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Opiyum
07-10-2006, 09:15 PM
Myoclonus /ˌmɑɪ̯ˈɑk.lə.nəs/ is brief, involuntary twitching of a muscle or a group of muscles. It describes a symptom and, generally, is not a diagnosis of a disease....
...The myoclonic twitches or Jerks are usually caused by sudden muscle contractions...
...Myoclonus may develop in response to infection, head or spinal cord injury, stroke, brain tumors, kidney or liver failure, lipid storage disease, chemical or drug poisoning, or other disorders. Prolonged oxygen deprivation to the brain, called hypoxia, may result in posthypoxic myoclonus. Myoclonus can occur by itself, but most often it is one of several symptoms associated with a wide variety of nervous system disorders...

I experience this symptom on a pretty frequent basis when I am opiated. Never knew of the term till I discovered it on Wiki. I searched O-phile and found no results for the term so now I'm wondering how many of "us" also experience this when high. I'd say it happens to me 1 out of every three times I get high and only when I dose considerably higher than I normally would.
I wonder if a health professional could explain the Italicized sentence in the quote from Wiki that would be great. Specifically the postypoxic part. I know that opiates themselves deprive oxygen to the brain(I guess I assume this to be fact but logic tells me that when breathing is slowed; Oxygen to the brain is lessened) so this sentence makes me wonder.
I really doubt that this is anything to worry about as far as it being a health risk but you never know and my hospital attendance as of late is quite high and less and less a suprise and more and more a routine.
:sickinbed

Alot of you guys have me beat ten fold when it comes to hospital appearances and Im aware of that and dont want to be that guy who you say "You have no room to talk" to. I hate that guy.

Oh yeah only happens when I do what my avatar displays. That is when in pursuit of sleep.

candy
07-12-2006, 02:28 PM
Opiyum,
I can say with certainty that you have nothing to worry about. The type of myoclonic movements you are describing does happen with opiate use. Research shows that there may be a deficiency or abnormality in the receptors for certain neurotransmitters, Seratonin, Gamma-aminobutyric acid(GABA), which helps the brain maintain muscle control. Opiate receptors are included, drugs that induce sleep are thought to be linked to myoclonic movements as well.

Opiates depress the respiratory system and when we are loaded we may not take as many breaths as we might when we are not high. While this can lead to a lower oxygen saturation, I doubt that we are experiencing any oxygen deprivation. Unless your in repiratory distress or arrest, I would think it is safe to say your OK. When the brain is deprived of oxygen and a person becomes hypoxic, you can develop posthypoxic myoclonus. This usually follows after a prolonged period of oxygen deprivation, such as with a cardiac arrest. The myoclonic movement can occurr by itself, but it is generally seen with other symptoms that develop when there is damage or a disorder of the nervous system.
This is why it is important to start CPR when someone stops breathing such as with an overdose. By keeping oxygen flowing to the brain through rescue breathing and chest compressions, you are helping that person from developing brain damage.

I think most of us have experienced the same time. I think of it as those jerky movements you get just before you fall asleep. Yeah they are annoying, but just a response from the body.

WarmCyanide
07-12-2006, 03:21 PM
bet ya thats where Klonopin gets it's name.

1..2..3..Benzo wins the muscle wrestling round against the opiod induced spasms!