Prince of Pot

[DreamCatcher]

And gooood morning to everyone! At least for me it's morning and it's quite good so you'll just have to go along with it. :p Now to my question: This one is for all those from the USA. Has anyone heard of Marc Emery? I've been meaning to ask this question for ages, but I just recently got registred, and the thread by the name SEEDS has reminded me about my question. He is a Canadian from the same city as me. He is often reffered to as The Prince Of Pot. :) Quite a popular figure on this side of the border. He's the head of Britissh Colombia Marijuana party. Has a store and a magazine (dedicated to the cannabis culture of course) And has been selling seeds for quite some time. The reason I'm asking is because he got arrested on the request from United States DEA for seeling seeds across the border. And our Canadian forces arrested him which is a shame :mad: Now he is in jail waiting to be deported to USA where he's supposed to serve his sentence. There's alot of protests going on every day as to try to stop them from deporting them. And I've heard that in US people are protesting too, cuz they're pissed off cuz it was DEA's fault that he got arrested. So i was always curious if there's anyone on the site who knows about him and maybe even supports him?

[oxy-gen]

I always thought that the possession of Cannabis seeds was illegal, therefor the buying/selling of them would be too, right? Now Hemp seeds may be different. Just a thought, not an answer.

[DreamCatcher]

I'm a noob in that area, as i don't even smoke weed. So you could be right, but whatever he was doing was legal here and illegal in states thats all i know.

[blackman]

sorry man. I consider myself a weed connoisseur and have never heard of him. then again, I purposely try and stay away from politics. I have enough assholes in my life.

[Dan K]

I know him personally and think he's an asshole that never shuts up. Draconian laws aside, his mouth got him put in jail. Same with eddy lepp... if he stuck to 1000 plants and had scripts and didnt plant next to the highway in the face of the cops he wouldnt be in jail either. Bean dealers are scum.

[DreamCatcher]

I know him personally and think he's an asshole that never shuts up. Draconian laws aside, his mouth got him put in jail. Same with eddy lepp... if he stuck to 1000 plants and had scripts and didnt plant next to the highway in the face of the cops he wouldnt be in jail either. Bean dealers are scum.


LoL Don't know him personally...

[Dan K]

Keep an eye on Marco Renda. He used to go so far as to even edit marcs name from his site. now, after all this legal BS, he's playing the great martyr.

BOG went into hiding, Rez has claimed to of 'changed his ways', Gypsy will always be Gypsy, and most companies will not send to the US anymore. Hell, even DJ short has quit the game, and Vic High aka HYB is still eating crow since his days of peddeling the exe. When RC and heavens stairway went down w OG, it was the begining of the end for the bean pushers.

W the laws in Cali and CO as they are, and more states going medi... instate shipment of clones is going to be the new wave......

Srry, I can't support Marc.... he caused more trouble than he did help.

[China white]

I know him personally and think he's an asshole that never shuts up. Draconian laws aside, his mouth got him put in jail. Same with eddy lepp... if he stuck to 1000 plants and had scripts and didnt plant next to the highway in the face of the cops he wouldnt be in jail either. Bean dealers are scum.


Id have to agree with you 100 percent. I dont know him personally but he really rubs me the wrong way even from the tv screen. I don't like how he's adopted the name "prince" whether he came up with it or not. It seems like he's on some high horse. In the doc he has these noob's at his place in Vancouver all rready to suck his dick on command, it seems he keeps a steady supply of these types around for whatever reason. I think he could go about what he's doing in a different way. Then again I can't judge somebody who's shoes Im not in. But there is one thing I know for sure and that is 9 times out of ten your mouth will only have a negative effect on things. ESPECIALLY with United States government.

[nick]

I know him personally and think he's an asshole that never shuts up. Draconian laws aside, his mouth got him put in jail. Same with eddy lepp... if he stuck to 1000 plants and had scripts and didnt plant next to the highway in the face of the cops he wouldnt be in jail either. Bean dealers are scum.

Yeah,Emery's a total sleazeball.

[Woody Bear]

The Pope of Pot, that's the term for how important he views himself to the cannabis movement.

In some way's his campaigning has been good, but he's a self-serving narcissistic asshole, and I've heard just as much horror stories of whats he's done and said. I find it hard to belief that people like these actually help the movement at all on the balance of things.

[sweetpoppygrrl]

i dunno---shitbag or no, at least he's walkin' his talk---

there's gonna be vapid sycophants in any movement, but i'll give him props for standing up and thumbin' his nose at the us and it's dea henchmen...

[nick]

i dunno---shitbag or no, at least he's walkin' his talk---

there's gonna be vapid sycophants in any movement, but i'll give him props for standing up and thumbin' his nose at the us and it's dea henchmen...

Crap,he's not some kinda activist.He's a straight businessman.He saw an opportunity and moved right on in.It could have been second hand cars or nuclear war heads for all the difference in made to Emery.

As I say,the guy's a sleazeball.

[Indy]

It's fucked up but IIRC technically citizens of the US and most Western nations are actually subject to their home country's laws worldwide. Obviously they can get away with it because most countries won't arrest them for something that isn't illegal in that country, but in this case the DEA has been bullying Mexico and Canada for years.

[nodrover]

I have seen a video or two about him somewhere on the internet....I didn't know (and it didn't seem like ) he was a shady kind of character. IDK........isn't he just an outspoken medical marijuana advocate?:confused-

[DreamCatcher]

, but in this case the DEA has been bullying Mexico and Canada for years.


That's what pisses me off the most about this, not even the fact that US is bullying Canada into shit like that (I guess when you're big, you want things seen your way) But the fact that Canadian goverment eats it up and they will do whatever they're told as long as they can stay "on good terms" with States....BS like that just makes me angry.

Funny stuff, i started this thread to see if there's anyone who supports Marc and found out that he apperently isn't as great as he seems. I can't go against oppinions of so many people ( you people :p) as i guess there are facts behind your opinions...I'm obviously not about to start hating the guy as personaly he's never done anything bad to me, but I guess I'll look into his personality more from now on. Thanx for updating me hehe:)

[Larry]

Id have to agree with you 100 percent. I dont know him personally but he really rubs me the wrong way even from the tv screen. I don't like how he's adopted the name "prince" whether he came up with it or not. It seems like he's on some high horse. In the doc he has these noob's at his place in Vancouver all rready to suck his dick on command, it seems he keeps a steady supply of these types around for whatever reason. I think he could go about what he's doing in a different way. Then again I can't judge somebody who's shoes Im not in. But there is one thing I know for sure and that is 9 times out of ten your mouth will only have a negative effect on things. ESPECIALLY with United States government.

Sounds like he has those noobs around to inflate his ego, Guy sounds like a complete asshole. If he was smart he would keep his mouth shut but his problem is he cant and thats what will bring him down. When your behind the scenes and out of the spotlight is when you have the most power.

[Citrus]

Marc Emery is a top of the line douche bag. He ripped off thousands of US customers, and its all blatant and out in the open, it happened back around 2001-2003. Look it up, he got lots of US citizens for their money, and was supposed to send them seeds, and did nothing but receive a shit load of money and not return with the product(seeds)


...Yeah, what an activist. :rolleyes:

[Paregoric Kid]

I don't really know anything of Marc's business practices. if he ripped people off that is not cool but that could be orders that were placed after he got into legal trouble or orders that got discovered going through customs. they may have also frozen his bank accounts which would prevent him from refunding their money that was transferred into his account. I have been following his legal problems for a while though. even if he was a bad businessman it is still bullshit that Canada is allowing him to be extradited to the US to be charged for something that isn't even a serious crime in Canada. hell I'm surprised they caught him, unless the packaging was bizarre or obvious how would the average customs employee know the difference between sterilized hemp seed which is totally legal and viable medical/recreational cannabis seeds, there is no visible difference. it is a real shame for the US and Canada. I remember the first time I went to Canada they kicked me and my friends out and while they were searching my friends car at the customs office one of the border agents said something about finding suspected marijuana seeds, fortunately it either wasn't one or the law is the same for border crossers as it is in the rest of Canada, which I believe is that possession of seeds is not a criminal offense. plus they would have had to try and germinate it to prove it wasn't hemp seed and even then if it didn't sprout they might not find out. it is bullshit that a plant that is so NON-toxic and helpful is being treated as deadly as hemlock and as a highly dangerous "addictive" substance with no medical use. fortunately the citizens are not as stupid as the government, most people can see that the anti-pot disinformation is lies because either they've tried it themselves or personally know others who have used or still do use cannabis. some day people might wake up and say enough is enough and finally put an end to this insanity. he may be guilty of breaking a law, but that law is wrong, unjust and has turned a harmless medicinal plant into a demonized "substance" and a businessman/entrepreneur into a criminal and it needs to stop.

[Citrus]

Use paragraphs, they are your friend. And there is no excuse for the things he did. Go look it up. He stole from Americans and only americans, because of the un-lax laws, he just didn't send them, and there was no love letters sent to the citizens that placed the orders.`

[DreamCatcher]

I don't really know anything of Marc's business practices. if he ripped people off that is not cool but that could be orders that were placed after he got into legal trouble or orders that got discovered going through customs. they may have also frozen his bank accounts which would prevent him from refunding their money that was transferred into his account. I have been following his legal problems for a while though. even if he was a bad businessman it is still bullshit that Canada is allowing him to be extradited to the US to be charged for something that isn't even a serious crime in Canada. hell I'm surprised they caught him, unless the packaging was bizarre or obvious how would the average customs employee know the difference between sterilized hemp seed which is totally legal and viable medical/recreational cannabis seeds, there is no visible difference. it is a real shame for the US and Canada. I remember the first time I went to Canada they kicked me and my friends out and while they were searching my friends car at the customs office one of the border agents said something about finding suspected marijuana seeds, fortunately it either wasn't one or the law is the same for border crossers as it is in the rest of Canada, which I believe is that possession of seeds is not a criminal offense. plus they would have had to try and germinate it to prove it wasn't hemp seed and even then if it didn't sprout they might not find out. it is bullshit that a plant that is so NON-toxic and helpful is being treated as deadly as hemlock and as a highly dangerous "addictive" substance with no medical use. fortunately the citizens are not as stupid as the government, most people can see that the anti-pot disinformation is lies because either they've tried it themselves or personally know others who have used or still do use cannabis. some day people might wake up and say enough is enough and finally put an end to this insanity. he may be guilty of breaking a law, but that law is wrong, unjust and has turned a harmless medicinal plant into a demonized "substance" and a businessman/entrepreneur into a criminal and it needs to stop.


Yeah, that's the main thing, that pisses me off too: the way they're allowing him to be extradited! Doesn't matter if the guy's an asshole or not, it's stupid either way! And i don't know about people he cheated, but i do know that after all there were alot of ppl in states that protested against his arrest so there must've been alot of satisfied people too.

[dharma bum]

We have the Dean of Green right here amongst us somewhere. Sure, the title 'dean' not as impressive but give him time.

[Paregoric Kid]

I wasn't excusing what you say he did, just saying that its still bullshit what the US is trying to do. now in a perfect world he would be getting extradited for ripping people off lol but obviously some of his seeds got through otherwise he wouldn't have gotten busted.

[dharma bum]

Here is what the U.S. is charging Emery with (from wiki) "'Conspiracy to Distribute Marijuana", "Conspiracy to Distribute Marijuana Seeds" and "Conspiracy to Engage in Money Laundering".

Here is what the Canadian police have done::::"Canadian police have not laid charges."[ (http://forum.opiophile.org/#cite_note-15)

[DreamCatcher]

Here is what the U.S. is charging Emery with (from wiki) "'Conspiracy to Distribute Marijuana", "Conspiracy to Distribute Marijuana Seeds" and "Conspiracy to Engage in Money Laundering".

Here is what the Canadian police have done::::"Canadian police have not laid charges."[ (http://forum.opiophile.org/#cite_note-15)

They arrested him though

[Bud]

Marc Emery is from Vancouver as well as myself, I support him 100%, he is getting charged with selling seeds to DEA agents in the US through his seed shop originating in Vancouver I believe.

[tokabol23]

Marc Emery IS the prince of pot. He operated legally under Canadas laws and even went to the extent of sending seed brochures and letters to members of parliament explaining his business practices in depth. He donated money to the Canadian government and he is the leader of a political party. Canadian officals arrested him under pressure from the states because the conservative leader in power fucked up our extradition laws. I personally think its a huge deal and I have sent letters out (which will probably do jack shit, but it makes me feel better :D) to some importantish people. Im not usually the political type but this stuff is pretty fucked up. In Cali, theres a town that openly grows and sells marijuana product, but some dude who owns a legit enterprise gets booked, not for shady practices, but for selling a bloody seed. I dunno i think its pretty disgusting.

[Dhedmo]

Here is what the U.S. is charging Emery with (from wiki) "'Conspiracy to Distribute Marijuana", "Conspiracy to Distribute Marijuana Seeds" and "Conspiracy to Engage in Money Laundering".

Here is what the Canadian police have done::::"Canadian police have not laid charges."[ (http://forum.opiophile.org/#cite_note-15)

You sent me to wiki and I thought he was familiar...the City Lights Comics dude. He had a comic book store in the 70s, when there weren't many. I remember his ads (and I believe he went to a few cons in Chicago way back).

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