I dunno, I'm not a lawyer, I'm a geek. A geek who knows enough to be paranoid.

Our ISPs are now required by law to be able to make associations between IP and our account, so no matter how we connect to the `net, our physical location can be identified at that point. To be free of that, people can do lots of things including surf through a proxy (an excellent and free open-source proxy software is available from http://tor.eff.org) and using a remote WiFi access point that doesn't have any association to us. Parking in front of Starbucks is an example. Using a Yagi antenna to point to a home user's non-secured WiFi network half a mile away is another option (and it is very doable with the right hardware - cheap hardware, I might add...)

Fun reading - http://pe2er.nl/wifisector/

Sorry for the O.T.

[djnarkotik]

Ant- I'm so glad to read there's another human who hasn't rolled! I thought I was the only one left! Don't know why, just don't really have the desire to. Not sure if I would if it was sitting in front of me. I guess I'm pretty much opi-exclusive- don't have much interest in other drugs.


Listen to me you HAVE to try it once in your life. You have to try pure MDMA. IT is a very unique drug, almost magical. This drug gave me my life back because before i took it I was very depressed and had alot of personal issues im pretty sure i wouldve killed myself a long time ago if i didnt try it.

The drug used to be used in therapy actually. Let me tell you the feeling is better then opiates, but its different its not just plain euphoria, is something stronger. But dont be worried that you will be addicted, it isnt something you can do often like an opiate. The addiction rating for ecstasy is in the lowest class- less then weed, caffeine, alcohol. and way less then opiates.

And mark my words it will be made avialable for therapy in the future I put my life on it. Im studying psychology now and its the reason i got into it. Hopefully i will work with it in the future.

[Ickyuck]

Please take note that if you hit that live link to DEA.GOV in the first post of this thread, and if you are not surfing through some sort of proxy, it will immediately make an entry into a DEA computer that you surfed directly from this site (known for...well, what it is known for) and the DEA article in Microgram about fentanyl.

It isn't a crime to be here, but do you really want your IP (which to the DEA is identical to your full name and address, if you are surfing from home without a proxy) associated by the DEA with opiophile?

This isn't a Chicken Little thing, it isn't the end of the world, I'm just wanting to raise the paranoia-index a little. :)

tor.eff.org


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Good call Apple, I don't want no internet finger pointin' at O-phile.