View Full Version : Question about a presctiption!
AceBeans
07-02-2006, 09:36 PM
I wen to the pharmacty today (rite aid) to have a prescription filled for Lortab 7.5/500 this script is not for me personally. It has my old mans name on it, don' t worry about me stealing drugs that he needs because the script is from mid june and he will not fill the script so I might as well take advantage if I can.
When I was in Rite Aid they were about to feel the script but my dumbass didn't know my fathers birthday and they didn't have any of his information on hand so basically I could have told them anything they wanted. They wanted to call my dad so I made another stupid move and gave them my fathers phone number, they called him and got all his information. They wrote his address birthdate and phone number on the script and they were about to fill it. Then my father calls back and tells them they he does not want it filled, I asked the pharmacist to use the phone so I could call him and get him to allow me to fill it. I call him and tell him that I need it filled because of a previous kidney stone operation I had which I am still experiencing pain from. At this point the pharmacist heard me telling my dad that I was going to be taking them and refused to fill the perscription.
My question is he wrote all that information on the script, phone number address and birthdate. He also wrote something that looks like NKA on it or a weird looking NYA but I am pretty sure it is a K. Is this some kind of pharmacy code for other pharmacists not to fill the script? The only thing i've been able to find on the net about it is that NKA means no known allergies but I didn't hear him ask my father about anything pertaining to allergies. So basically my question is will I be able to take this to a pharmacy tomorrow and get it filled? Also would it hurt to put a dash through the part that has his phone number and put a different number in there?
I'm punching myself now because the pharmacist had no information on my father and I could have basically told them anything I wanted to.
Thanks in advance for your help.
chemboy7
07-02-2006, 09:56 PM
I wen to the pharmacty today (rite aid) to have a prescription filled for Lortab 7.5/500 this script is not for me personally. It has my old mans name on it, don' t worry about me stealing drugs that he needs because the script is from mid june and he will not fill the script so I might as well take advantage if I can.
When I was in Rite Aid they were about to feel the script but my dumbass didn't know my fathers birthday and they didn't have any of his information on hand so basically I could have told them anything they wanted. They wanted to call my dad so I made another stupid move and gave them my fathers phone number, they called him and got all his information. They wrote his address birthdate and phone number on the script and they were about to fill it. Then my father calls back and tells them they he does not want it filled, I asked the pharmacist to use the phone so I could call him and get him to allow me to fill it. I call him and tell him that I need it filled because of a previous kidney stone operation I had which I am still experiencing pain from. At this point the pharmacist heard me telling my dad that I was going to be taking them and refused to fill the perscription.
My question is he wrote all that information on the script, phone number address and birthdate. He also wrote something that looks like NKA on it or a weird looking NYA but I am pretty sure it is a K. Is this some kind of pharmacy code for other pharmacists not to fill the script? The only thing i've been able to find on the net about it is that NKA means no known allergies but I didn't hear him ask my father about anything pertaining to allergies. So basically my question is will I be able to take this to a pharmacy tomorrow and get it filled? Also would it hurt to put a dash through the part that has his phone number and put a different number in there?
I'm punching myself now because the pharmacist had no information on my father and I could have basically told them anything I wanted to.
Thanks in advance for your help.
NKA = No Known Allergies
That being said, a successful pharmacy mind-fuck requires a certain amount of confidence (balls of steal, and a poker face to boot) and advanced knoweledge in script writing and general pharmacy practice... the later of which you seem to be lacking. I mean in no way to belittle you, far from it, just a freindly warning that the risk is great and the sentence greater and even the most successful script artist wouldn't try getting CII meds so the benefits from chancing it aren't worth the attempt.
It sounds to me like you got lucky at that Rite Aid... I actually can't believe that the pharmacist gave you back the script. I can assure you that he knew exactly what you were and what you were upto. You have to figure that the pharmacy profession is going to draw more than it's fair share of dope savvy charactors (think necrophiliacs getting into the mortuary business, or pyros becomming firemen)... game recognize game, and the lack thereof. I would count yourself lucky and throw that piece of jail bait in the trash can, why risk imprisonment for a shitty hydro script... it aint worth it brother.
chemboy7
07-02-2006, 10:21 PM
More common script abbriviations (and DEA algorithm cracking) for all...
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=1939&highlight=script+essentials
AceBeans
07-02-2006, 10:55 PM
NKA = No Known Allergies
That being said, a successful pharmacy mind-fuck requires a certain amount of confidence (balls of steal, and a poker face to boot) and advanced knoweledge in script writing and general pharmacy practice... the later of which you seem to be lacking. I mean in no way to belittle you, far from it, just a freindly warning that the risk is great and the sentence greater and even the most successful script artist wouldn't try getting CII meds so the benefits from chancing it aren't worth the attempt.
It sounds to me like you got lucky at that Rite Aid... I actually can't believe that the pharmacist gave you back the script. I can assure you that he knew exactly what you were and what you were upto. You have to figure that the pharmacy profession is going to draw more than it's fair share of dope savvy charactors (think necrophiliacs getting into the mortuary business, or pyros becomming firemen)... game recognize game, and the lack thereof. I would count yourself lucky and throw that piece of jail bait in the trash can, why risk imprisonment for a shitty hydro script... it aint worth it brother.
It's not like I am forging a prescription. This script is legtimate and written by a physician. I have on serveral occasions filled prescriptions for people other than me. I wasn't giving away any type of obvious signs that I was trying to do something illegal, it's not illegal to fill a prescription for someone else is it? I even told the Pharmacist that it was for my father, the problem came when he asked for my fathers information and I told them that I did not know his birthdate. He then said then why don't we just call him and I sad ok because I knew my father wasn't going to care if I got the script filled because he wasn't going to use them. He then called back because he talked to my mom and told the pharmacist not to fill it, then I asked the pharmacist to talk to my parents and he handed me the phone. I then explained to them why I needed the script, they ok'd it but the pharmacist heard that I was going to take them for myself and thats when he refused to fill the script is.
The point is if I would have given the pharmacist fake information or information that I thought was close to what I thought was his birthday he would have filled it no problem. Even after talking to my father and him saying he had no knowledge of the script being filled and asked for his birthday address etc he was still going to fill it.
Basically my question is since he wrote things on the script such as his address phone number birthday etc and the NKA thing is that going to effect another pharmacy filling it. Hell next time I go into a pharmacy I am just going to tell them my name is Roger Boring and give them all of my information, I've never been asked for an ID or anything when going to a pharmacy. They ask for my name social security number and address, it's not like they have a database of everyones information right? If they did why would they ask for all that, just to verify.
The script is straight, I didn't steal a pad and decide to fill it in myself. The only thing I am worried about is all the other information written on the script. The next pharmacy I goto should I tell them that I am Roger Boring or should I be honest and tell them that it is for my father.
There is nothing illegal about filling a script for another person correct?
AceBeans
07-02-2006, 10:56 PM
Oh and BTW Hydrocodone is sched IV if I remember correctly.
chemboy7
07-02-2006, 11:25 PM
Yeah, I wasn't saying that you were forging a script or claiming that Hydrocodone was CII... my point in the matter is your father voided the script and that whole scene that you portrayed would have alerted the pharmacist that you were illigetimately trying to fill a schedualed medication... I mean, nobody would have made such a scene over antibiotics, right? Knowing that your father will do this if called and with the writing all over the script should be enough to make you leary about trying to fill it; but keep in mind also that alot of pharmacies are connected now a days and do share information (mostly for insurance purposes, but also for these matters)... who knows it may be "in the system" that the script is void, or that pharmacist may have just given you the script back and got ahold of all the other local pharmacies to give them a heads up. I, myself, wouldn't risk it... not for a hydro script, that shit is too easy to find online and not worth going to jail over.
chemboy7
07-02-2006, 11:39 PM
even the most successful script artist wouldn't try getting CII meds so the benefits from chancing it aren't worth the attempt.
i.e. if it's not worth it for CII meds then it definately aint for Hydrocodone. :)
Inspektahdek
07-02-2006, 11:53 PM
Oh and BTW Hydrocodone is sched IV if I remember correctly.
It's schedule III, codeine and most benzos are IV
chemboy7
07-02-2006, 11:58 PM
It's schedule III, codeine and most benzos are IV
Yes, indeed Hydrocodone is CIII when mixed with another drug, CII alone.
northernstar
07-03-2006, 12:05 AM
It's not like I am forging a prescription. This script is legtimate and written by a physician. I have on serveral occasions filled prescriptions for people other than me. I wasn't giving away any type of obvious signs that I was trying to do something illegal, it's not illegal to fill a prescription for someone else is it? I even told the Pharmacist that it was for my father, the problem came when he asked for my fathers information and I told them that I did not know his birthdate. He then said then why don't we just call him and I sad ok because I knew my father wasn't going to care if I got the script filled because he wasn't going to use them. He then called back because he talked to my mom and told the pharmacist not to fill it, then I asked the pharmacist to talk to my parents and he handed me the phone. I then explained to them why I needed the script, they ok'd it but the pharmacist heard that I was going to take them for myself and thats when he refused to fill the script is.
The point is if I would have given the pharmacist fake information or information that I thought was close to what I thought was his birthday he would have filled it no problem. Even after talking to my father and him saying he had no knowledge of the script being filled and asked for his birthday address etc he was still going to fill it.
Basically my question is since he wrote things on the script such as his address phone number birthday etc and the NKA thing is that going to effect another pharmacy filling it. Hell next time I go into a pharmacy I am just going to tell them my name is Roger Boring and give them all of my information, I've never been asked for an ID or anything when going to a pharmacy. They ask for my name social security number and address, it's not like they have a database of everyones information right? If they did why would they ask for all that, just to verify.
The script is straight, I didn't steal a pad and decide to fill it in myself. The only thing I am worried about is all the other information written on the script. The next pharmacy I goto should I tell them that I am Roger Boring or should I be honest and tell them that it is for my father.
There is nothing illegal about filling a script for another person correct?
Sounds to me like this phamacist was being pretty cool..most are worse pricks about anything good. Changeing anything on it will look bad...expecaily the contact number. if your good at foregry teqniqes u could try..removeing the old ink in a non fucked up looking way ( slow picking at crusty type ink with thin needle,very carefuly...if its gel your going to need ether, but it could stain.)
the fact the script is old also raises eyebrows, another pharmcist may call the prescibeing doc.
its standerd to require the person getting the script to be present..except in cases of aged? sickness, ect...then for anything good a call is done. other then the foregry you could..the
1. pretend to be him and hope your age diffrence,ect dosent get you fucked. risky
2. convince dad to play ball and say its for him when called...then try at a new pharmacy, this is best.
3. arrange for a buddy to be at dads house, him gone , and coordinate the attempt at a new pharmacy this way. buddy acts like dad. or buddy could try filling and u be dad.
i doubt he alerted other pharmacys over the phone, he just couldent fill it and cover his own ass after hearing your converation. you may assume any other rite-aid may say "person whos named only" or flagged. fyi.....i have to eat like 10 of those to feel much....and more then a 2-3 is getting into dangerous liver tarrtory becuse of the 500 mg of non-hydro. read up on ways to puify it out.
hope that was helpful anyway
AceBeans
07-03-2006, 12:08 AM
Well my plan was to goto a smaller phamacy instead one of the larger chains. My father has had prescriptions filled at many places and they didn't have his insurance information on file so I don't see how any other pharmacies would have that information on file.
I didn't make a scene about anything, the pharmacist simply said that he was not going to fill the script because he heard me talking on the phone saying that I was going to take them. Don't you think if he cared that much he would have written void on the script or just kept the script and not given it back to me.
Even after he talk to my father on the phone and he said he had no idea I was filling the pharmacist was STILL willing to fill the prescription.
How can it be illegal for me to take a totally legitimate script to pharmacy that was written to someone else and have it filled? The worst thing that could possibly happen would be if police officers actually came and called my father, he would then tell them that he did infact give me permission to fill the prescription. I just don't see where all that paranoia is involved in this. I've picked up prescriptions for other people that were hydrocodone etc and the pharmacists didn't ask any questions at all.
Don't you think you are blowing this out of proportion a little bit? I could see if I stole a pad from a DR and started writing out scripts but this is legitimate. Also there is no way this pharmacist could alert all the pharmacies in the area, there are way to many for this to be possible.
chemboy7
07-03-2006, 12:18 AM
I guess I'm just missing the point. I wouldn't walk into a pharmacy with that messed up, drawn all over, out dated, possibly tagged script if I thought I had a good chance at walking out with lyophilized Dilaudid powder, let alone Vicodin.
northernstar
07-03-2006, 12:27 AM
I guess I'm just missing the point. I wouldn't walk into a pharmacy with that messed up, drawn all over, out dated, possibly tagged script if I thought I had a good chance at walking out with lyophilized Dilaudid powder, let alone Vicodin.
loritabs 7.5...its a rat-hair better then vic's but good point,lol how many tho?
hey could hydrocodone be converted to oxycodone? maybe a dehydration reaction? since your chemboy maybey u know if its worth the effort...
AceBeans
07-03-2006, 12:28 AM
Well it's pretty simple to explain the other writing on the script. I can just tell the pharmacist that I wrote that information on the presctiption because I know thats what they need to know when getting a prescription for someone else. Sorry about the font not sure what I did. What do you think about that explanation, I mean there is nothing else written on the script except his contact information and that NKA thing, and I could just say that he also wrote that on there because he has never been to this pharmacy. I could point to it and says he also has NO KNOWN ALLERGIES. What do you think?
It's 60 pills of 7.5's which will go a pretty good ways for me.
chemboy7
07-03-2006, 12:33 AM
Last word on the subject: if there is 2 different writing styles on an outdated schedualed narcotic script being filled by someone for someone else it is going to bring suspicion in the minds of the dumbest pharmacist, making it a good chance that they will call the prescribing physician and/or your father... both of which would be BAD for you.
northernstar
07-03-2006, 12:36 AM
Well it's pretty simple to explain the other writing on the script. I can just tell the pharmacist that I wrote that information on the presctiption because I know thats what they need to know when getting a prescription for someone else. Sorry about the font not sure what I did. What do you think about that explanation, I mean there is nothing else written on the script except his contact information and that NKA thing, and I could just say that he also wrote that on there because he has never been to this pharmacy. I could point to it and says he also has NO KNOWN ALLERGIES. What do you think?
It's 60 pills of 7.5's which will go a pretty good ways for me.
sounds good too me, 60 is worth effort. ya, id say as littile as possable, act cool. if they ask say you or him put it down to make things easyer. the fact NKA id explaine as " thats how he heard it put, or some such crap. people dont normaly use pharmacist jargon themselves.......but ya, as long as he'll be cool if called, as a backup or maybe they wont call him anyway. Sounds like you got a good shot!
Frontier Psychiatrist
07-03-2006, 01:15 AM
It's not like I am forging a prescription. This script is legtimate and written by a physician. I have on serveral occasions filled prescriptions for people other than me. I wasn't giving away any type of obvious signs that I was trying to do something illegal, it's not illegal to fill a prescription for someone else is it? I even told the Pharmacist that it was for my father, the problem came when he asked for my fathers information and I told them that I did not know his birthdate. He then said then why don't we just call him and I sad ok because I knew my father wasn't going to care if I got the script filled because he wasn't going to use them. He then called back because he talked to my mom and told the pharmacist not to fill it, then I asked the pharmacist to talk to my parents and he handed me the phone. I then explained to them why I needed the script, they ok'd it but the pharmacist heard that I was going to take them for myself and thats when he refused to fill the script is.
The point is if I would have given the pharmacist fake information or information that I thought was close to what I thought was his birthday he would have filled it no problem. Even after talking to my father and him saying he had no knowledge of the script being filled and asked for his birthday address etc he was still going to fill it.
Basically my question is since he wrote things on the script such as his address phone number birthday etc and the NKA thing is that going to effect another pharmacy filling it. Hell next time I go into a pharmacy I am just going to tell them my name is Roger Boring and give them all of my information, I've never been asked for an ID or anything when going to a pharmacy. They ask for my name social security number and address, it's not like they have a database of everyones information right? If they did why would they ask for all that, just to verify.
The script is straight, I didn't steal a pad and decide to fill it in myself. The only thing I am worried about is all the other information written on the script. The next pharmacy I goto should I tell them that I am Roger Boring or should I be honest and tell them that it is for my father.
There is nothing illegal about filling a script for another person correct?
Oh come on man, he didn't ask you to tell the whole story all over again!!!
It's just a bottle of Hydros. That you'd have by the way if you hadn't been so careless.
AceBeans
07-03-2006, 01:24 AM
Oh come on man, he didn't ask you to tell the whole story all over again!!!
It's just a bottle of Hydros. That you'd have by the way if you hadn't been so careless.
I apologize man, I am a little wired right now. Anyways, what do you think my chances are?
bodangly
07-03-2006, 02:28 AM
I'd say they are like 50/50, just try it, like you said, it is a legit prescription and your dad will vouch for you if things go wrong legally, so you don't have all that much to lose.
AceBeans
07-03-2006, 03:06 AM
I had a better idea come to mind! How about having a friend call and sound good and old. Then say he wants to send his son down to a prescription filled and tell them that he had already written all the information on the prescription and that the Dr that see's him is not convered by his sepcific insurance company! How do you guys think that would work??
AceBeans
07-03-2006, 09:45 AM
I used my idea and called the pharmacist and explained to them that I had written the information on the prescription. Prescription was filled and no questions were asked, pharmacist was very polite.
Thanks for the advice but like I said I think you guys might be a bit paranoid. If the Dr happens to mention something to my father about he will say that he gave me permission to fill the prescription.
ZodiacKiller
07-03-2006, 02:59 PM
I don't think that any of the posters that urged you to exercise caution were being 'paranoid', friend. You asked for advice, your situation sounded pretty damn sketchy, and they were just trying to help you not see the inside of a police station. If you honestly think that pharmacists are not suspicious of just about anyone presenting C-II or III scripts, especially outdated, writtten-upon ones for someone they're not prescribed to, then you are very naive. I'd have been afraid to walk into the pharmacy with a script like that, personally...
But you got your stuff, enjoy, and all's well, I guess...
ZK
Phluck
07-03-2006, 04:20 PM
Yeah, for sure, Zodiac is right.
I've gotten very suspicious reactions when I brought in completely legit scripts. Most pharmacies will call the doctor to confirm, and a lot of them won't simply deny you if they're informed it isn't legit, they'll tell you it'll be ready soon, and have the cops show up. Taking someone else's precription is illegal. Whether it's for Dilaudid or some cream for a rash, and if they heard you say you'd be taking someone else's prescription, they could call the police and have you convicted.
You got fairly lucky here, and just 'cause you got away with it doesn't mean others were being paranoid. These people have more experience with this stuff than you do, listen to what they have to say, and be careful.
northernstar
07-03-2006, 04:35 PM
Yeah, for sure, Zodiac is right.
I've gotten very suspicious reactions when I brought in completely legit scripts. Most pharmacies will call the doctor to confirm, and a lot of them won't simply deny you if they're informed it isn't legit, they'll tell you it'll be ready soon, and have the cops show up. Taking someone else's precription is illegal. Whether it's for Dilaudid or some cream for a rash, and if they heard you say you'd be taking someone else's prescription, they could call the police and have you convicted.
You got fairly lucky here, and just 'cause you got away with it doesn't mean others were being paranoid. These people have more experience with this stuff than you do, listen to what they have to say, and be careful.
ya its better to be paranoid and not get screwed then not paranoid and busted. 9 times out of 10 you dont really need to be so careful..but its slacking off on #10 that can get your pooper a vist from bubba..lol your area sounds really laid back tho,
anyway whats the point of asking for advice if you dont want to hear it?
blackdog
07-03-2006, 05:28 PM
just my 3 cents..........
fluch the script and fergit it,you'll be a better person fer it in the long run.
ah well thats my 2 -3 cents worth
maybe i'm just jealous.......not!!!!
da/dawgg:rolleyes:
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