OC 60MG

[smitty12s]

Quick ?. I got a oc 60 today and had a hard time getting the red time release off it. I iv'ed it and the water had a redish pink color to it. What sort of damage does the time release cause in the blood stream? Thanks for any info in advance

[the0ne]

Quick ?. I got a oc 60 today and had a hard time getting the red time release off it. I iv'ed it and the water had a redish pink color to it. What sort of damage does the time release cause in the blood stream? Thanks for any info in advance

Please use the search engine, it is your friend. First of all the coating is not the time release mechanism, it is just a coating that I'm sure is just used to differentiate the different doses. What I usually do is get a few fingers wet and rub the pill lightly so that it's just damp. Then I use my fingernails to scrape off the coating. Not sure about the iv part though, don't do it myself.

[RxQueen]

i remember reading another post somewhere (back when this strength first came out) that the red color sometimes gets into the hit.

and as theOne already stated, the coating IS NOT the time release mechanism! this is the oldest myth out there about OC's! the time release is in the matrix of the pill itself. the coating is just a way to easily differentiate the dosage.

[oxy-gen]

Hello,I believe the time release is on the exterior of the tablet. I speculate this because I have actually seen it after well, you know it, taking a dump. I was like, WTF is that and realised that after reading from other posters somewhere on the net , that, that is the case. The tablet is designed so that the medication is extracted from the tablet when injested in essence you could crap out the entire pill time release mechanism,(medication extracted). Well it happened to me and I read it elsewhere, and I take my medication by mouth.

I'm quite sure some others with more experience will chime in soon, and my apologies for being so descriptive.

[mac]

No, the time release, as previously stated, is in the matrix of the pill. Color is just to differentiate the dosages. Common misconception.

smitty: Just follow the0ne's advice. Dampen the pill and scrape the coating off with your fingernails. Don't suck it off in your mouth as this is will put unnecessary bacteria into the solution.

[RxQueen]

it's true that the "ghost pill" can be shat out after digestion. it's just the remnants of what's left after the active ingredient is extracted by your digestive tract. the colored coating can sometimes (often) remain intact with the "ghost pill," but rest assured... that coating is NOT the time release mechanism! read all the threads on shooting OC's... the matrix that gels up (in some brands), or becomes waxy is throughout the entire pill, and that is what releases the oxycodone over time.

[smitty12s]

thanks for everyones info. I learned something new today!

[Citrus]

I still can't believe even after so many people said and explained how much bullshit that is(the coating being the time release) People still believe it, and try to back up their theory on why they think they're right; lol.

What I thought was weird, is that the OP said the shot was tinted red. I only find this strange because Ive gotten the blue/green wax from 80mg's into my shots, and theres NO color that leaks into the water. The only pill I've ever found that changes the color of the water, is the Oxy IR 30mgs, which ends up looking like Kool-Aid in the rig. Some brands of the Oxy IR 30's come out more blue than others.

Can anyone further speculate on this?

[China white]

Hello,I believe the time release is on the exterior of the tablet. I speculate this because I have actually seen it after well, you know it, taking a dump. I was like, WTF is that and realised that after reading from other posters somewhere on the net , that, that is the case. The tablet is designed so that the medication is extracted from the tablet when injested in essence you could crap out the entire pill time release mechanism,(medication extracted). Well it happened to me and I read it elsewhere, and I take my medication by mouth.

I'm quite sure some others with more experience will chime in soon, and my apologies for being so descriptive.


Im pretty sure its within the pill itself


I still can't believe even after so many people said and explained how much bullshit that is(the coating being the time release) People still believe it, and try to back up their theory on why they think they're right; lol.


What I thought was weird, is that the OP said the shot was tinted red. I only find this strange because Ive gotten the blue/green wax from 80mg's into my shots, and theres NO color that leaks into the water. The only pill I've ever found that changes the color of the water, is the Oxy IR 30mgs, which ends up looking like Kool-Aid in the rig. Some brands of the Oxy IR 30's come out more blue than others.

Can anyone further speculate on this?



Thats the same experience I've had as well although If I remember correctly I had the same thing happen to me with the roxi 15's

[upstate_007]

Can anyone further speculate on this?


Probably just has something to do with the type of red dye used for the coating.

Red is a very hard color to replicate with dyes, paint, etc. Ask anyone who has painted a wall or some part of their house red. It's a pain in the ass.

The dye used for the blue or green ones is probably not as water soluble as the red is.

[blues]

Can anyone further speculate on this?

the dye is in the "powder" itself with the ir;s, oppsed to the coating with the er's. ever sniff one and have blue boggers:D?

that sounds stupid when i reread it, but im sure someone will get what im saying

[Tainted]

No, the time release, as previously stated, is in the matrix of the pill. Color is just to differentiate the dosages. Common misconception.

smitty: Just follow the0ne's advice. Dampen the pill and scrape the coating off with your fingernails. Don't suck it off in your mouth as this is will put unnecessary bacteria into the solution.

The color I'm sure is to differentiate pills, but I don't think that's the only purpose for that wax coating. My understanding has always been it's to prevent deterioration of the chemical compound from humidity and the elements. Look at Roxys and the other instant release oxy's, they are color coded, but they don't have that wax layer on the outside.

[euphoricontin17]

Funny, with all the responses, no one actually answered dude's question about wheather the dye causes damage or not...

The reason the red dye is so hard to get off compared to the blue/green 80's, 40's, 20,s etc. ( had not had the 15's or 30's yet so idk about them) is because like someone said, the red dye is hard to make and is made differently from the other colors, part of the process tints the actual pill and it's very hard to get the entire red coating off completely.

No worries man, I shoot OC 60's nearly everyday and they are all colored red. Havn't had a problem yet. Think, with all the shit people put in their veins with dope, especially tar, a little dye won't kill you.

[Flowergirl]

To paint a wall red, first use a battleship grey undercoat or primer. Works like a million bucks. One coat of primer, 2 coats of red, and perfection.

That's my (non)helpful input to this post. :)

[Woody Bear]

I've not used oxycodone tablets, but to get the coating off morphine tablets, I wet a kitchen roll, then rub the tablet between the damp paper.

I've heard too many horror stories about dropping pills down the sink when removing the coating. So I wet the kitchen roll over the sink, then bring the paper over to the kitchen counter where I'm preparing the pill.

It's more hygenic to try to remove the pill coating with kitchen roll, rather then fingers. And if the coating was really stuck on, and the damp paper wasn't enough, then I'd use a knife rather then fingernails, but I've not had that problem.

[NY Hippie]

The time release matrix has the contents of the pill bound so strongly that you can actually just rinse the coating off with cold running water without losing any of the drug (at least I know this is true with name-brand OxyContin), just make sure to plug the drain first, haha. Or, you can wipe it off with an alcohol pad, and still, nthing of the pill other then the coating will dissolve. Both of these methods are very effective at entirely removing the coating, as other methods (such as dampening it and then scraping it off with your fingernail) can both leave bacteria, and leave a tiny amount of coating on the pill. Obviously that tiny little bit of coating isn't going to kill you, but the less of that stuff in your veins the better.

[OpiumKing]

Same thing happens to me when I snort those. Even after getting most of the coating off and grinding it up with the hose clamp, I still get these pretty little pink lines haha.
O.K.

[AGV10]

.... and to reinforce what others have said: the coating is not related to the time release - old old myth.

If you are shitting coated MR Oxy tab's on an ongoing basis, you need to see your doc pronto pronto - as there is either something wrong with the tab's, or your digestive tract ain't producing any acids, as the coating requires primarily acids to break down, versus the time release/analgesic part of the tab i.e. below the red coating - this main/active part of the tab is NOT acid dependent but relies primarily on digestive tract enzymes to break down.

It serves as a protective and identification coating - nothing less, nothing more.

[mtren]

i dont like the 60s as much as the 80s or even the 40s or 30s if i have like 2 of them u know because the 60s have that different coating you cant just scrape them off with your fingernail you have to like wet a paper towel and rub the pill on it.. well thats the easiest way i found to do it because its like the red is painted on it not a coating like the greens or yellows are

[duck]

i dont like the 60s as much as the 80s or even the 40s or 30s if i have like 2 of them u know because the 60s have that different coating you cant just scrape them off with your fingernail you have to like wet a paper towel and rub the pill on it.. well thats the easiest way i found to do it because its like the red is painted on it not a coating like the greens or yellows are

boo fucking hoo :rolleyes:

[Icecool988]

i never got the hole hose clamp thing. can someone link a pick of how or whats going on. I usually just put pill on flat surface, put a bill over it, roll a bic lighter across it 3-4 times which makes it dust, line it up with a card, and good to go.

i would think something would get stuck in the clamp, and ive even heard of people using some kind of a grater? wtf wouldnt you lose 15ish percent of the pill in the grater (5% in the clamp maybe?) I prob lose 1-2% on the bill/card/

[Papa Verine]

i never got the hole hose clamp thing. can someone link a pick of how or whats going on. I usually just put pill on flat surface, put a bill over it, roll a bic lighter across it 3-4 times which makes it dust, line it up with a card, and good to go.

i would think something would get stuck in the clamp, and ive even heard of people using some kind of a grater? wtf wouldnt you lose 15ish percent of the pill in the grater (5% in the clamp maybe?) I prob lose 1-2% on the bill/card/

I'm with you on this one man. I've always used a Bic lighter to crush up pills and I've never had a problem with it.

I've never removed the coating from OxyContins either. If I was snorting them I'd just snort that shit right up with the powder. Shooting them, it always got filtered out with the undissolvables.

[duck]

Take a hose clamp like this from your local hardware store (LOCAL, not home depot! support small business, especially small hardware stores, they're being swallowed up):

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DSSXtgE5CF4/SrQ6rt4YvVI/AAAAAAAAIIs/TDS4Qg05-Qc/s320/hose+clamp.jpg

Unscrew the screw part and discard it, then you will have a band instead of of a loop. You just take the coating of your OC and slide it back and forth over the slots in the clamp, just as you grate cheese.

[duck]

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I've never removed the coating from OxyContins either. If I was snorting them I'd just snort that shit right up with the powder. Shooting them, it always got filtered out with the undissolvables.

No way!! that's crazy....what's the point in snorting that waxy shit?!?! Seriously, the coating comes off SO easy, it's not good to be putting that much wax in your nose bro!

[Papa Verine]

No way!! that's crazy....what's the point in snorting that waxy shit?!?! Seriously, the coating comes off SO easy, it's not good to be putting that much wax in your nose bro!

Hey duck, in my defense, I've never been a regular OC user. I scored a few here and there before I knew any of this stuff.

Since becoming a member of this site, the few times I've gotten them I've crushed them up and taken them orally.

[Underdose]

I just suck the coating off the 60's, usually I'm crushing it to eat or snort once in a while. wipe it off with a paper towel and we're in business.

[Spikey]

I just use a pill crusher, you can buy at any drug store. Works great, no mess, no waste.:)

[hansardo]

In my experience that red coating on the OC60s is just damn hard to get rid of. Way harder than any of the other OCs. For some reason it just does not go away like the others do... I doubt it would do any more damage than anything else in the pill when you IV it though. Just speculation...

[sixflat1]

I'm with you on this one man. I've always used a Bic lighter to crush up pills and I've never had a problem with it.

I've never removed the coating from OxyContins either. If I was snorting them I'd just snort that shit right up with the powder. Shooting them, it always got filtered out with the undissolvables.



I don't understand..... Really? am i missing the sarcasm? I see/read your posts all the time and would have never thought that you ,or anyone for that matter, would actually snort the coating.. Come on your pulling our leg.