Holy Bargain Batman!

[Phluck]

So this morning I bought a hydromorph contin 18mg for $15 cdn. An okay price, but I decided to head back out to the area and see if he could get a little more, so he'd have something for tomorrow. He had $35 more, so he wasn't expecting to get much. He saw someone who appeared to be selling something to someone, and went up. They had Dilaudid 8mg pills, which normally seem to go for $10. I asked how much they were being sold for, he asked how much I had, I said $20, and he said "I'll give you 7."

I just about creamed myself, and bought those, then asked how much I could get for another $15. He said "Sorry, I'll have to sell those for $3 a piece." No problem...

So all in all, I got 12 Dilaudid 8mg pills for $35 canadian. Not bad at all... especially considering I've heard of these things going for like $30-40 A PIECE in the states.

Looks like I'll have less trouble holding off until my methadone begins than I thought.

[ZodiacKiller]

Nice! Wish there was an area in my city where you can just roll up and score pills like that. The only thing you can get on the streets is smack (of questionable quality--good thing I have my own great hook), or crack. And this entails driving into very scary neighborhoods, risking the cops just because if you are white you don't belong in that neighborhood, risking getting jacked, and all that. I've never heard of anyone selling pills on the street here---you gotta know somone.

Kudos, Phluck, and I wanna live where you do...

ZK

[Phluck]

Well, at least you can get smack. Heroin is virtually non-existant here, and I wouldn't mind getting some now and then. Asking around, I hear stories about a friend of a friend who gets their own stash from the west coast or something, but the junkies around here are pretty much all users of pharmaceuticals. The neighbourhood isn't even that terrible. It's a medium sized city, around 350,000 people, and a fairly wealthy city overall, so it's not like it's filled with crime. There are lots of people hanging around near the methadone clinic, as there's a coffeehouse charity type place next door, and a lot of the methadone clients hang out there. It's a fairly shitty area, but there are some decent older houses, and a mixture of restaurants and businesses right nearby that include some fairly reputable type places. So it's not like I look out of place there, not looking like a thug.

I like these Dilaudids a lot though. The Hydromorph Contins are kind of cool, but they're a bitch to use. I get the feeling that there's still a bunch of drugs remaining in those little beads. Plus a lot of people open the Hydromorph Contins, and fill them with sugar, or worse, Effexor or something, which looks almost the same. The Hydromorph beads are slightly yellowish though, so if I can get a good look then I can usually tell. But it's hard to get a chance to get a good look when you're trying to quickly make the deal and get out.

Dilaudids dissolve very nicely though, and are very easy to shoot. They seem to be a little less common though. I actually kind of like shooting Oxy more than the Dilaudids, in a way. If I'm close to withdrawal, or actually withdrawing, I find the rush I get from oxy to be somewhat more euphoric in a way. But the hydromorphone rush can be very intense as well.

This is certainly the best price I've seen yet, though. I wish I had that guy's phone number. That price totally blew me away. I was almost expecting the pills to be fake when I took a close look at them.... and I can say 100% for sure that they're the real deal.

Just out of curiosity, how much does the smack cost where you are? I don't know if you're familiar with Dilaudid, but I'd say that 24mg would be a nice shot for me... if you have a reference point, what would you have to pay to get an equivelant dose of heroin?

[D-Train]

Absolutely. The very cheapest 8mg D in these parts is $30, although they are somewhat readily available. So, going by capitalist equation there seems to be adequate demand.

[D-Train]

Guess I was kinda slow on my last post. Only had the hydromorph- contin once. I thought the dude said it was a 12mg ?
I found it to be a real bitch to prepare for bangin, and yeh I think it's hard to get all the goodies. Oh well, never saw one again anyway. Plenty of 4's & 8's though.

[Phluck]

Absolutely. The very cheapest 8mg D in these parts is $30, although they are somewhat readily available. So, going by capitalist equation there seems to be adequate demand.

Holy shit... that's just crazy. Considering you're paying in american dollars, that's significantly over ten times what I paid today. Unless your tolerance is fairly low, 8mg isn't a really strong shot on its own either... you'd have to pay like $60-90 for one shot.


I've seen the Hydromorph Contins in 12, 18, 24, and 30mg... I just googled it, and apparently it's available in 3 and 6mg as well... which obviously wouldn't have much demand on the street. To shoot them I mix with 3cc's, and gently heat for a bit, then crush with the flat, metal bit on a pen, and repeat for a while, until it's fairly well smushed. Then filter into a 3cc syringe.

[ZodiacKiller]

Well, at least you can get smack. Heroin is virtually non-existant here, and I wouldn't mind getting some now and then.


Just out of curiosity, how much does the smack cost where you are? I don't know if you're familiar with Dilaudid, but I'd say that 24mg would be a nice shot for me... if you have a reference point, what would you have to pay to get an equivelant dose of heroin?

Yeah, I guess I didn't realize that in your area the big H is hard to find; now that you've mentioned it, I recall a few Canadian posters saying that heroin is hard to find there. That bites the big one--I feel for ya..

As far as the D's go, well, I don't IV, so it's a different ballgame with those for me. I've snorted 'em a number of times, and they got me off somewhat, but it's one of those opiates that gets the dreaded first-pass liver metabolism (same with morphine), and I just hate knowing I'm not getting what I could be out of it. So I imagine that since I have discovered that plugging actually does work with morphine, that'd be the way I'd have to go should Dilaudid cross my path again. I just find plugging a bit, uh, awkward and distasteful--I mean, I'll do it, if it means a good opiate high, but...I dunno, only if I absolutely have to, I guess....That's why, when it comes to pharms, I'll take OC anyday. I can chew 'em or snort 'em and be right happy.

As far as smack prices, well, if you're street-copping, it's generally sold in $10bags, which is about one big line for me--my buddy who IVs usually does 2 bags per shot. But that means all the potential hazards of copping on the street, so instead:

I have a guy that I hook up with that sells 'raw', which is brown, chunky, really good quality stuff. He's a black dude, gang-banger type with a flashy SUV and all that, but he values good, honest business, and is straight-up with me (calls me 'his favorite white-boy'). I usually buy it a gram at a time, for $170, but he sells smaller increments, too. It's expensive, I know, but I'll take this quality over that wacked-up ghetto crap anyday. And black-tar heroin is non-existant here---never seen it. Oh, and he drives it right to my house, too...

Ok, I've probably said waaaay too much here--don't be surprised if I get second thoughts and edit this out soon...:confused:


ZK

[Phluck]

Yeah, heroin seems pretty rare in this part of Canada at least. Out west it's a different story. In Vancouver heroin flows like water. The heroin there was off white powder... must have been very pure, 'cause each bag contained the tiniest bit of powder, but two bags packed a good punch.

[caesee]

As far as I know, and yes I will admit that I could be wrong, which has not happened yet..Hydromorph contins were PULLED off the US market a while back becasue if you drink ANY amount of acholol after ingesting them (at any time) it will break the time release, thus it caued I think 2 people in the san fransico bay area to OD. So they were pulled so the time release could be re-formualted not to break...

[caesee]

thought i was right...=)::

July 14, 2005 - Purdue Pharma has voluntarily taken its pain-relieving Palladone capsules off the market, the drugmaker says in a news release.
The company took the action on July 13 following an FDA request to withdraw Palladone because of safety concerns.
The FDA approved Palladone in September 2004. The drug was launched by Purdue Pharma this February. An FDA news release states that "serious and potentially fatal adverse reactions can occur when Palladone (hydromorphone hydrochloride) extended release capsules are taken together with alcohol. New data gathered from a company-sponsored study testing the potential effects of alcohol use shows that when Palladone is taken with alcohol the extended release mechanism is harmed which can lead to dose-dumping. The FDA says Purdue Pharma has greed to suspend the sale of Palladone in the U.S. until the company discusses safety issues with the agency. The release also states that the FDA has "agreed to entertain a proposal for use of Palladone Capsules in certain institutional settings, such as hospitals and in-patient hospices, and the company is reviewing whether such a limited distribution would be feasible."

[ZodiacKiller]

Yeah, I remember the roll-out of Palladone---everyone was all excited to try them- "The new OC--it's gonna blow oxy away-it's called Palladone"--jumping up and down in anticipation....but no-one, not a single pill-pusher I know, EVER got their hands on one of 'em. I felt rather let down :(


ZK

[Phluck]

As far as I know, and yes I will admit that I could be wrong, which has not happened yet..Hydromorph contins were PULLED off the US market a while back becasue if you drink ANY amount of acholol after ingesting them (at any time) it will break the time release, thus it caued I think 2 people in the san fransico bay area to OD. So they were pulled so the time release could be re-formualted not to break...

Well, I'm in Canada, and I'm sure they're still available here, 'cause quite a few people have 'em. Some of the people I've bought them from have their prescription bottles with them, so they're straight from the pharmacy. The Say "Hydromorph Contin", then the "PF" logo, and the dosage.

Someone posted some pictures of the same kind of capsules recently, I wish I had my camera to take pictures... aha! This link has a picture of the 12mg pill: http://www.pharmer.org/node/3377

There are tons of people selling those things around here. For the past week, nobody seems to have any oxys, but they all have hydromorphs.

[caesee]

Well, I'm in Canada, and I'm sure they're still available here, 'cause quite a few people have 'em. Some of the people I've bought them from have their prescription bottles with them, so they're straight from the pharmacy. The Say "Hydromorph Contin", then the "PF" logo, and the dosage.

Someone posted some pictures of the same kind of capsules recently, I wish I had my camera to take pictures... aha! This link has a picture of the 12mg pill: http://www.pharmer.org/node/3377

There are tons of people selling those things around here. For the past week, nobody seems to have any oxys, but they all have hydromorphs.


I never said they were not availbe in Canda, I just said they were pulled from the US market...