Have You Ever OD'd?

[Citricburn]

How many people here have ever overdosed?

I have.....twice...

[Chipper]

4 times (one time requiring 3 Narcan shots)

[nick]

Maybe define od a little more clearly.

[Thanat0s]

need a yes, h yes, other...

just sayin...

[Suboxstitute]

4 times (one time requiring 3 Narcan shots)


WHOA! Chipper - are you really still a chipper?

Glad you made it back from the brink to chip away another day. Be careful!

Sue

[TigerFan]

Yep, I'm no stranger to activated charcoal. Benzos have that habit of making you forget just how many benzos you took so you take more benzos.

[matfield]

yes i od'd once on h but it was probably due to some cut in it....i collapsed and got a grand mal seizure right after the hit. thank god i was not alone.
today..if i had a serious od i would probably die because i'm always using alone at home. most of the time at night...like right now.
i can remember after my detox last year..when i started to use again...i did a shot after a night working in the club, drinking loads of alkohol and then it hit me so hard i knew this was very strong but i couldnt do anything and i fell to the kitchen floor where i immediately fell asleep- but thank god i did awake again.

its such a fucking dangerous game to play and so not worth it to die for IMHO..:(

[hansardo]

Oh yeah, there's no forgetting when that happened. I had kicked a few weeks before; basically got sick of the monkey. But, alas, I relapsed because the chronic issues I have with pain had me run ragged. So when I copped a BUNCH of oxy IR's I got a little crazy but thought I was okay until I took one more shot and as soon as the needles was out of my arm and I was going to have a smoke all the sudden BOOM. I was sweating bullets, my veins were punching out all over me, was bright red, and my equalibreum was just GONE. The scariest thing was that it felt like a huge weight was on my lungs... I could only take these weak little baby breathes. It felt like I was breathing through a straw and it got bad enough for a second my fingernails went blue. I was fucking FREAKED. I stumbled to the bathroom and puked and passed out. When I came to a minute or to later I crawled in the shower and blasted myself with cold water trying to stimulate my body in any way possible. Even started jumping up and down. Eventually I fought off the feeling that I was gonna suffocate and die or that my heart was gonna stop and lay down in bed. I was okay but man was that a friggin reality check or what?

A couple of other times I came close, but that was the absolute scariest and worst OD experience I've had.

[TigerFan]

^^
Had a similar experience with H, methadone, and benzos. You described it perfectly, it's very frightening.

[hydro chris]

nope, but back in the day all those nights of goin to bed and wakein up wit a
slamin headache and pukin my ass off from opies, benzos and booze, i do wounder how many time iv come close..
it really does scares me

[SHELLEY]

i don't know what counts as an "overdose"
but probably, yeah

enough IV coke to cause a 20 minute blackout, complete with a seizure and uncontrollable psychotic screaming
counts as an OD no matter how you define it

[Fat Pie]

Never OD'd on H where I stopped breathing and had to be taken to hospital to be given a shot of Narcan/Naloxone/Naltrexone (all the same thing). However, I have blacked out twice and woken up on the floor after having taken large shots of H, having had no memory of blacking out or falling over, and in one case my head was swimming and I was having a bit of difficulty breathing properly; it was like I had just drowned and was being revived, even though I had woken up after someone had just tapped my leg from behind the door I was blocking.

Would these count as technical overdoses (since I did take to much and lost consciousness/my breathing slowed down drastically)?

[The_Highwayman]

I have overdosed three times. First was at home and late at night my
mom was up and noticed it was way too late for me to have my light on. She opened the door and found my lips were purple. She called 911 and had me go to the hospital that was the first that my parents found out I was using. Second time was a Dunkin Donuts bathroom and i guess I locked myself in the bathroom for two long and the guy went to check and saw me on the ground. He called 911 and I went to the hospital. This time I wasnt so licky as it took them a bit to kickstart my heart back. That was another tough conversation with the folks. A third time was at my old job with a friend of mine and i thoight I jusy nodded but he swears I was gone and he said I was blue etc and he saved me

[Thanat0s]

i don't know what counts as an "overdose"
but probably, yeah

enough IV coke to cause a 20 minute blackout, complete with a seizure and uncontrollable psychotic screaming
counts as an OD no matter how you define it

i did that three times, speedball into my caroidid artery. -gone-

[duck]

I have never had a legit, fall out of copiousness OD. It's hard with oxy prices the way they are!

[hovadagod]

I don't know if I have but once I "woke up" squatting in front of an open cabinet with a needle in my butt after doing fent. Did at least an mg.

just kidding of course.

[limitless_euphoria]

I O.D.ed in October 2005. I was in the bathroom blowing dope, mind you, I'd been clean since JUNE 2005!

I was in the bathroom, on the floor, blue, I was having a hard time breathing and I played it off as an asthma attack. Mrs. LE gave me her albuteral inhaler and that was just enough. If you have one around and you think you might of done too much, USE IT. IT MIGHT HELP YOU. But, if necessary get the help you need. That shit ain't dying for.

I'm not a doctor (although sometimes I like to pretend) but that's purely might harm reduction insight. If you have one it couldn't hurt to try as it gets the adrenaline pumpin'.

[bodytec]

i did that three times, speedball into my caroidid artery. -gone-

really?
i have only heard of shelly and one other person doing the screaming thing.
it is CRAZZZZY to see

[SHELLEY]

i did that three times, speedball into my caroidid artery. -gone-

i didn't like speedballs, i'd go back to back with h and c but together felt wrong to me
i just would backload 10 units of south florida blow
and then it'd be way later, all my folks freaked out, tie still around my bloody wrist
fucked up shit, man

[kellyblue]

Came way too close... I posted about it here.

[squareone]

i smoke heroin and I rarely even get really high, just slight nods. I prefer to chip. Also the quality of the tar I get compared to others is shit. But one time i almost ODed, I think. I was going to an Eek-a-Mouse concert and I had been taking Klonopin for 3 days. Before the concert i got a pint of vodka and popped 1.5mg of klonopin, I drank the pint and then smoked around .7 of tar. I could barely walk and these chicks kept giving me drinks, I passed out in the crowed a friend walked me to the light rail and i passed out on that. Luckely I never got caught because I had 10 grams of heroin on me and I was 17 at the time. I know soo fucking STUPID!

[DreamCatcher]

Yes, on down once...not fun...good thing it was at my best friends house...he though i was joking at first, but after slapping me in da face a couple of times, believed the sad truth and called 911...which I am obviously extremley greatfull for...

[Papa Verine]

Once shooting heroin after drinking.

Once from WAY too much methadone.

I don't consider it an OD if you can slap yourself in the face or climb into a shower and turn on the cold water... That might have been a close call... but don't you have to at least be unconcious to consider it an OD?

[struggler]

A fent and xanax combo after being clean a few weeks is what got me

[Tony]

I have never had to have Narcan or go to the ER.

Many times I have had heart race after shot of Meth or Coke and
had to Drink Whisky bottle till heart slowed down.

Also many times blacked out after doing seconal or ludes
or other downs and drinking. I count these times as being
closest to doing the blue lip boogie. Also recently Swim was
smokin dried fent gel and had that feeling of not being able
to breathe for a few.... Scary shit if you think about it!

Peace!

[Citricburn]

I was going to an Eek-a-Mouse concert...


Props for that matey...

[Fat Pie]

I told this story before (about the police anyway), but here are some more details, since it was an OD (not on H, but coke), and is relevant to the thread's theme, which is ODing:

Like I said, I OD'd on coke once, after snorting around 15 lines of really pure, crystallised cocaine. I threw up, started blushing, twitching and shaking uncontrollably, my heartbeat and temperature went up, and I felt what I thought was a headache coming on. However, instead of having a heart attack or blacking out, as per a regular OD, before I knew it I found myself writhing around on my bed, screaming in agony; a jolt of pain would hit the back of my head/neck, then travel all the way down my spine and hit my kidneys. This happened every three seconds or so, and I was forced to call an ambulance. Oxygen did nothing for the pain (I breathed through a whole tank until I couldn't feel my legs, and I was still in near debilitating pain). I had to tighten my jaw closed as hard as I could to prevent myself from literally screaming in pain. My heartbeat at rest was around 150 bpm I think.

The doctors and nurses had no idea what it was, so they simply left me on a bed in a private room and asked for a sample of urine. They chose not to use any drugs on me, as the reaction with what I already had in my blood system might have been dangerous. I believe after writhing around for another few minutes, the pain started to die down and I passed out. Then, when I woke up, I vomited in the sink (the second time I had vomited that night, the first being at home). They took some blood and urine samples, and put me on a saline drip to rehydrate me, which really helped, as I was red hot and had lost plenty of fluid.

Once I finished the drip, I was sent home, but was almost too weak to stand when I woke up in bed the next day. The police visited me because the nurses noticed the marks on my arm, and one of them must have stupidly informed the police (I think I know which one; she was Irish, and quite nice to me, but very hostile towards my dad; I stopped my mother from coming, because she had a hard job and I didn't want to distress her any further with my pain; I think the nurse got it into her head that because my mum wasn't there, my dad wasn't scolding me for what I'd done, and that my drug use seemed to be accepted, that they were both bad parents, which is completely untrue, and thus tried to intervene by involving the police. Their information was all wrong and they didn't seem to care (they even phoned ahead to tell me they were coming to my house, and I got dressed in case they wanted to arrest me for possession of drugs), they just took some notes and left. I never heard from the police again.

In short, it was the worst pain I'd ever felt; I know the coke wasn't off, or badly cut, or tampered with or anything like that because a friend of mine had two or three lines too and he was fine. I knew I'd snorted way too much, and I wouldn't have had I been able to get some H that day. I wanted to get high and avoid withdrawal symptoms, but as all coke takers know, snorting a drug means time is needed to allow it to enter the bloodstream, and the effects of coke can be rather subtle (nothing like the knock-you-on-your-ass effect that H has), and you end up wanting to take more and more of it to get high, which can lead to an overdose. Anyway, I have no idea what happened to me, and neither did the doctors or the nurses. The blood test answered nothing. My GP had some sort of explanation, but I think she misinterpreted my symptoms, because what she seemed to be describing was a panic attack or heart palpitations brought on by rapid overdose of cocaine. I was in definite, debilitating pain. If anyone can read the above symptoms I experienced and has any idea what that was, or either experienced or knew someone who experienced that, and can tell me what happened to me, I would be grateful.

i did that three times, speedball into my caroidid artery. -gone-

You injected into an artery! Dude, didn't that hurt? Injected into an artery is known to cause immense pain, and swelling in the immediate area (because of the sensitive nerves and tissue that surrounds the insides of arteries)! Even with a painkiller like H or a local anaesthetic like coke, the pain would be immense! Not questioning your credibility or anything, but are you sure it was your artery?

Ah, you've also brought back my memory of the few occasions (three times in total) where I managed to have coke and H at the same time (often just by accident), and cooked up speedballs (once at Christmas while the folks were away, an accident as a result of buying some C that was available while waiting for my dope connection; best Christmas ever!); wow! So powerful, almost orgasmic! I have heard of the danger of speedballing, but it seems to be based on the false premise that mixing a stimulant with a depressant is somehow dangerous, like we have a balance of uppers and downers in our blood stream or something! Usually, a downer mixed with a downer is far more dangerous, like mixing benzos or H with alcohol; that is almost always lethal! Never do it (I'm sure you know that, of course)! The primary danger in a speedball comes from the coke damaging the heart, rather than the rumours of it 'masking' an overdose or somehow being a lethal mix (coke would do nothing to prevent an H overdose).
There's always danger from mixing drugs, but the speedball legend is rather overstated thanks to the deaths of celebrities like John Belushi (what the news stories don't often tell you is that he was being injected with speedballs all night by his hooker/dealer, even when he was unconscious! Is it any wonder he died? Some people seem to think he just took a speedball and suddenly died: not true at all. His body weight was also a major factor in his death).

I O.D.ed in October 2005. I was in the bathroom blowing dope, mind you, I'd been clean since JUNE 2005!

Of course; lowered tolerance is a factor in many OD's or deaths caused by Heroin alone. The subject stops using for a long time, or even a short while, goes back, takes his regular dose (or buys dope which has by now increased in purity for whatever reason) and OD's. Thank God you lived!

i didn't like speedballs, i'd go back to back with h and c but together felt wrong to me
i just would backload 10 units of south florida blow
and then it'd be way later, all my folks freaked out, tie still around my bloody wrist
fucked up shit, man

I had a prodigious fear of speedballs; I never set out to try one when I started H, but one time I found myself with 2 grams of H and 2 grams of C, so I just had to take the opportunity to try it out. The result was bliss, but I held off on going nuts and getting addicted. One substance at a time is enough for me, and far less expensive to boot. It did help dispel the myth about speedballs being a one-way ticket to hell, but I choose to save the magic mix for special occasions, such as birthdays and Christmas, since getting both drugs at the same can be difficult. My birthday's comin' up on Saturday, so I've planned ahead! I'll tell ya how old I am then, and cook up a speedball to celebrate. I'll post a thread about it; wish me luck!

Once shooting heroin after drinking.

Like I said, alcohol + H = almost certain OD, and an equal chance of death! H depresses breathing, and alcohol depresses the CNS (Central Nervous System), which slows down breathing even further. You fall unconscious and suffocate. This often happens after one drinks and does H, but not after one does H and drinks (probably because the drug has already set in by then; I actually found that doing H and then trying to drink alcohol is very difficult indeed). I actually stopped drinking because of H; it was just too dangerous mixing the two together, as being both an alcoholic and a junkie is not only expensive, but very dangerous. One person I heard of died while smokingH after he got drunk. Some addicts get depressed when they can't get any H, go into withdrawal, get drunk to numb the pain/get some sleep (alcohol disrupts sleep, rather than helps it) suddenly get hooked up, take some in desperation and end up dying as a result. Strangely enough, H stopped my desire to drink completely. I just couldn't continue with my alcoholism afterwards, not out of choice, but just out of sudden revulsion at alcohol. At first I thought it was because I'd found a better high in H, but I've tried drinking since, even while clean and sober from H, and I just can't manage it. I can still chase down the odd bottle of wine, but even when I'm clean for long periods (i.e. on holiday) I stop after a day or two and can't start again. I now find whiskey, wine and beer near undrinkable; I won't even sip or smell those beverages, or even spirits mixed into soft drinks. I know that H is hardly a substitute, but I don't see it that way, otherwise I would have simply gone back to drinking when I stopped H. Not only do I not want to drink, I can't. It holds no interest for me any longer, and in the long run, has probably saved my life. I realise H could kill me in one go with an OD, but at least I'm able to control that to an extent. I don't need a shot like I used to need a drink, i.e. all the time. My liver, my job and my social life have thanked me for it, and I now consider myself a proud teetotaller.

[Citricburn]

Fat Pie, im not bein funny mate but i think your a bit condescending in your ways, it's like your tryin to educate people who have been in the game a lot longer than yourself...you only bein 18 an all and all your facts seem like you have just been very busy on google..naloxone and naltrexone are chemically related but used for very different things..naltrexone is the other ingredient in subutex (bupe/naltrexone) and is used to deter opiate use/manage addiction, naloxone on the other hand is used to bring people out of OD, you obviously are a user of H but a lot of your facts are misguided, such as saying using alcohol on top gear is 'almost certain' to cause an overdose, lots and lots of people (including myself) have been pissed (some times very pissed) and had a good old dig and been fine...you seem like a nice enough lad but I just think some of your comments are very assumed/misguided..

[harryhood2001]

I have heard before, by Courtney Love I think, and I believe it to be true. She said, "there are those that turn blue, and those that don't". In my experience this is true. I have had friends that seemed to OD all the time. I and several other using aquantances Ive had have tried to OD and couldnt. I have OD before on accident. I dont know how it happened other than getting really good gear, but I cant imagine a more comfortable way to die. I know it seems tragic when a junkie dies, but for some it could be a relief. As most of us know, opiate addiction can and usually is unbelievably difficult, and that is an understatment. I when I OD'd, I just remember getting that unbelievable rush and thinking to myself,"Uh-oh, Im going out", and that was it,once I just went out, and dont remember anything but when I was brought around and came to conscousness, once I most defininety remember floating above my body and ,"the seen", until I suddenly opened my eyes and I was back in my body, but like I said out of the years of opiate abuse, I have only OD'd twice, to where others I knew seem to OD alot, most of those that I remember ODing alot are dead, in jail, and very few maybe one or two in recovery. I would like to experience real recovery like I have witnessed in others, however so far I have not had the fortitude, or longevity, and it only take two days of use now after being clean for months to regain my habit as it was before I went through hell to kick.

[TheJuggla1207]

i was a pill head for the majority of my opiate career and i never pushed myself so i can say no. i mean if i new 60mg would get me nice and high i would do 60mg and thats it. i mean there were times when i was real real high cuz i was taking big doses throughout the day that after my last dose i felt real real fucked up and couldnt really move much and had the feeling like i was gonna puke so i would force myself to throw up and than would fell much better.

although one time back in may 08 when my tolerance still wasnt much and i could get by on dosing just twice a day was the closest ive ever been. it was the second to last day of my senior year of college and i didnt have any finals that day and only had one left the following day. so the night before this day me n all my roommates and a few other college friends went to the bar the night b4 and we got real fucked up. i woke up that day (it was a wednesday) with a bad hangover and had to go to work for a few hours. once i got to work round noon i snorted an oc40. after work i went back to my dorm and around 7pm snorted a 40mg opana. the dude that gave it to me said 40mg of it was like an oc80, which i had tried for the first time a week prior, snorted the whole 80 and was fine, just real blasted. well immediately after railing the opana i was annihilated, it felt much much stronger than 80mg of oxy. i spent that night stumbling around the campus, barely able to talk or keep my eyes open, but i felt it wasnt an OD cuz i was able to breathe normally, and my vitals were good (my one roommates girlfriend was a nursing major so i had her check me out). so i was just real real fucked up, coulda been on the verge of an OD, but was able to stay awake til i started to come down and than had the most pleasant night of sleep ever. oh and one thing to add, that fuckin opana had me high til like 3am. them bitches can last.

towards the end of my opiate career, like the last month or so b4 i got on subs, i started snorting H. pills were starting to get way over priced cuz there was only 1 pill dealer left in my area, so he controlled the market (like 20 bucks for a 15mg oxy-ir and 75 for an oc80). he wasnt around one payday and i knew someone who could get fire diesel. so i started buyin H from his dealers. and every time i got a bag, even if it was the same batch from the same dealer as the day before, i only usually snorted a quarter of the bag to see how strong it was, while the other people in the car would shoot up like 4-5 bags and not worry bout a test shot. one chick was pretty fuckin close to ODin. and these were .2g (200mg) bags of some of the finest quality Philly tan, and the bags were fat as shit. so while i was snorting .05g (or 50mg) at first to make sure it wasnt too strong or the cut was fucked up and work my way up, these assholes were shooting .8-1g at a time and going balls to the wall.

so to make a long story short, i never ODed, but i think i might been kinda close the time with the opana.

[edhorfin]

Never OD'd on H where I stopped breathing and had to be taken to hospital to be given a shot of Narcan/Naloxone/Naltrexone (all the same thing). However, I have blacked out twice and woken up on the floor after having taken large shots of H, having had no memory of blacking out or falling over, and in one case my head was swimming and I was having a bit of difficulty breathing properly; it was like I had just drowned and was being revived, even though I had woken up after someone had just tapped my leg from behind the door I was blocking.

Would these count as technical overdoses (since I did take to much and lost consciousness/my breathing slowed down drastically)?

counts

[AnitaFix]

3 official overdoses which required a hospital visit/paramedics..narcan i think 1-2 times.
You can sometimes do without...

But other then that numerous times I had close calls, wake up feeling really weird ..huge
headache can't hear properly, all cold etc,. & still fucked but not high if you know what i mean.

Once in my friends car an "unofficial" od took place. I was out cold for 45min.. no stimuli
would rouse me at all, burned a great big hole in my thigh with a cigarette. They was about
ready to inject me with salt, shit man... it doesnt work but the myth does circulate.I cam to
when they started rolling up my sleve basically..didn't know what happened & the scared look
on their faces made me laugh actually, like i caught a nod or something..

Every time an OD took place I was chipping, didn't have a big habit yet. I seriously doubt I will
OD again these days, ofcourse I don't test it but this is perhaps the only benefit of being hooked
that you can do 2-3 times your usual dose & be alright while an infrequent user cannot

[edhorfin]

Fat Pie, im not bein funny mate but i think your a bit condescending in your ways, it's like your tryin to educate people who have been in the game a lot longer than yourself...you only bein 18 an all and all your facts seem like you have just been very busy on google..naloxone and naltrexone are chemically related but used for very different things..naltrexone is the other ingredient in subutex (bupe/naltrexone) and is used to deter opiate use/manage addiction, naloxone on the other hand is used to bring people out of OD, you obviously are a user of H but a lot of your facts are misguided, such as saying using alcohol on top gear is 'almost certain' to cause an overdose, lots and lots of people (including myself) have been pissed (some times very pissed) and had a good old dig and been fine...you seem like a nice enough lad but I just think some of your comments are very assumed/misguided..

My suboxone had Naloxone in it, not Naltrexone. I was scripted Naltrexone in the early 80's before it was widely used. Pretty powerful stuff. Just a tiny bit absorbed in my mouth before I could spit it out was enough to block 12 mgs of IV dilaudid AND several hundred dollars worth of IV H, before I gave up on that experiment and decided to believe the doctors.

Pretty sure the Naloxone is in the suboxone to deter IV use, since Naloxone's oral bioavailabilty is almost nil and its parenteral bioavailability is very high.

[harryhood2001]

Edhorfin,swim experienced the same thing. Once swim put a suboxone in his mouth and as soon as the nurse turned her head, he spit it out. I know that just enough of the pill was desoveld to take the numers or writing off, but it was enough to block the gram of H he did the rest of the day, trying in vain to break through. He has been sick in the morning unsure as to wether or not he would be able to copp, so he took a quarter of a sub, and a few hours later WAS able to score and fixed and got high. I know that this really confused him as he thought about the time when just the tiniest fraction, blocked his efforts. However Subs never seem to confuse him, as he told me it was the most inconsistant drug he has ever exerienced. He personally HATES subs, except for completely short term detoxes. It never has done anything for him or me. Hasnt taken the cravings away, and barely taken the sick off, still was unable to eat, until he was completely detoxed.

[Citricburn]

My suboxone had Naloxone in it, not Naltrexone. I was scripted Naltrexone in the early 80's before it was widely used. Pretty powerful stuff. Just a tiny bit absorbed in my mouth before I could spit it out was enough to block 12 mgs of IV dilaudid AND several hundred dollars worth of IV H, before I gave up on that experiment and decided to believe the doctors.

Pretty sure the Naloxone is in the suboxone to deter IV use, since Naloxone's oral bioavailabilty is almost nil and its parenteral bioavailability is very high.

Yeh my mistake...although the two are very different naltraxone is used for addiction management, and naloxone is in Suboxone and used for OD situations....but certainly not the same thing as Fat Pue said earlier...

[Suboxer]

I have never overdosed to the point that I required medical intervention on opioids alone. I probably came close a few times with large shots of morphine, or my first shot of 16mg (hey, it's 16mg! I have a 120mg oxy habit! How strong can it be?) of dilaudid.

I have overdosed a few times (twice requiring professional help, once requiring putting myself into pwd with Subs - YES, IME, Subs CAN be used as an antidote to overdose if someone is sufficiently tolerant to opioids.) Both times I required something to pull me out of it were combinations of multiple downers.

One time was pot (whatever the literature might say, this DOES make dope stronger, and more easy to od on), H, a fifth of Sailor Jerry's, and a number of 2mg Ativan (OD waiting to happen, I was blacked out) This required seven vials/shots of Narcan. I was nearly intubated.

The next time was Demerol (yes, demerol.), a handful or Fioricet, a couple Soma, some coke, a bunch of Miller High Life, and a capful of GHB (that I remember). This required god knows how much to wake me up, and an overnight stay in the hospital.

The next time was simple - methadone, MHL, and restoril. I woke up with a suboxone in my mouth in agony. The last overdose I had was 7 years ago. I wised up a bit. I've never overdosed without first blacking out, and alcohol and at least one other CNS depressant was involved in each. All of the above have been reconstructed on the basis of shattered memories and multiple tox screens.

[30_Units]

I can't count the times I've blacked out and been close to death.

Blackman can vouch for me taking something like a few hundred mg of phenobarbitol, and a liter of wine over to the vet's place who stole the drugs. I ended up all fucked up constant vomiting, I puked allllll over her porch and it was that disgusting red wine puke. I puked in blackman's car, I puked all over myself.

The real blackman drug me across the yard when we got to my house and I crawled into my car and blacked out on my back. Came to the next morning thankfully and couldn't keep any water down, and I was having to dilute for juvenile probation. I failed for weed. It sucked.

I was like 17, and this pretty much foreshadowed my next few years with any kind of downers. I got really bad for awhile.

[AnitaFix]

few hundred mg of phenobarbitol, and a liter of wine

...oh&

blacked out fucked up constant vomiting puked allllll over disgusting puked all over myself.
juvenile. failed. sucked. 17. really bad. ;a summary :p

interesting how the numbers are nearly tied now @10 pm 25:29 od/no..

barbs are nuts man, i like em but shit..there is a reason they are only used
for specific situations (epilepsy i think, or some other episodes.. or
mayhap for those allergic to benzo).. back in the day barbs where I believe
more common then benzos & predate them (wiki - 1902 in germany whilst
benzo 50's by Roche)

there is a certain glamour to them, hearing all those hollywood stars offing
themselves by mixing barbs & the vino.. maybe i shall order a few (a link to
an online pharmacy in the Phillipines was up in one of the threads..funny-ily
for Valium they req. prescription but this ancient age by far more lethal tranq?
no no no!.. hah

ps. don't test em, the withdrawls are abyssnally hellish filled with
every devilment imaginable & beyondzz (hopefiend will back me on this).
Im talking like a 1-2 week run & ur finished, it makes heroin kick feel like
poolside margaritas & light reading fiesta intermitten with siestas & tab for
hoors & hooch someone else will be paying for

[w1nd0z3]

arent the seizures from barb withdrawal even worse than benzo w/d seziures?

i heard they were like 10x as worse as alcohol withdrawal or benzo withdrawal and to back you up compared to heroin w/d my mate said that heroin w/d is (same words as you? a "walk in the park") compared to barb w/d

[xannyman]

Yeah a few times.....The worst was when I took a SHITLOAD of Methadone, Klonopin, xanax bars, Tar, and weed and my neighbour found me on my couch slumped over onto my coffee table with my face in a bowl of yogurt. I guess she said she was screaming at me and violently shaking me thinking I was dead. Then after shaken me repeatedely with no response she gave me an eppi-pen shot in the thigh, and I awoke and had no idea what the hell was going on and was completely scared out of my mind. Last time that has happened!!!!!!

[30_Units]

Yeah, I've heard pheno is one of the really more unpleasant ones. I'm lucky I didn't just fall asleep and stop breathing. I wanted barbs to be something great, but between pheno and butalbital, which again, wasn't bad, just not great...I'm afraid I missed the ride on barbs...

And having done the benzo wd thing a few times....no thanks. Blrgh

[AnitaFix]

surpsisingly my od's where never connected to "excess" rather
a mid sized dose of my DOC w/o any potentiators - this is what
makes it extra scary ; those nights when I've been guilty of
over-indulging, giving into excess or depravd-decadent-debauch
the gods let me be, so to this day I ponder what it is that led me
oh so near death..1st od was when my 'rents found out ive been
trying to discover the-HERO-INside-of-us-all & thought it was one
ov mine 1stest times using & bad BAD people tie me down & put
the philphy phucking SHHHite into me veins!!

haha like my buddy said of his fhirst heroin exp:

"they shot me up & put on a track my a group called "The Band"
sayin' 'release the band'(simultaneusly que up teh song & taking
off turniquette) - BLACKOUT - I wake up on some couch wearing
a strangers pair of pants & in my pocket is a polaroid of photo of
me at the zoo next to an elephant wearing a bowler hat"

[robothanded]

I'm not sure how strick you guys are on the SWIM thing,so I just did it anyway. I generally don't see the point to it, but..

Yes, and a few other friends all had fentdope batches from Chicago. SWIMS regular guy was out of town, so he gave SWIM his cousins number.SWIM didn't trust the guy from the moment SWIM saw him, just real bad vibes and shady dude. SWIM had gotten my stuff after his friends. SWIM did a bag, SWIMs phone range and it was his buddy telling him not to do the stuff they got from dude because he just got out of the hospital, and just as he said it, it all went fuzzy. SWIMS parents took him to the hospital. Luckily they were around. That batch killed 5, that we know of. Who knows how many others it killed.

Not saying it's related, but this article is the exact time of the incident. and the west side is where SWIM got his dope. and the dude did eventually get arrested. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/45391.php
(http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/45391.php)

[duck]

From the article ^^

More than 100 alleged drug dealers have been arrested over the last two months in an attempt to get the main dealer.None of the arrests helped the investigators get any nearer to their objective. Damn, that's a solid network right there....when shit like that goes down around here people tinkle in their panties and start trying to talk their way out of it.

ducks lesson for the day:

When the shit hits the fan, it's better to have your mouth shut than your mouth open.

[blackman]

very good advice, duck.

[blackman]

Why does this thread keep popping up without new posts?

Does it happen when people vote on the poll?

[Thanat0s]

Why does this thread keep popping up without new posts?

Does it happen when people vote on the poll?
yup

[blackman]

God Dammit! Stop voting on this poll without giving us an OD story!

We wanna here what you have to say! OD stories remind us of what not to do and we could always use more!

Harm reduction is an on-going process.

[SHELLEY]

God Dammit! Stop voting on this poll without giving us an OD story!

We wanna here what you have to say! OD stories remind us of what not to do and we could always use more!

Harm reduction is an on-going process.

um, OD stories may be entertaining
but the only lesson that anyone can learn from ANY od story
is "don't do too much" and "be careful mixing"
every single OD story goes south when person either does too much, or mixes drugs

[Thanat0s]

seen a lot of ODs.
usually tried suboxone to reverse em.
sometimes werx some not.
depends on how much Benzo involved.

almost evry OD was with benzos.

i fell out a few times from just dope. woke up hrs later in a puddle of drool

confused.


shot a few $50 speedballs into my carodid artery.
full grand mal seizure
unconcious.
wake up doing weird stuff
insisting i didnt do my shot.
screaming at people.

i should be braindead.
strokestyle.

dunno.

OD sux.

no fun AND all yer dope is gone when you wake up!

[AnitaFix]

always ALWAYS remember a first time/occasional/non-iv user

when injecting needs to be given the smallest possible threshold
amount. I've had a girl go under from .03 that is 30mg dope ok!!!

Her usual shots where like a .02..this is crazy, most scales have a +/- 10mg
accuracy so..just letting you know this is something IVE SEEN happen to
chippers etc,.

A buddy of mine tried IV fist time (he is a smoker) and we gave him a
quarter of a point 25 mg or so..just because of what we've seen happen..

I don't know the strength of your dope but if you don't have a habit I think starting
with no more then 1/2 a stamp is reasonable. It better to not get high & know
what your dose is going to be in the future than die

I say this because every OD i've seen heard of has occured to on occasional
user w/o a real tolerence for the stuff. getting stung out on it & reaching a point
where you aren't getting high anymore is also no indicator for you to do way more.

I've read the threshold for euphoria is reached before the resp. depressin on.. what I
mean is you get tolerant to the euphoric effects before your body is adjusted to the
respiratory effects; sometimes you will go under before you reach desired psych. state.

[SHELLEY]

OD sux.

no fun AND all yer dope is gone when you wake up!

not if you're by yourself
then it's right where you left it

[Thanat0s]

not if you're by yourself
then it's right where you left it

with me it was all in my shot...

[blackman]

You guys rock.

And shelley, you still rock. (my cock!)

[Thanat0s]

You guys rock.

And shelley, you still rock. (my cock!)

that was all just for you blackman.

you win my vote for fav new member.

yeah?
GTFO!

[blackman]

thanks thant0s. much love.
You checked out the thread I made for ya?

[hero 1]

i wish i dream about bein able to od got the narcan right here just waitin to be put to use
most needle exchanges will give you free narcan and fits if you watch a thirty min vid and contrary to pop belief the narcan will ware off in thirty mins to an hour and the opoies will kick back in so you dont have to and shoudnt use more opoies untll a good six hours after shootin up

[RifRaf]

i wish i dream about bein able to od got the narcan right here just waitin to be put to use


Uhhh...are you saying you "wish" and "dream" about OD'ing so you can use your Narcan?

[Shadowsblaze]

I didn't read this post through I'm gonna read it in reverse, I hadn't OD'd on anything where I thought my life was threatened but one time I was found passed out on the side of the road early morning by para medics. I had a near empty bottle of vodka because a friend and his dog were killed by a speeding car the night before. My blood alcohol was 2.8 and I had been out for 3 hrs.:rolleyes: So I drank too much, sorta OD'd:rolleyes:

[SHELLEY]

And shelley, you still rock. (my cock!)


black man's cock? not my style.... :p

[hero 1]

Uhhh...are you saying you "wish" and "dream" about OD'ing so you can use your Narcan?
id would love to be able to get high enough to od cant get that high i barley nod off of dope ne more and would love to have a few bags of dope that had the potential to make me break my narcan out then i would do just a little less last time i noded off of dope was when that fent was going around three years ago and the most oxys 80mgs you con put in a 100 units of water is 5 if you do 6 that shit will turn solid in the spoon agian

[Thanat0s]

and the most oxys 80mgs you con put in a 100 units of water is 5 if you do 6 that shit will turn solid in the spoon agian


5?!?! in 1cc?
oc80s?

i dont believe that.

[Woody Bear]

the most oxys 80mgs you con put in a 100 units of water is 5 if you do 6 that shit will turn solid in the spoon agian
According to the Material Safety Data Sheet for Oxycodone hydrochloride, it's solubility is 10 g per 100 g water. 1 mL water weighs 1 g, so that's the same as 10 g per 100 mL.
See: http://bulkpharm.mallinckrodt.com/_attachments/msds/OXONE.htm

Now 10 g per 100 mL water is the same as 1 gram in 10 mL or 100 mg in 1 mL.
However, note that the figure is exactly 10 g in 100 mL. In chemistry, solubility data is practically never as smooth as that. The actual figure is going to be more like 9.76 g per 100 mL at 20°C, or 13.34 g per 100 mL at 25°C. I don't know what the real figure is, because I've not read it anywhere, I've only found this rough guideline instead.

They didn't give the range, but because they said 10 g per 100 mL, it's not likely to be very close to 1 g per 100 mL or 20 g per 100 mL. They gave that figure, so that people preparing it, would be able to know how much water it would take to easily dissolve it, and not have problems with it precipitating out of solution.

So I'd guess that 10 g would easily dissolve in 100 mL, and you'd probably be able to dissolve 15 g in 100 mL without to much trouble. But 20 g per 100 mL would be pushing it for production purposes anyway.

Anyways, I'd guess that you could easily fit 1 OC80 in 1 mL, 2 would be pushing it, 3 would be an incomplete extraction, and there would be loads left in the the powder that gets filtered out. And you'd waste loads without doing a second rinse.

What you're seeing with dissolving 6 pills of OC80 in 1 mL, then having it go solid, is a recrystalisation. Sure it will dissolve when hot, but at room temperature, the solution can't hold this much oxycodone, so as it cools and crystalises out, the solution turns from a liquid into a thick gel.

You can't shoot hot solutions without vein damage. If you've experimented and found that 5 pills wouldn't solidify when cooled back to room temperature, then I believe you. However, because the solution is so concentrated, it would absolutely not be possible to dissolve all the oxycodone from 5 pills, without leaving substantial amounts behind on the filter.

Really the optimum pill extraction gets everything soluble in half the volume of your syringe, you then do 2x washes of the filter and spoon with 1/4 the volume of your syringe, and suck them up into the same syringe. This would get practically everything, provided that all the drug was soluble in the water during the first cooking, and it wasn't so concentrated that it crystalised out as it cooled down when you were drawing it through the filter.

[pdxninja]

one time when iwas a youngin i took a shitload of vicodin and it fucked up my breathing and vomited a lot.
i guess that counts as an od.

but with heroin im a pretty strong soldier most of the time
before my iv habit i would plug up to almost a half gram of tar

one night i dont know why i was fucked up already and ended up plugging a gram and a half of dope.
not sure what i was thinking but i blacked out in the middle of sexytime with my lady.

soo embarrased next morning.:confused: