Slammin' & Bangin'

[Zoop]

Ahh-'ite muhfuckuss, wusup?

I's jus tinkin bout slammin summa dees temazepam capsules I got from the docta today.

I done herd about dem guys over in England and shit doin it, but never here in 'merica. Dey get those liquit filt joints dat's eazy to put in da hype. But we got duh capsule dat have powda innit, so how you gon' slam dat?

Jus' aksin' is all.

In all seriousness, I was thinking with a solvent of glycerin/water?

[johnny27]

I'm not sure all benzo are readibly soluble in water, i think i've read that somewhere. But i've injected chlordiazpoxide, opened cap, empited powder, just mixed with water, and it dissolved easily but filtered anyway. Don't know if the same applies to temazies.

[Zoop]

I'm not sure all benzo are readibly soluble in water, i think i've read that somewhere. But i've injected chlordiazpoxide, opened cap, empited powder, just mixed with water, and it dissolved easily but filtered anyway. Don't know if the same applies to temazies.

Yeah, some benzo's are pretty soluble, chlordiazepoxide I'd expect to be, because it has an ionizable functional group on the molecule. I shot some flurazepam (brand name for those is "Dalmane") one time years ago, and those dissolve too, because they are actually a salt. Flurazepam hydrochloride is what it says on the bottle - because there is an amino group hanging off of that molecule.

Most benzo's, though, are relatively insoluble in water, because they are totally neutral, no ability to form salts or anything like that, which is pretty much how all drugs are made into water soluble versions thereof.

I heard once that Valium injection, the kind that's pharmaceutically available has some kind of alcohol and some kind of glycol mixed in with water, so that it keeps the valium dissolved.

so, I though glycerin, which is propylene glycol, might do the trick. It didn't. I won't waste any more of my temazies on this.

[superman]

hey zoop, where did you buy the propylene glycol?

[shaunclo]

I heard once that Valium injection, the kind that's pharmaceutically available has some kind of alcohol and some kind of glycol mixed in with water, so that it keeps the valium dissolved.

Yes you are very correct on this, those val amps definitely have alcohol in them, you can smell it very strongly

[vaxn8]

You can dissolve valium in EtOH. Definitely burns a little, diluting the EtOH helps as well as injecting slowly.

[PantyShot9]

You can dissolve valium in EtOH. Definitely burns a little, diluting the EtOH helps as well as injecting slowly.

What kind is best?

[Zoop]

hey zoop, where did you buy the propylene glycol?

My bad. When I wrote that I had propylene glycol, I had it confused with glycerine, a.k.a. glycerol.

I got a bottle of glycerin, which is available pretty much any drug sto' It's in the skin care section, because apparently, I didn't know this, people use it like a moisturizer just rub it into the skin. It's syrupy and slightly sticky, but the stickiness goes away quickly it's kinda weird substance.

So, you're right in a way, for askin where did I guy the "propylene glycol" because I didn't buy none!

I actually did try using some glycerin, diluted in water, with a few drops isopropyl akky-haw mixed in (this was a total of about 2ml), to dissolve the contents of one 30mg capsule of temazepam, and then attempted to filter it. All I got filtered was like 1/2ml in the hype. It was clear, so I shot it, but didn't feel nothin'. Prolly because I had just eaten 60mg of temazepam and it was kickin in at the same time I shot the stuff. The small amount I got in the syringe couldn't have ended up being more than like 10mg.

[zig]

i thought none of the benzo' did much at at in a shot...eat them.

[devilsdrug]

now zooop dont get caught with the other half comin thru the door

[nick]

Jesus,sorry I'm late with this.DO NOT shoot Temazepam.If they are the same as in the UK.Many addicts have lost limbs or died shooting that shit.There are two types of temazepam caps here known affectionately as "jellies".The contents of one set in the veins leading to a whole host of nasty problems.One of my close friends lost a hand doing that shit.I don't know if this applies to the US,but that is the gig here in the UK.

[Zoop]

Oh yeah, Nick ^^^ I hear ya. I heard that in the UK, the temazepam they have (or used to) comes in liquid-filled gel capsules. Is that it? So, people would just take out the liquid and maybe add a little water and then inject? Is that how they did it. Then I heard that the liquid filled ones stopped being made.

In the U.S., temazepam has always come in a regular powder-filled capsule. So, when I was attempting to inject it, I was trying to make up a solvent mixture which would be safe to inject and which would dissolve the benzo, 'cos benzo's won't dissolve in water.

It didn't work at all, so I ain't tryin that anymore.

Just visited the shrink yesterday ... no, wait a minute FUCK! That was Thursday! Well it seems like it was on Friday. (Sunday morning now - O dark :30) And this shrink gives me an Rx for 30 temazepam 30mg caps, AFTER he gave me one for 90 not two months ago! This time, unfortunately he didnt' write 'dispense 90' on the scrip like he did last time, it was 30 capsules with 2 refills, though.

I was asking the doctor if maybe he could prescribe me some kind of sleep aid that doesn't last as long, like maybe Ambien? (which is shootable - don't take my word for it, do it yourself and you'll be fucking amazed - you gotta filter it real good through). So I asked for ambien because "I heard it only lasts like 3 or 4 hours" and the doctor is like "temazepam is the shortest acting sleeping pill there is. There is absolutely nothing that gets out of your system faster."

I was sitting there thinking how in the fuck could this dude be a doctor? He doesn't know jack about precsription drugs.

BUT, he DID write up that new scrip for temazzies, so I was satisfied.

Also, he prescribes Wellbutrin 300mg XL to me "for depression." I was just sort of chatting with him about wellbutrin as he was writing the scrip and I said something like "man, that stuff is expensive - the wellbutrin XL." And he goes "yes,the XL form of wellbutrin it is rather costly, and it is a highly regulated controlled susbstance, so be careful."

Then I was really thinking "What the fuck?" the dude is so off-base on the meds he's prescribing how do I know he's not fucking up the diagnoses on other patients? Luckily, I see him just to con drugs off him, but shit, ya know?

O.K., ONE LAST THING -

Do benzo's make you eat? Like you get the "munchies" when you're on a benzo? Damn, I was all whacked out on temazepam yesterday and the day before and I ate a lot.

[nick]

Hi Zoop,I'm glad there's a difference between UK temazzes(eggs as we call them) and the US version.You had me worried there.One of my shooting buddies lost a hand to eggs.
This says a lot about pharma companies,eggs used to be liquid and you could just stick the spike straight into the cap.Then they worked out they were being abused so they used a gel instead.Of course no one stopped shooting them.All it took was little heat and the gel became liquid.Only problem was the liquid resolidified minutes later.Sometimes in peoples veins causing much lose of life and limb.
I used to eat a lot and sleep alot when I was on librium.I was actually over weight.Weird for a junky.
I used to eat cartons of ice cream and cold McDonalds,sometimes at the same time.
P.S. You need a good bedside manner with DRS.
P.PS.Hope your veins are still ok.

[AWOL]

like maybe Ambien? (which is shootable - don't take my word for it, do it yourself and you'll be fucking amazed - you gotta filter it real good through)

Hey Zoop, I've never talked with you before, but I remember your thread on Martin Luther King day when your needle feel out of your pocket and I've had it in the back of my head to try slammin a couple Ambie's for a few months now. Well .... it is late, and here's a whole bottle of Ambien just a sittin here ,,, hmmmm. Let ya know how it worked out in the morning :p

[chemboy7]

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[Curio]

I was asking the doctor if maybe he could prescribe me some kind of sleep aid that doesn't last as long, like maybe Ambien? (which is shootable - don't take my word for it, do it yourself and you'll be fucking amazed - you gotta filter it real good through). So I asked for ambien because "I heard it only lasts like 3 or 4 hours" and the doctor is like "temazepam is the shortest acting sleeping pill there is. There is absolutely nothing that gets out of your system faster."
I was sitting there thinking how in the fuck could this dude be a doctor? He doesn't know jack about precsription drugs.
BUT, he DID write up that new scrip for temazzies, so I was satisfied.
Also, he prescribes Wellbutrin 300mg XL to me "for depression." I was just sort of chatting with him about wellbutrin as he was writing the scrip and I said something like "man, that stuff is expensive - the wellbutrin XL." And he goes "yes,the XL form of wellbutrin it is rather costly, and it is a highly regulated controlled susbstance, so be careful."
Then I was really thinking "What the fuck?" the dude is so off-base on the meds he's prescribing how do I know he's not fucking up the diagnoses on other patients? Luckily, I see him just to con drugs off him, but shit, ya know?
O.K., ONE LAST THING -

Do benzo's make you eat? Like you get the "munchies" when you're on a benzo? Damn, I was all whacked out on temazepam yesterday and the day before and I ate a lot.

What's the goal here Zoop with the temazepam or sleeping pills? I mean, ya know, since we're not the doctor you're trying to finagle these :p Rxs outta, lol... You gotta have a translation when you tell these stories so we know what you MEANT and what you SAID to the doctor as opposed to what you were ----*ziiiing*---- "fishing" or "trolling" for! All 'booooard The S.S. 'SMSHS' aka ScribbleMeSomeHappyScripts!
Wellbutrin is like 30 friggin years old and it's ridiculous that it should cost anything more than any standard generic med....all they did is rebatch it for controlled release (in the XL version, anyway!) and MARKET THE CRAP TO the PUBLIC....OH YEAH...they gotta pay for "R & D".....whatever! The taxpayers provide a lot of those costs already through "research" assistance grants/funding, etc..and besides uh....hello, it was ALREADY on the market as an FDA-approved RX med
i digress....pardon!! re:benzos?
They make me do NOTHING....aka sleep:p

[30_Units]

I was asking the doctor if maybe he could prescribe me some kind of sleep aid that doesn't last as long, like maybe Ambien? (which is shootable - don't take my word for it, do it yourself and you'll be fucking amazed - you gotta filter it real good through).

O.K., ONE LAST THING -

Do benzo's make you eat? Like you get the "munchies" when you're on a benzo? Damn, I was all whacked out on temazepam yesterday and the day before and I ate a lot.



LOL, That's crazy, I actually had my first experience injecting zolpidem the other night after running out of k4's....I shaved off the coating on the pill and cotton'ed twice, Came out with a cloudy, off-white solution. Felt a little trepidation after reading about the microcrystalline cellulose on google causing all sorts of problems, but shot it anyway :coughcough: retard :coughcough:

The rush is unique and tasty!
I really liked it a lot and would reccomend it to friends.

As for benzos causing munchies? Fuck yes...spend 6 years on 10+ mg's of xanax and you'll get a lil' munchy, but hey, who cares, you're on xanax!

[AWOL]

mmmm, I decided against slammin the Ambien, I haven't gone to sleep yet. I haven't used needles in a long while, no need to start again. :rolleyes:

[Levity]

Zoop, get a new fucking doctor.

[Zoop]

In reference to your post, Levity ^^^^ up there. (I forgot to hit the quote button)

I do have another doctor. Actually two other doctors. The shrink (the one I'm talking about in this thread) is not a total idiot, I mean he knows how to write "temazepam disp. #30 (thirty) sig - 1t Q HS"
and then write a "2" in the "refills" thing at the bottom of the pad, then scribble his signature.

So he's not a total waste.

In reference to comaTOES:

The goal is just to get meds. I am not clinically depressed at the moment, but I do indeed sometimes have trouble sleeping, and the wellbutrin increases the energ level sometimes, when I use it.

And you're right about the stuff being out on the market for sale for so long. But the product that's available generic is only the old-fashioned immediate-release tablets. Bupropion is a good antidepressant for patients who don't respond to serotonin increasing type drugs (SSRI's, tricyclics, and probably some others I can't think of). The problem with it is that it has a short half-life, so it needs to be dosed three times a day, if you're using the plain old immediate release tablets.

So that's why the "XL" version is attractive to psychiatrists nowadays. As for the reason it's so expensive, Glaxo did have to invent a tablet formulation that would release bupropion slowly over a 24 hour period, so there was some R&D involved. I agree though it could be cheaper.

Phew! that was long.

[Zoop]

__________________ ooops, double post

[Narkotikon]

i thought none of the benzo' did much at at in a shot...eat them.

I know that Versed and Ativan can be given IV, I think maybe Valium too, but I'm not sure. If you're ever in a psych facility, they love to give "difficult (i.e., people they don't want to deal with)" patients a cocktail of Haldol, Ativan, and Benadryl IV. Of course if you tell them you're an addict (or, rather, your nosey family tells them), then you just get the Haldol and the shuffle. It sucks.

[Opiyum]

Yeah, some benzo's are pretty soluble, chlordiazepoxide I'd expect to be, because it has an ionizable functional group on the molecule. I shot some flurazepam (brand name for those is "Dalmane") one time years ago, and those dissolve too, because they are actually a salt. Flurazepam hydrochloride is what it says on the bottle - because there is an amino group hanging off of that molecule.

Most benzo's, though, are relatively insoluble in water, because they are totally neutral, no ability to form salts or anything like that, which is pretty much how all drugs are made into water soluble versions thereof.

I heard once that Valium injection, the kind that's pharmaceutically available has some kind of alcohol and some kind of glycol mixed in with water, so that it keeps the valium dissolved.

so, I though glycerin, which is propylene glycol, might do the trick. It didn't. I won't waste any more of my temazies on this.

Zoop i may have misread but I just shot up a 30mg temazi with just water and filter and no heat and it went in fine. Dissolved perfectly too. No trouble with it at all.
No rush or anything and I really prefer eating them but u felt like shooting something thats all. anyway unless i misread i would suggest just trying water mazzy no heat filter shoot.

[Chipper]

Zoop i may have misread but I just shot up a 30mg temazi with just water and filter and no heat and it went in fine. Dissolved perfectly too. No trouble with it at all.
No rush or anything and I really prefer eating them but u felt like shooting something thats all. anyway unless i misread i would suggest just trying water mazzy no heat filter shoot.

I think Zoop is talking about the gel-cap versions. Folks heat them up to make them liquid but then they recrystallize in the bloodstream.

[Opiyum]

Yeah but he mentioned powdered capsules thats what thru me off

[OpiGuRu729]

can you bang clonazepam?

[Opiyum]

You can but in general pills aren't designed to be injected. I'm guilty of it but it's not as if there is a rush involved with shooting benzo's and if there were you be asleep before you felt it. Kinda like when they punch a few milligrams of ativan in you at the hospital. Your happy about it but dont get to enjoy it. So I wouldn't reccomend it but I do it.
I can't remember for sure but i believe that Clonaze is one of the water soluble ones along with ativan and another but even so the pill form will be best absorbed when eatin.
I know snorting it is worthless....but i still did it on occasion. yeah jnust eatem