Is smoking morphine ER's possible?

[kyito]

Hello fellow opiophiles, I thought I would run this one by you all and see if you had any opinions or facts on the subject. I have never tried it. I usually snort, parachute, plug the 30 ER's in that order but thought about the possibility of smoking on foil or in a glass pipe for a better 'rush'. Thanks for any input you can give me.

[EleusisII]

Quit this faggotry, and eat them instead. Best B/O...

[kyito]

I know snorting them is not the best ROI but it can't be any worse than eating them. Oral absortion rate is what around 60%? Oh and I did use the search funcion and found nothing on smoking pills....faggotry lol!! Thanks ElusisII for the sound advice..

[Papa Verine]

If I were you, I'd have already smoked one, and my post would've been more of an experience report.

Everything's worth a try once, I say...

EleusisII and I got together once and smoked through all his OxyContin scripts, and then he smoked the pole, so don't listen to him.

Give it a try and let us know how it goes.

[Woody Bear]

If morphine is suitable to smoke really depends on which form it's in. Morphine freebase would be fine to smoke, but because salts have a higher boiling point, the heat needed to vaporise it, is much closer to the temperature at which it breaks down.

Now with other compounds, like meth or even mescaline, the hydrochloride salts can be smoked. And because the HCl group is a lighter molecule than other salts, it takes less heat to vaporise hydrochlorides then other salts. I have never read anything that said that smoking meth or mescaline sulphate would work.

So if your morphine ER tablets contain morphine sulphate, then I would be afraid that the morphine would break down before it got hot enough to vaporise.

[More Feen]

If morphine is suitable to smoke really depends on which form it's in. Morphine freebase would be fine to smoke, but because salts have a higher boiling point, the heat needed to vaporise it, is much closer to the temperature at which it breaks down.

Now with other compounds, like meth or even mescaline, the hydrochloride salts can be smoked. And because the HCl group is a lighter molecule than other salts, it takes less heat to vaporise hydrochlorides then other salts. I have never read anything that said that smoking meth or mescaline sulphate would work.

So if your morphine ER tablets contain morphine sulphate, then I would be afraid that the morphine would break down before it got hot enough to vaporise.

Woody-B beat me to the punch--Bully for you Bear!!

1- Take your pills, crush and dissolve in water. Filter filler.
2- Take solution, pH to 9.1, let sit, Morphine Base will precipitate over a few minutes/hours.
3- Draw off supernatent (non morphine liquid above morphine base).
4- Dry.

Now it should be in a form suitable for SMOKE'N !

Or just eat the fuggers and save 3 hours.

M F

PS- some of the fillers used to prevent injecting such pills might f/u such an extraction process. Not sure, but changing a chemical's composition (Morphine sulfate --> Morphine Base) might be super illegal.

Would you care? I wouldn't.

[Paregoric Kid]

well I think that even acidic forms of morphine vaporize at a low enough temperature. natural opium contains meconic acid and while some of the alkaloids are present as a freebase much of it is present as a meconate acid.
many people assume chemicals must be freebase to be efficiently vaporized but that isn't so with all things, it applies to cocaine because it degrades at a low temperature in HCl form but there are many things that don't need to be converted to freebase to vaporize them.

[EleusisII]

For some reason OP doesn't strike me as a guy who'd go through all that trouble to freebase morphine. Just a hunch.

OP: These guys have a good point, which I forgot about. The morphine you have is morphine sulfate, which will dissolve if exposed to high heat, like from a lighter. So no, it definetly won't work.

The oral B/O of morphine depends on quite a few things: Your liver, your body-chemistry and whether Jesus thinks you're a cool guy. It varies from 20-60 percent.

The rectal B/O is around 30%, as is the nasal one I believe, so in some cases you get more out of them by snorting or plugging. If you're one of the lucky people, whose oral B/O is higher than 30% however, you're wasting your time.

[kyito]

Thanks for your replies. I didn't think it was as simple as crushing and smoking like I've seen/done with oxy, although I felt it was a waste.

P.S. Oh yeah, you know Jesus thinks I'm a cool guy!

[EleusisII]

I didn't think it was as simple as crushing and smoking like I've seen/done with oxy

Next time you're a witness to this senseless waste of pills, we want you to stand up and yell as loud as you can: "WHAT IS THIS FAGGOTRY I SEE?!?" and knock the pills out of their hands.
Failing that, call the police and have your friends arrested for possesion/dealing. The fewer pill-smokers out there pulling this idiocy, the more pills for the rest of us, who know how to properly abuse them ;)

[Paregoric Kid]

oh and it would still be considered just morphine. unlike the unfair sentencing guidelines that discriminate between cocaine HCl and cocaine base no such bias exists with pretty much any other drug, it can come in base or salt form and it is viewed the same, even though potency can vary.

[More Feen]

Good to know Paregoric-K,

I just assumed that changing the salt/base form of a drug was muy bado. But that only pertains to coke.

There's no bias with this law, is there?

Which group characteristically uses cocaine base??

Which group is more prone to using cocaine HCl??

(rhetorical, no need to answer, unless you wanna flame ol' more feen :( )


and nobody wants to do that, do they?

M F

[DCBA]

I've tried smoking MST-30s a few times and felt nothing...
nothing at all.. in fact i believe i wasted what would be good morphine.

[KoDeInaaaae]

wtfux up with people and smokein pharmaceuticals these days its fuckin retarted,Pop em if u want them stronger plug em and u wouldnt be gay if u plugged them unless ur thinkin of a dick when ur doin it.then thats a diff sotry. The only Pharms i smoked was dried liquid morphine my friend sprayed on weed when he took the tubes and sucked out the left overs with a needle and i just tasted flowery qand i got a lil higher but prolly placebo and i smoke fentanyl but thats a diff story lmao....i love fentanyl so damn much

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

Plug them
IM them
Iv them ???

use harm reducation for all the above

smoke cigs or better CIGARS--- MMM A GOOD CIGAR, doesn't get any better
(except in Cuba) :)

[DCBA]

Yeah, plugging (shoving up your ass) is the best option for morphine pills except IV or IM. That is if you dissolve them first, dont just put the pills up your ass... lol ;)

[lotus]

the one and only time i tried smoking a pill was around 12...maybe 13is years ago. i was trying really, REALLY hard to give up the needle, then quit all together.....and trying to find a method that had zero meaning to me.

all i can say, is what a goddamn waste.

[kyito]

I don't do needles. I destroyed all of my veins 15 years ago and for the last year of my heroin addiction I was shooting in some very bad places, like the neck and foot and all kinds of dangerous spots just to try to hit and 9 times out of 10 I missed anyways. I nearly lost my arm due to an abcess. I don't smoke anything but was just curious as I don't have much info about the subject. Thanks for your replies.

[Paregoric Kid]

what about using a vaporizer, that sounds like it would waste less. a nebulizer might be even better.

[30_Units]

wtfux up with people and smokein pharmaceuticals these days its fuckin retarted,Pop em if u want them stronger plug em and u wouldnt be gay if u plugged them unless ur thinkin of a dick when ur doin it.then thats a diff sotry. The only Pharms i smoked was dried liquid morphine my friend sprayed on weed when he took the tubes and sucked out the left overs with a needle and i just tasted flowery qand i got a lil higher but prolly placebo and i smoke fentanyl but thats a diff story lmao....i love fentanyl so damn much


Big-ups on your entire post coming around to being one big contradiction. Seriously.

With the right vaporizer, you could dial in the exact temp of the vape point of the various morphine salts. For those that don't know, all a good vape does is essentially pull hot air past a product....be it green, pod putty, hash, whatever, so yeah, so long as the vape was tuned up correctly, and your opoid's pyrolysis point (I forgot what the real word for what I'm trying to say is here) is higher than the vaporization/boiling point, then it should work.

Should.

But I'm not familiar with the inner workings of a nebulizer-basically like an ultrasonic vaporizer with solubulised drugs for inhalation? I'll go read some.

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

I don't do needles. I destroyed all of my veins 15 years ago and for the last year of my heroin addiction I was shooting in some very bad places, like the neck and foot and all kinds of dangerous spots just to try to hit and 9 times out of 10 I missed anyways. I nearly lost my arm due to an abcess. I don't smoke anything but was just curious as I don't have much info about the subject. Thanks for your replies.

ah GEE may JUST STICK WITH YOUR AVATAR THAN:rolleyes:

THAT IS YOUR THING , CORRECT

with correct proceed morphine IM shots are very safe
use wheelfilter

[KoDeInaaaae]

alright let me change that from pharms to pills....i guess that was one big contadiction now

[30_Units]

nope, one big correction. ;)

[KoDeInaaaae]

Word lol

[kyito]

what about using a vaporizer, that sounds like it would waste less. a nebulizer might be even better.


Very good point. I will definitely do some research. I have never used either a vaporizer or nebulizer but I think it would be freaking awesome to vaporize a big chunk of opium.