Opaites and Decesion Making..

[caesee]

I am wondering if daily users of opaites feel that anyway they effect your judgement, and decesion making?? I know if you just took a shot of H, or snorted a 80mg oc then your decesion making is going to be just a tad bit off..this question is more for people that take opaites daily for pain, not just to get a buzz. I know is is a weird question that is hard to answer, but I am seeking anyones opinion on the matter. As some know from my some prevoius posts I play poker of living, which other then dumb luck there is a a huge amount of stategy and decesion making involved. I usually take breaks from opaites for huge torunies, and cash games becasue I personaly feel it effects my judgement and has cost me over 100k in the long run. Recently I have been playing while taking my daily regiment of OCS, and find myself making calls when i know i am beat, and overall going agaisnt my judgement. The other thing that opaites effect for me is my patentience, and I seem to get frusterated very easly, anyone else?

[Opiyum]

I use only for recreation but what your say about patience and a lack there of rings true with me. When in the kitchen I can certainly hustle more but I can remember more than a few times that I got a little higher than I should have and I when I did this I would get a little scatterbrained. This was also, I think, due in part because of long hours so the opi's aren't completly to blame.
Most of the time with the right kinda dose I feel my decision making abilities weren't affected negatively if anything they helped to focus on the task/tasks at hand.
Good question I look forward to alot more replies as well.

[devilsdrug]

i also think good ? but nobodys on it , myself iv learned over many yrs (i think) to gauge or temper my decisions and behavior relative to highness or how high im , i think casee can now in hindsight see how to do same , i know in ur bizz its gotta be quick sometimes well hell try it

[Phluck]

I haven't really noticed much... there is the temper issue, where opiates tend to make my temper worse, but I've found when on opiates I actually get things done that I should be doing. I don't know that it has anything to do with decision making though, it could just be that I feel bored less easily, so I enjoy getting shit done.

I'm pretty mild mannered as it is, so it's not like the temper thing is very serious. I tend to be able to avoid actually showing anyone my temper.

[jab]

I tend to make the same decisions, high or not, and don't usually regret any decisions made on opiates.. Can't say the same for benzos though! They make be do completely foolish stuff. But dope? nah.

[slugbone]

for the most part i think my decisions are pretty good, but i don't have to make high pressure type thinking that you need in gambling. the only thing it helps me with is when i'm high at work my mood is good, and i don't overreact to bad situations, i tend to be more calm and positive about shyte going wrong.

[HistoryofMadness]

In your work I'd work first and play later. Mine is the same, although a totally different line of work.

[caesee]

bump...bump...anyone else? Thanks for the replies...I am very, very intersted in seeing other fellow opiophiles thoughts on this subject!!!!

[HistoryofMadness]

Hey I was looking for this thread because of my state of mind last night. I apparently changed my description under my name to a Devo song... I had a long chat about shit only god knows with dd, cassee, karen, and phluck, and if i'm missing anyone that actually wants to claim the conversation, let me know...

But that's fine, this is a good place to do that, if for any other reason so it doesn't happen elsewhere.

Here's where it gets weird: For some reason this morning I was shopping for motorcycles and had it not been for the overwhelming force of the nods I would now be the proud owner of a 1989 Harley. Don't get me wrong, its a bad bike, and I have been shopping for one, but of all the days to buy??? WTF was I thinking?

Anyway, real time junk matters. There you have it folks. Now where's my cup?

[Frontier Psychiatrist]

My life is awesome on the horse. Everything makes sense, I'm out meeting people, fuckin shit up, and ruining friendships!!

[Sitar]

In response to the original question:

Um...... YES!

Opiates can TOTALLY warp your judgement, just like any and every addictive drug. They actually change your brain chemistry over time, and that will certainly have a profound effect on someone's judgement and ability to make proper decisions. And not in a good way, generally.

Opiate addiction totally fucks up a person's priorities. The drug comes before EVERYTHING. Opiate addiction is a horrible state in which to live. Some people claim to be "functioning addicts", but I think they're fooling themselves, as addicts are really good at that. And even if they are functioning, for how long and at what cost?

[Phluck]

I apparently changed my description under my name to a Devo song...


I know this is getting off topic, but glad to see another Devo fan here! I haven't listened to them a lot recently, but I went through a phase where I collected everything I could.

I visited an uncle once, and was wearing a Devo t-shirt, he told me to hold on a second, went downstairs, and emerged with an original sealed vinyl copy of "Are We Not Men?" which he gave to me for free. I've got a bunch of Devo on vinyl now.

[Sitar]

See?

Opiates have caused a person (see above post) to make the decision to divert an important discussion into one about an obscure '80's band. Opiates have fogged his decision-making skills.

And yes, opiates definitely cause people to get irritated very easily. Let's see if this side-effect also comes into play with the above poster as a result of my persnickety observation.

Oh, I'm just phlucking with you.....

;)

[HistoryofMadness]

See?

Opiates have caused a person (see above post) to make the decision to divert an important discussion into one about an obscure '80's band. Opiates have fogged his decision-making skills.



OBSCURE?!?!? Who you callin' obscure? You must be outta your mind.. Devo was one of the best bands of a generation; they helped propel music forward from a bad rut, and they lie squarely in the lineage of music royalty between the beatles' 'sgt peppers' and radiohead's 'ok computer' - you betta recognize!

seriously they are a great band, and they are so much more than 'whip it' - check them out for sure!

[Coddfish]

on the original topic, I'll add this: Back during the first year I was shooting h (pure recreation) I was contemplating a move to colorado. When I was high the move was a great idea. When I wasn't high it was a terrible idea. I actually put a deposit down on an apartment only to decide against the move the day I was supposed to leave. Often wonder what would've happened......probably wouldn't be on this site, for one thing.

I think it's the curbing of nervousness that comes with opiates....balls out, ya know?

[Opiyum]

Why not? Afterall It couldn't possibly hurt??
-Later that night when reality begins to set in-
Damnit! That was a stupid idea! I need a fuckin hit!!!