actavis roxy's

[GimpLeg]

do these gel nowadays?

I recently got a few 30's and 15's of this brand, so I put 75mg in the spoon, throw a full syringe of water on it, start cooking it, and it looks goopy, so I make a good size filter and throw it in there, and nothing. just sits on top, dry. I ended up making like four more big filters and just using them to scoop up the goop and held them all under my tongue for about 45 mins until I was feelin' it.

the rest of them I had to snort. do these gel up? because I haven't had them in probably 5 years, and I don't remember them doing that back then. I know the mallinckrodt ones out now cook up fine.

[OCD]

In my experience these do not gel at all and I've had them within the last month.

[GimpLeg]

well, goddammit, I missed two decent rushes. I've never cooked a pill that gelled. I've always known which ones to stay away from and from the little searching I could do on my cell phone internet I couldn't find anything, I even added more water to it after I cooked it because it was visibly thick.

now I know I've did that much with the mallinckrodt same dosage two 30mg and one 15mg pill with a full 1cc rig of water.

no idea what went wrong.

[OCD]

That is strange, I've never seen those do that before. :confused:

[Raekwon]

They dont gel up, but it seems like it goops a little bit so i always use a little more on the activis than i do on the malli's. But ive never had a problem getting in the syringe before and i just had some activis roxis a couple days ago and i IVed them.

[okie dokie]

the rest of them I had to snort. do these gel up? because I haven't had them in probably 5 years, and I don't remember them doing that back then. I know the mallinckrodt ones out now cook up fine.

i snorted (5)-15mg pills (a214) at lunch today and they didnt gel or goop up. the were the same as always...which is goooood IMO

[fizzled428]

I recently had the A 215 and 214s. When ground out up then water added it seemed to "goop" up as OP was saying. Try cold shooting and moving the cotton around to get the most bang for your buck ;)

[panda]

these are the best, imo. they shouldn't gel..

[OCD]

Strange. I take back what I said. I got a few of these yesterday and I wouldn't go as far to say that they gelled up, but they did goop A LITTLE BIT, just enough for me to notice. I snorted them and kept having clumps of them in my nose. I've been getting these for years and never had this happen. They look, taste, and smell exactly like all the other A 215's I've gotten. Is it possible they made a batch just a little differently and this is the result? Like I said, it wasn't that bad, but it was noticeable so I definitely think something is going on here. :confused:

[Oceans 80]

i personally do NOT like the a215 30s....when I IV them this is how i do it...

first, you cant go about doing 4-5 of them in one shot..if so you gotta cook it up 1-2 pills at a time and keep reusing the same water to make a more potent shot...

anyways, i will crush 1-2 up in a spoon..add a rig and a half of water (50 unit rigs) and add heat until the powder dissolves into the water...i dont boil it or cook it toooo much..add a big filter and suck up...save the goop and add 1-2 more pills and use the water i just sucked up and then supplement whatever water was lost during the cook with more water and add it to the new 1-2 pills..rinse and repeat...now i have 4 pills in one rig....its a pain in the ass but its what you gotta do...then after i bang and i start fiendin for that second shot..i take all the gels i saved up and re-cook em...i usually get 3-4 recooks out of them...the a215s are the last on my list though...the M 30s are my favorite...

[panda]

now that i think about it, ONE time when i had the A214(15mgs) they gooped up on me. i have had them many times and the reason i forgot was because this was 2 years ago.

after reading what ocd just wrote, it jogged my memory. they didnt gel, they sorta globbed up and looked like little booger specs. it sounds like they gelled the way i wrote that, but its hard to explain. i think because it was winter and i was in my cold car, my nose was running and had to much liquid up there.

i dunno, they never did it again. i get them scripted but i take them as prescribed now, so i guess i wouldn't know if they changed the recipe!

[jersey_emt]

They didn't change the recipe. They've always been just a bit "clumpy". I did a side-by-side comparison with Actavis 30mg tablets from both before the plant was shut down and after they resumed production.

[harmonik]

I've never had these goop up on me... only thing that's ever done that is morphine..

If they give you too much trouble, heat til boiling and draw up quickly.. make sure the liquid isnt too thick inside your rig incase we're mistaken...

that confuses me tho.. these are mine and many others' favourite brand of roxis.. seem to be more potent, easy to crush, and all around just a great product

[Raekwon]

They didn't change the recipe. They've always been just a bit "clumpy". I did a side-by-side comparison with Actavis 30mg tablets from both before the plant was shut down and after they resumed production.
Exactly what jersey said they never gel up but they do get clumsy once u add the water, I don't know if they did that before they went out of production for a couple years because the a 215s were the first brand I ever IVed but I only did them twice before they went out of production for 2 years so I can't really compare if they clumped up before to how they clump up after they came back. But the M30s have always been my favorite.

[azapolis]

Just got two green(didn't they used to be blue?) A 214's and when added to water they definitely gooped a lot.

[panda]

Just got two green(didn't they used to be blue?) A 214's and when added to water they definitely gooped a lot.

the blue ones(A215) are the 30mg and the green(A214) are the 15mg. i hope you didn't pay 30mg price!

[GimpLeg]

well, I'm getting more of these either thursday or friday. I'm hoping their the mallinkrodt, but I get them for free so I cannot complain if they are the actavis. if they are, I think I will try cooking just one and seeing, but the thing is I want at least 75-80mg in a rig. I was pretty high on some killer diesel when I was trying to cook these last time and I'm thinking I may have only put 1cc of water on two 30's and one 15 and of course that won't work.

but yeah, I'm getting more thursday or friday and I will let you know if they are actavis and how they faired.

[harmonik]

I generally use an entire 1ml syringe full of water for any amount.. I really don't believe concentration effects the rush, as the solution is immediately diluted when it enters your bloodstream, and 1ml is such a minute amount that if you even push off at a medium speed it should all reach your brain at the same time...
That being said, several websites report "1 gram of oxycodone dissolves in 6 or 7 mL of water," so let's say it's 6.5mL. That leaves roughly 150mg of oxycodone allowed to dissolve in 1mL of water. If you end up getting more oxy in the rig than that, you'll notice that when rig is held in light, little ribbons are seen floating around in the solution. Pretty neat.

Mallis and actavis both do not gel up so don't worry about that either.. Just used adequate water and remember to leave enough room to do a 2nd and even 3rd wash to get nearly all in your rig (or save the washes for later like me ;) )

[GimpLeg]

well, they should be here anytime now. I'm really hoping for mallies, but if their the actavis, anyone got any ideas on how to suck up the shit? anytime I've messed with morphine that gels I've had someone who knows what they're doing do it, but now if these are the gelling roxy's, I'll have to do it myself and would like some kind of technique from anyone who has noticed the gelling of these pills but still managed to get a shot out of it.

[GimpLeg]

they just arrived. got 10 of the 30mg actavis roxies. this time instead of trying 3 in 1cc syringe. I did two of them and used 1.5ml of water (rig and a half) they did seem to gel, or really I wouldn't call it gelling, it cooks into the water, but its like when you throw the cotton in, it sits on top, so I pushed it down and kind of moved it around and it eventually started picking up some water so I just did that with two cottons and got most of it up. it works, but I couldn't get it all up so I just scoop up what I can onto the cottons and hold them under my tongue for about 10 mins, then I just swallow them. I think I'm gonna snort two more to get where I need to be. if it works out good enough, I just might do that from now on with these. shoot 2, suck on the cottons, and then snort however many more I want.

I'm still curious as to what is different now. it doesn't gel, its just a pain in the ass to suck up. so if anyone has any ideas as to what is actually happening, please share.

[harmonik]

Just be patient when you do it.. You're gonna have to suck up, add water, suck up, add water.. But I never had this problem with actavis. Also, I don't heat them. Vintage is the only brand that has done this in my experience. It just takes a bit extra time..

I don't think it gels, it just absorbs the water and doesn't let it release it. Try to soak a whole pill for 5 minutes and then crush it. It should just fall apart..

[panda]

yea, that is weird. most people like the actavis because they are easy.

[AJ4U]

yea, that is weird. most people like the actavis because they are easy.

Iv had actavis, malli, and the V's. Not sure who makes the V's. But i always like the V's, maybe cause they were so hard to come by, and now i dont ever see them around. i think the last time was 6-8 months ago or longer. So now its just A's and M's, i favor the A's just cause there smaller in size compared to the mallis, so less powder to snort i suppose, and for a person who snorts atleast 2 or 3 nd upwards to 5 at atime, that cuts the powder in half. I havent been able to do the whole line in one shot yet either before anyone asks lol, more like 2 or 3 sniffs.

[GimpLeg]

if you snort, then you should have no problems with any of the roxies. I'm mainly talking about IV use roxy. and like hwat was said earlier, I dont' think it gels, its like it absorbs the water.


oh, and who said suck it up, add water, suck it up and all that. I didn't do that, and I don't think its necessary. now what I do think is necessary is having to use like 2-3 filters because the first ones get caked up.

but I've been doing them like I said I was going to. got 2 more left, and they're about to be gone.

[harmonik]

V's are the Vintage brand I was talking about that are hard to draw up for me.. seems like they absorb water. But I loved them when I snorted since they are nearly 1/2 size of a Malli.

Yeah I haven't had Vintage in a while so I remember now, I would piggy back the filters so the bottom one got the crud and the top one got the top of the water. Worked quite well. It helps, to, to squirt a tiny bit of water if the cotton goes dry and there's still liquid left in the cooker to get things flowin again

[panda]

if you snort, then you should have no problems with any of the roxies. I'm mainly talking about IV use roxy. and like hwat was said earlier, I dont' think it gels, its like it absorbs the water.


oh, and who said suck it up, add water, suck it up and all that. I didn't do that, and I don't think its necessary. now what I do think is necessary is having to use like 2-3 filters because the first ones get caked up.

but I've been doing them like I said I was going to. got 2 more left, and they're about to be gone.


except the ethex brand, they fucking suck! i don't shoot but my friends who do prefer the actavis.

[fizzled428]

I seemed to get better results for just grinding and then adding colder water to them. It seems to me the more you heat them, the more "goop" you will get with the A214/215. Like one the previous posters said after you get what you can you also can add some water on top. Swirl in around and keep cotton on top to get the most. I never tried the mallis so I would be curious how the ease of use is compared to amide/actavis ones or ethex. (other the little orange 5mg 625 i think)

[GimpLeg]

shooting the mallinckrodt's is just like shooting any other pill, no problems at all. which is why I wish this guy would send those instead of the actavis. but oh well, can't complain for 300mg of free oxy.

[JonWrong]

Geez I had bang these boogers a lot back in the day. They do get kinda thick but there is a simple fix for that and I could get 4 of the 30mg's in a rig when I tried. If you heat up the water BEFORE adding the pills to it. like 130 units of water, bring to a warm temp but not boiling. Then quickly add the already crushed powdered activas to it. Do a QUICK stir and toss in the cotton and draw up in a timely fashion and you'll get back a quick 95 units easily. I seriously perfected the prep time with those and had no more issues with getting them in a rig.

Just do NOT heat them with the pills already in the water. Not only is it horrible for you but they will goop up real easy. Heat/Warm the water first than add the pills to it...stir...cotton...pull...bang...smile :D

[feelings of u4ia]

I don't ever heat my Roxi's, regardless of brand....but the A's DO goop up and make for a bigger pain in the ass.

[metric man]

For me I find that when trying to fix 3 or more of the Actavis 30mg's that they goop up pretty bad (I don't heat them btw). So if I'm doing three or more I dump the powder into a 3mL needleless syringe add about 110 units of water to it, shake vigorously for however long you feel, then roll a piece of cotton into about a centimeter long cylinder and put it in the end of the rig (where the needle would be) and push down slowly on the plunger filtering the solution into a spoon and then drawing up the water into a rig and banging it. Seems to get every last bit of liquid and gooddies out. You could do a wash though if you wanted to. This is just the way I usually do it because the gooppinees is just a pain in the ass.

[GimpLeg]

thanks for your info.

I was just doing normally but adding more water and using a few filters at a time, then I'd just hold the filters under my tongue, seemed to work for me.

I haven't been getting the roxi's anymore, because I can't get them for free anymore the way I was getting them.