Anabolic Steroid analogs

[euphoricontin17]

Hey guys, this probly won't interest much of you because I know how rare it is to find a junkie who works out but I know we have a few. A few months ago I started lifting again because I was just getting so sick of my low self-confidence and all the shit that goes along.

I was getting creatine online and though, I don't personally fuck with anabolics, ( liver has to much to worry about without them) I noticed there are a number of anabolic steroid analouges toted as being legal.

Some of you may know of oxymethelone sp? or Anadrol. It's one of the most potent and toxic steroids ever produced. It'll make you huge but with lots of horrible side effects and usually the gains are lost after cycling. I noticed there are many websites selling analouges of not only this 'roid but many other illegal ones too. With only small structural differences making them technically "not illegal". What I'm wondering is, isn't this type of shit covered under the "analouge act" that states analouges of illegal drugs are also illegal? I just find the whole bodybuilding scene nearly as sketchy as the dope game...

[hydro chris]

yeah some slip though the loop holes, for awhile

some are more harsh than the real shit
you still need to run anti e's if needed
and do a proper p.c.t. at the end of a cycle.... depending on alot of things

[Opiofiend]

By any chance do u go to a doc to get pain meds? If so get a blood test done to chek ur test levels. Anyone who uses opies for an extendd period will have low test. My doc gives my androgel which is simply a gel u rub on ur shoulders once a day. Low test is not only bad for ur sex drive but also can allow ur bones n immune system to weaken. Anyway just my two cents

[biggermuscles]

Very funny I was just having this convo with a couple of buddys of mine yesterday... The dr. will def give you some andro gel if you take opes.. I think its def. a good call for ppl who like opiates but also want a little bump in there test level,, I know swim def knows there SEX dive has gone down the toilet when opiates are in the equation.. Which makes swms wife very upset... Its soo hard to try to get in the mood, when its more fun to makes swims pupils very VERY VERY small,,, But anadrol is def a GREAT steroid,,, Drol is great to stck with sust250 and trenbolone,,, The combo of them 3 will make u a SICK ravage dogg.. Swim DEF recommends that one.. If you was to message me I have several good advice on this subject.. I dont know whats go to type for all to read... Swim knows best :)

[memphis10]

i have a bottle of H-drol which is a halodrol clone which i started using but then started chipping and lifting went out the window so i had to back off, and the same company, competitive edge labs makes what i believe is the strongest clone out right now called M-drol, which is basically just methylated masterdrol.

check em out

[Opuim4TheMasses]

The analogs won't take long to become outright illegal....

Speaking of anabolics, Im starting some home 'hormone therapy' pretty soon too. Im going with straight testosterone, and see how my body handles it. I have a few friends that use it with very minimal side effects, we will see....

[Spaazkaz]

^ what do you mean by home hormone therapy? like injecting a testosterone ester weekly? What kind of dose are we talking for this type of casual use and which ester would you choose? I am also interested in this... Ive heard good things about increasing testosterone, including an intense feeling of well being and confidence. I think I have low test from being on suboxone for so long, is that possible? ive always been into strength training but I want to be able to say im N/A, im on the edge on this one. I actually bought a bunch of designer prohormones because I thought they were going to be outlawed and ... well be worth more money. Anyway I have Anabolic Extreme - phera plex and the orignal ergopharm 1-AD! Had to brag im pround of my collection, peace! -spaz-

[Indy]

^ what do you mean by home hormone therapy? like injecting a testosterone ester weekly? What kind of dose are we talking for this type of casual use and which ester would you choose? I am also interested in this...
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I think I have low test from being on suboxone for so long, is that possible?

I think he just said straight testosterone? I'm not sure what you mean by what ester though, I'm guessing there are different kinds of plain testosterone? And yeah, it's possible for opiates to decrease testosterone levels, buuuuut......
Anyone who uses opies for an extendd period will have low test.


That's not necessarily true, it CAN be a side effect, but it's certainly not an inevitability. Same with hyperalgesia: SOME doctors say that it's inevitable, that eventually opiates will increase your pain, but it all depends on the person.

Last time I had a bunch of tests done, testosterone was included (which is kind of strange cause at my age they don't really expect it....must have been a really comprehensive test battery), and my levels were completely normal, might have been a bit elevated but I'm not THAT far out of puberty so it's completely normal. This was after using opiates pretty much without exception for a good 3 years or so.

My dad is on testosterone patches, I guess he likes it but it can make him really hyper and irritable at times, personally I think he should decrease his dosage but I'm not him nor his doctor so it's out of line for me to comment on it. I could always get some from him if I wanted to but steroids are one of the drugs I have absolutely no interest in ever.

[Paregoric Kid]

DHEA, they might control that soon but it is OTC in the US right now.
there are a bunch of others but I don't know them off hand.

[Dr.G]

I work out 5 days a week currently, and in undergrad I did a 10 week cycle of testosterone enanthate. Looking back, I would have just stuck to a strict diet plan (40% carbs/40% protein/ 20% fats) with protein supplements. Prohormones are toxic, and I wouldn't even try an analogue. I'd rather just get the real thing, like winstrol or even dianabol.

Bodybuilding is sketchy in its own respect.

[Duckfeet]

I work out 5 days a week currently, and in undergrad I did a 10 week cycle of testosterone enanthate. Looking back, I would have just stuck to a strict diet plan (40% carbs/40% protein/ 20% fats) with protein supplements. Prohormones are toxic, and I wouldn't even try an analogue. I'd rather just get the real thing, like winstrol or even dianabol.
Bodybuilding is sketchy in its own respect.

Yup: I seem to do good with yoga, daily swimming, and a reasonable diet of high complex carbs, low everything else...mostly just gotta watch the fats and sugars...(I'm diabetic) but seem to do pretty good once I learned a bit about nutrition...most docs I talk to seem to think I do really good, even with the periodic 'slip' into Baskin Robbins...(hey, I said I was self-destructive)...common sense and moderation...(not my strong suits...but anyway) work best...

[Paregoric Kid]

Prohormones are toxic
anything can be toxic when taken above a certain dose. dosage determines toxicity, things like DHEA, steroid analogs, and phytosteroids can be used safely but I'm not necessarily recommending them.

[hydro chris]

I work out 5 days a week currently, and in undergrad I did a 10 week cycle of testosterone enanthate. Looking back, I would have just stuck to a strict diet plan (4n someoould see0% carbs/40% protein/ 20% fats) with protein supplements. Prohormones are toxic, and I wouldn't even try an analogue. I'd rather just get the real thing, like winstrol or even dianabol.
Bodybuilding is sketchy in its own respect.
sounds like you cut urself short with only runnin for 10 weeks.. you should of seen some
respectable gains..are you sayin, you didnt?

[Dr.G]

sounds like you cut urself short with only runnin for 10 weeks.. you should of seen some
respectable gains..are you sayin, you didnt?

I definitely did see great gains. It was when I was trying to play Division 2 football in a university in GA. I gained 20 lbs, and strength increases slightly short of mutant. It was on one cycle, and the only reason why I did it is because I was pressed for time. I had to gain what I wanted in 2 months compared to what would have taken me 4-6. You'll lose a good majority of your gains (depending on which drug used) when you finish.